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Reptilian
The CIA have been moving cocaine and heroine into the US since the 1960's. Their main goal is to spread these drugs into poor black and latino neighborhoods to keep the population doped up and high so they can't rise up against their dire circumstances.

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/.../608/933/420107
chemical-licker
ha ha ha ha ha been watching to much air america unsure.gif
EmpressStarXVII
She don't lie She don't lie She don't lie.....
explorer

Yeah she does, yeah she does, yeah she does...
Wasn't this posted somewhere else here? A very typical rendition. 'Put another ton on the fire'
ships-cat
QUOTE (Reptilian @ Dec 24 2007, 08:28 AM) *
The CIA have been moving cocaine and heroine into the US since the 1960's. Their main goal is to spread these drugs into poor black and latino neighborhoods to keep the population doped up and high so they can't rise up against their dire circumstances.

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/.../608/933/420107


Well, that's a nice conspiracy theory Reptilian. Sadly, your links don't back it up with any evidence, other than some rather kooky conspiracy websites.

The jet was owned by a company called Donna Blue Aircraft Inc. It was intercepted by the Mexican military over Mexican airpsace, forced away from its intended refueling destination, and eventually ran out of fuel and crash-landed in Mexico last September. According to the Aviation Safety Network, nobody was found on board.

I'm not sure where this "CIA" link comes in.

Meow Purr.
The Silver Thong
Kitty you really might want to look at the CIA and drugs. I really believe it's not cat nip. or is it? not what you want to hear? meow
747400
Shame, that. Nice plane.

I do like the rational and not at all hysterical, even in the slightest, oh no no no, tone of the reporting.
QUOTE
The US mainstream English language media no longer reports this type of news hell they haven't even been reporting the fact that we are losing the war in Afghanistan. These days anyone who demands the truth is labeled a wacky conspiracy theorist or a traitor so the result has been a reluctant group of journalists who have allowed themselves more or less to be bullied into silence by the facist inclined Bush administration.


explorer
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Dec 24 2007, 10:04 PM) *
I'm not sure where this "CIA" link comes in.

Meow Purr.


Cocaine Importation Association? Does anyone know which way the plane was flying?
coughymachine
A bit of extra information. This article is cited by wiki but contains no links to back up the claims.

Source: McClatchy

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MEXICO CITY — U.S. authorities are assisting the Mexican government in the investigation of an American business jet that crashed near Cancun this week with four tons of cocaine on board, officials said Thursday.

One of the men listed as the registered owners of the plane, Joao Luiz Malago, said in a telephone interview from Brazil that his Florida-based company sold the aircraft for $2 million on Sept. 16 to a Lakeland, Fla., man and his partner, who Malago believed was from Miami.

Malago said he feared the man was dead because he hasn't been picking up the phone.

Officials at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico had no information on any American citizens being killed or arrested in connection with the aircraft, a 1975 model Gulfstream II.

"We're in the process of a judicial investigation that the Mexican government is conducting and we are providing information,'' said an embassy official, who wasn't authorized to speak on the record. "Part of that investigation is to find out more about where this plane came from and who had it before.''

Some news reports have linked the plane to the transport of terrorist suspects to the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, but those reports cite logs that indicate only that the plane flew twice between Washington, D.C., and Guantanamo and once between Oxford, Conn., and Guantanamo. No terrorist suspects are known to have been transferred to Guantanamo directly from the United States.

The jet, carrying the tail number N987SA, changed hands twice in recent weeks. But how it ended up in the hands of suspected drug traffickers remains a mystery.

The Mexican attorney general's office said the blue and white Gulfstream II crashed on Monday in a remote jungle area on the Yucatan Peninsula. Authorities seized 132 bags of cocaine weighing four tons. Two men were arrested and jailed on drug trafficking charges in Merida, officials said. They declined to identify the men, however.

The aircraft was sold on Aug. 30 to Donna Blue Aircraft, owned by two Brazilians: Malago and his partner Eduardo Dias Guimaraes. In separate telephone interviews from different parts of Brazil, both men said they'd sold the aircraft to two Florida men on Sept. 16.

