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More christian silliness !! wacko.gif

These folks appear to be serious

What is Christian Domestic Discipline?


A domestic discipline marriage is one in which one partner in the marriage is given authority over the other and has the means to back the authority, usually by spanking.

A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership. A Christian marriage embodies true romance and a Christian man a true hero.

Though this seems unusual in today's United States, this kind of marriage has been practiced throughout history and is still practiced in many parts of the world today.

Here's the link


http://www.christiandomesticdiscipline.com/Home.html
Lt_Ripley
and I just had to open the link . ugh.

backwards . sadly backwards.
eight bits
Umm, lapse?

While reading your post, I thought "Discipline... as in S&M?"

Did you look at the rest of the site? Like their links? The ones that sell leather straps and hairbrushes? Really stiff hairbrushes with long handles?

This site ain't about Jesus.
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (eight bits @ Dec 23 2007, 11:50 PM) *
Umm, lapse?

While reading your post, I thought "[i]Discipline[/]... as in S&M?"

Did you look at the rest of the site? Like their links? The ones that sell leather straps and hairbrushes? Really stiff hairbrushes with long handles?

This site ain't about Jesus.



I hope it's a hoax ??
__Kratos__
QUOTE (eight bits @ Dec 23 2007, 04:50 PM) *
This site ain't about Jesus.


Genesis 3:16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."

Source - Biblegateway.com

It's all about dominance over women.
momentarylapseofreason
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Towknee
The whole site is about anti-feminism... haha.
momentarylapseofreason
The recipes are for real blink.gif
eight bits
I suppose for when you want a break from this (one of their links):

http://www.thelondontanners.com/

Even masochists bake cookies.

(And you can do that standing up original.gif )
Godofcats
please these people are idiots. ignore them, why can't anybody ignore anything anymore? always paying attention to idiots giving them more popularity then they would have ever got.

anyway........spank your wife hahaha. i must be a good christain domestic discipliner because i spank my wife all the time wink2.gif. haha i'm not even married i'm joking, i just couldn't resist the joke.
Chauncy
Women in alot of christian literal interpretations of scripture are considered inferior or subserviant to the man.

I think that ideas of the Da Vinci Code, and the whole Mary Magdalan scandal touches on reasons for the down-playing of the role of women in society.

An interesting point here has to do with DNA, in the fact that the mother or the matrilineal path is much stronger percent wise in offspring......so in essence the female side of the family is of more purity then the paternal side.

If we are talking about bloodlines, or the destruction of, or oppression of, this could be a reason.

This Christian Domestic Discipline stuff could be nothing more then a residual effect from the age old reasoning in the christian faith to downplay the female role in life, as per the possible reason I listed above.
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Godofcats @ Dec 24 2007, 12:07 AM) *
please these people are idiots. ignore them, why can't anybody ignore anything anymore? always paying attention to idiots giving them more popularity then they would have ever got.

anyway........spank your wife hahaha. i must be a good christain domestic discipliner because i spank my wife all the time wink2.gif. haha i'm not even married i'm joking, i just couldn't resist the joke.


Gosh I thought you were a female the whole time ? huh.gif

Well as long as your opening cans of "whoopass" for fun and not for behaviour modification ,good for you (& her) thumbsup.gif

momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Chauncy @ Dec 24 2007, 12:11 AM) *
Women in alot of christian literal interpretations of scripture are considered inferior or subserviant to the man.

I think that ideas of the Da Vinci Code, and the whole Mary Magdalan scandal touches on reasons for the down-playing of the role of women in society.

An interesting point here has to do with DNA, in the fact that the mother or the matrilineal path is much stronger percent wise in offspring......so in essence the female side of the family is of more purity then the paternal side.

If we are talking about bloodlines, or the destruction of, or oppression of, this could be a reason.

This Christian Domestic Discipline stuff could be nothing more then a residual effect from the age old reasoning in the christian faith to downplay the female role in life, as per the possible reason I listed above.



Your posts are always interesting, thanks Chauncy !
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (eight bits @ Dec 24 2007, 12:02 AM) *
I suppose for when you want a break from this (one of their links):

http://www.thelondontanners.com/

Even masochists bake cookies.

(And you can do that standing up original.gif )


Hmmm....................you mean I could have gotten that for christmas instead ? I've been a very naughty girl,erm wife ...... tongue.gif
MissMelsWell
This looks like a hoax to me. As a long time web developer and internet marketer here's why.

