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The physics of getting from point ""A"" which is even a few thousand light years away to point ""B"" has been considered even by the greats such as Einstein and Oppenheimer.

Interestingly enough, their theories and now mathematical substantiation would imply that space travel is possible, but indeed, not too practical. So, worm holes, time warps and other devices have been used to explain the possibility further.

The subject of countless films and books and needless to say, a whole industry, has sprung up, making the subject economically attractive.

The ancients however were quite used to the phenomena and knew exactly what it was, and perhaps, still is.

The ancient Indians were quite used to flying by non-mechanical methods on carpets, or machines. The Pushpa mentioned in the Sacred Writing of the Mahabharata (India's timeless epic) was used to fly all over India and other places.

Indeed, the Rama's journey back from Sri Lanka after a war was described in detail from the air, and no less than it seems about 5,000 meters!

The Arabian Nights, another classic and perhaps much more than just fables and stories, mentions non-mechanical flight on carpets and other objects.

Distances are transversed at the speed of light (thought), with entities that appear as people, but not just really.

Some are huge and terrifying, some are smaller and beautiful. These are the race of Jinn, or Geniis.

Evidence of UFO's

To apply today's UFO phenomena to some ETs from somewhere is easy enough, but also, the quotable phenomena of lights in the sky, abduction of people, livestock mutilation, crop circles, and objects appearing and disappearing from nowhere are mentioned time and again in stories of the Genii.

These are not new ideas either. In the stories of Solomon, he too moves about all over Arabia (how did he do that?), gains control over the Jinn (Geniis) by magical means, confines the really evil ones to small bottles stopped with his Seal (which today is wrongly called the Star of David). The work of the Geniis can be easily attributed to the phenomena of the UFO when looked at in that light.

These ""stories"" from the Bible, the Koran. Mahabharata, Avesta (ancient Zoroastrian - Persian Sacred Writings), Egyptian and Ancient Chinese texts, could be just ""so much smoke"". Logically however, where there is so much smoke, there had to be fire. Indeed there are so many stories, having been heard by, and in so many ages and tongues, that some of it must be true.

The Genii assume any shape and they need or wish to. They fly both visibly and invisibly. The abduct, have relations, heal and kill people. They are sometimes beneficial and sometimes very malicious, especially the ones of the air (called Ifrits) and appear to delight in confounding human beings. They can be religious (some were Jews, some were Muslims), or purposefully evil, and akin to demons.

All of these activities, when looked at in an objective way, could be attributed to the UFO and ET themes.

The Christian Church, over the Middle Ages, and all the way through to the Victorian age, had a great deal to do with suppressing this kind of knowledge. Today, we are free to go back and examine our pasts, and with it, perhaps, the Genii too are liberated once more to contribute, react, and continue to confound the human race.

The Four Cherubim.

Secrets of the Sphinx.© .

Andrew Raymond


.....The four geinii, or cherubim, are found in many legends and mythologies of the original creation. The most ancient ones called them Pillars of Heaven or Pillars of Him who Dwells in the Heavens. The heavens were sustained by four pillars, and each pillar had one of the four genii as a keeper to take charge of it. These four guardians are sometimes represented as the four cardinal points of a cross in the Zodiac. We will also discover them in another chapter as the four corner sockets of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

The Maya called them Kan Bacab (yellow, and placed in the East), Chac Bacab (red, and placed in the West), Zac Bacab (white, and placed in the North), and Ek Bacab (black, and placed in the South).

To the Chaldeans they were the protecting genii of the human race: Sed-Alap or Kirub, a bull with a human face; Lamas or Nigal, a lion with a man's head; Ustar, a human; and Nattig, an eagle with a human face.


We can also find the four genii in Chinese and Hindu mythologies. If you are interested in this subject, secure a copy of The Lost Continent of Mu by Colonel James Churchward, and you won't be disappointed.

The Jewish populace will come across the four genii in the Old Testament under Ezekiel 1:10: As for the likeness of their faces, the cherubim, they had a face of a man; and they four had the face of a lion on the right side; and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four had also the face of an eagle.

