I got the idea of this topic when I was answering a post, I have several relitives that have been healed by Gods power. I would love to hear your stories. My uncle who was not religious at the time was diagnosed with a inoperable brain tumor. That very evening he went to church where they had a massive prayer service for him, The next week he told the doctor he wanted another ct scan because he knew it wes gone and wanted to prove it, The doctor agreed but told him there was no way it would be gone. He was so shocked the doctor had another test done to prove that the tumor was indeed gone. The doctor was so shocked he had never seen such a thing. Now as I said in my other post I think my uncles will power and positivity had a great role in his recovery also. So I would love to hear about how Gods power has influenced your life or a friends or family. Always a pleasure hearing from you all. Happy Holidays to all. This is the perfect time to hear about the miricles God preforms,, Christmas.

Many, many times...

Keep the faith, the war is won, wait it out and paradise awaits. All knees shall bow, everything will be revealed soon.

While god seems to have interfaced with my life on a number of occasions, the only specific instance of his healing power was quite recent.

I had badly torn a ligament in my shoulder, and every time I moved it injudiciously, I experienced agonizing pain. This time I had tried to move some groceries on a checkout in our local shop and the pain brought red and black flashes along with it. I was writhing around. trying not to scream. when a bloke in front of me at the checkout turned round.

He (without addressing me at all,) put his palm lightly on my shoulder and began to speak. It was apparently a prayer. Some of the words I heard were, "In jesus name take a way the pain" and, "In jesus name heal this person." He was also speaking other words in a language I did not recognise.

At first immobilised in shock, I was just about to back politely away when an incredible thing happened. A strong heat, like that of a heat lamp, emanated from his palm and entered my shoulder. Immediately, most of the pain was removed, and even more suprisingly, I regained most of the mobility that had been lost in that shoulder.

He finished and walked out. I was left trying to pay for my goods and never caught up with him. I did hear later that he has a reputation as a healer, and works with the local footy club. Most of the residual pain, and immobility, eventually returned over a few hours period, but I was just happy to have been freed from a considerable period of excruciating pain. There was also some permanent improvement in both mobility and pain relief, which my physio commentred on at my next visit.

I was told that reiki gives a similar relief, but last week, when I visited a reiki practitioner and teacher, and he demonstrated the technique with some variations, the heat he engendered in my shoulder was not one tenth of that which the "faith healer" created, and there was none of the noticeable improvement. (this may be an unfair comparison as I was not in severe pain on this occasion)

I have recounted this event a couple of times, but it seemed interesting and relevant enough to repeat on this thread.

I go to a Native American medicine wheel every month. The second time I was there we had a healing ritual a group was laying hands on me. The leader came by and blew tobacco smoke on my neck from the sacred pipe and it was like he blew the pain the pain in my neck away. I enjoy my healing group and I feel better afterwords. I have felt the heat you talk about, Walker, and given that heat as well. Everyone has the ability to heal, some have more talent than others.

I'd like to see medical proof to back it all up.

me.......developed a lung infection...both lungs collapsed...blood pressure soared to 300 / 210....died. was close to hospital and put on vent to breathe but the docs told my family i was not going to recover, not likely to live through the night...my wife did not like that and started a prayer vigil with some others we knew...i made it through the night, then the docs said i would not make it throught the day...well, then they said they did not know how i was holding on that i should be dead...my wife kept her vigil...a week later i woke up, much to the surprise of my docs...they did a bunch of test that day and determined i was still dumb as a brick but nothing else was damaged from lack of air...i went home that afternoon...that really blew their mind but i know how i was able to do that...there is much more to this story but i don't have the time to tell it today....have to do Christmas stuff...

randomhit10

me - basilar artery fusiform aneurysm 1x10 cm. could not be removed . one doc decides to shut off right veterbral - then left. stroke. didn't die as most thought I would.

didn't pray.



christians define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

ps - I can back it up.


Click to view attachment

don't know about others but too many other things happened to me for me to chalk up to mere chance...i believe God had a hand in my healing, no other way it could have been...

randomhit10

belief is not proof or fact. it just could have easily been luck , your own mind and strength.

I agree. I shouldn't be alive, that's for sure. I didn't pray. I thought I had a gauardian angel at times bu t I believe it was a residue of belief & a coping mechanism.

