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SS79
I think you did the right thing visiting your doctor . well done . lots wouldnt even entertain the idea . remember that 1 visit isnt enough for him to get a clear picture of what your going through especially as it was rushed . the next time you go write things down beforehand that you wish to discuss so you dont forget to ask whilst your there .

I disagree the doctor and medical aspect has now been ruled out you said yourself the visit was rushed . so i would still seek his advice again before rushing into looking for a demonologist rolleyes.gif

Nothing you have said in your opening posts strikes me as being really negative a few sighting out the corner of your eyes and some palpatations and such does sound like anxiety to me .

If burning some incense and getting some crystals works for you then you do that . it cant do you any harm . and if it relaxes you then thats all good. speak to the lady at the shop she can recommend some of the best oils that you could burn in one of those oil burners too that hep too relieve stress . . original.gif

As for the dogs fighting well thats kinda normal too . i have two shepards who would die for each other but they still have their little practice fights round the garden when playing outside . where they roll around biting each others necks and stuff .its their way of playing .

seriously i think you have worked yourself up into a tizzy since you did this so called spell and have become highly aware of your surroundings becasue you were expecting something to happen . and now you are just noticing things more . that happens too all of us . I would try to relax forget about the spell you did and pretend it never happened . Its all about chnging your mindset . if you think something is in the house with you then your mind will fill in the gaps for you . Its like we convince ourselves so much that it becomes a reality . The only way to change that is to change the way you think . It does work try it .

Good luck . hope everything gets sorted out for you original.gif .
JustNormal
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 27 2007, 09:08 PM) *
I was just thinking about setting a tape recorder or something at night just now but I'm scared of what I might find. I mean, if I find one tiny bit of paranormal activity then I don't think I'll be able to sleep at night aslong as I live here...



That was my biggest mistake, I recorded IT..I only left recorder on for 3 minutes and 1/2 way thru it said my name. I really thought I would have a heart attack. I was told by taking pics, or recording it, I was acknowledging it, which gives it (or them) more strength and power..I didnt sleep for months..For a very long time I thought it was a Poltergeist or family member, till it threw me around like a rag doll, causing injuries. I saw black clouds and mist type thing over my bed, and then I pretty much knew what it was. Like you I saw things that were not really happening and thought I was losing my mind, and basically the entire ordeal IS insane, which is their agenda. Maybe call a paranormal investigation team to come in, and try and verify as to exactly what it is, and then take it from there..JN
eight bits
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I went to see my doctor and told him I was'nt feeling my usual self lately and asked him if he could make sense of it (did'nt mention anything about my experiences).

Jaks, you went to your physician, and did not discuss your principal symptoms?

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I arranged one next week in which I hope he can give me a better understanding.

Well, Jaks, he's not going to give you any understanding unless you give him all the facts to work with.

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At this point I just want to be back to my old self again

Then cooperate with your physician, and tell him the whole story.

Good luck with this, Jaks.
unsere
This scenario interests me. Although you did not follow any structured rites for invocation, you wound up with unwanted activity following it. I have no intention of telling you that this is all in your head, or that you are a mental case. I also am not going to tell you that you are possessed or have demon activity, since I do not believe in "demons" per-se. There are indeed negative entities/energies that are non-human in nature, and you may have drawn something like that toward you, due to the combining factors of you imploring them for help and being under physical/emotional/mental stress. It's too bad that so many people have to learn their lesson against dabbling in spell casting this way.

Your seeing a physician to help rule out physical causes was a good decision. Now that you are taking steps toward resolution in that area, you can begin to look at this from a more esoteric viewpoint. I would advise against seeking out assistance from priests, shamans, etc. until you take a few steps toward healing yourself. Yes, I said healing. You have enveloped yourself in a blanket of negativity due to your attempt at spell casting and the numerous stresses in your everyday life. Your first order of business needs to be surrounding yourself with a positive, healing energy to combat and dispel the negative.

Pick up some white sage smudge sticks (sage banishes negative energy) and use the smoke to clear each room of your home. Surround yourself with the smoke while you are doing so. Repeat out loud as you pass through your rooms "no negative energy is welcome here. return to your place of origin." You do not need to invoke anything else while you are doing this. Just simply tell the negativity that it is not wanted and to leave.

