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Alex01
I've been amazed, here is the explanation:

Your astrological sign was determined by the position of constellations 2200 years ago. Over time, Earth has tilted on its axis changing these positions...and maybe even your astrological sign! Let the science of Astronomy explain the phenomenon of precession, which caused this shift. Click here to find out more.

Enter the date, time and place of your birth to find out your true astrological sign and see what the sky looked like when you were born.


Visit the following link to use this tool:

http://www.livescience.com/widgets/birthday.html


Here are my results:

QUOTE
Your true sign is...

You may have thought your sign is Scorpio, but your true sign is Libra.


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Papaver
If people have been following their horoscopes and have been impressed with the predictions and character traits described does this not cause a huge problem for the whole theory of astorology if your sign wasn't actually right yet you were impressed with the astrologer's accuracy?

If you are one of the people who's sign has been wrong all along, how does this affect how you feel about all of your past horoscope predictions and the validity of astrology?
Reptilian
I think the biggest thing about astrology is the belief factor.

If you strongly believe in something then you will make it your reality.

If I tell you that you're going to fall in love today then your brain might put a far greater emphasis on an encounter you have with someone later that day and you will start to believe that you're falling in love.

It's all in the mind.
greggK
It is all every bit a psychological game. A game, a game.
Alex01
QUOTE (Papaver @ Dec 28 2007, 02:07 PM) *
If people have been following their horoscopes and have been impressed with the predictions and character traits described does this not cause a huge problem for the whole theory of astorology if your sign wasn't actually right yet you were impressed with the astrologer's accuracy?

If you are one of the people who's sign has been wrong all along, how does this affect how you feel about all of your past horoscope predictions and the validity of astrology?


That's the enigma.
747400
QUOTE (Papaver @ Dec 28 2007, 01:07 PM) *
If people have been following their horoscopes and have been impressed with the predictions and character traits described does this not cause a huge problem for the whole theory of astorology if your sign wasn't actually right yet you were impressed with the astrologer's accuracy?

If you are one of the people who's sign has been wrong all along, how does this affect how you feel about all of your past horoscope predictions and the validity of astrology?

Or alternatively, if you've always looked on it with scepticism because you haven't thought that what it says about you according to what your sign should be seems right, maybe this might be why, so it might actually confirm that there might be something in it all along?

I got You may have thought your sign is Sagittarius, but your true sign is Libra.

so, hmm.gif .

Nice picture too.
ravergirl
im a leo to the max. i really don't think i could be anything else.
fylgja
I'm still a pisces, which is kind of obvious if you know me.
~Cheese~
I'm still aries!!
747400
On further experimentation, I find that if i put it to one day later, it says You may have thought your sign is Sagittarius, but your true sign is Scorpio., since I'm on (officially) the Scorpio/Sagittarius cusp, so it seems to be basically one sign earlier than the "official" one. I have to say, it seems to fit.
SunDogDayze
Mine is telling me I am still a Taurus, but i was born on the last day of the sign of Taurus and have always displayed wayyyy more traits of a gemini than taurus. I'm calling shenanigans on this one. original.gif
ravergirl
QUOTE (SunDogDayze @ Dec 28 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Mine is telling me I am still a Taurus, but i was born on the last day of the sign of Taurus and have always displayed wayyyy more traits of a gemini than taurus. I'm calling shenanigans on this one. original.gif

ahhhhhhhhahahahaha shenanigans...shenanigans are fun
ImNotHere
It says mine is Ophiuchus.. haven't heard of that one before grin2.gif
Lotus Flower
It says that although I thought I was Capricorn, I am really a Sagittarius. Not sure I go with that, Sagi's are supposed to be very social and outgoing, I like my privacy much of the time and my own space.

Interesting site though! I was sticking in other people's birthdates and times in my family laugh.gif
Teuta
You may have thought your sign is Cancer, but your true sign is Gemini.

Yea I think this might be wrong. I have way more personallity traits of a Cancer than a Gemini. Heck I have more traits of a Leo than a Gemini.
knowledge..w/o..power
QUOTE (Reptilian @ Dec 28 2007, 01:35 PM) *
I think the biggest thing about astrology is the belief factor.

If you strongly believe in something then you will make it your reality.

If I tell you that you're going to fall in love today then your brain might put a far greater emphasis on an encounter you have with someone later that day and you will start to believe that you're falling in love.

It's all in the mind.



i agree with this even though when i thought i was a libra, i figured myself to be the epitome of the sign. now im just a confused Virgo... wacko.gif
MoonPrincess
What I got:

Your true sign is...