Funny that people that have no religious faith or are non-christian all have the same stories to tell, hmmm ?

And how come don't any of you present any evidence of brain tumors that disappeared & such, doctor's records etc ?

I do believe that God heals , if it's in your path that was laid out to be. if it is in 'the plan'. Most don't get healed and are far more faithful and good so to speak. God has a plan and sticks to it. all happen for a reason - all of it good , evil and neutral.

so while prayer and meditation is good , I don't believe in 'miricles' as most have come to see them. now if suddenly everyone with cancer woke up tomorrow and found it gone ? that would be a miricle.

suddenly there is no more starvation ? a miricle.

I don't know if god exists or not but if he does, I imagine this is how it works and if there is a plan.

I definitely believe in the healing powers of the mind.

Immune response & the brain are closely linked.

But many christians (not all) seem to think they are a favored people in the eyes of god.

First of all God doesn;t just heal his followers he has the power to heal everyone and who knows somone could have prayed for you to get better and you didn't even know then God healed you. Dont underestimate Gods Power, I well my uncle has definite proof of Gods power. If I thought for one minuite that it would change anyones mind here about Gods awesome power I would post it in a second as my uncle is known to his power he would post it himself. But I know that you ( not just you mlor) would just find another excuse Not to believe in whats right in front of you. No offense Meant here , I just don't think a piece of paper is going to change your mind about this I think you know in your hearts the truth and glory of God and I pray you will listen to it, lways a pleasure.

I am christiain and I don't for one single minuite think that I am favored by God . We are all favorites in Gods eyes not just me or anyone else ALL of us. God does have a plan for us all and While I can't tell you what that plan is I think we have use of our own mind. If I get sick I pray I get better HE heals me, was that in his plan or did I get healed because I prayed? Always a pleasure.

Mr Walker I am so glad you told your story here I enjoy hearing about the power God has in our lives God bless ou and Ill be praying for you.

Yes I agree our minds can do wonders for us But Gods power is much stronger and theres no denying his ppower once he has touched you, always a pleasure. I am glad you are better Randomhit.

Darkwind I think its awesome that you have had a loss of your pain if only for awhile it is a great relief, I continue to pray for you and Know MY thoughts are with you, Always a pleasure.

Then if God has the power to cure everyone then why don't he cure my friend Bess? She goes to church every Sunday. I think she would go to church more but she can't walk, can't see, and has trouble talking. I understand her because I try to go see her at the nursing home every week. She is only 58. Why did you Uncle get healing and not Bess?

I knew a man, who was a very committed Christian. He died a horrible, agonizing and painful death as the consequence of a brain tumor. His wife and children and thousands of people throughout the state of Florida and the USA prayed daily for this man for years...fasted...wept. No answer from God...unless you count the thoroughly bull answer of "yes-no-not now" that is the excuse of evangelicals who feel as if they must defend their idiotic faith in a God who so blatantly breaks his promises. A seemingly answered prayer can be an accident of chance; an unanswered prayer by a god who promises to answer all prayers in his name is the only proof needed that there is most likely no god there.

Good, faithful, diligent, loving, compassionate, biblically literate, tithing, moral, prayerful, Republican...and most of all, they have accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. They pray, they weep, they join with others...NOTHING.

NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING.

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/...-of-denial.html


For my grandmother it was the same.

Or it could be God healed you, Gods plan was for you to continue to live and maybe tell the world about it? Could be we don't know his plans he has for us, Always a pleasure.

Sandee this video is for you......Baby got Book ! , enjoy


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q3p1X4njJcQ&...by%20got%20book

I can't answer that I asked the same thing when my mom died Why did he not heal her and heal so many others? 3 months before my mom passsed away she was in a coma and I praayed and prayed for her to come home , the docs wanted to take her off the vent and I refused refused I knew God would send her home and he did I had more time with her because he sent her home to me. She passed away later, so do I get angry that he took her from me or do I thank him for giving me that extra time, I thank him because every single minuite I had with her was precious. I am so sorry to hear about your friend, Gods plans are not for us to understand, I know thats not an answer you just have faith and he will show us someday. Always a pleasure.

I am laughing so hard I cant even type, You are so cute mlor, I am going to take this as a HUGE compliment!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you thats relly cute made my year, Always a pleasure MLOR.

I will ask you to prove you claims cause I don't buy your story...