After cleansing with the sage, meditation is an excellent idea. If you have not tried meditation before, you may want to pick up a CD of meditation enhancing music to help you relax and center yourself. Most new age stores will have previews of most of the music available for review prior to purchase. Make sure you choose something that makes you feel comfortable and completely at ease, regardless of what the salesperson tells you. Different people will respond to different music. Sit in a quiet room by yourself in a comfortable position. Don't lie down, as you may fall asleep. Close your eyes, and breathe in a controlled steady manner. Try to picture yourself sitting there in your mind. Now invision yourself being surrounded by a glowing golden light. This is the light of love and harmony. No negativity can penetrate this light. Feel the light penetrating your skin and flowing through you. This will not happen immediately. Be patient, stay relaxed, and let things progress naturally. As this light flows through you, it is releasing tension and negativity and allowing it leave you and your surroundings. While you are meditating, the burning of incense can be helpful. Some varieties of incense that are used for healing, tension reduction, and negativity removal are: amber powder, cedar leaf, clove, frankincense, juniper leaf, myrrh resin, and tuberose. Of course what you are able to purchase would depend on what your store carries, however all of these are available online as well.

Do not expect miracles to happen overnight when trying to heal yourself. It may take a few sessions of meditation to truly start to feel the negativity release you. If after trying these techniques several times you find that things are not improving, or for some reason worsening, you will need to seek professional help to rid yourself of the energy. Do not for any reason attempt to conduct further rituals on your own. Meditation is simply using the power of your own mind to heal yourself, has no otherworldly influence, and is safe to do as long as you have first protected yourself with the sage cleansing.

I sincerely hope that this helps you, and that you are able to find peace. Please let us know. Not everyone thinks you are crazy. original.gif
Episteme
QUOTE (eight bits @ Dec 27 2007, 04:31 PM) *
Well, Jaks, he's not going to give you any understanding unless you give him all the facts to work with.

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We didn't get the whole conversation, but it sounds like you may not have given him as much information as you should have. When you see him next week you might want to elaborate a bit more. You don't even have to be that specific. Just mentioning getting easily spooked and jumpy might be good enough, as long as you stress this is a serious concern that's interfering with your daily life. But I agree with Eight Bits, in any situation they will need to know the severity of the situation before they can judge the proper course of action.

QUOTE (SunDogDayze @ Dec 27 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I also like the idea that someone else suggested, where you just 'make' an incantation to banish the /whatever is it/ and see if that works. If you had the power to bring it, whether it is something real or in your mind, you have the power to banish it as well.

I like that idea too. I don't see how it can hurt, as long as you're just trying to get rid of something.
missbeliever
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 26 2007, 04:50 PM) *
Hmmm, should have expected this... I guess people always just try to answer problems by thinking within the box, skeptical as usual...
As for the guy who was ripping on me to make money and crap, I suggest you don't just suppose this or that about a person without really knowing anything about them. I work hard for my money but I have a lot of responsibilities and I went through a period where I was financially struggling. Maybe you should carefully read the topic again my friend.
And as for those saying its just anxiety and deppression... well maybe you are right but I don't really think that is the cause. There is so much that cannot be explained with anxiety and deppresion being the answer. Its 8:53 here in England now, around 6:00 in the evening I was comming home and there were two dogs chained behind the gates. I pass them every time I walk down the street. I did'nt notice them at first but all off a sudden, as soon as I was in front of them, the dogs just start barking. At first I thought its just the usual reaction they give to me daily but when I looked through the gate I realised they were fighting. One was biting the others neck. The lady came out and I just continued waking home. Last night at exaclty somewhere between 2:00 and 2:05 am, I awoke all of a sudden. It was unusual because I am a heavy sleeper. I thought to my self it was a good thing because I needed to go to the bathroom. I went to the bathroom and as I was washing up I heard someone retching. I turned the tap off and listened but ther was no sound except the cars outside. I turned the tap back on and again I could hear the retching noise once more. Again I turned the tap off to listen but nothing. I got a hold of myself and thought nothing off it and just went back to my room and slept peacfully for the rest of the night. 2 weeks ago I was comming home at around 11 pm, this was before I suspected I was haunted, and I was at the bus stop in Dudley, 10 miles from my home. I should tell you that before I left my sisters house that day she said she had a bad feeling about me going home and said she would call a cab instead but I said its ok. As I was waiting at the stop there was a front porch light behind me in front of a house, the light just suddenly started to go out. I thought it was the people inside doing it but it got dimer till the point it just, all of a sudden went off. So there I was in the dark waiting for a bus on my own at night. I got tired of waiting so I decided to walk it to the main road and catch a different bus. As I was walking I noticed a guy at the far end stop of the road looking forward at the trees. As I was doing so a bus came from behind but by the time I realised and ran for the nearest stop it had alraedy past me by. I was kind of angry, I thought if I had not looked at the guy I would have noticed the bus lights from behind earlier. I looked forward at the guy agin in a little anger. The bus stopped but he did not get on... the bus went and then he just got up, he looked at me and just walked into the trees across the bus stop. I was spooked out a little and just ran all the way to the main road. I have'nt been to my sisters since.
So much more has happened concerning me that was by no means associated with my mental health.
I should also mention that over a year ago I was treated by this sort of religous guy or somethimg who said someone had done blackmagic on me.
At this point I just want to say that I am not writting this for attention or entertainment. There are real strange occurances going on in my life that started a few weeks ago. If this was really caused by anxiety or deppression then I would have noticed some kind of gradual build up but this just started all of a sudden.
There is one incident that has freaked me out the most. Everytime I go out after work, or just to the shops or over to my mates, I leave the light on in my room if its dark outside. Its just a habit, a few days ago I went to the shops and as I went outside, I looked back at my room. I always tend to look back at my house, another habit. This time I also left my light on but that evening when I looked back, I saw my room light go off. I thought the fuse had gone so I bought a bulb on the way back. When I got back as a normal daily reaction I reached for the switch and the light came back on. I just sat down and pondered what had happened for a sec. I just ignored it and thought it was just the wiring gone wrong.
One thing I'll admit to is that possesed is the wrong word, more like haunted or attached to should describe it well.