1. Their domain name was privately registered. Most legitimate businesses and organizations don't have anything to hide and register a domain publically.

2. There's no way to contact them

3. There's no information period. No information about authors, contacts, churches, organizations etc...

4. Their store front is non-existant although they've been up and running for over a year according to their internet domain registration records.

This site has all the hallmarks of a spoof, much like Landover Baptist.
MUM24/7
A lil' spanking never hurt anyone..... wink2.gif

momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (MissMelsWell @ Dec 24 2007, 01:50 AM) *
This looks like a hoax to me. As a long time web developer and internet marketer here's why.

1. Their domain name was privately registered. Most legitimate businesses and organizations don't have anything to hide and register a domain publically.

2. There's no way to contact them

3. There's no information period. No information about authors, contacts, churches, organizations etc...

4. Their store front is non-existant although they've been up and running for over a year according to their internet domain registration records.

This site has all the hallmarks of a spoof, much like Landover Baptist.



Those recipes are great, check em out. I'm serious.

But ya I think your'e right or either it's some kinky,sick christian guy trying to BS women. Some believers are really sick in the head (like my uncle).

There are sickos everywhere. Labels are often deceptive.

I've known plenty of those where I came from.


But they have scripture to back up their claims. (don't remember nothing about spankings though)

I call it "shake & bake" the truth. Or is it half-baked shake & bake ? tongue.gif
__Kratos__
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Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (eight bits @ Dec 23 2007, 05:50 PM) *
Umm, lapse?

While reading your post, I thought "Discipline... as in S&M?"

Did you look at the rest of the site? Like their links? The ones that sell leather straps and hairbrushes? Really stiff hairbrushes with long handles?

This site ain't about Jesus.


while some of it seems sexual in nature -- he has mixed it with religion. it is after some reading based on the bible - he speaks about Paul's writing on the treatment of women.

Do I have to spank her to tears?

Yes, by spanking her to tears you are allowing her to fully submit and be humbled for her actions.


Isn't spanking just for kinky play ?

No, it is a great form of behavior modification and attitude adjustment.


from what I know of Domination / SM it is actually the bottom ( the wives in this case ) that are in charge. This in not the case here - this is about real domination.

this isn't far from the guy who requires his wife to ask permission to use the phone or go out.

a good swift kick in the crotch to these guys would help send a message. or they should sleep with one eye open.
SilverCougar
Sometimes... spanking can be fun.
Godofcats
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Dec 23 2007, 06:12 PM) *
Gosh I thought you were a female the whole time ? huh.gif

Well as long as your opening cans of "whoopass" for fun and not for behaviour modification ,good for you (& her) thumbsup.gif


unsure.gif you thought i was female? wierd, does anybody else think this? why because i like cats? is my writing girlish or something? I SPANK MY WIFE PEOPLE......I SPANK MY WIFE !!!!!!!! crying.gif
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (Godofcats @ Dec 23 2007, 11:11 PM) *
unsure.gif you thought i was female? wierd, does anybody else think this? why because i like cats? is my writing girlish or something? I SPANK MY WIFE PEOPLE......I SPANK MY WIFE !!!!!!!! crying.gif


I like the fact you love cats. that's why you are the Godofcats !

spanking is fine as long as it's play.
MissMelsWell
I still think that site is a hoax... everything about it screams hoax. But it remains to be seen. I'll do a little digging for the fun of it.
Mr Walker
What a silly idea. A well disciplined wife should not require any spanking. Fortunately my wife is perfect (like most women) and therefore never requires discipline. The lack of spanking and discipline can, of course, become quite disappointing over a period of time, but hey I'm over it.

(Yes dear, Im just coming. No dear, I am not playing wow on the internet. I am engaged in serious intelllctual debate. Wha'ts that dear? Now you want\me to put those ballons UP!. But i'm all puffed out.Yes dear, immediately dear:)
Chauncy
Regardless if the site is a hoax or not it is pointing to a very real message that exists within the Christian religion. It is this very message that i believe is responsible for the battle that women have endured in regards to their rights as human beings.....it is this message that has prevented society in the past from recognizing the equality between men and women.

Women were only first allowed to vote in America in 1920. I believe that there would not have been a need for a women's rights movement ever if they were thought of as equals , so the fact remains that that there was a need for the rights movement which clearly indicates that women were thought of as subserviant to man.

