Well said !

This sounds so sincere .

How does it?

How can Heavenly Father not like those we call devils, if they are of him, and have a change of heart , on a continual basis?

Father (GOD) knows we screw up, this is to be expected, Only Man calls them devils in Man's books , God calls all his children.

Would you hate, or dislike your child for doing wrong?

Neither does God.

Asuming you said no to my first question.

Love Omnaka

Devils/demons don't have a change of heart. They are always evil and God hates them.

God calls his children to cast them out of others when we come in contact with them.

Again this is what you have learned as a man viewing man made doctrin.

I learned the love of God by loving in spirit, not a book.

God loves all, If you ncant seem to forgive those you call evil, it's no wonder, you think God cannot.

The good news is it does not matter If you think God hates, simply because God does not hate.

Judging others for God, does not get one kudoes from God or anyone, but it does make one a Judge to be judged.

One can only judge his own love , or lack thereof.

God understands much better than us what we are going through, Hate does not ever enter God's love for his children.

The Bible is a Book of Love, and the history of this world in it's infancy, not something to stack up , make a pedistal for the righteous to stand on Judging God's children by.

The one who sins, repents and makes it back to love (GOD) will have an easier time getting in to the higher realms of Heaven than the one who calles his bro evil, and does not forgive him, Or the self Righteous.

For we do not have any hate in the higher realms of our heaven, and if one calles his bro evil, And does not forgive him, he will have a spirit heart full of Harbored hate for his bro, again we have no hate in our heaven, and the heart wil dictate that it is not belong in the place of rest and Love ..

Love Omnaka

Walking with fire , do you hate your children when they mess up?
or is it understandable?

If you said no, Are you better than God, Meaning can you do something(Love your child unconditionally) That God cannot?
Love Omnaka

ummm not true , at all. all serves Gods purpose.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7

Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6)

Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)

One of the signs of those that follow God are that we will cast out devils in Jesus Christ's name.

Mark 16:7 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils...

Yes, all does serve God's purpose. You can be assured that we are tested by evil. This includes demons/devils.

And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;



That sounds like casting out doubt and other negative feelings not real life demons.

You can go to other places in the gospels and see Jesus' call for his followers to cast out "real life demons", as He did it Himself.

Ahh I see thanks for clearing that up because that last one seemed like it was saying more along the lines of casting out doubt and other negative feelings.

How I see this, I believe "God" is that step above normal thinking, the root of our creative/abstract ideas, the source. And our job on earth is to use ourselves as a conduit for "God". (Understand that I do not visualize God as a "person", I believe it is beyond what we understand physically).

This is how I serve it, I create, use my imagination to bring forth creation. I try very hard to commune with it as it is a part of me as is a part of you. When I work I work in the name of God, I do the best I can. (I'm a tile setter, artistic mosaics, custom cut tiles and borders). I never commune openly, or indicate to others that I am communing with God (as it is personal and I believe in not proselytizing). For me God and myself are at a personal level, no middlemen (clergy), it is the purest level, one without influence. What I gain? Growth in spirituality, my physical body may die but I will live on spiritually. I will emerge from my physical cocoon as developed as I can best become.

Wonderfully Put bruddah Mag, I like your style.

Love Omnaka

why not serve him?(Jesus Christ) I'd rather be safe than sorry if judgment day ever comes. either way the only one losing is the atheist...

Did Jesus say to worship Him Or ,,, Father?
Not that it matters Because Jesus will pass any prayer along to who is supposed to get it, just wondering your perspective.

Love Omnaka

So your serving him out of fear then?

No, I serve him because I believe in him.
I was just wondering why people wouldn't want to serve him? you may say it's a waste of time, but it's better than possibly spending an unlimited amount of time burning in hell

that still smacks of worshipping God because of a fear of hell. If you truely loved God you wouldn't fear hell. and why would you worry at all about who goes to 'hell' unless you had doubt yourself ?



and who says the atheist loses ? that's your opinion. not a fact. you could well find that God is big enough to take all , not just a myopic few.