"We are not the owners of the plane," said Guimaraes, reached in Goiania in central Brazil.

He deferred most questions to his partner, Malago, who said from Sao Paulo that Donna Blue purchased the aircraft in July from a company that had owned it for 10 years, and then flipped it quickly to two Florida businessmen who paid for it in full.

McClatchy is withholding the names of the alleged new owners of the plane because they couldn't be reached for confirmation.

The Gulfstream was awaiting documentation when it departed on Sept. 18 at 5:10 pm from Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport to Toluca, outside Mexico City, Malago said. He said he learned of Monday's crash after receiving a call from an insurance company, but had been unable to reach the new owner by phone and feared he was dead.

He said he knew nothing of the plane's history or what use it had been put to previously. He said he'd been a pilot for 25 years and had bought and sold planes throughout Latin America. "Generally you don't know the history of the plane," he said.

At the time of the Guantanamo flights, the plane's operation was managed by Air Rutter International, a California-based air charter service, but was owned by someone else. Air Rutter's owner, Bill Cripe, refused to identify that owner, except to say he was a reputable businessman. Cripe also said he didn't know about any flights to Guantanamo.
ships-cat
QUOTE (The Silver Thong @ Dec 24 2007, 11:11 AM) *
Kitty you really might want to look at the CIA and drugs. I really believe it's not cat nip. or is it? not what you want to hear? meow


Oh gosh, I have no doubt it was a drugs flight (based on various report, including the Aviation Safety Network). What I havn't seen yet is any tie-in to the CIA. Perhaps it exists, but not in any links that have been posted in this thread.

Meow Purr.
The Silver Thong
LOL i like the tittle, the WAR on drugs
The Silver Thong
FAILED
coughymachine
Take a look at Donna Blue Aircraft's website. Is this the best they could do after 20 years service? Don't forget to take a look at the compelling testimonial.
The Silver Thong
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Dec 24 2007, 04:17 AM) *
Oh gosh, I have no doubt it was a drugs flight (based on various report, including the Aviation Safety Network). What I havn't seen yet is any tie-in to the CIA. Perhaps it exists, but not in any links that have been posted in this thread.

Meow Purr.


How dare you ask for a link, when their are many. You don't care to look, fine. I have done so, and posted them.. many times. Meow what ever. I do respect you and i thought you would come up with something better than that. You Know about the CIA and drugs and to play ignorance is a shame on you. Wet your paw
ships-cat
QUOTE (The Silver Thong @ Dec 24 2007, 11:28 AM) *
How dare you ask for a link, when their are many. You don't care to look, fine. I have done so, and posted them.. many times. Meow what ever. I do respect you and i thought you would come up with something better than that. You Know about the CIA and drugs and to play ignorance is a shame on you. Wet your paw

My my... <makes 'Thong a nice cup of hot chocolate with extra sprinkles on to calm him down>

I certainly wasn't aware of any links suggesting that the CIA deliberately imported drugs to keep the civilian population under control, as suggested in the OPA tongue.gif


Oh - and as for the website coughymachine - egads - what a disaster area. If you think the TEXT content is bad, you should see the source code. <shudder> In addition, on the contacts page, they couldn't even get their own email address right. Interestingly, it was created in August, one month before the 'plane went down.

The registrars have locked the domain, so I wonder wether the FBI is involved by now ?

Meow Purr.
Unlimited
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Dec 24 2007, 11:48 AM) *
The registrars have locked the domain, so I wonder wether the FBI is involved by now ?

Meow Purr.


If it was a CIA drug plane? the FBI will be involved covering it up....the cia commits crimes and the fbi covers them up..thats how they do it in tandem...
explorer
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Dec 24 2007, 10:48 PM) *
My my... <makes 'Thong a nice cup of hot chocolate with extra sprinkles on to calm him down>

I certainly wasn't aware of any links suggesting that the CIA deliberately imported drugs to keep the civilian population under control, as suggested in the OPA tongue.gif


Oh - and as for the website coughymachine - egads - what a disaster area. If you think the TEXT content is bad, you should see the source code. <shudder> In addition, on the contacts page, they couldn't even get their own email address right. Interestingly, it was created in August, one month before the 'plane went down.

