Live Free or Die
Dec 22 2007, 05:55 AM
The conspiracy to ignore and marginalize presidential candidate Ron Paul is not a theory. In this case, a jury would have to conclude a conspiracy against Dr. Paul by the mindcontrol media exists.
First, MSNBC reported that Ron Paul scored the highest positive votes in both Republican debates he attended. That means he beat out Romney, McCain and Giuliani. There was no mention of these poll results in the major media.
Dick Morris, political pundit and former Clinton buddy, wrote an opinion piece that appeared in many media publications 5/7/07, in which he claimed John McCain had won the debate, and I could find nowhere in his piece that Ron Paul had even attended.
CNN’s Glenn Beck, an alleged conservative (my fanny) ran a tiny clip on his show that tried to make Ron Paul look like a blithering idiot. He then went on to ask, "How did this guy get in the debate at all?"
Even WorldNetDaily, a prominent, conservative Internet news provider, has largely ignored Ron Paul’s candidacy.
When a candidate wins two debate polls in a row that are reported by the likes of MSNBC on its own web page, that is news, especially since the winner of both polls allegedly had no chance to win the nomination. The media normally jumps on that kind of news, because people in America love underdogs, but not this time.
No, this is a concerted effort.
Ron Paul won the debate hands down - all the polls show it - but the establishment media are loathe to report it, because if a tree falls in the forest and the corporate press choose not to report on it then it doesn't make a sound.
After several days of voting, the online MSNBC poll has Ron Paul leading in every single positive category, proving that the vast majority think he won the debate. In an ABC News poll, well over 7,000 voted for the Congressman with Giuliani and Romney receiving a paltry 100 votes each. In a CSPAN poll, 69% voted for Ron Paul, with his nearest contender garnering just 9% of the vote.
Many would attribute this to be a reflection of focused online activism rather than overall national opinion, but the fact is that Paul was way ahead of the other candidates in the hours after the debate ended and before the polls had been widely publicized by websites supportive of the Texas Congressman.
Source: Google Ron Paul Media Conspiracy
el midgetron
Dec 22 2007, 06:02 AM
Don't bother. People like voting for candidates that have been pre-chosen for them. It makes them feel like part of the club.
Unlimited
Dec 22 2007, 11:45 AM
pauls dead...i've heard that one before....
Live Free or Die
Jan 2 2008, 04:38 PM
Last night in Iowa Ron Paul was "beaned"; this is the second time the bean caucus has been held, the last winner won Iowa. I watched Foxnews, CNN and MSNBC this morning waiting for Ron Paul to finally get some coverage due to him leading all GOP candidates in the bean count...but nothing...
Republicans:
Ron Paul 132
Mitt Romney 87
Rudy Giuliani 71
Mike Huckabee 70
John McCain 46
Fred Thompson 46
Duncan Hunter 5
thunkerdrone
Jan 2 2008, 05:11 PM
Ron Paul wants to change some things to improve life for the average citizen, while
the media is owned and controlled by the banking elite that want things to remain exactly as they are or to make things even worse
for the average citizen of the world.
Veni Vidi Vici
Jan 3 2008, 03:56 AM
Yes it is all true, this guy is being conspirated against. The conspiracy members have control over the most powerful media corporations abd they choose the candidates for pre election run, and even who will be the president. Or even if the president will die after he was elected. It's not a really new discovery. I just felt like concur with the obvious by making an obvious comment.
What my uncle Olaf used to say is: Buy a lot of beer and chips, don't forget some shells for you pump rifle and stay home watching old movies . Whatever happens, you are at home and have everything you might need.
el midgetron
Jan 3 2008, 05:48 AM
QUOTE (Veni Vidi Vici @ Jan 3 2008, 03:56 AM)

What my uncle Olaf used to say is: Buy a lot of beer and chips, don't forget some shells for you pump rifle and stay home watching old movies . Whatever happens, you are at home and have everything you might need.
Your uncle Olaf sounds like a wise fellow.
InHuman
Jan 3 2008, 05:52 AM
He talks a big game but I highly doubt he could accomplish anything..
Fluffybunny
Jan 3 2008, 06:05 AM
It does seem rather odd to see how little coverage paul gets compared to the other candidates on television considering his ranking in the polls. It appears to me to be rather unbalanced.
Unlimited
Jan 3 2008, 12:33 PM
QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ Jan 3 2008, 06:05 AM)

It does seem rather odd to see how little coverage paul gets compared to the other candidates on television considering his ranking in the polls. It appears to me to be rather unbalanced.
If you watch the major news outlets you wouldnt even know he was running.....fair and balanced?
stang56k
Jan 3 2008, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (InHuman @ Jan 3 2008, 05:52 AM)