You may have thought your sign is Virgo, but your true sign is Leo.

So I'm suppose to be Leo. Roar.
Talos
Ouch! - Literally!! - I went from being an archer to a outcast* snake-handler! ohmy.gif

*Wiki says that while Ophiuchus is considered a zodiacal constellation it didn't make the cut as an astrological sign. huh.gif
Story of my life... tongue.gif


Alex01
The problem is that the astrological signs were determined by the location of the constellation in the sky but 2200 years ago! ohmy.gif

And none of us here was born 2200 years ago! And so the astrological sign the astrolgers asing us is false. So in present time the constellations are in a new position, when you were born (hopefully not 2200 years ago) the constellations were in a diferent position than they were 2200 years ago, this meaning that your astroligical sign needs to me asinged depending on the new position of the constelllation on not their position 2200 years ago.

So, is astrolgy false?
Papaver
QUOTE (747400 @ Dec 28 2007, 04:01 PM) *
since I'm on (officially) the Scorpio/Sagittarius cusp, so it seems to be basically one sign earlier than the "official" one. I have to say, it seems to fit.



James Randi did an interesting and very simple experiment with horoscopes.

He handed out taylor made horoscopes to a class of students and asked them to rate the horoscopes and their personality predictions for accuracy on a scale of 1-5. The students were impressed with their readings with most scores at 4 or 5. They were then asked to pass the papers over their heads to the person behind them so they all had somebody elses reading.

They started to chuckle. Why? They were all identical.

It's the ambiguous language used and ease of applying different interpretations that makes astrology seem like it has something to it.

xCrimsonx
Your true sign is...

You may have thought your sign is Pisces, but your true sign is Aquarius.

WOW!

Reptilian
I jumped from Gemini to Taurus.

Papaver
The other thing I have noticed about horoscope readings is that they are almost entirely complimetary to the person reading it. They never call you an a**hole! They tell you about your strengths and mostly say nice things about you so even if you do not agree with a particular point it's still a nice thing to say about you, or a very minor criticism, so you don't mind or ignore it.

Also, if they are incorrect in a particular point people rationalise it away by saying things like "Well, they can't be right all the time!" and forget about the "misses".
747400
I think it's probably based on the precession of the equinoxes, isn't it. I think there may be something in it, I think I've seen this idea somewhere before.
MadMachine
QUOTE (Site)
You may have thought your sign is Sagittarius, but your true sign is Scorpio.

I'm suspicious though. When I keep my month, day, time and place of birth the same, but change the year drastically, it still says Scorpio.
Would it really say any different 2000+ years ago? Why? hmm.gif
Zhna
Didn't you just forgot something? What about the darkmatter? If the planets and stars in constellations have their physically unique charachters, then why not a spiritual one? What we see with our eyes and telescopes, terrestial and gas planets, stars like our Sun, Aldebaran and so on is not everything. If they have their physical differences as planets and stars in formations, then why not some differences based on their darkmatter? Each planet have their own amount of darkmatter that accompany them and every single zodiacal constellations too have their unique amount of their total mass of darkmatter. If we then include the darkmatter, then it really won't matter what those "modern" astronomers tell you, if the physics change a bit, their essence of darkmatter won't making astrology thus unchangeble. Is it really a question of believe or not? Those ignorant astronomers claim that they cannot proof the existence of darkmatter but it's still there. Is not that somekind of believe too?

Peace be with you!

From Midheaven Capricorn 9th
She-ra
Aquarius ALWAYS!
cowspwn
aww man i really always loved being a capricorn...

im going to cry myself to sleep tonight...
pentacle-witch
You may have thought your sign is Aries, but your true sign is Pisces.


You guy are confusing horoscopes with astrology reading which is just making a chart of the that person to figure out everything about your personality to who you really are on the inside. Horoscopes are just something that predict future events to a day to day from to month to month kinda thing using your sun sign. Astrology ain't a believe system it's a science kinda thing. You guys can look it up on the web.
espdracomth
Hey, I remember this it's based on vedic/sidereal astrology.

Papaver- I understand your sentiment, except I was on the other side. I was always told I was an aries but it never, fit and always wondered why it didn't. Everyone I asked said..well maybe it's the complimentary ones that overshadow the aries or maybe your not being the person you should be. Some even started to create stuff...well maybe your sheep instead of a ram..it's a more docile aries. So I kept looking for answers and after lots of research ended up finding out I am actually a pisces. So I was on the other side of the coin...had some blind faith in astrology being based on truth...just human error was to blame. Everything makes sense now as a pisces.


