norwood1026
Dec 27 2007, 02:54 AM
How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
Just a side note here I personally do not believe that we're supposed to serve any God/s but I believe you can worship them out of love but not service.
truther
Dec 27 2007, 03:02 AM
With out the creator we wouldnt be here, therefore we owe the creator our lives. Only through him can we keep on livin, we know this life is temporary, only those that know the truth and follow gods laws will reach ascension. Dont be left behind.
sandee
Dec 27 2007, 03:03 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 26 2007, 09:54 PM)

How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
Just a side note here I personally do not believe that we're supposed to serve any God/s but I believe you can worship them out of love but not service.
God has spoken to me and revealed himself to me in many ways. I don't care to discuss some of these, But I know without a doubt that he is there always. I worship God and always will, He is real as you can get, Man was created in Gods' image.Always a pleasure.
Hawkins
Dec 27 2007, 03:19 AM
There are many ways we can talk with our Lord God. If you want to know the more precise way, here you go;
1. Prophesy
He's talking to you in an position ahead of time. As a result, it can't be delutional from you mind. For example, God asks you to prophesy on anything, He will make it come true. So that you'll know He's the Lord God, and it can't be delutional, since your mind can't go ahead of time for a delusion. This is the trick.
2. Miracle
It works the same way as prophesies, it can't be your delusion. When you and others together witness how the Red Sea opened under your command. It can't be your delusion, can it?
In a word, if you are truly holding an important message from God, and when you doubt that whether that message is truly from God, you may ask for either a prophesy or a miracle to confirm.
Prophesies and miracles can't be delutional. That does the tricks. hehe...
Apostle
Dec 27 2007, 03:26 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 26 2007, 08:54 PM)

Just a side note here I personally do not believe that we're supposed to serve any God/s but I believe you can worship them out of love but not service.
This could be considered one in the same, seeing as in my experience, service or a "servant's heart" usually follows love. Just a thought. How do you distinguish them? Thanks,
~Apostle
norwood1026
Dec 27 2007, 03:53 AM
QUOTE (Apostle @ Dec 27 2007, 03:26 AM)

This could be considered one in the same, seeing as in my experience, service or a "servant's heart" usually follows love. Just a thought. How do you distinguish them? Thanks,
~Apostle
Sounds more like slavery then service to me I can't think of serving anyone who commands you to do their will. I can see worsiping them because you love them & want to honor them.
MadMachine
Dec 27 2007, 04:05 AM
QUOTE (jqseatown @ Dec 26 2007, 09:02 PM)

With out the creator we wouldnt be here, therefore we owe the creator our lives. Only through him can we keep on livin, we know this life is temporary, only those that know the truth and follow gods laws will reach ascension. Dont be left behind.
Oh, so all of this is HIS fault then? Thanks, now I know who's next on my "list"...
Hawkins
Dec 27 2007, 04:15 AM
QUOTE (jqseatown @ Dec 27 2007, 11:02 AM)

With out the creator we wouldnt be here, therefore we owe the creator our lives. Only through him can we keep on livin, we know this life is temporary, only those that know the truth and follow gods laws will reach ascension. Dont be left behind.
Yep. Sometimes people are blind-folded to know the simple answers, such as the simple answer to the question 'why all these miseries'. They are too sure about that those questions are unanswerable that they used them as a challenge. Yet I have to say, those answers are the simplest. Hehe...
Apostle
Dec 27 2007, 04:44 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 26 2007, 09:53 PM)

Sounds more like slavery then service to me I can't think of serving anyone who commands you to do their will. I can see worsiping them because you love them & want to honor them.
What if that will is perfect and pleasing? I serve my God because I love him and I want to honor him. I don't mean to offend just to clarify in case your wondering, thanks,
~Apostle
Omnaka
Dec 27 2007, 05:06 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:54 AM)