He talks a big game but I highly doubt he could accomplish anything..
Idea's are bullet proof...
Its the Idea that matters not nessesarilly if he wins or not. The seed of the "idea" has been planted and is not going away.
RON PAUL 2008
espdracomth
Jan 4 2008, 07:56 AM
It's just as bad if not worse what they've done to Dennis Kucinich, on the democratic side.
Left Field
Jan 4 2008, 08:22 AM
How exactly does one become President anyway?
Being in gradeschool they use to tell you how every kid could grow up to be President. Like that was the great thing about America, how everyone from any background could posibly grow up and become the President one day....yea, right.
Does anyone else think it's a joke that Bush Sr. got in, and it just so happens his son gets elected after Clinton's run? How could that possibly be? What our the chances of growing up and becoming President and then your son gets a crack at it as well. It just blows my mind the more I really think about it. Now you have Hillary in the running - unreal that you could possibly have two families run the White House over the last 20 years, if not more should Hillary actually win.
Can't wait for the day Jeb runs.
rassy
Jan 4 2008, 08:52 AM
Firstly, I know nothing about American politics or candidates etc. But when they mentioned something was going to be on the news abt the candidates and whatever happened today in a state (I think it was Iowa, but I don't really remember) , I remembered this thread and thought, hmmm, let's see if they name this Ron Paul person, as I remembered his name. They mentioned 7 names and that was it - 3 republicans and 4 democrats, I believe. None of them was Ron Paul. I don't know if this has any significance, but I thought I'd mention it anyways. I don't think the Canadian news reports the American election stuff very in depth, though, so I doubt we get very much details at all.
frenat
Jan 4 2008, 01:36 PM
It was the Iowa caucus and Ron Paul was most certainly mentioned. He was 5th on the Republican side with about 10% of the votes. He wasn't mentioned very prominently because he just didn't do that well. The bigger news was that Clinton was 3rd in the democrats and the number 1 spot was taken by newcomer Obama.
rassy
Jan 4 2008, 10:11 PM
QUOTE (frenat @ Jan 4 2008, 08:36 AM)

It was the Iowa caucus and Ron Paul was most certainly mentioned. He was 5th on the Republican side with about 10% of the votes. He wasn't mentioned very prominently because he just didn't do that well. The bigger news was that Clinton was 3rd in the democrats and the number 1 spot was taken by newcomer Obama.
I just said he wasn't mentioned in our news, that I watched last night. That doesn't mean he wasn't mentioned at all anywhere else. Also, like I previously mentioned, I don't think Canadian news would probably give really detailed reports (as I was watching Canadian news), although I am sure if someone here was interested in more detailed information, they'd be smart enough to watch an Amercian station.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 4 2008, 10:52 PM
I am all for Ron Paul. His views on just about everything match mine.
Unlimited
Jan 4 2008, 10:55 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jan 4 2008, 10:52 PM)

I am all for Ron Paul. His views on just about everything match mine.
boycott FOXnews like they are boycotting Ron Paul in the next debate....he scores 10% and isnt invited to the debate...
REBEL
Jan 5 2008, 02:06 PM
I don't know much about this Ron Paul dude but from what i can gather from his supporters all over myspace they're making him out to be some kind of revolutionary politician out to clean up and clean out the shadowy government.

Whats to say 'if' <-- and thats a BIG IF he even takes over the reins, that the global elite decide to switch off his head lights....''accidentally'' of course?
espdracomth
Jan 6 2008, 07:45 AM
I don't care for him, I do see the media conspiring against him, they've done the same to Dennis Kucinich. In my opinion Ron Paul is far from what people think he is, go check out independent sources and you'll see he hardly stands behind what he says he believes. I myself am going for Dennis because the records show he is committed to what he believes and doesn't budge. The media sees the same message in Ron Paul as they do in Dennis Kucinich, that's why they are constantly barred from debates, or never get any airtime. It's a shame what's happening.
KILLUMANATI
Jan 6 2008, 12:16 PM
good to see this topic, because me and my cousin were just talking about how Ron Paul hardly gets any exposure and yet he's the only canidate who has openly opposed the North American Union and Real I'D act...this guy is the illuminati's worst nightmare. Spread the word..vote Ron Paul.
jane in wonderland
Jan 7 2008, 03:36 AM
Hello. Isn't Paul against spending any money on space exploration? I thought he was so I was suprised when several Coast hosts strongly endorsed him.
et's daddy
Jan 9 2008, 01:53 AM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jan 4 2008, 05:52 PM)