I go along with hawkins (post#4)

prophecy and miracle. True examples of these cannot be counterfeited except by something else which has the same powers as god.

I would add direct communication, through aural or visual means; or a combination of both. This is a little trickier, because there is no independent verification, but when god communicates with you, it is obvious, because he usually backs it up with physical special effects, events or simply life changing information.

Again, it can be hard to tell if the communication is from god or another source, but after a while you learn to recognise gods "tone" for want of a better explanation. This tone remains the same even if the voice is humourous serious or angry. You can identify it the same way you would say your brothers. Also, if in doubt, you can identify any of god,s communications by the test of "the fruit" Gods fruit will be good and sweet. It will only have beneficial effects on your life and those around you. If you ignre communications from god, keep your eyes and mind open for the inevitablre consequences. God was the originator of the concept of "natural justice" or reaping what you sow.

Just to add. I have not now, nor ever have had in my 56 years of life any mental illness, not even any depression.

Despite pervasive modern belief, some peole do hear the voice of god. This is only suprising to those who do not accept the existence of a real physical entity we call god, who is capable of interacting with and manipulating the physical world we live in. Once you know that god exists, it would be more suprising if he did NOT talk to you.

God has never indicated that he wants me to act as a servant to him. He is more like a father. What I do, I do for love, and perhaps, a little, to give back to him some of the great rewards, he has showered on me during my life. I know he doesn't need it but its a bit like tithing, an act of love and respect.

I serve my God because HE is GOD. That alone is enough. However, I know He loves me, has always taken care of me, and been there for me when I had no one else. He has been very much a dad to me, and I have always trusted HIM, because I know that what HE has allowed, was always for a reason.
Mainly because HE asked me to. He has given me a specific duty and general duties, which I am not going into at this point in time.

True service to God is service to man. We as his children have been given the job of reaching out to others on HIS behalf. When we run a food bank to feed the hungry in HIS name, we are serving HIM. When we build homes and shelters for the homeless on HIS behalf, we are serving Him. When we give clothes to the poor, who would not otherwise have sufficent means to cover themselves, in HIS name, we serve HIM.
This service is first based on love for HIM, and then HIS love for us, which we show and share by taking the blessings He gives us, and sharing them with others. It matters not what kind, be it money, or carpentry skill, or management skill, or counseling skill, or cooking skill, or the ability to be a good listener, when we take the talents and blessings he gives us, and share them with our fellow man in His name, we serve HIM.

Saddly, there are not very many Christians who truely serve GOD.

I'm sorry but I have to agree with Ripley on this your statement makes you sound like you are just trying to save your own butt.

Sounds like that would make him wise.

It has nothing to do with God being "big enough". God is true to his word, and his Word says Jesus is the only way.

With Jesus = Eternal life in heaven

Without Jesus = Eternal suffering.

This is what you said: why not serve him?(Jesus Christ) I'd rather be safe than sorry IF judgment day ever comes. The word if implies that your not sure if You God excist or not.

Clever !!

NOrwood is quick to catch mistakes, I wish i was as good as he is, You know being I like to be right. Haha,Always a pleasure sama.

I was just thinking about speaking in tongues, When I was little alot of the members of our church spoke in tongues. Now they do it because they are so filled with Gods spirit, And you can not understand the language, But its suppose to be God's language. I used to get scared and then I was told it is a wonderful thing to happen to you, You are as close to God when your speaking in tongue, As you can possibly get without going to heaven.I have always wanted to be that close to God and that filled with Gods spirit, But has not happened yet. You speak of the new tongues are we talking about the same thing here, Or is the new tongue of the devil? Always a pleasure

that's your opinion. based on faith not fact. My opinion is God is big enough to bring all home no matter what you believed.