I haven't read all the posts yet but from what I've read so far I would be concerned too.I have been there.
I think God is trying to teach you a little lesson but I don't know.Thats what I would believe.I think it will all pass once you are connected again,if you know what I mean.
primordial
The conclusion, that I get, is that you are not Possessed, and never will be. Accept it. The thread is really educational.
If you get that one tiny bit of paranormal activity Jak. ko. ex. Will you finally relax, sit down and safely say, "I am fine."? I utmost want some sort of proof in my life but there will never will be, in the way that I am. But, u never know, I might go back into being a Christian. I would hate to go back because it was hard work to let go of childhood delusions and upbringings.
Yes..I am feeling somewhat depressed that there is no ghosts, God, Jesus, Demons, Angels and spirits. I feel more down that there is no other Life(ufo’s) to guide us or the awareness. My remedy is to reason that there is a immense universe around me, and I am the center of it.

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jakz.ko.ex
I give up people, too many people, not any one from here, but others are ridiculing me (using this topic to ridicule me in other topics) so I think its best we leave this topic and just forget about it. Its kinda starting to piss me off so thanks for everything anyway.
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missbeliever
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 27 2007, 04:08 PM) *
I was just thinking about setting a tape recorder or something at night just now but I'm scared of what I might find. I mean, if I find one tiny bit of paranormal activity then I don't think I'll be able to sleep at night aslong as I live here...


Most likely you would record something weird. Its Gods way of letting you know hes there.Actually hes trying to comfort you. But if you record nothing,thats a good sign that you and him are getting reconnected.
missbeliever
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 27 2007, 09:05 PM) *
I give up people, too many people, not any one from here, but others are ridiculing me (using this topic to ridicule me in other topics) so I think its best we leave this topic and just forget about it. Its kinda starting to piss me off so thanks for everything anyway.
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I hope my post didn't come off like that because I believe everything you said .
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (missbeliever @ Dec 28 2007, 02:10 AM) *
I hope my post didn't come off like that because I believe everything you said .

No its ok, its just some people who cant take you on head on in debates post links of your topics so people think you are a nutcase... you didnt do anything, dont sweat it... lol happy.gif
Electra Rain
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 28 2007, 02:23 AM) *
No its ok, its just some people who cant take you on head on in debates post links of your topics so people think you are a nutcase... you didnt do anything, dont sweat it... lol happy.gif