How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
Just a side note here I personally do not believe that we're supposed to serve any God/s but I believe you can worship them out of love but not service.
I do for God, out of Unconditional love, the same reason Father and Mother (God) Do for me..
This is the trinity, with the bond of love unconditional, tying spirit to mortal.
Love Omnaka
norwood1026
Dec 27 2007, 05:40 AM
If we’re talking about the biblical God which it seems that we are. One of you mentioned
Unconditional love which I can’t agree with because there are rules which you must follow for God not to punish you for not choosing him. Yes you can call that freewill if you want but someone who knew what the punishment was going to be you would choose to server him/her out of fear not love. I don’t see how this could be called perfect.
Omnaka
Dec 27 2007, 05:54 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 05:40 AM)

If we’re talking about the biblical God which it seems that we are. One of you mentioned
Unconditional love which I can’t agree with because there are rules which you must follow for God not to punish you for not choosing him. Yes you can call that freewill if you want but someone who knew what the punishment was going to be you would choose to server him/her out of fear not love. I don’t see how this could be called perfect.
I asked God (Father) Before sending me down toplease give me the experiences we talked about, Its hard to understand, but because this life is only a speck in the eternal life of Spirit created in God's immage, what you call a punishment is in reality an experience, which you as an individual asked for so that you might become an experienced spirit.
If one has freewil, and the freewill to be acountable for his love , then know God has the same power, His is Love unconditional,
and no writings in any book can dictate Gods love.
No religion has Gods unconditional love Like I remember from Heaven, Thats why I do not align myself with any.
The religion, or way of life in Heaven is unconditional love, if one does not have it , he will be the first to say Iam not worthy to be in the place of rest and love, No one will tell him , his spirit heart wil dictate.
There is an acoutability failsafe which keeps hate and predgidous out of Heaven.
Try thanking God for lessons learned , next time you get punnished, and get experience.
The atoms and molecules stay stable out of Love for God,
So do I. So Iam.
Love Omnaka
norwood1026
Dec 27 2007, 06:37 AM
No disrespect but I can't agree with you on this point your Gods love can't be unconditional when there is a price to be paid for going in your own direction. No other religion that I know of has a punishment fo being your self. I thank no one for my lessons learned in life those were my choices alone good or bad.
Omnaka
Dec 27 2007, 06:44 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 06:37 AM)

No disrespect but I can't agree with you on this point your Gods love can't be unconditional when there is a price to be paid for going in your own direction. No other religion that I know of has a punishment fo being your self. I thank no one for my lessons learned in life those were my choices alone good or bad.
Round and round.
There is no price to be paid For God's unconditional love.
Any price paid will be the conscious decision of the accountable spirit, not From A god who loves unconditionally.
My Father and Mother of My Eternal spirit Love unconditionally. If you can't believe this or understand it, thats Ok too, some arent meant to understand,
If they cant forgive themself, You gotta figure they do not think God can forgive them either.
I agree with you that we are accountable for our own sins, and Knowing God loves all regardless , would limit this acountability.
Love Omnaka
norwood1026
Dec 27 2007, 06:50 AM
There is a price to be paid for not choosing your God & finding your own path in life.
It’s one of the only religions I know that you pay a price for what you call freewill. You should be able to forgive yourself for something you did bad or to someone because in the end you have to life with yourself & so do those close to you. Like you said to each his/her own.
Omnaka
Dec 27 2007, 07:00 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 06:50 AM)

There is a price to be paid for not choosing your God & finding your own path in life.
It’s one of the only religions I know that you pay a price for what you call freewill. You should be able to forgive yourself for something you did bad or to someone because in the end you have to life with yourself & so do those close to you. Like you said to each his/her own.