They have done a study on the power of prayer and have proven that mere words alone aren't enough to heal the sick.

If what you say works it would work for everyone and not just a select few.

As I said Before no amount of proof I show you would change your mind, lets say I am puting proof right in front of you right now , Is that going to change your mind No it won't. I will tell you why , You would find another reason to deny God and his awesome power. I do not mean any offence, But it is faith, faith is all around you , You live on faith. Faith that you will be here tomarroww that the world will be here tomarrow, You don't know those things for absolue certain yet you live your life regaurdless. God has a plan for us all, we may not understand his reasons but he knows and thats all that matters to me. And YES PRAYER HAS BEEN PROVEN MANY TIMES TO HAVE HEALED. I have seen several studies on it, I am one of Gods children just as you are. I choose to honor him, That is my choice just as its your choice not to. I don't pretend to know everything about God, But when I stand in front of him on judgement day I feel like I have done things the way he would want, I pray I do his will the right way and if I make a mistake I know he will forgive me when I ask. Faith is very strong and God provides us with so much everyday , don't look at what he hasn't done for you , be thankful for what he has done, Always a pleasure.

and I 'pray' you find the truth. your giving an opinion , not fact. feelings are not fact.



you haven't shown any proof.

Maybe she doesn't deserve to be healed.


Just because a person goes to church, does not make them a good and noble person. And likewise just because a person doesn't ever go to church does not mean that they are an evil and worthless person.

When I moved to the town that I spent the last half of school in, I went to a church every day learning more and more about god from a pastor who was fun, kind, and always talked about god. This same pastor was 'run out' of my town because he was caught cheating on his wife, not once, but a few times, with a handful of different women from the town. He shut me away from Christianity for a very long time.

But the truth is that there is a higher power who does heal. Who 'can' heal any wound, any sickness. Just because he can, does NOT mean that he will. Darkwind, you say you understand Bess because you see her every week. Has she told you anything of what she's done in the past? Odds are she won't tell you about all the bad things she's done. The average person is afraid to admit their wrong-doings. Let alone to a stranger. So maybe she deserves to be where she's at.



As for this guy, if he was a very committed Christian, I would say that god gave him a final test with the tumor. And when he passed the test, God took him to his kingdom. Which to me is the greatest thing God could do for me. No, I'm no emo kid who wants to commit suicide. I just don't fear death. I'm going to a better, happier place. Why should I be scared?

Those who were healed of major illness, I believe have something left to do on this world. I think that everyone has a job they must fullfill before they get to pass on to the next life. If the sickness would have hindered them from getting the job done, then I think God took it from them. Just so they can finish their duty.


Just my 2 cents on things.
-C

See Sandee, this is the kind of answer that takes away the credibility in god for some of us. No offense, I know that isn't what you were trying to do, and I am glad for yo uthat you have such a strong faith. There are times where I wish I could erase my doubts and believe like you do.

But some of us feel like when something good happens, Christians say "See?? That was God, He did it, isn't he great?" But then when bad stuff happens, the only answer they can provide is one similar to yours. "Well God works in mysterious ways. We aren't meant to understand his plan, but this is part of it." It seems like a weak attempt to explain away the evidence that either there is no God or plan, or that if there is, he is indifferent.

Post hoc fallacy

"Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one."

All the bad things she's done, huh ?

Now explain what some babies did wrong in their life to get tortured and raped. Explain how the evil deeds we don't know about ? got Jews into the holocaust so they could meet their maker sooner.




VERY lame excuses, cruel, presumptuous, illogical & arrogant comes to mind..............if I were I Christian I'd pray for you

Cruel is simply a matter of perception. As I said, I would love to die and go on to heaven, to a greater place. So as I see it there was no cruelty in my previous statement.

As for presumptuous, I'd say that presuming that there is no God/creator at all would be far more presumptuous than thinking that he has an intricate plan for us.

*Sigh* And as for arrogant...you should really know the definition of words before you use them... because I didn't say anything even slightly 'arrogant'.



Yes, people do bad things. Some deserve the results, some don't. The bible talks of a man who was given problem after problem after problem just to see if he would forsake god. By god himself no less. Life is a test. Everything that life hands to you is a test. What you do with it simply determines what will happen when your day comes. If someone wrongs you in some way, the bible says you should forgive. Whether you do or you don't is up to you. But your choice will determine your outcome.