What makes you think it's Gods' word because some man wrote that it was ??

what makes you think God didn't inspire words in other text like the koran ? or maybe the text I write here ?

God inspired Disney and I believe You hear Father (God) and are inspired also.
God bless you.

Love Omnaka

That's not an opinion. That's God' word.

God basically said, accept Jesus Christ, or spend eternity in hell. End of story.

mmmmm that's mans opinion. not God's. end of story.

God has made it pretty clear that it's His will. We don't make our own way. End of story.

again , that is your opinion. end of story.

I hope I'm not out of line commenting on your question on tongues? There are demonic tongues and angelic tongues.

I have heard of two ways to receive the gift of angelic tongues....the language of angels. The first is to have some who speaks in tongues to lay hands on you and impart the gift. This is how the disciples did it. Have them pray in tongues while laying hands on you. But before you have them do this ask God to give you the gift. Then while they are praying just try and mimick. All God needs is your faith and your mouth and the tongues will come forth...this gift is for every believer.....

The second, and this is how I received it. Is to ask in faith and simply say the first things that come to you. I have heard of people saying, "The blood of Jesus" over and over as fast as they could till the tongues came forth....and you will know it....

Being slightly right brained, I hate to confess this.... ha ha..but I had to plug my ears or my own words would trip me up. Tongues come from you stomach area, not your brain and so do the other gifts. You will sometimes feel an upwards pressure from this area. Pressure between your shoulder blades are other gifts beginning to emerge.

Did you know that if you pray in tongues 1 hour a day that you will scare demons away? I hope this helps......

Maybe the demons just can't stand the insane racket.

If someone prayed in tongues near me, I know I'd want to leave...

Oh no, you'd be hypnotized in a good way, especially if it's directed towards you. It's no different when you read something in this website that hits you deep down, especially when you get that eureka feeling, as if you just dropped a heavy load that you've been carrying for so many years.

I've heard religious people speak in tongues before. It's nothing if not annoying to me.

Perhaps it's the phony kind. Many people do fake it, unfortunately.

I wouldn't put it past the people in those Jesus Camp videos.
My apologies for the off-topic'ing.

I will answer, I doubt myself everyday. I know I can be a better person I could do more than I do, I will always doubt myself, because I am not perfect. I can always do BETTER, Doubt in ones self is natural Otherwise you would be perfect, Always a pleasure

Whoa Hold it Ripley, Now we had this argument and You say we do not make our own way God plans our path no matter what we do, So have you changed your mind, Your disagreeing that God plans our path here in your post, I can only assume that you have found different information and have a different mindset? Always a pleasure!

first i wasn't replying to you. I was giving back in sarcasm the ' end of story' comment to WWF. I can say there is no more to the story just as well as he could showing that by saying ' end of story' doesn't make it so. It may be for him solely but he is not God to say it's the 'end of story ' for all.


no I don't disagree . God does plan our path. As a human being I may not always bear that in mind or remember so.

what WWF was referring to was the christian idea of God will . I do not. My idea of God as I said encompasses all. The christian God has strings attached.

I know your reply was not to me and I am sorry for intruding, I listen when people express their veiws and some just read, I Listen I know what your veiw is on the subject of God's will and our path in life because you have expressed it many times, So when I read your post I wondered why you disagreed. I have read your post on why I just took your comment wrong, I did not mean any harm or offence, sorry if you took it that way. I see you also thought I was very angry yesterday, I wasn't I wondered why you thought that I was? Always a pleasure

I am glad you think so, Because everything I write is written with all sicerety. I apprciaite the comment I just came across it today though sorry so delayed,Always a pleasure

Prayer - You speak to God.
God speaks back - Your sent to the loony home.

What can I say, its just the ways of the wonderful human mind.

I'm not sure if i believe in god.

That is ok, Father knows that most can't hear him, it is understandable. seek and you will find.

Live the best you can , even if you do not know , are unsure , Or do not believe.

Love Omnaka