Christians call them the four heads of the beast, the four living creatures, or the four cherubim. We can read about them in the New Testament under Revelations 4:6-7: The floor around the throne was like a sea of glass that was crystal-clear. At the very center, around the throne itself, stood four living creatures covered with eyes front and back. The first creature resembled a lion, the second an ox, the third had the face of a man, while the fourth looked like an eagle in flight.

All through Egyptian antiquities and artifacts we see the four genii depicted as the four minor sphinxes. We find this depiction, for example, in much of the Egyptian or English documentation of the Great Pyramid, and of other Egyptian temples — one a sphinx with a lion’s head, one with a bull’s head, another with an eagle’s head, and the last one with a human’s head.

The four cherubim are called Kerubim in the Thoth Tarot Deck. They are placed in the four corners of Trump Card V (The Hierophant), Trump Card VI (The Lovers), and Trump Card XXI (The Universe). We can also locate these four heads illustrated in many other cards together or separately.

winged disk
http://ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=20&z=1




http://www.ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=12&z=1
[i]The Sumerians describe Planet X as being very far from Earth at times, (roughly 30,000,000,000) miles away at it's farthest point from us in orbit. This would make it rather difficult to travel back and forth between the two planets if separated by so much of a distance.

The Sumerians had amazing knowledge of the solar system, and of their GODS coming down to Earth. They also tell of another being that they described in our terms as "Android Beings". The Sumerians tell us that the anunnaki had "helpers" that often performed such tasks as flying their craft , or helping with miscellaneous needs. The Sumerians directly explain that these "Helpers" we not alive, but acted as so..

That was my understanding also. In the story of Gilgamesh, he encounters two of these "robots that look human" who cannot be chatted up and persuaded to do other than what they were programmed to do.

Pyramids, Platforms, Dolmens and Mounds

As is well known there are literally hundreds of pyramids of various styles scattered over the Earth, in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Far East, Southeast Asia and South Pacific, and in North and South America.


One of the problems in choosing a landing site for a vertical-lift aircraft is the dust and dirt generated by the exhaust. Before pyramids were built this problem was apparently minimized by landing on large rock outcrops.
The problem is better solved however by landing on step pyramids, or step platforms, since the tiers at each level would effectively deflect the exhaust (Fig 4-3).


Fig 4-3
Deflection of rocket exhaust
by stepped pyramid design

http://www.world-mysteries.com/aa_3.htm
Near the Golden Gate (Jerusalem) is a small mosque, the “Kurst Suleiman”. Here legend tells us that, “King Solomon sat watching the Jann and Genii laboring to build his great monuments in Jerusalem, Baalbek, and Palmyra.” (Cornfeld,1972) (Jann were a type of Persian Genii, or "Genius", who had the annoying habit of stealing cows – to eat, I suppose). remind you of anything???

- Throughout the ancient Near East we find images of one or more people flying in “winged discs”. And we find “genie”, also called “bird-men” by scholars, who are represented as powerful humans with wings (Fig 5-5), and sometimes with the face of an Eagle, and called "eagle-men". Virginia Marin (www.Suite101.com) writes that Genie, or geniuses, were “…all-powerful. They had great natural and inventive ability. They were smart and possessed great mental capacity…”

That was my understanding also. In the story of Gilgamesh, he encounters two of these "robots that look human" who cannot be chatted up and persuaded to do other than what they were programmed to do.

http://www.world-religion.org/articles/g/g1391
"It is held," says al-Qazwini, "that the Jinn are aerial animals, with transparent bodied which can assume various forms. People differ in opinion respecting these beings; some consider the Jinn and Shaitans as unruly men, but these persons are of the Mu ‘tazilahs [ a sect of Muslim freethinkers], and some hold that God, whose name be exalted, created the angels of the light of the fire, and the Jinn of its flame [but this is at variance with the general opinion], and the Sahitans of its smoke [which is also at variance with the common opinion]; and that [all] these kinds of beings are [usually] invisible to men, but that they assume what forms they please, and when their for becomes condensed they are visible." This last remark illustrates several descriptions of genii in the Arabian Nights, where the form of the monster is at first undefined, or like an enormous pillar, and then gradually assumes a human shape and less gigantic size.
It is said that God created the Jann [or Jinn] two thousand years before Adam [or according to some writers, much earlier], and that there are believers and infidels and every sect among them, as among men. Some say that a prophet named Yusuf was sent to the Jinn; others that they had only preachers or admonishers; others, again, that seventy apostles were sent, before Muhammad, to Jinn and men conjointly. It is commonly believed that the preadmite Jinn were governed by forty (or, according to some, seventy-two) kings, to each of whom the Arab writers give the name of Sulaiman (or Solomon); and that they derive their appellation from the last of these, who was called Jann ibn Jann and who, some say, built the Pyramids of Egypt.

