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Marcus
The more I look at it, the more it seems like religion seems to do more harm than good. All it seems to do is bring more conflict than good! It just divides people more than having us come together! I believe in a higher power however but sometimes I wonder if these different religions were created to confuse people and to keep us trapped. I mean so many disputes over which religion is right! Personally if there is a god, he would want us to realize that we're all equal and that having conflict over something senseless is wrong. I've been thinking about this, I've grown away from the religion aspect of things and just started focusing on my own spirituality. I believe in god but something doesn't seem right with how religion operates or the world operates for that matter.
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Marcus @ Dec 27 2007, 08:46 PM) *
The more I look at it, the more it seems like religion seems to do more harm than good. All it seems to do is bring more conflict than good! It just divides people more than having us come together! I believe in a higher power however but sometimes I wonder if these different religions were created to confuse people and to keep us trapped. I mean so many disputes over which religion is right! Personally if there is a god, he would want us to realize that we're all equal and that having conflict over something senseless is wrong. I've been thinking about this, I've grown away from the religion aspect of things and just started focusing on my own spirituality. I believe in god but something doesn't seem right with how religion operates or the world operates for that matter.


Yes, spirituality is within yourself.

Can't really say if the world would be better without religion. It's been here since man could question his existence.

But very many things can start wars besides religion,sadly
sandee
QUOTE (Marcus @ Dec 27 2007, 02:46 PM) *
The more I look at it, the more it seems like religion seems to do more harm than good. All it seems to do is bring more conflict than good! It just divides people more than having us come together! I believe in a higher power however but sometimes I wonder if these different religions were created to confuse people and to keep us trapped. I mean so many disputes over which religion is right! Personally if there is a god, he would want us to realize that we're all equal and that having conflict over something senseless is wrong. I've been thinking about this, I've grown away from the religion aspect of things and just started focusing on my own spirituality. I believe in god but something doesn't seem right with how religion operates or the world operates for that matter.

Well have you ever heard the phrase If its worth fighting for there must be something to it, Why do you think there are so may arguements on the subject. Its very controversial and I as a christian who does not doubt God in any way, Wish that all the world believed in God and there would never be any conficts and we would be at peace with everyone. If i am not mistaken thats Heaven we are talking about. Someone here said God created evil just as he created good, If thats true then we are not suposed to lve in harmoney quite yet. How would we know heaven to be so great if we lived in heaven on earth, Heaven wouldn't mean anything to us (christians).God wants everyone to love him just as he loves us, But he knew that would not happen because of satan and his fallen angels they now had a ''Catagory "" to fit in. I think either you believe in God or you don't, Thats two seprerate groups and I know many think thats wrong there are many many religions and they all have special meanings to who ever follows them, I am not saying you are wrong. I just in my opinioin seperate the world in those two groups That is easy nicley wrapped up you could say, But yet so simple. You will never get rid of religion, Even after God returns then it will be either God or the antichrist, That it will takeplace in my lifetime or yours I don't know no one does but it will happen, Always a pleasure.
evancj
In my own little personal life the world is so much better since I dumped all my religious baggage.

But that’s me and you are you so you must choose which road you will travel.

Good luck
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (evancj @ Dec 27 2007, 09:21 PM) *
In my own little personal life the world is so much better since I dumped all my religious baggage.

But that’s me and you are you so you must choose which road you will travel.

Good luck


I try to take the scenic route........have as much fun on the way as possible. Let's pull over & park now............... wub.gif

wink2.gif laugh.gif
norwood1026
I don’t believe that religion is the problem it’s man. Once again it seems that we’re talking about Christianity because of the OP. There are those people who still believe in a vengeful God those are people who go to far like I said before it’s man not religion.
InHuman
Having NO relegion wouldn't be for the best...

We would just need a faith that had no chance of splintering and promoted peace and non-jackkasssery.
Irish
Mankind only needs an excuse for war, and religion is just that, an excuse, the same as politics and philosophy.
Man will always find some excuse for his greed.
As long as there is greed and hatred there will always be war and death.

Irish
norwood1026
QUOTE (InHuman @ Dec 27 2007, 08:45 PM) *
Having NO relegion wouldn't be for the best...

