I'd like to tell of a very special object I learned about from a very dear friend of mine. She has an unusual condition that had plagued her since she was very young, though back then she didn't know what it was that was making her so ill all the time. She is unable to be around substations, things like Vandegraph Generators, stay too long around high power lines, etc., because she would become very ill, nausiated, and dizzy. Storms, too, their powerful energies made her react strongly. It was not until she was much older that she learned it was due to the fact she was so very sensitive to energy that large amounts of energy around her was what was making her so uncomfortable. Her body absorbs energy the way a sponge soaks up water or a battery takes in energy as it charges. However, unlike the sponge that releases it's water after a certain amount is taken in, like the battery, unless it's pulled out, she is unable to release it. This sometimes causes her to overload and made it very hard on her. She had been born and raised Roman Catholic to a family that believed magikal workings were not real. That she was just imagining. A dear friend helped her realize her calling when she was 15 and she began to learn ways to protect herself. But, unfortunately, she still needed help. In her early 20's, a friend of her's, a druid, made her a particularly powerful amulet to protect her. He was the 14th generation of the men in his family to be Druids. Like his father and his father's father before him. He made her an amulet in the form of an exact circle with all 12 zodiac symbols upon it for her to wear with a ring in the back of it that was made to be an exact, sealed, ring. He then charged the amulet in a very special ceremony before giving it to her to wear. He told her that it was one of the most powerful things he'd ever created in his entire life.

The amulet drains energy off of her much like putting a drain on a bathtub would be like. The ring inside the amulet pulled the energy into the amulet itself and the zodiac symbols would charge before releasing the excess away from her. However, this causes a problem with this particular object. Other people wear it and it makes them very uncomfortable. Tired, ill, light-headed. There is no doubting that this paritcular amulet is extremely powerful in it's own right. But it makes me wonder what would happen if the wrong person ever got their hands on it? I, of course, am not sure what else it does besides act as a drain and a shield to help her remain healthy, she never is very clear on it and becomes uncomfortable when I ask. I've seen what happens when others touch it. Once at a gathering for the celebration of Imbolic, she let someone touch it and they dropped it quickly saying it was painful for them to touch. I found that very odd.

Has anyone else ever had dealings with magikal objects like that before?

This was a nice read.. I've never heard anything like this but it's interesting the most.

It's called P.O.S. .... Power of Suggestion. The mind thinks that it is now protected and just doesn't let the body be effected anymore .... it happens everyday to nearly everyone. I've seen it and you have too.

Do you actually think a rock on a rope can do this? It can only if you believe it and tell yourself, which in turn tells the subconscious mind, which produces results. There is no Magickal power in the rock ... but the power of the mind is unlimited, if you want it to be.

The person in question is not changed at all .... just her belief and faith in something has taken over and she now is no longer effected.



Gotta love the human mind.

well do you love it?

yea... that very true.. and you put it into word really well...

i myself have this necklace. its really cool, its a metal hand thats holding a red sphere, and its about an inch big, the whole hand and sphere.
i could say that it give me powers, and protects me from harm, but that dosent mean it does. im really only just thinking it does. its just your mind making you believe it does.

if you think about it, i got it from universal studios, when i was like 10, for like $3. its too small for me now.
it never give me and powers, and it dosent protect me. it someone want to hurt me, it wont mater if i have it on or not, they arnt going to get a weird sensation that they better not mess with me.

its only just your mind. and when you are in a state of mind where you think something protects you, you look at all the good things it does, and dismiss the bad things.

True, I know all about Power of Suggestion. However, magik does exist and does affect the world and various individuals. Sometimes one can say "yes, such a thing would be merely the power of suggestion" but the truth is, sometimes one simply needs to do a "leap of faith" as it were. I would never be as strange as to say the thing would give someone special powers, however, as many who practice shamanic arts or various forms of "witchcraft", to use a layman's term for it, do know, there are objects out there that do have the power to either change things for an individual, do damage to an individual or work as protection for an individual who have unusual conditions to help protect them.

Sometimes an open mind is a blessing as long as it hold just enough skepticism to want to know the whole truth, not just seeing the veil but wanting to know what's behind it as well.

I have no doubt that it does exist ... because if at least one person has thought of it in this world, it does exist .... cause it has been percieved. A "leap of faith" is simply just believing in something, that's all it is. So when you believe in something strong enough you will materialize it, thus creating a so called reality.



It's not really strange to say that something gives you special powers, because someone who does, has strong faith in it, just like someone believing in God. Would you be strange to say that you have a business idea that will definitely work and you know it, no matter the opinion of someone else?

These objects are just a material object to once again put faith in. It's all about faith. If you really believe in something ... it will happen, I kid you not. And that's a big part of "witchcraft", belief.




Why be skeptic when anything you want, no matter what it is, is attainable? There are only limits you set yourself, if you think you will not get whatever it is you think about ... you will not.


It's all mind!

So, taking into account everything that everyone has said in this thread, faith and belief are really just a state of mind. Believing that an amulet or a sigul will protect or even cure you will only work if you have the capacity to truly believe it in your own mind. Am I understanding correct?