-C

I know what cruel is and I know what arrogant is.
You seem to know what god thinks by this statement>As for this guy, if he was a very committed Christian, I would say that god gave him a final test with the tumor. And when he passed the test, God took him to his kingdom.> that's an arrogant assumption in that you claim to know what god's purpose is> so since you know what god's purpose is, then answer my question>why does god allow babies to be raped & murdered> and what LIFE TEST (as you keep mentioning) did they have to pass to make it into heaven ? And what did they learn from this ?

Do I have to add that this is my opinion of things, or can i save the time and effort to express that now?

-C

To the skeptics among us. I understand how you feel. For the first 20 years of my life, my reactions would have been identical with yours. In fact I would have rolled around on the floor in hysterics if my present day self had tried to describe some of the things that have happened to me in the last 35 years.

This is one of the biggest problems with the existence of god, and his relationship with humanity. He does not heal all. Neither does he reveal irrefutable proof of his existence to all. I do not know why this is so. I know that many religious theologies have written many theories to explain it, but whether they are right or wrong I cannot say.

The best reason I have heard is that the nature of gods relationship with humanity is such that by and large it relies on faith. If god proves his existence there is no need for faith. (This is what happened to me. I never had faith in god. I still don't because i was pushed straight from outright disbelief to reluctant acceptance of his reality)

Thus, taking me as an example, I act as I do because I know god exists. This limits my actions and really removes my choices in the matter. In general, god gave mankind free choice and he wants them to choose to follow him as an act of faith.

Proof of healing is a difficult thing to achieve. I can offer a number of independent witnesses who saw what happened to me, and can verify that extreme pain was removed and mobility restored instantaneously by nothing more than prayer and a laying on of hands. Likewise, there are one or two witnesses to other miracles in my life. But I know that, just like LT.Ripley, this would not constitute proof to that younger me, so I can appreciate her? point of view.

I will say that I have never lied, nor embellished, any of the personal experiences I have recounted here. It doesn't really matter if individuals chose to believe that. Sometimes, in recounting my earliest experiences, slight details may be different. That is the nature of memory, even regarding momentous events, after 35 years.
I keep telling them because they offer a perspective which differs from those of most people, and because I think that perspective is a significant one.

I do not know why god fails to heal many people. Two things are impt. to bear in mind, however. God did not introduce pain, suffering or death into the world. These were ancillary effects of sin. They did not exist on earth as god created it, before the fall. Secondly, all people who accept god as their god will be resurrected into a new body, and inherit a world, where once again, there is no pain, suffering or death. The problem is people who do not really believe in god, still hold him accountable for pain and suffering, yet refuse to accept the reality of resurrection, and rebirth, of body and soul.

could be it's just life and about the experience ? that a path was laid for us even before our birth ?

I don't need any proof, I know without a doubt that God exsist and if there was some kind of proof out there I still would not seek it. Why, Because I have faith and that is just as strong as any proof anyone could show me. It is really great to have that kind of belief in anything no matter whether its religion or something else. I know God will show you and many others that he does exsist and I pray that when he ask you why you continued to doubt him, You have a really good answer. I do not mean any offense by that at all, Nor am I trying to scare you with brimestone and fire. I am simply saying, Why don't you or why can't you accept God for what he is. God loves you.Always a pleasure Lt Ripley.

Yes and I agree with you God has a plan for each and everyone of us, Always a pleasure.

God does'nt punish us in any way shape or form.

I get your point I truly do, and maybe it does sound weak , Maybe we should have a better answer. But we don't We just have to trust in the Lord and let him worry about why, or whynot.Think about this, If we knew everything there is to know , No questions No mystreys in life , How boring would that be. Now we can learn till our hearts content But we will never know everything, God does though, So we look up to him and worship him , He is Superior to all. If there was one single thing I could say to you that would convience you once and for all that God is all around you and has infinite power and infinate love for you, I would say it over and over to anyone who would listen to me. But try as I might I just don't know what that one thing is. Always a pleasure Sun Dog Daze.

