There are a lot of so called psychics, channelers, etc. out there and I just don't know who to believe in. I'd like to find the real thing and read their books, study their beliefs, maybe even go see them.

Who is for real and who's a fake?? Opinions, Advice?????

Amber

Well, I am skeptical on many mental abilities.

But I have had one experience, but it just very illogical and odd that I do not know what to think.

I find the brain`s power just not string enough to do much.

Though this sounds odd since I am very faithful, and have had weird experiences in church.

It's not a question of brain power, it's about becoming aware of the "force" it's about opening the mind to feel and associate with... higher planes or chi i soppose. When you open up the mind, images a can just pop into your head you can fell emotions and associate with the deceased. This is what proper psychics are like. It's not the dead guy can tell you such and such a thing in every detail like sceptics always complain about. The have to associate with entity and feel and pick up suggestions or inclination with that deceased person. I don't know how you tell a psychic from a phoney though. That type of psychic is one that talks to deceased

for the most part someone who would like to thik they are psycic will ask a "lot" of questions about family and history to "fish out" what you "want" to hear.
a psycic will tell you what you "need" to hear without having to go "fishing".

there is a large differance between what you want and what you need.
what you need hurts at times, but then again it can bring a sense of peace.
if you ever go see a psycic and leave confused, they didn't do their job.
or they are bunk.

Yeah, the ones that charge money are usually frauds. Self proclaimed 'psychics' like to do what is called as "Cold Reading." Which is where they can determine details about an individual through the persons body language and sense of self expression. And is certainly not 'psychic', but rather a logical approach to things. And they basically sink you in by telling you things that you find 'secretive' about yourself, but they find exceedingly obvious by the way you dress or how you present yourself. They couple that with vague questions and statements such as "In the past, probably as a teenager, an older male hurt you and left an impact upon you" which is so generalized that many can associate themselves with that, from all walks of life. They earn your trust by dramatically telling you the blatantly obvious they find about you. Then usually proceed to tell you a bogus fortune telling that has little to do with reality.

But there are those that are genuine, who can see your future through various mediums (Tarot cards, runes, tea leaves, smudging, etc) and who can see who you are and where you are going and the multiple paths available to you. Often the most sincere 'fortune' tellers have some empathic capabilities and generally do not charge you money, (And those that do, treat their customers with respect, and are not very business oriented) and usually feel compelled to tell you what they feel and see for you. And are generally not as pushy as those who are out there solely to make a buck at your expense.

That saying, if you want to meet people that do have a clue, try searching your area for metaphysical/earth/spiritual stores, as people with the same desires hang out there. Often these stores have seminars and try to help their customers. Most people now, who write books, are sell outs (Looking at you Doreen Virtue and Sylvia Browne) and charge an obscene amount of money. But you can meet a lot of well rounded people who really do have talents, and really do desire to help others, hanging out at earth stores, and do seminars."

Since you live in the United States you can check the website www.meetup.com and find like minded people meeting up in your area. And they tend to be part of metaphysical/spiritual communities and can get you going on meeting local 'celebrities' that help people out of the desire to help others. Just a suggestion.

-Akaebeel

So am I to understand that no one can list at least 1 well know psychic that is for real? How about Ruth Montgomery, Arthur Ford, Anyone who is alive?? I have found a local group but I din't know if I'll attend.

They can all be fakes.

How are we supposed to tell you who's "real" if psychic powers aren't established scientific fact? How do you prove somebody's not faking something that most likely only exists in the form of fraud?

Amber, there has never been a signle Physic proven to "have powers" in the history of man. Thats because there is no such thing.

Please do not join a group - these people tend to encourage dellusions in each other and that is very unhealthy.

You are all very sad, blind people.

That's not fair either Amber. Just because THEY dont believe doesnt mean you dont have to.

I liked this statement when I heard it and you can change it to suit what you are talking about:


There are no athiests without a God.



Don't let anyone influence you on beliefs ... cause in reality who is anyone to tell anyone else what to believe? If you believe it then yes ... it does exist. If you don't then it doesn't.

Everyone is entitled to their views, just some make it seem like theirs is worth more.

i cannot "make" you believe what i have experianced.

thats what all the scepicisem boils down to.

Amber, this is my experience of 56 years on earth.