To me that is not a price , but a choice, and My Father (GOD) does not stoploving his spirit children if they choose not to be in , or one with his and Mother's love, Making it Just a choice, which is a relative choice, what I might find offencive, another might Pay bib money to hear or see.
God will love them and Make sure they go where their hearts desire is after this life, even if it is not with him. Thats love unconditional.
I have this same love for my daughter, Son, and wife., and whole family actually
Sounds easy to forgive ones self, This is one of the hardest forgivenesses to learn IMO,
Love Omnaka
Hawkins
Dec 27 2007, 07:01 AM
I believe that the Love of God covers to the extent that His sheeps will no longer get hurt. As a matter of perspective, you may consider that His love is conditional on that He doesn't love the devils.
Omnaka
Dec 27 2007, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (Hawkins @ Dec 27 2007, 07:01 AM)

I believe that the Love of God covers to the extent that His sheeps will no longer get hurt. As a matter of perspective, you may consider that His love is conditional on that He doesn't love the devils.
Even the one ' s considdered devils by some of us, are still considdered sons of God, Theses sons Have a change of heart on a second by second basis.
They have learned Goodness through the trials of Being bad,( Baptism, By Fire), They are most certainly loved by God and , make some of the most experienced warriors for Good and love This universe has ever seen. Infact these same ones who have chanced The love Of God , to experience them selves and Made it back to God , Have had their sins turned to blessings , So that they might help watch The sheep, and protect the same way the Father does, out of love unconditional.
God loves all, And he really likes those who sin and Make it back.
There are Many righteous sheep Judging the rest. I think it says something about them in The bible, and or most Holy Books.
Good Morning.
Love Omnaka
Apostle
Dec 27 2007, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 12:37 AM)

No disrespect but I can't agree with you on this point your Gods love can't be unconditional when there is a price to be paid for going in your own direction. No other religion that I know of has a punishment fo being your self. I thank no one for my lessons learned in life those were my choices alone good or bad.
The people who hate God choose to hate God, but God still loves them. Why do you think Jesus cried out on the cross, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"? It's like a Father's love; sometimes love requires punishment and correction. The ultimate price for rejecting God is eternity in hell of course.
What do you mean by being yourself and what you wrote after that. Thanks,
~Apostle
Apostle
Dec 27 2007, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 12:50 AM)

There is a price to be paid for not choosing your God & finding your own path in life.
It’s one of the only religions I know that you pay a price for what you call freewill. You should be able to forgive yourself for something you did bad or to someone because in the end you have to life with yourself & so do those close to you. Like you said to each his/her own.

What your saying is confusing me a lot. I can't really see a main point. Let me try to help with what I think your trying to say.
Let me clarify what free will is. Simply, it means we are not robots. God does not make us love him. He tries to save us from the consequences of our sin because he loves us; but he does not make anyone accept him if they don't want to. God not only knows what you've done, are doing, and are going to do; but he knows what would have happened had you not done that, or had you done something else. He knows absolutely everything. Hope this helps, though I'm not exactly sure what you meant by some of that. Ask me any questions you would like to though, thanks,
~Apostle
rachelkleypassparrow
Dec 27 2007, 10:37 PM
I grew up with the knowledge of the Lord, but it wasn't until I was homeless in '89 that I found the power and the meaning of the words that I was taught. I try and serve the Lord to the best of my abilities. When I was homeless, I knew He was there with me. All I had to do was retain my faith, which was difficult, as I also had to make provision for my then five year old daughter, as I was also, seriously ill.
I have come to realize that He doesn't abandon us, it is us, who abandon Him. I try to live by the two greatest commandments to love the Lord with all my heart,all my soul, all my mind (which I do everyday), and to love my neighbour as myself(it is often hard to love somebody, who isn't prepared to return it). I forgive those who wrong me, and pray that they find the Lord before it is too late.
In '99, I was deemed clinically dead from septicemia, I found myself as conscious energy in this beautiful immense light which I knew was the bosom of my Lord. There is a lot more to the experience, but basically, I was taught how we are all connected to each other, the universe, and all living things throughout the universe. Also, our free will doesn't die with us in Heaven, we still have our free will, which is the real gift that needs to be cherished and used properly.
It is hard to help every single person in need, and the Lord doesn't expect that, as I for example, live on a restricted income. I have to help myself before I can help somebody else. However, when I am in a position to help somebody, then I will. To serve my G-d requires my love for Him and for my fellow man/womankind and to remember the saving grace of Yeshua, who is our king.
sandee
Dec 27 2007, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (Apostle @ Dec 27 2007, 05:25 PM)