I don't think your a nut case, and you have already seeked medical advice, it doesn't matter what is logical and what isn't when your dealing with Ghost or the paranormal, simply because it is your experience and you know best what's truly taking place, it's obvious that you have already confirmed that it is not a medical or logical issue, and I truly don't feel or believe that it's a negative entity, you may very well be psychic, and that is a gift, but you need to learn how to harness that gift, just like any gift or talent, you have to explore, study and shape it. Most people if not all that encounter the paranormal bare some extent or trace of psychic ability, that's a known fact, because a closed mind cannot pick up or sense energy, your mind when open becomes a vortex, and your senses heighten. I sense that you are a very compassionate person and sensitive, so your generating alot of energy, that means your aura is bright and you become a Beacon. Any one who has cast a spell has an open mind, or they wouldn't try it in the first place, I don't feel the spell had anything really to do with it, considering there is much more to spell cast than lighting a candle, and chanting words.
JustNormal
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 28 2007, 02:05 AM) *
I give up people, too many people, not any one from here, but others are ridiculing me (using this topic to ridicule me in other topics) so I think its best we leave this topic and just forget about it. Its kinda starting to piss me off so thanks for everything anyway.
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I believe the problem is, you came on saying you were possessed, then you mentioned how you were lazy and wanted money, so practiced the occult, and now you are paying for it, BUT it happens. Most here are compassionate, and we all have different suggestions, but its up to you which road to take. IF you believe you have a haunting, do something about it, its your choice. Many dont understand, and think its anxiety or depression, but thats the medical side of it. A few of us gave you choices what to do. If you are getting pissed off, make a decision and stick to it, thats the bottom line. MOST people dont understand, so you have to cut them some slack, and no one is an expert. I gave you my opinion because I had a Demonic haunting and got help as fast as possible..JN
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Dec 28 2007, 02:42 AM) *
I believe the problem is, you came on saying you were possessed, then you mentioned how you were lazy and wanted money, so practiced the occult, and now you are paying for it, BUT it happens. Most here are compassionate, and we all have different suggestions, but its up to you which road to take. IF you believe you have a haunting, do something about it, its your choice. Many dont understand, and think its anxiety or depression, but thats the medical side of it. A few of us gave you choices what to do. If you are getting pissed off, make a decision and stick to it, thats the bottom line. MOST people dont understand, so you have to cut them some slack, and no one is an expert. I gave you my opinion because I had a Demonic haunting and got help as fast as possible..JN


If you read my previous post before this you'd know I was pissed off because people were posting links to this topic in other topics, not because of what people said about this topic... anyways something just happened now that convinced me Its not anxiety...
JustNormal
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 28 2007, 02:54 AM) *
If you read my previous post before this you'd know I was pissed off because people were posting links to this topic in other topics, not because of what people said about this topic... anyways something just happened now that convinced me Its not anxiety...


What happened???
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Dec 28 2007, 03:13 AM) *
What happened???

I dont see the point in saying anything more, since it will passed off as deppression or anxiety, but i'll pm you and tell you...
JustNormal
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 28 2007, 03:15 AM) *
I dont see the point in saying anything more, since it will passed off as deppression or anxiety, but i'll pm you and tell you...



Good idea..There were people on here that called me a liar, a fake, that I was looking for attention and mentally ill. Little did they know what I was going thru and my son too..JN
primordial
tc jaks. i hope u find it.
SS79
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 28 2007, 03:15 AM) *
I dont see the point in saying anything more, since it will passed off as deppression or anxiety, but i'll pm you and tell you...



I dont think thats the case at all . If you ask a question on a forum you have to expect a wide range of answers . If you want people to understand exactly whats going on then you should want to share any updates to your experience so you can, if you think its paranormal . explain fully why you think its paranormal and not a symptom of anxiety .

Your not new here you should know how this place works . and the kind of answer you would get on this . People are trying to help .just because the answer doesn't suit you doesnt mean they aren't offering their advice with the best of intentions original.gif

Also theres nothing wrong with being anxious or having depression it definitly doesnt make you a nut case. as you keep reffering to it . some very sane people suffer from anxiety attacks . You may well have a haunting but without all the details how is anyone able to say truly what you may or may not have . its the internet . we can only go off what you say. and to be honest so far not much is pointing in that direction IMO so if you have soemthing else to add it may help with clarification original.gif

Blessings SS79 x x x
Electra Rain
QUOTE (primordial @ Dec 28 2007, 03:18 AM) *
tc jaks. i hope u find it.


laugh.gif Okay I'm lost, did I miss something, I know I'm flying a little blindly today.. sleepy.gif , but I still have my space ship alien.gif under control,... :hmm:What did Jaks lose that you hope he finds?
JustNormal
QUOTE (Electra Rain @ Dec 28 2007, 03:30 AM) *
laugh.gif Okay I'm lost, did I miss something, I know I'm flying a little blindly today.. sleepy.gif , but I still have my space ship alien.gif under control,... :hmm:What did Jaks lose that you hope he finds?



FAITH!!
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (spiritual_soul79 @ Dec 28 2007, 03:27 AM) *
I dont think thats the case at all . If you ask a question on a forum you have to expect a wide range of answers . If you want people to understand exactly whats going on then you should want to share any updates to your experience so you can, if you think its paranormal . explain fully why you think its paranormal and not a symptom of anxiety .