Here are some Biblical verses that ellucidate this point:

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.—Ephesians 5:22-33

Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.—Colossians 3:18-19

Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct.
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.—1 Peter 2:25-3:2, 3:7


Here's a site that shows alot of the anti-woman concepts in the bible.
http://www.internetcampus.com/antiwoman.htm

Now mind you there are verses that command a husband to love his wife and treat her respectively,but not before explaining that the wife is not equal in nature.

These may not seem that bad , but considering we are talking about a culture that was founded on the christian religion , and also that there are many many religious denominations that are biblical literalists......then one can see how the bible itself, indeed the christian religion had a very big role in the battle that women have had to fight over the centuries.
eight bits
Hoax is a funny category. Genuine expressions of, >ahem<, other people's perversions, often bring on laughter in those who happen not to share the authors' taste in fun.

So how would you know which is which? Some hoaxes have a demonstrably false or vastly improbable element (see our own Urban Legends board). In other cases, someone steps forward to take credit for a job well done (the Harvard Lampoon).

But there is nothing demonstrably false on this website - I take Lapse's word for it that even the recipes are genuine (Lapse, we've never seen this side of you before... and I don't mean domestic goddess, grrrr...).

If nobody steps forward - well, it would be insensitive of us, to say nothing of a breach of the rules of this forum, to belittle or demean other people's beliefs original.gif .

Merry Christmas, y'all.
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Godofcats @ Dec 24 2007, 05:11 AM) *
unsure.gif you thought i was female? wierd, does anybody else think this? why because i like cats? is my writing girlish or something? I SPANK MY WIFE PEOPLE......I SPANK MY WIFE !!!!!!!! crying.gif

By your user name (the shirt is red), I thought this meant female ? (now I'm confused)

My husband is crazy about cats too, so is my son.. We are cat people (the whole fam).

Spank away.........this butts for you

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momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (eight bits @ Dec 24 2007, 12:45 PM) *
Hoax is a funny category. Genuine expressions of, >ahem<, other people's perversions, often bring on laughter in those who happen not to share the authors' taste in fun.

So how would you know which is which? Some hoaxes have a demonstrably false or vastly improbable element (see our own Urban Legends board). In other cases, someone steps forward to take credit for a job well done (the Harvard Lampoon).

But there is nothing demonstrably false on this website - I take Lapse's word for it that even the recipes are genuine (Lapse, we've never seen this side of you before... and I don't mean domestic goddess, grrrr...).

If nobody steps forward - well, it would be insensitive of us, to say nothing of a breach of the rules of this forum, to belittle or demean other people's beliefs original.gif .

Merry Christmas, y'all.


Alchemy in the kitchen is one my hobbies, BIG TIME thumbsup.gif

Merry Merry ....................!!


I'm "belittleing" the BELIEF that man is superior to woman tongue.gif
Darkwind
Such is the patriarchal religion. Glad I am not in one. I only spank for fun.
Elfy99803
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Dec 23 2007, 02:23 PM) *
He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions.


I like the thought of this though.
MissMelsWell
QUOTE (Chauncy @ Dec 24 2007, 12:22 AM) *
Regardless if the site is a hoax or not it is pointing to a very real message that exists within the Christian religion. It is this very message that i believe is responsible for the battle that women have endured in regards to their rights as human beings.....it is this message that has prevented society in the past from recognizing the equality between men and women.

Women were only first allowed to vote in America in 1920. I believe that there would not have been a need for a women's rights movement ever if they were thought of as equals , so the fact remains that that there was a need for the rights movement which clearly indicates that women were thought of as subserviant to man.


And... who were the women who started and/or were prominant in the suffragette movement? And, more interestingly, who where the men that supported them?

Chauncy
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And... who were the women who started and/or were prominant in the suffragette movement? And, more interestingly, who where the men that supported them?


They were christians.

This does not exonerate fundemental christian teachings from istigating the need for the rights movement in the first place. We cannot deny the fact that the origin of the belief that women are inferior stems from traditional christian values.

The very scripture that this archaic view of humanity comes from is still used to this day as a teaching guide of good and moral behaviour, moreover a path of the righteous.
momentarylapseofreason
Well I looked around, (on the internet).
The closest thing I found to this site that I posted (beliefs) was Christian OT Revivalism.

And these > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_discipline

. http://lovingdd.blogspot.com/

Some scumbags are trying to use biblical scripture to condone this practice

It says here>>

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Hebrews 12:11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.