The registrars have locked the domain, so I wonder wether the FBI is involved by now ?

Meow Purr.


You're right, that site's embarrassing. It reads as though someone from China wrote it. But mmm, suspicionality grow in all directionifications. What responsity did you get from info@homestead.com? Hoh slinky catso, what ploblem with email? How you know email not right?
ships-cat
QUOTE (explorer @ Dec 24 2007, 12:20 PM) *
You're right, that site's embarrassing. It reads as though someone from China wrote it. But mmm, suspicionality grow in all directionifications. What responsity did you get from info@homestead.com? Hoh slinky catso, what ploblem with email? How you know email not right?

Because info@homestead.com is the address of the hosting company, NOT the aircraft company. The site is a template provided by Homestead.com, and the airline company have obviously neglected to remove the 'default' entry and put their own in tongue.gif

Meow Purr.
747400
QUOTE (explorer @ Dec 24 2007, 12:20 PM) *
You're right, that site's embarrassing. It reads as though someone from China wrote it.

Maybe someone did. unsure.gif The Chinese have their fingers in all sorts of pies, as we know.
eden grange
Four tons of Cocaine, now thats what i call a white christmas grin2.gif
Bill Hill

QUOTE (Reptilian @ Dec 24 2007, 08:28 AM) *
Their main goal is to spread these drugs into poor black and latino neighborhoods to keep the population doped up and high!


Really? Some people have all the luck... wish I was a suppressed minority. disgust.gif
"Over here CIA! yep the CIA is oh so ooOK."
Stardrive
QUOTE (The Silver Thong @ Dec 24 2007, 06:11 AM) *
Kitty you really might want to look at the CIA and drugs. I really believe it's not cat nip. or is it? not what you want to hear? meow

If it sounds like bull, looks like bull, and smells like bull, more than likely, it's bull. Look at the headline... CIA Torture Jet. CIA Torture Jet?... w00t.gif
Named so because it was believed to make trips to Gitmo... LOL. Nothing like a a little out of context hyperbole to maximize revenues.

I'm sure if I Goggled Cia and drugs there would be plenty of websites claiming a connection. It's called Googlebombing. [<<look that up]. Don't think it's possible? Don't think you can Googlebomb a lie? Then riddle me this, go to Google, type in "French Military Victories" and then click on "I Feel Lucky".

Another Googlebomb example is type in "Miserable Failure".. LOL

This article is just another example of sensationalist journalism.
747400
I think "TortureJet" is a new cut price airline they're just starting. Kind of a rival for Southwest, or Ryanair.
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Dec 24 2007, 11:04 AM) *
Well, that's a nice conspiracy theory Reptilian. Sadly, your links don't back it up with any evidence, other than some rather kooky conspiracy websites.

The jet was owned by a company called Donna Blue Aircraft Inc. It was intercepted by the Mexican military over Mexican airpsace, forced away from its intended refueling destination, and eventually ran out of fuel and crash-landed in Mexico last September. According to the Aviation Safety Network, nobody was found on board.

I'm not sure where this "CIA" link comes in.

Meow Purr.



Sooooo if it was the CIA then the plane would be registered to the CIA right? I am sure they would not try and make it impossible to trace back to them....

Nice detective work cat.
badeskov
QUOTE (747400 @ Dec 24 2007, 10:54 AM) *
I think "TortureJet" is a new cut price airline they're just starting. Kind of a rival for Southwest, or Ryanair.


Never had the "pleasure" of flying with Ryanair, but I do have had the pleasure with Southwest and Torturejet could have been an applied label to quite a few of my flights.. wink2.gif

Best,
Badeskov
badeskov
QUOTE (Enigma wrapped in a puzzle @ Dec 24 2007, 05:08 PM) *
I am sure they would not try and make it impossible to trace back to them....


Hehe..but the fact of the matter is that there is no connection to the CIA whatsoever. That can either because the CIA is very good at covering their tracks or there was no connection whatsoever in the first place. Either way, we cannot tell and any attempts to the contrary will just be unsubstantiated guesswork...

Basically a load of hogwash, in my honest opinion...

Best,
Badeskov
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