As far as I know you don't have to be christian to pray for anyone. As to your question about babies, I don't have an answer. I will tell you it absolutly tears my heart out that it happens and I have to tell you God does not cause it , allow it or anything of the sort. The man /women who harms that child is at fault and NO one else, Not their abusive parents or bad childhoods ect. , You know what I mean. They will pay for their crimes , If not by man then by God or as I hope BOTH. I think that any kind of child abuse is UNFORGIVABLE REPREHENSIBLE and I would never condone it no matter what the circumstances were! Now As a christian I am to forgive and not hate , And I do know that So please don't send me messages saying such(not mlor, Anyone )I will have to answer To God for that. Always a pleasure MLOR.

While I agree with alot of what you said, I have to respectfuly disagree with what you sad about Bess, sure she may have done things that shes not proud of , But we all have, thats not for us to judge. But she does not deserve to be ill and in pain, God does not punish us, We may punish ourselves But not God. Darkwind I apoligize that was even said. Now I mean no offense what so ever to you crovus, I know you were only stating your opinion and nothings wrong with that , Thats what UM is for. As for MLOR's Friend with the tumor maybe it was a test God gave him, But thats not for us to say We hould never judge another person thats Gods job not ours. I agree that God has a plan for us and if we are not done with what ever it is we are to accomplish he intervines, I know he heals and I don't know why some and not others, We have control over our own lives and have to find what our purpose is , Some try and find it Some don't , I would hope we all look and search for the reason. LT Ripley also said we all have a path and its maybe planned from birth, We just have to learn our own path in life, Always a pleasure, Crovus.

My mom says that she used to have really bad allergies, got prayed for, and was completely healed of them.

Everyone is healed by the power of God.

Every single one , every disease , can only be healed by Him .

All healings are miracles.


Merry Christmas to all.

God's power is absolute .Literally. Just absolute .

" Everyone has the ability to heal, some have more talent than others."

Yes Darkwind .

i would add , that everyone can also heal himself , through the power of God . All healing comes from Him.

Keep the faith Sandee, you're where you need to be, hold fast, hold strong. Hebrews 11: 1-3 tells us: Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for. By Faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. And 1Peter 1: 1-8 tells us: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never spoil or fade-kept in Heaven for you, who through faith are sheilded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that your faith-of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire-may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.(NIV)

one - God doesn't subscribe to any religion or belief.

oh I don't doubt God at all. I don't believe in your opinion of God. you make God small and petty. confine God to human limitations and emotions. Your idea of Gods love has strings attached. Something God if perfect would have no need for. why would God for example need to feel jealous or angry ? those are human shortcomings.

you can't scare me with brimestone or fire because there isn't any.

I can accept God for what God is. God is simple. God accepts all no matter what , no matter what 'sin' , no matter religious belief or none at all. That's how big and loving and perfect God is. Why can't you Accept God for what God is ? Why do you limit God ? small and petty , rules of how to reach God . that isn't the faith of a child it's the faith of those wanting to play king of the mountain. it's the faith of those who aren't quite sure so make up rules.

you love God out of fear of hell (which you yourself create) not for love itself. what is so hard believing that God loves hitler and has hitler in heaven just as he has mother teresa ? muslim side by side with jews and christians and buddhists and hindu's and the extreamists of them all. what happens here we don't take with us. only the experience.
humanly it may be hard to understand but I'm not God . God has a purpose for everything.


you believe in the bible - well it states God created all - the light and the dark - good and evil. all for Gods purpose.

if it be for Gods purpose it isn't a sin. and since no one knows Gods purpose none can say otherwise.

we are spiritual beings ( that which is God in us ) having a human experience. get over it. your beliefs are not better in Gods eyes than anyone elses.

ps - and the thing is , unless your extreamly in denial and like a small God , you know I'm right. God doesn't need to forgive anyone because all goes according to Gods plan. it's why some heal and some don't. why bad things happen and why good. it is all. and it's all for the experience.

What about healing amputees ?

Have you ever seen a christians limbs regenerated through prayer ? I bet you have not,any of you .


Why do amputees not deserve<< (word you used )healing ?




No matter how many people pray, no matter how often they pray, no matter how sincere they are, no matter how much they believe, no matter how deserving the amputee, what we know is that prayers do not inspire God to regenerate amputated legs. This happens despite what Jesus promises us in Matthew 21:21, John 14:14, Mark 11:24, etc.



I love the amputated leg argument !

I'm the best miracle example I know of. After meeting God (I have no doubt now that it was God/Jesus), I was cured from my ailment. I was bedridden for almost a month, you see.