Almost. It's not just things like this ... it's everything that depends on your belief and faith. Do you know Donald Trump was 900 Million Dollars in the hole and never declared bankruptcy because he knew he would turn himself around ... and now look at him, hardly bankrupt, more like breaking the banks.

Everything you do and want to do and accomplish is because of your desire for outcome ... so if you want to be protected you will be.



It's more than just a state of mind ... a state of mind is being drunk or something along those lines, it's in a state for a time and then changes.

Believing in something is not a state of mind, it's faith, it should last. I personally don't think that they are the same.

i know the afliction she has.
cant wear watches, they go dead right away.
battery powerd things as well.
it has to do with the particular chemical composition of her body that "pulls" energy out of things.

the amulete itself only can do so much, where the "majik" is happening is in the ring.
it sort of acts like a "choke" in an electronic circut ( a choke gets rid of induced distortion by "pulling" distorted energy out of the line and disipating it, can be used for harmonic effects in an amplifier)

nothing special, just science.

learn learn and then learn some more, and when your head feels like exploding, read a manual.

Yes, that's about the size of it. That's a very good explaination for what is going on.

Why does everyone insist on spelling it wrong? In this thread alone, I've seen "Magik" and "Majik."


It's spelled Magic.

Oh hi again! Everyone is spelling it differently to differentiate it from stage magic.

Hey.

Also, I see. You guys spell it however you want. I'm going to keep spelling it as magic.

Thanks again.

Do you have anything to back that claim up?

Can you prove it doesn't exist?

Or because you can't do it, it doesn't exist?

I don't overly believe in it, but who am I to say it doesn't exist. I've never seen the pacific ocean ... but .........

We're not spelling it wrong.

Magick
Magic


They're just different ... sort of like the words their, there, and they're. Mean different but sound the same. They're called homophones .

"Magick, the magical system of Aleister Crowley and Thelema"

I'm pretty sure that what you guys meant was this

"Magic (paranormal), a term for various supernatural, mystical, and paranormal practices"

But oh well. I'll leave you too it.

Doesn't a rock flattened by the rain, with a hole in it protect a person from harm, thats what I heard. Also some members of the wicca religion, and vampiric religions, put blood inside of a loaf of bread. And in hoodoo brick dust or blood and sand, supposedly you draw a line, and anyone wishing to do you harm cannot cross it.

Keeping this in mind. I have been a practicing Witch for nearly twelve years. It is 100% possible to manipulate Magik and place it on an object. However!!! and I cannot stress this enough. A. Before you place an item of Protection/Destruction or any other "Tion" out there you need need to ask yourself if it really was "enchanted" or is someone just screwing with you for their own fun or B. The rule of three will always Apply, however Because of the nature of the cast, the three will apply to both the caster and the wear of the amulet.

I am not saying that it is or isn't enchanted, but from here on out I will definately agree with most of the others It more than likely is as simple as Power of Suggestion. Protection amulet are real believe me I know, but keep the following in mind:

Protection is only from:

1. Certain Illness (So use protection *wink*)
2. Spiritual Harm

With functional working Amulet you are actually less likely to catch a cold, or even the flu, but you never know! the power of Magik is funny like that.

Even if it is power of suggestion, if you think it is changing your friend, just ask her A. Not to wear it, or B. Tell her how you fell if she is a real friend she will understand!

There is nothing Pacific About it!!

I guess I'll finish off the sentence then ... Ive never seen the pacific ocean, but that doesn't mean it don't exist.

Or

Crowley preferred the spelling magick, defining it as "the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will." By this, he included "mundane" acts of will as well as ritual magic

Crowley saw magick as the essential method for a person to reach true understanding of the self and to act according to one's True Will, which he saw as the reconciliation "between freewill and destiny."[4] Crowley describes this process:

True Will is what allows something like this to be achieved. True will is faith, which allows someone to believe that this rock can protect them.


Anything else you want to pick out?

Crowley ended up as a penniless drug addict. Remember that

Which has absolutely nothing to do with how anyone else has faith. Crowley ended up that way not from what he believed, but from what he never.

Each person creates their own lives ... just the ones who fail blame it on others.

In truth, I would not know what happened to Crowley. I've never really looked into the man's life or, truthfully, known much about him at all. I know his name and some of the basics of how he started helping those of the "non mainstream" religions come out of the proverbial closet but other than that....

I am now 34 years old, I began studying and later practicing witchcraft when I was 15 years old. Only recently I've been given permission by my mentor and High Priest to prepare myself to accept the mantle of High Priestess. Something I am very proud of and have worked very hard to achieve. I know there are a great deal of people who are suggesting that the amulet I described is merely "Power of Suggestion". But if this is true, then, how does one describe it when others who are sensitive touch the item and find discomfort in it without even being told what the amulet is or does?

Yes, the three fold law does apply. But is it not, by the Three Fold Law, a good thing to help a friend who is in need rather than ignore their problem? For the one who is being helped, if she works to help others because she, too cares, then for her, wearing the amulet which protects her should not have negative repercussion since, in return for the kindness she is shown, though she may not think of it as such, she shows kindness to others. Though the person I speak of doesn't care if someone is kind to her or not, she does it because it makes her feel good to see others happy.