1. there are people who demonstrate skills in a variety of paranormal areas.(paranormal simply means outside of known/provable principles) Personally, I believe that these people are more common than is apparent, but most people close their eyes to their abilities through disbelief or even an active wish that they will go away, thus they never"tune in" their talents/abilities or find where their natural limitations lie. On the other hand some peole get flashes of talent and lie about their abilities through exaggeration. This, of course, makes the general public even more skeptical.

2.Very few people can demonstrate their abilities consistently or on demand. A few exceptions exist. Perhaps the best known are people actually employed or used for their abilities like those who help police. Because police use a variety of detection methods and small pieces of evidence may be significant, even a small, or intermittent, psychic talent may prove important at times

3. People who make money out of it, usually combine a small paranormal talent (if any) with a lot of other gifts and skills which are much more natural. One of the oldest examples of this is the gypsy women who evolved palmistry and fortune telling into an art form

4. On a personal level, the more you learn and ingrain the paranormal into your normal, everyday life, the more it will open up to you and the more, if any, your abiities will grow.

5. Sometimes it is very difficult to diffentiate between abilities. Several times I have found things by seeing them and their location. It is not clear if I am reading the mind of the person who placed them there or locating them in some other way. On the other hand , being able to see the combination to a guitar case when the owner is not in the room, or know how many chairs are in an adjoining class room can not be done by reading a mind.
(Almost all my minor talents relate to personal contact/proximity to a person or people)

6.Because the paranormal is, by definition, outside our present scientific knowledge, it is not suprising that scientific criteria, eg demonstrable under controlled conditions, and repeatable, fail to prove the existence of these talents, however there are only two possible answers when such talents are displayed by people A. coincidence or b. a real, but so far inexplicable, occurence.
Last night for, example, we were playing yahtzee. I "saw" a yahtzee made of threes coming up. I wrote this down on my score card at the bottom. Now, I must admit that I thought I would be the one getting it, but in that round my wife threw before me, and low and behold a yahtzee in threes. The probability of this is very small. The probability of me actually visualising it, and offering written evidence of my prediction, is an order of magnitude smaller.
One has to weigh up the balance of probabilities rather than make a value judgement. Many people argue that all examples are coincidence, but some are so unique and detailed , while others are so often common/repeatable, that the probability of coincidence is astronomical. In these instances, the scales of probability tip towards the event/experience being real.

This may not help you in your quest, other than to affirm that the paranormal does exist; in that some people are able to interact with the known world in, so far, unknown ways.

It is one thing to be a sceptic, another to close one's eyes altogether to everything but the known, and demonstrably proven.

Yeah, and? All the famous 'psychics' can be just as 'fake.' Just one outlet doesn't cost you any money, the other one actually supports the fake 'psychic.'
If you're going to go into a field like this, actively searching for someone that isn't 'fake' then you cannot have any preconceived notions about what they are. You go in neutral and judge the person by their actions. Don't give 'em trust, but at the same time, don't lump everyone together and say they can be 'fake' too. It's illogical. Chances of finding someone that is 'common' with some intuitive nature is significantly high, since so many people have some degree of awareness. And a majority of people who are selling books and charging an obscene amount of money to be in contact with them? Logical that they are not so much 'aware' and if they were, they lost it along the way of charging their fans and people needing help $700+ bucks to enlist their 'help.'





You are basing this on opinion, not fact. And your post should accurately detail that this is your explicit 'opinion', and again, not 'fact.'
"Psychic" is a horrible name to describe anyone with any innate knowing. As the name has been dragged through the mud by many frauds, manipulators and liars. Your post, based on your opinion, can elude to those actually looking for help that all of this is 'not real' some collective mental illness, a fairy tale. And that is not accurate.

There is such a thing as being intuitive to signs that are blatantly obvious but most are too ignorant and self absorbed to notice. People join and form such groups to learn and help one another, and to just find like minded people. There are always good and bad individuals in these groups. People that join for the right and wrong reason. So one must always be cautious when interacting with them. Just like one has to be cautious interacting with practically everyone they meet.



Sad? Well, some of them maybe. Blind? Yeah, I can go with that. But don't be too quick to judge, Amber. It'll get you in trouble later on in life. Especially if you're looking for 'psychics.'

-Akaebeel

When contacting or interacting with a real reader, psichic or whatever term they use, you'll sense alot about their personality right away. They'll be open and honest and not looking to make a quick buck or tell you what they know you want to hear. They'll tell you truth. You'll know when you meet them.

TAPS is very good. So are their associates.

Be clear about what you want to learn about the unexplained and be clear on your reasons for wanting to know. You have be prepared to handle the truth when it come out.