The following account of the preadamite Jinn is given by al-Qazwini: -

"It is related in histories that a race of Jinn in ancient times, before the creation of Adam, inhabited the earth, and covered it, the land and the sea, and the plains are the mountains; and the favors of God were multiplied upon them, and they had government, and prophecy, and relgion and law; but they transgressed and offended, and opposed their prophets, and made wickedness to abound in the earth; whereupon God, whose name be exalted, sent against them an army of angel, who took possession of the earth, and drove away the Jinn to the regions of the islands, and made many of them prisoners; and of those who were made prisoners was ‘Azazil (afterward called Iblis, from his despair), and a slaughter was made among them. At that time, ‘Azazilwas young; he grew up among the angels [and probably for that reason was called one of them], and became learned in their knowledge, and assumed the government of them; and his days were prolonged until he became their chief; and thus it continued for a long time, until the affair between him and Adam happened, as God, whose name be exalted, hath said, ‘When we said unto the Angels, Worship ye Adam, and[all] worshiped except Iblis [who] was [one] of the Jinn. ‘ (Surah l. 49)."

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm


According to the Dronaparva, part of the Mahabarata, and the Ramayana, one Vimana described was shaped like a sphere and born along at great speed on a mighty wind generated by mercury. It moved like a UFO, going up, down, backwards and forewards as the pilot desired. In another Indian source, the Samar, Vimanas were "iron machines, well-knit and smooth, with a charge of mercury that shot out of the back in the form of a roaring flame." Another work called the Samaranganasutradhara describes how the vehicles were constructed. It is possible that mercury did have something to do with the propulsion, or more possibly, with the guidance system. Curiously, Soviet scientists have discovered what they call "age-old instruments used in navigating cosmic vehicles" in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi Desert. The "devices" are hemispherical objects of glass or porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside.

It is evident that ancient Indians flew around in these vehicles, all over Asia, to Atlantis presumably; and even, apparently, to South America. Writing found at Mohenjodaro in Pakistan (presumed to be one of the "Seven Rishi Cities of the Rama Empire") and still undeciphered, has also been found in one other place in the world: Easter Island! Writing on Easter Island, called Rongo-Rongo writing, is also undeciphered, and is uncannily similar to the Mohenjodaro script. Was Easter Island an air base for the Rama Empire's Vimana route? (At the Mohenjo-Daro Vimana-drome, as the passenger walks down the concourse, he hears the sweet, melodic sound of the announcer over the loudspeaker,

"Rama Airways flight number seven for Bali, Easter Island, Nazca, and Atlantis is now ready for boarding. Passengers please proceed to gate number..") in Tibet, no small distance, and speaks of the "fiery chariot" thusly: "Bhima flew along in his car, resplendent as the sun and loud as thunder... The flying chariot shone like a flame in the night sky of summer ... it swept by like a comet... It was as if two suns were shining. Then the chariot rose up and all the heaven brightened."

In the Mahavira of Bhavabhuti, a Jain text of the eighth century culled from older texts and traditions, we read:

"An aerial chariot, the Pushpaka, conveys many people to the capital of Ayodhya. The sky is full of stupendous flying-machines, dark as night, but picked out by lights with a yellowish glare"

The Vedas, ancient Hindu poems, thought to be the oldest of all the Indian texts, describe Vimanas of various shapes and sizes: the "ahnihotra-vimana" with two engines, the "elephant-vimana" with more engines, and other types named after the kingfisher, ibis and other animals.

... and then they slapped a parking ticket on his chariot.