This Group is for adults interested in discussing Christian Domestic Discipline, discipline and accountability founded on the principles of God and His Word. We offer a LOVING approach to all who wish to learn and grow in a traditional Male, head of household, female submissive, Christian Domestic Discipline relationship.
Chauncy
QUOTE
Some scumbags are trying to use biblical scripture to condone this practice

It says here>>

Description
Hebrews 12:11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.

This Group is for adults interested in discussing Christian Domestic Discipline, discipline and accountability founded on the principles of God and His Word. We offer a LOVING approach to all who wish to learn and grow in a traditional Male, head of household, female submissive, Christian Domestic Discipline relationship.


There are other scriptures that refer to more or less the same idea. I do not know too many women that would submit to this type of lifestyle. I'm sure that there are some that were raised in a traditional Christian household and see this type of submissiveness as normal....or as even righteous, as being disciplined or submissive to their husbands is equal to serving God.

The fact remains though that there are many religious groups that state very openly that they are Biblical Literalists , which means that they do take scripture in a very literal fashion.
Darkwind
When I am in a relationship I find women are smarter about a lot of things than I am, so I just let them kind of take the lead. If everything gets messed up then I am not to blame, sometimes I get the blame anyway cause I didn't tell her. If a man is all alone in the woods is he wrong? According to my last girlfriend the answer is yes otherwise he wouldn't be alone in the woods. wink2.gif
Compline
'momentarylapseofreason' "....What is Christian Domestic Discipline? ...."

How annoying it would be if someone is making any money out of this
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Compline @ Dec 25 2007, 06:38 PM) *
'momentarylapseofreason' "....What is Christian Domestic Discipline? ...."

How annoying it would be if someone is making any money out of this


It's not a money issue. It's a matter of fullfilling some men's perverse sexual fantasies of domination & sadism & using biblical scripture to coerce naive women into this. Using faith as a tool to do this is really disgusting !
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 25 2007, 04:48 PM) *
When I am in a relationship I find women are smarter about a lot of things than I am, so I just let them kind of take the lead. If everything gets messed up then I am not to blame, sometimes I get the blame anyway cause I didn't tell her. If a man is all alone in the woods is he wrong? According to my last girlfriend the answer is yes otherwise he wouldn't be alone in the woods. wink2.gif


I don't feel one sex should dominate the other in a relationship.
Every partner has talents to contribute. The partner that is good at something can use his /her skills in that area of their marriage. For instance I control all family finances because I'm great with money. My husband wants it this way.My husband has great social skills and throws great parties. i make all the decisions on renovating, decorating our home because I'm good at this. He's mister technology,he keeps all computers running smoothly & upgrades them & all electrical work. I do the cooking, he does the sushi & grilling. He does the vacuuming. I do the laundry. I do all the nagging too.... yes.gif
Darkwind
Well ya you have to divided things up. When I was married my wife handled the money, so she held the purse strings. So if I wanted to do something I had to go the wife for the cash. That way I didn't spend money I wasn't suppose to like the electric bill. She also organize the house hold duties. We used to trade around the chores. She was better at car repairs than I was, so we both did the cars, until she started teach the kids about it.
Marriage is a partnership of equal partners. Almost like business sometimes. There is know room for phyical and mental abuse.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE (__Kratos__ @ Dec 23 2007, 10:55 PM) *
Genesis 3:16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."

Source - Biblegateway.com

It's all about dominance over women.

No no no no you have taken this way out of context...tsk tsk.. tongue.gif look at this again...lol

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"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."


Actually means - your childbearing pains will be eased and if you suffer pain giving birth, not to worry, your hubby will be there and you can take it all out on him and when it hurts really bad, you can yell things like - IF YOU COME NEAR ME AGAIN I'LL TEAR YOU A NEW AR** YOU BIG GIT and he will STAND by you..while you squeeze his hand in sheer agony as the bones in his hand crush and break...SHARE THE PAIN..its a 50/50 relationship <--remind him of this ha ha

Thats why its known as the pleasure pain theory LMAO laugh.gif


Only joking...sod it just get the epidural...much safer lol
Watchful
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Dec 24 2007, 07:39 AM) *
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I'm a cat lover too, but I'm sorry.....

That pic is just not riiiiiiiiiiiiiight! blink.gif
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Watchful @ Dec 27 2007, 03:00 AM) *
I'm a cat lover too, but I'm sorry.....

That pic is just not riiiiiiiiiiiiiight! blink.gif



Don't try this at home ,or I'll spank you !! innocent.gif


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