I am all for Ron Paul. His views on just about everything match mine.
are you kidding me .... im gone for almost a year and come back to find out you have sunk this low ????
i honestly didnt even know he was a candidate until recently .... and when i found out i decided to do a little checking .. i was appalled at what i found
his health plan seems ludicrous .... allow nurses and pharmacists to prescribe certain medication .... does he take into account the increased malpractice insurance they will have to pay to do this ...... does he take into account your insurance company paying a visit to a doctors office and a nurses office and a pharmacist all for different ailments .... does he take into account all the extra paperwork because you may now receive medical help from 3 or more different people ...... does he take into account the headaches when you go to the emergency room and they ask who your caregiver is and you give them 3 names ?
how about his plan to do away with Federal Income Tax and certain government agencies ..... does he expect all the US Service members to serve for free .... how does he plan to pay for the FBI ..... or Medicaid .... or Medicare ... or Social Security ... or Food Stamps ... or WIC .... or any number of other Federal programs ?
maybe he isnt getting the coverage because he is a loon
dethstalker
Jan 9 2008, 10:09 PM
People fear change, and great change is necessary to fix many of the problems facing our country. Change like this could also screw the elite who have managed to use the dollar and these joke programs to create a false sense of security while bankrupting the middle class into slavery to their monopolies.
Ron Paul for President 2008
ninety9
Jan 9 2008, 10:44 PM
QUOTE (et's daddy @ Jan 8 2008, 06:53 PM)

are you kidding me .... im gone for almost a year and come back to find out you have sunk this low ????
i honestly didnt even know he was a candidate until recently .... and when i found out i decided to do a little checking .. i was appalled at what i found
his health plan seems ludicrous .... allow nurses and pharmacists to prescribe certain medication .... does he take into account the increased malpractice insurance they will have to pay to do this ...... does he take into account your insurance company paying a visit to a doctors office and a nurses office and a pharmacist all for different ailments .... does he take into account all the extra paperwork because you may now receive medical help from 3 or more different people ...... does he take into account the headaches when you go to the emergency room and they ask who your caregiver is and you give them 3 names ?
how about his plan to do away with Federal Income Tax and certain government agencies ..... does he expect all the US Service members to serve for free .... how does he plan to pay for the FBI ..... or Medicaid .... or Medicare ... or Social Security ... or Food Stamps ... or WIC .... or any number of other Federal programs ?
maybe he isnt getting the coverage because he is a loon

From what I understand you can already get prescription medication from the internet, with internet Doctor's consent. if people want to use nurses and pharmacist as replacement for doctors, what is wrong with that? Do you have any idea how much debt this country is in? If the same policies are continued there won't be any medical care or freedom for anybody. As far as the federal programs you mentioned, By eliminating alot of the bloated beurocracy throughout the federal government in every agency acroos the board, including eliminating some such as NASA and The department of energy, and many others, you might possibly save this country from outright bankruptcy. The first thing though is to stop policing the entire world for the NWO, that alone would save several hundred billion dollars there.
And just exactly how do you think the politicians besides Ron Paul will pay for the existing bloated government programs? Raising Taxes perhaps? Or would you prefer we just pass the credit card bill on to the next generation, so they can grow into a third world country.
here is the debt now.9 trillion dollars, but in the next 20 years it will explode because of baby boomers and medicare cost's, this means you will NEVER see a dime you put into social security.
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat.htmhttp://www.babylontoday.com/national_debt_clock.htm
Compline
Jan 9 2008, 11:59 PM
[quote name='Ron Paul 2008'
The conspiracy to ignore and marginalize presidential candidate Ron Paul is not a theory. In this case, a jury would have to conclude a conspiracy against Dr. Paul by the mindcontrol media exists.
I am not American or in America, but many young people around me are serious supporters of Ron Paul, so I have been following up on him in the last month.
There is no doubt that he is being deliberately left out of the media reports. It is disgraceful in a free press, but shows not only governments censor and control the media.
Of recent times there has been an insiduous effort to discredit him as well, and this is growing - worse if They see him as a growing threat. Everything from character assassination to making him a cartoon figure and determined disgrace.
Ron Paul is such an unlikely inspiration for American youth but it is wonderful that they recognise in him values, integrity, common sense, firm and unwavering adherence to what is right. He has given the jaded and disparing Hope that these strong values are still with your country that has so sullied itself overseas and is so fearfully corrupt in big business and wields terrifying power over the populace. One suddenly sees through the eyes of those who hate America the oily white fat face snarling against what is simply decent and right.
Besides ballot fixing, please protect this good man from physical harm.
Episteme
Jan 10 2008, 06:58 AM
I agree there seems to be very little coverage of him.
At least he's getting a little of his own exposure. The blimp flew over town today. There were a lot of people standing out on the streets checking it out.
Compline
Jan 10 2008, 10:30 AM
One media person's take on this:
http://mediaanswers.blogspot.com/2008/01/w...aul-for-so.htmlIf America is so controlled by its Elite Club, what hope for mild or outright dictatorships with blatant media control?
And the dirty tricks have only just started. What courage will be asked of Ron Paul and his supporters.
ninety9
Jan 11 2008, 03:10 AM
Tonight has been another smear job against Ron Paul, i even noticed that they put hecklers laughing right on back of the Moderators in the debate, everytime Ron paul would speak the camera would zoom in a little showing the hecklers. Fox news, Abc news, CBS, NBC, the whole rotten filth in the government media complex will crash someday. Talk radio, both left and right is also a a rotting bag of garbage.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=268http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/10/...south-carolina/
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