Meow Purr.

http://www.thothweb.com/article2902.html

The Phoenician historian, Sanchoniatho, wrote that the god Ouranes, who possessed the power to make stones move on their own, supposedly built Byblos, the first city in Lebanon. This story is of course unsubstantiated, but taken at face value, suggests that a form of levitation may have been used to shift the huge blocks. Sanchoniatho goes on to say that the demi-gods of Byblos possessed "light and other more complete ships". This is an even more controversial statement, certainly suggesting that whoever built Baalbek might have come from another land but also that air travel might have been used. It also seems to parallel an extract from an ancient Egyptian text called ‘A warrior's prayer’ which originates from the old kingdom pre-dynastic period.

“Come oh Osiris great lord of Abydos,
thy heart flies on a safe distance to guide our land to light,
let us follow your boat mighty Osiris the one that flies like the stars
when they come down to earthly grounds and rise again
to make all men and animal linger before the greatness of their magick.”

Sanchoniatho continues that chief among these people was Taautus:

"Who invented the writing of the first letters; him the Egyptians called Thoor, the Alexandrians Thoyth, and the Greeks Hermes."

This is interesting because according to legend, many associate Thoth with the building of the pyramid complex at Giza. As we shall see later, Giza is another engineering marvel that incorporates massive stone blocks and whose construction our engineers still cannot replicate.








The Arab historian, Abul Hasan Ali Al-Masudi wrote in the tenth century that according to legend a ‘magical papyrus’ was used to levitate the stone blocks. According to the legend, the papyrus was placed under the stone to be moved and the stone was tapped with the kind of metal rod that Thoth and other Egyptian deities are often pictured as carrying. This created an acoustic resonance and caused the stone to levitate and move along an avenue of metal poles (which would presumably have amplified the resonance). This way the block in question could be guided carefully into position; with the procedure being repeated each time the resonance began to fade.

The construction of the pyramids has fascinated many scholars over the years. In his article titled, “The Gods as Architects”, William Saylor uses the following quote to illustrate how the pyramids were constructed.

“Then said Pharaoh, ‘Where lies the papyrus on which Imhotep wrote the words of power that went to the building of the pyramid for Zoser, yes and for that of Seneferu my father also…The words of power can be found and spoken by none but he-and if he speaks them three great pyramids shall rise at Giza and stand there forever.”

This seems to support the story told to Al-Masudi about a magic papyrus being used to raise the blocks used in the construction of the Giza pyramids.





Far away in the South Pacific lies the island of Pohnpei, and the mysterious site of Nan Madol. This city was believed to have been built sometime around 200 BC and was constructed from thousands of huge basalt logs, each of which weighed about 2.5 tons. Archaeologists suggest that the logs would have been floated into place on huge rafts. Interestingly, local Micronesian legends tell how the city was built by the gods Olosopa and Olosipa, who used magic to move the stones through the air.

http://www.janeresture.com/micronesia_madol/

http://www.bibleufo.com/anctech.htm
Technology (in the Bible) section of this site contains over 200 verses that refer to the lights, devices, sounds, and weapons associated with flying vehicles.

Other mechanized and lighted devices and general technological anomalies are also found. But, technological wonders are not exclusive to the Bible. Evidence of advanced technology is witnessed in the structures, artifacts, and writings of cultures throughout the ancient world. Many of the gods of the worlds religions are clearly associated with flight and technological wonders and devices.
There are many similarities in the worlds cultures, writings, and religions, but, in this section, the focus is on the parallels in, and worldwide occurrence of, ancient technology. The expertise required to achieve such advanced feats fall into two anomalous categories. First, the technology they should not have had until centuries or even millenniums beyond their time and second, the technology we don't even have today. Neither one should exist.
The first question that must be considered is just how accurately our accepted history is now represented. Why do civilizations suddenly appear, fully capable, with complex and highly effective municipal infrastructures, huge megalithic buildings, highly efficient agriculture and trading systems, and all the wonders of the ancient cultures? This alone should raise suspicion, but when those cultures disappear as suddenly as they appeared, it becomes more perplexing. Add to this evidence that this culture possessed technology that would not be discovered for millenniums in the future and it is an anomaly. But, if that culture shows technology or materials not even found in, or within the capability of our own modern world technology to produce, it becomes what many ancients testify it is, unearthly.

do you have a link to that story?