What your saying is confusing me a lot. I can't really see a main point. Let me try to help with what I think your trying to say.
Let me clarify what free will is. Simply, it means we are not robots. God does not make us love him. He tries to save us from the consequences of our sin because he loves us; but he does not make anyone accept him if they don't want to. God not only knows what you've done, are doing, and are going to do; but he knows what would have happened had you not done that, or had you done something else. He knows absolutely everything. Hope this helps, though I'm not exactly sure what you meant by some of that. Ask me any questions you would like to though, thanks,
~Apostle
i don't know if you are promoting God or not but if you are great points and if not you still have some great views, Simple yet to the point. No room for argument here, Always a pleasure
sandee
Dec 27 2007, 11:00 PM
QUOTE (rachelkleypassparrow @ Dec 27 2007, 05:37 PM)

I grew up with the knowledge of the Lord, but it wasn't until I was homeless in '89 that I found the power and the meaning of the words that I was taught. I try and serve the Lord to the best of my abilities. When I was homeless, I knew He was there with me. All I had to do was retain my faith, which was difficult, as I also had to make provision for my then five year old daughter, as I was also, seriously ill.
I have come to realize that He doesn't abandon us, it is us, who abandon Him. I try to live by the two greatest commandments to love the Lord with all my heart,all my soul, all my mind (which I do everyday), and to love my neighbour as myself(it is often hard to love somebody, who isn't prepared to return it). I forgive those who wrong me, and pray that they find the Lord before it is too late.
In '99, I was deemed clinically dead from septicemia, I found myself as conscious energy in this beautiful immense light which I knew was the bosom of my Lord. There is a lot more to the experience, but basically, I was taught how we are all connected to each other, the universe, and all living things throughout the universe. Also, our free will doesn't die with us in Heaven, we still have our free will, which is the real gift that needs to be cherished and used properly.
It is hard to help every single person in need, and the Lord doesn't expect that, as I for example, live on a restricted income. I have to help myself before I can help somebody else. However, when I am in a position to help somebody, then I will. To serve my G-d requires my love for Him and for my fellow man/womankind and to remember the saving grace of Yeshua, who is our king.
First of all I am so sorry for your misery, But you obviously turned it into something great. You really touched my heart with your story. I could not imagine being homeless with my children. You really had God on your side , Just as I think hes always with us. I thank you for sharing your story, I for one love to hear how God has ministered to them and is always near, No matter what. Always a pleasure, I hope to hear from you again.
Darkwind
Dec 28 2007, 12:46 AM
Norwood,
I think you are I are much alike. My Gods are my teachers. I learn from them and I think they sometimes learn from me. I don't serve them as much as I honor them as anyone loves and respects a beloved teacher. The Earth is my Mother and I honor and protect her as my Mother. If I am ask to do something it is my choice to do it or not I am not a slave I am their student and I am expected to respect myself. A friend of mine had an experience with the God Odin. He appeared to them in circle. Surprised they knelt before him. He told them to stand with pride and respect for themselves and never kneel before anyone or thing. As Pagans our Gods expect us to respect ourselves, our path is to become as they are.
I really like your Green Man.
sandee
Dec 28 2007, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 27 2007, 07:46 PM)

Norwood,
I think you are I are much alike. My Gods are my teachers. I learn from them and I think they sometimes learn from me. I don't serve them as much as I honor them as anyone loves and respects a beloved teacher. The Earth is my Mother and I honor and protect her as my Mother. If I am ask to do something it is my choice to do it or not I am not a slave I am their student and I am expected to respect myself. A friend of mine had an experience with the God Odin. He appeared to them in circle. Surprised they knelt before him. He told them to stand with pride and respect for themselves and never kneel before anyone or thing. As Pagans our Gods expect us to respect ourselves, our path is to become as they are.
I really like your Green Man.
I have nothing but respect for your veiws and beliefs, I too respect myself and others. I don't see bowing down to God as a bad thing, I consider it a privledge. I do learn from God although he does not learn from me I still respect him deeply. Anyway I know you didn't ask my opnion, but I justwanted to say I too respect myself and god, Always a pleasure.
Hawkins
Dec 28 2007, 01:55 AM
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Dec 28 2007, 12:46 AM)