We would just need a faith that had no chance of splintering and promoted peace and non-jackkasssery.



I dont think anyone NEEDS anything or anyone I think its all about choice no matter what IT is.
chaoszerg
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as a Christian who does not doubt God in any way, Wish that all the world believed in God and there would never be any conflicts and we would be at peace with everyone.


I will have to disagree with you on that. thumbsup.gif

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Someone here said God created evil just as he created good, If that's true then we are not supposed to live in harmony quite yet.



No Sandee it would mean God is not that loving if he has to create evil. wink2.gif

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God wants everyone to love him just as he loves us, But he knew that would not happen because of Satan and his fallen angels


Actually It was because God played favouritism with us over Satan which must have been really hurtful for Satan so who can blame the guy for not liking us very much. no.gif

Sorry if this offends you I hope it does not.

Omnaka
There will always be religions as long as there are people who think alike, Or believe alike. even not believing God exists is a religion, or belief (Athiest).

There has to be something to guage our beliefs on in order to make an educated way of life for ourselves, which imO, should never be dictated by a Group Claiming To know all when God is infinate,

Love Omnaka
norwood1026
QUOTE (Irish @ Dec 27 2007, 08:49 PM) *
Mankind only needs an excuse for war, and religion is just that, an excuse, the same as politics and philosophy.
Man will always find some excuse for his greed.
As long as there is greed and hatred there will always be war and death.
Irish



Your still blaming man for what he does in the name of religion, it's like having a kid listen to Ozzy & he gets it in his head that Ozzy's telling him to go out & kill. The kid had issues to start with but everyone else will blame Ozzy. no.gif
evancj
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Dec 27 2007, 01:29 PM) *
I try to take the scenic route........have as much fun on the way as possible. Let's pull over & park now............... wub.gif

wink2.gif laugh.gif


OK,

Wheres the next exit? wink2.gif laugh.gif
zandore
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Dec 27 2007, 04:01 PM) *
Your still blaming man for what he does in the name of religion, it's like having a kid listen to Ozzy & he gets it in his head that Ozzy's telling him to go out & kill. The kid had issues to start with but everyone else will blame Ozzy. no.gif

PSST Nor.....

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.


the Oz man is not a God figure teaching violence.
sumthingnice60
As already stated, religion is not the problem, it's man. There is also a nice quote by Voltaire about God:

"S'il n'existait pas Dieu, il faudrait l'inventer"

"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him"
sandee
QUOTE (chaoszerg @ Dec 27 2007, 03:56 PM) *
I will have to disagree with you on that. thumbsup.gif




No Sandee it would mean God is not that loving if he has to create evil. wink2.gif



Actually It was because God played favouritism with us over Satan which must have been really hurtful for Satan so who can blame the guy for not liking us very much. no.gif

Sorry if this offends you I hope it does not.


No offense taken. I don't understand your veiws but all the same I do respect them, Always a pleasure.
Zhna
QUOTE (Marcus @ Dec 27 2007, 08:46 PM) *
The more I look at it, the more it seems like religion seems to do more harm than good. All it seems to do is bring more conflict than good! It just divides people more than having us come together! I believe in a higher power however but sometimes I wonder if these different religions were created to confuse people and to keep us trapped. I mean so many disputes over which religion is right! Personally if there is a god, he would want us to realize that we're all equal and that having conflict over something senseless is wrong. I've been thinking about this, I've grown away from the religion aspect of things and just started focusing on my own spirituality. I believe in god but something doesn't seem right with how religion operates or the world operates for that matter.



And the world would be something like in Star Trek right?

Yes, can you imagine those gulag planets in man's future? Isn't that kind of scientific-marxist society just an unreal utopia? Since when was mankind without religion?

But the future religion of the Druj would be somekind of New Age styled mix of those Druj religions seen so far. Druj religions that has caused man so much suffering through ages. As Dr.McKoy said in ST5 "I don't believe in gods that makes man suffer". But the major problem is not those Druj religions but Drujs at themselfs. Religion of itself is not bad if it is about Light.
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