No, I'm sorry I don't. Every winter, I take 12 books a week from the library, and I haven't a clue which one I read that in. I will definitely have to start taking notes.

http://books.google.com/books?id=2TtOjwtbX...PPZAgTOxCCNJaTQ

Humanoid robots existed in ancient civilizations
http://www.fuchsiashockz.co.uk/articles/ar...vilizations.php

Legend has it that Hephaestus, the ancient Greek god of fire, metalworking and handicrafts, “forged” two dozen copper tripods, which could move about the place “on the golden wheels” as if they were self-propelled (or automatic?). The devices are said to have been used for rendering services to gods who visited Hephaestus. Could they be some kind of a remote-controlled robot or automatic means of transporting?

Hephaestus had a limp, and therefore he also “forged” two maids who were made of gold.

Those maids were “strong, sensible and could express themselves in words.” They supported Hephaestus by the hand while accompanying him during outings, waited on him, and amused him with their singing. They “were in possession of every piece of knowledge taught by the immortal gods,” according to Homer’s Iliad.

Another Greek myth says about the “copper giant” named Thalos, which was also made by Hephaestus. Zeus ordained that the giant should defend the island of Crete. Thalos had an all-metal body topped with a horned head. There was a single artery running from top to toe of his body. The artery was plugged with a “copper nail.” The copper giant patrolled the island, and kept the enemy ships at bay by throwing rocks at them. He was also a mouthpiece of Minos, a king of Crete.

Thalos began throwing “red flame” around him after the enemy invaded Crete. Thalos managed to send the enemies running. However, the sorceress Medea outsmarted the giant with the help of “false visions.” Then she took the plug out of the artery, and the giant’s black oily blood came rushing onto the ground. As a result, Thalos’s strength thinned out. Crete became extremely vulnerable to enemy attacks.

In terms of technology, the following analogies fall into place if we see the story of Thalos through the eyes of a twenty-first-century man: the “black oily blood” may be fuel or lube oil in a hydraulic system; the “false visions” may refer to a guided radar jamming designed to interfere with the robot’s program; and a “horned head” may allude to radar antennas.

It is interesting that we can find a similar description of a robot in the story of Chi Yu, the fabulous creature of ancient China. It had four eyes, six arms (manipulators?), some tridents in place of ears. To a certain extent, those three-pronged tools resemble Thalos’s radar antennas. Chi Yu was capable of moving along the broken terrain. It could also take off the ground for a brief period of time. The creature “fed” on rocks, sand, and even iron.

The locals buried the head of the creature in a cave after Chi Yu “passed away.” For a long while the locals would come to the cave and worship the head. A cloud of steam glowing red would rise from the grave from time to time. The reference to that cloud is the most interesting “technical detail.” Supposedly, Chi Yu “fed on rocks, sand, and even iron” for transforming the above materials into atomic energy, thus the uncontrolled emissions may have been interpreted by the observers as the cloud mentioned above.

The story about a “dragon” of Huang Ti, the legendary first emperor of China, stands out in the legends of ancient China.

The legend says that the “dragon” had a pair of wings, and its body shone the color of metal. It is quite odd that the flights of the “dragon” depended on weather conditions. One day the Huang Ti climbed “aboard” the creature yet the latter failed to take off due to hurricane – a really strange circumstance since the fabulous dragons were the protectors of rain and wind.

The above “anomaly” can be understood once we assume that the “dragon” stands for a prototype of some flying machine. According to the legend, the “dragon” could hold up to 70 passengers who boarded it by climbing on its “whiskers.” The “dragon” may as well refer to a helicopter equipped with a movable gangway.

Now let us get back to Greek mythology. The dragon featured in the legend of the Golden Fleece set in Colchis is of particular interest. The dragon stood guard over the Golden Fleece in a grove belonging to Ares, the ancient Greek king of war. The “monster” had an armored body covered with copper scales, and its sinister eyes shone brightly. There were three rows of teeth in its mouth, and a golden comb heaving on top of its head.

Again, we can offer a number of modern technical terms to suit the above attributes of the legendary dragon: “the shining eyes” may refer to searchlights or headlights; “the three rows of teeth” may refer to a system of gear wheels, and “the golden comb” may stand for a locater or antenna. The dragon as a whole may be a description of some “technological miracle” rendered by a man of the Bronze Age. ....