Even the one ' s considdered devils by some of us, are still considdered sons of God, Theses sons Have a change of heart on a second by second basis.
All I mean to say is, it seems to me He doesn't like those He (not me) considers to be the devils.
hehe...
Servant
Dec 28 2007, 02:59 AM
I have a interesting perspective I wish to add to this touching forum. If one believes the bible is true and that there is One God then according to the bible, God has all power and is the only creator. He can't even fit in our universe and if you were to look at Him you would die, because He is so Holy. He cannot lie, has never made a mistake, and is all knowing. All this is in the Bible. He can count every hair on your head and every hair on everyone's head in the entire world at the same time. He knows what you are going to say, before you say it.
Guys....He gave His creation a free will, so that they could choose to be His friend and love each other and do good. He didn't want a bunch of preprogramed robots that came to Him out of fear.....He wants family.... a friend......someone to rule His Kingdom with Him.....This is what the Bible says.....in Revelations...we will rule as Kings and Priests with Him!
If the bible is true and accurately depicts who He is and how much He loves us then tell me...........how much respect does God deserve?
sandee
Dec 28 2007, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (Servant @ Dec 27 2007, 09:59 PM)

I have a interesting perspective I wish to add to this touching forum. If one believes the bible is true and that there is One God then according to the bible, God has all power and is the only creator. He can't even fit in our universe and if you were to look at Him you would die, because He is so Holy. He cannot lie, has never made a mistake, and is all knowing. All this is in the Bible. He can count every hair on your head and every hair on everyone's head in the entire world at the same time. He knows what you are going to say, before you say it.
Guys....He gave His creation a free will, so that they could choose to be His friend and love each other and do good. He didn't want a bunch of preprogramed robots that came to Him out of fear.....He wants family.... a friend......someone to rule His Kingdom with Him.....This is what the Bible says.....in Revelations...we will rule as Kings and Priests with Him!
If the bible is true and accurately depicts who He is and how much He loves us then tell me...........how much respect does God deserve?
We can never begin to show god the respect he deserves, We can certainly try, As you said God is everywhere and can do anything. I think we as humans whom he created don't show enough respect towards him. Always a pleasure to try harder each day though.
IronGhost
Dec 28 2007, 03:41 AM
I think that Raptor Jesus has a lot to offer. His message is one of peace and love, and he is also okay with anyone getting rich and living well.
More on Raptor Jesus
http://www.ehow.com/how_2168478_worship-raptor-jesus.html
sandee
Dec 28 2007, 03:46 AM
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Dec 27 2007, 10:41 PM)

I think that Raptor Jesus has a lot to offer. His message is one of peace and love, and he is also okay with anyone getting rich and living well.
More on Raptor Jesus
http://www.ehow.com/how_2168478_worship-raptor-jesus.htmlAre you for real. I mean no offense, Just never seen this before, always a pleasure.
IronGhost
Dec 28 2007, 03:57 AM
QUOTE (sandee @ Dec 28 2007, 03:46 AM)

Are you for real. I mean no offense, Just never seen this before, always a pleasure.
What do you think of Raptor Jesus? The pleasure is all mine.
sandee
Dec 28 2007, 06:14 AM
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Dec 27 2007, 10:57 PM)

What do you think of Raptor Jesus? The pleasure is all mine.
Well i have to say I am not to crazy about it, But if its something you believe in then I respect your decision to. I thought it was really a joke no offense to you, I mean Its really mocking Jesus Right? I am not crazy about that at all, But to each his own. Always a pleasure.
Angel077
Dec 28 2007, 06:57 AM
Why serve G-d? Why not. It's a choice thats all, just a personal choice. Whats this about raptor Jesus anyways?
Oh man it says don't put the lord G-d to the test, be careful what you do. Be so careful.
Omnaka
Dec 28 2007, 06:58 AM
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Dec 27 2007, 07:00 AM)