Your not new here you should know how this place works . and the kind of answer you would get on this . People are trying to help .just because the answer doesn't suit you doesnt mean they aren't offering their advice with the best of intentions original.gif

Also theres nothing wrong with being anxious or having depression it definitly doesnt make you a nut case. as you keep reffering to it . some very sane people suffer from anxiety attacks . You may well have a haunting but without all the details how is anyone able to say truly what you may or may not have . its the internet . we can only go off what you say. and to be honest so far not much is pointing in that direction IMO so if you have soemthing else to add it may help with clarification original.gif

Blessings SS79 x x x

Why dont people actually read posts before saying something. I was pissed off because a guy made a link of this page and posted it in another topic so people would think i was nuts, another guy uses this topic in the same discussion to shut me up. Wanna know what the discussion was about... pregnancy... you tell me whats my topic got to do with that?
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (primordial @ Dec 28 2007, 03:18 AM) *
tc jaks. i hope u find it.

Woah, if you think thats what im about then you have totaly mis read me. I listened to the song and watched the video, neither reflects upon my situation, maybe a little but not that much...
Electra Rain
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Dec 28 2007, 03:38 AM) *
FAITH!!


Oh! Yes, we do need plenty of that!!!! innocent.gif
SS79
QUOTE (jaks.ko.ex @ Dec 28 2007, 03:41 AM) *
Why dont people actually read posts before saying something. I was pissed off because a guy made a link of this page and posted it in another topic so people would think i was nuts, another guy uses this topic in the same discussion to shut me up. Wanna know what the discussion was about... pregnancy... you tell me whats my topic got to do with that?


I not only read your previous post i read that other topic too . I know fully why your pissed off . BUT thats not what im geting at . the threads here you cant take back now what you have said . and people will think what they will . remember theres always a report button if you didnt like what someone implied .

MY point is that you can make people see why you think its paranormal by explaining yourself and your other experiences . by stating your case . fighting for why you believe something is so and telling us why you think it isnt anxiety related . Only you can change peoples perceptions of you. But thats your choice . i was just telling you the way i saw it . if you dont want to share thats fine by me .


blessings SS79 x x x
Blueguardian
jacks.co.ex when was the last time you had a good nights sleep i remcommend it.
Jennie 1
jaks, if you want to know, first hand, about anxiety attacks and the symptoms they cause, PM me. Anxiety attacks don't cause lights to go out in a room you've just left, but neither do demonic hauntings. laugh.gif
I wish you the best, and I hope that when you do your follow up visit with your doc you tell him everything. Don't worry, it's nothing that he hasn't heard before.
JustNormal
QUOTE (Blueguardian @ Dec 28 2007, 04:49 AM) *
jacks.co.ex when was the last time you had a good nights sleep i remcommend it.


Hi Blue, we PM'd for a bit and he finally went to sleep. Seems he has some kind of haunting, which can really mess with your head, and your life..Good advise girl..JN
Blueguardian
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Dec 28 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Hi Blue, we PM'd for a bit and he finally went to sleep. Seems he has some kind of haunting, which can really mess with your head, and your life..Good advise girl..JN


actually im a guy lol
Electra Rain
QUOTE (Jennie 1 @ Dec 28 2007, 05:21 AM) *
jaks, if you want to know, first hand, about anxiety attacks and the symptoms they cause, PM me. Anxiety attacks don't cause lights to go out in a room you've just left, but neither do demonic hauntings. laugh.gif
I wish you the best, and I hope that when you do your follow up visit with your doc you tell him everything. Don't worry, it's nothing that he hasn't heard before.


laugh.gif I can only imagnation what doctors hear and see on a daily bases, great advice Jennie thumbsup.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE (Blueguardian @ Dec 29 2007, 01:13 AM) *
actually im a guy lol




OOPS OMG Sorry. For some reason I always thought you were female, sooooo sorry..Ok DUDE? LOL JN
Blueguardian
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Dec 29 2007, 02:05 PM) *
OOPS OMG Sorry. For some reason I always thought you were female, sooooo sorry..Ok DUDE? LOL JN


its fine lol, dont worry about it.

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Why dont people actually read posts before saying something. I was pissed off because a guy made a link of this page and posted it in another topic so people would think i was nuts, another guy uses this topic in the same discussion to shut me up. Wanna know what the discussion was about... pregnancy... you tell me whats my topic got to do with that?


tell a moderator they'll sought it out

maybe you should get your house blessed by a priest, it may not be haunted but its a good idea. maybe you need to focus your attention differently, when you leave your room dont focus on whats around you focus on what your doing, eg if you want to get something to eat focus on where you are going not whats behind you or around you. good luck
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