To me that is not a price , but a choice, and My Father (GOD) does not stoploving his spirit children if they choose not to be in , or one with his and Mother's love, Making it Just a choice, which is a relative choice, what I might find offencive, another might Pay bib money to hear or see.
God will love them and Make sure they go where their hearts desire is after this life, even if it is not with him. Thats love unconditional.
I have this same love for my daughter, Son, and wife., and whole family actually
Sounds easy to forgive ones self, This is one of the hardest forgivenesses to learn IMO,
Love Omnaka
What he said
Love Omnaka
dlv
Dec 28 2007, 08:14 AM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:54 AM)

but I believe you can worship them out of love...
You are proposing two profound concepts: worship and love. First of all, my God doesn't need to be worshiped, or at least I do not worship It; however, I am not saying that people shouldn't worship their god(s). Second, when my God engulfed my being, I thought I knew what love was, but alas, there is a deeper meaning to the word, and it truly is beyond explanation. The closest I could come up with are invisible tears of joy..., and being lost in pure love beyond compare and only through the grace of God did I regain my separate consciousness again.QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 02:54 AM)

but not service.
Serving? Who am I to serve God??? I'm merely a grain of sand on a vast beach; nevertheless, a sand on the beach is better than none, and all through God's grace to appreciate Its creations.
Servant
Dec 28 2007, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Dec 28 2007, 03:41 AM)

I think that Raptor Jesus has a lot to offer. His message is one of peace and love, and he is also okay with anyone getting rich and living well.
More on Raptor Jesus
http://www.ehow.com/how_2168478_worship-raptor-jesus.htmlAs long as you don't love the world, you are fine. For those who put God first place in their life, He is going to give them streets of gold to walk on. Gold, money, and worldly goods are very irrelevant to God and the Bible says the earth itself is reserved for fire and will be re-created. To put all your life into this passing fading earth is a waste of time and effort. To put what it has, momentary pleasure and things, first place in your life, is a waste of your life. What will you take with you when you die? Even if you gained it all, it would do you no good.
My dad used to say, "you take two things with you when you die, the good things you did and the bad things you did." Only Jesus can make the bad things go away.
greggK
Dec 28 2007, 03:27 PM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 26 2007, 08:54 PM)

How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
Just a side note here I personally do not believe that we're supposed to serve any God/s but I believe you can worship them out of love but not service.
I believe in my God because my God is me. If you take your self and put it in somebody else or something else, you become that. Moses in the bible called the God Jehovah. Moses became Jehovah. Now, every religious person who practices the beliefs of the bible and calls on Jehovah will keep on calling Jehovah and Moses will just turn away because Jehovah is not Moses's name. The God that is in the bible is Moses.
Ozi
Dec 28 2007, 04:13 PM
i believe in my god based on the final testament the quran, the miracle with us today. My faith is based on testing my holy books claims to be divine, checking it from mistakes etc. My faith is based on logic, science, evidence etc. i follow the quran, because its provable to be divine.
Gregg.
If your god, then do something Godly.Thanks - Prove it
Darkwind
Dec 28 2007, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Servant @ Dec 28 2007, 02:48 PM)

As long as you don't love the world, you are fine. For those who put God first place in their life, He is going to give them streets of gold to walk on. Gold, money, and worldly goods are very irrelevant to God and the Bible says the earth itself is reserved for fire and will be re-created. To put all your life into this passing fading earth is a waste of time and effort. To put what it has, momentary pleasure and things, first place in your life, is a waste of your life. What will you take with you when you die? Even if you gained it all, it would do you no good.
My dad used to say, "you take two things with you when you die, the good things you did and the bad things you did." Only Jesus can make the bad things go away.
Gold, money, and power have little meaning to me. I would rather walk on the green grass of Earth. The Earth is my Mother. She is a Goddess and I honor her as such. When your book has turned to dust the Earth will still be here.
Omnaka
Dec 28 2007, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 28 2007, 09:23 PM)

Gold, money, and power have little meaning to me. I would rather walk on the green grass of Earth. The Earth is my Mother. She is a Goddess and I honor her as such. When your book has turned to dust the Earth will still be here.
When the Earth has turned to dust my spirit will still live.
Only the spirit is eternal, it's ok though because we'll make more.
So eat all ya like.
Love Omnaka
Darkwind
Dec 28 2007, 10:19 PM
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Dec 28 2007, 09:41 PM)

When the Earth has turned to dust my spirit will still live.
Only the spirit is eternal, it's ok though because we'll make more.
So eat all ya like.
Love Omnaka
So will mine maybe living on another planet. When the Earth turns to dust she will be reborn in another space and time and she will still be my Mother.
QUOTE
Hoof and horn, hoof and horn
All that dies shall be reborn
Corn and grain, corn and grain
All that falls shall rise again
http://www.soulrebels.com/beth/hoofhorn.html
Bill Hill
Dec 29 2007, 02:24 AM
Why is it you serve Your GodI serve my God because it makes me feel fulfilled and happy, also I ........
wait... sssshhhh... he might be listening... but really I serve him, because he makes me.. otherwise I'll be destroyed.
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Lt_Ripley
Dec 29 2007, 02:51 AM
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Dec 28 2007, 09:24 PM)

Why is it you serve Your GodI serve my God because it makes me feel fulfilled and happy, also I ........
wait... sssshhhh... he might be listening... but really I serve him, because he makes me.. otherwise I'll be destroyed.
. I thought you served because you were still under contract and God ordered a ham on rye.
Chillin
Dec 29 2007, 03:00 AM
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Dec 28 2007, 03:57 AM)

What do you think of Raptor Jesus? The pleasure is all mine.
What?
AtlantisRises
Dec 29 2007, 04:10 AM
mhm. I've always felt that any god that requires servitude, any god that demands worship is worthy of neither of those things. I feel that should god exist then the only difference between he/she/it/they and myself is that he is more powerful then I. Mere power is no reason for a being to be better then me. The idea that power alone makes a person better has been the premise of dictators for thousands of years.
So I would consider any god that might exist as my equal. Any god that could not recognise me as their equal would not be worthy of my acknowledgement letalone my worship.
chaoszerg
Dec 29 2007, 01:05 PM
Servant
Dec 29 2007, 03:10 PM
Okay....lets be honest....most of us worship and serve ourselves. Remember this saying..."looking out for number one?". However, there are many convictions in people's hearts which draw them to a greater cause. Who put them there?
I would like to make one more very good point. AS an exorcist, if I bring a demon up in someone, it will not answer me unless I tell it to in the name of Jesus. I think that makes Him King. And I will not do an exorcism on an unsaved person, why? The demon can kill them on exiting. That also make Jesus King as it is Him, His Spirit, the Holy Spirit, that protects you and delivers you during an exorcism.
He is my King and I am ever so glad!
IronGhost
Dec 29 2007, 03:23 PM
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Dec 29 2007, 02:24 AM)

Why is it you serve Your GodI serve my God because it makes me feel fulfilled and happy, also I ........
wait... sssshhhh... he might be listening... but really I serve him, because he makes me.. otherwise I'll be destroyed.
. I serve Raptor Jesus because He performed many miracles and wants my soul to float in a sea of bliss for all of eternity after I die. Praise Raptor Jesus!
Bill Hill
Dec 29 2007, 03:42 PM
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Dec 29 2007, 03:23 PM)

I serve Raptor Jesus because He performed many miracles and wants my soul to float in a sea of bliss for all of eternity after I die. Praise Raptor Jesus!
lol

hilarious... I noticed him at your website-I too shall worship raptor Jesus.
Mademoiselle
Dec 29 2007, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 04:54 AM)

How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
Just a side note here I personally do not believe that we're supposed to serve any God/s but I believe you can worship them out of love but not service.
That's a lot of questions !!
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