Death Sticky- The dates of each sign are only moved by about 23-25 days over those thousands of years. Which is why you won't notice a difference over a good change in years, it takes much longer.
Alex01
QUOTE (potato_ninja @ Jan 4 2008, 08:12 AM) *
You may have thought your sign is Aries, but your true sign is Pisces.


You guy are confusing horoscopes with astrology reading which is just making a chart of the that person to figure out everything about your personality to who you really are on the inside. Horoscopes are just something that predict future events to a day to day from to month to month kinda thing using your sun sign. Astrology ain't a believe system it's a science kinda thing. You guys can look it up on the web.


This has been debated hundreds of times and it has concluded that the science community does NOT consider astrology as science.
pentacle-witch
QUOTE (Alex01 @ Jan 4 2008, 01:34 AM) *
This has been debated hundreds of times and it has concluded that the science community does NOT consider astrology as science.



Yeah you can debate over it all you want. Meteorology came from Astrology. So how can one say that Meteorlogy is science if Astrology ain't.

Alex01
QUOTE (potato_ninja @ Jan 4 2008, 08:42 AM) *
Yeah you can debate over it all you want. Meteorology came from Astrology. So how can one say that Meteorlogy is science if Astrology ain't.


I do not know what link you are finding between Astrology and Meteorology, they both focus on totally diferent concepts. Meteorology uses the scientific method, astrology totally ignores it.

Astrology is a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters.

The origins of much of the astrological doctrine and method that would later develop in Asia, Europe, and the Middle East are found among the ancient Babylonians and their system of celestial omens that began to be compiled around the middle of the 2nd millennium BCE. This system of celestial omens later spread either directly or indirectly through the Babylonians and Assyrians to other areas such as India, China, and Greece where it merged with pre-existing indigenous forms of astrology.This Babylonian astrology came to Greece initially as early as the middle of the 4th century BCE, and then around the late 2nd or early 1st century BCE after the Alexandrian conquests, this Babylonian astrology was mixed with the Egyptian tradition of decanic astrology to create horoscopic astrology. This new form of astrology, which appears to have originated in Alexandrian Egypt, quickly spread across the ancient world into Europe, the Middle East and India.

Astrology is now regarded as unscientific both by scientific bodies and by individual scientists and has been labeled as a pseudoscience. Pseudoscience is any alleged body of knowledge, methodology, belief, or practice that is claimed to be scientific or made to appear scientific but does not adhere to the scientific method. (pseudo- false, pretending).


Meteorology is the interdisciplinary scientific study of the atmosphere that focuses on weather processes and forecasting. Meteorological phenomena are observable weather events which illuminate and are explained by the science of meteorology and the study of the atmosphere. Meteorology can be divided into distinct areas of emphasis depending on the temporal scope and spatial scope of interest. At one extreme of this scale is climatology.

Generally speaking, each science has its own unique sets of laboratory equipment. However, Meteorology is a science short on "lab" equipment and long or wide on field-mode observation equipment.
gaia227
It looks to me like in most cases, there are a few exceptions, the sign changes to the sign before them. Pisces to Aquarius, Libra to Virgo, Aries to Pisces, Gemini to Taurus, Scorpio to Libra. Just an observation.
pentacle-witch
I got that from a book called Astrology by Kim Farnell. You should read it so you can get a better understanding for Astrology.
Alex01
QUOTE (potato_ninja @ Jan 5 2008, 04:23 AM) *
I got that from a book called Astrology by Kim Farnell. You should read it so you can get a better understanding for Astrology.


Are you telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about? I'm sorry but I have studied astrology more than you have ever, I'm NOT going to talk about something I don't know about.
little bear
I was told I am a libra, not a scorpio. Seems to me I am all twelve, they all fit me in one way or another. And they are all wrong one way or another.
I think I AM THE ENIGMA. I do not fit in and this is good. I am Moksgm'ol
raven_1019
I can't believe this. My sign went from being a Scorpio to being a Libra. I feel sorry for those that get that C sign not capricorn or cancer but, that other c sign the one that no longer exists when it comes to horoscopes how are they supposed to deal with this new information? Oh well alot of people don't believe in astrology anyways. But, I do.
dest_titor1
I am a Capricorn? I am nothing like a Capricorn, neither am I an aquaris I am supposed to be. Signs and zodiacs have no real meaning after all...
Kaspar Hauser



Still a Pisces!...
Mad Manfred
QUOTE (~Cheese~ @ Dec 29 2007, 02:32 AM) *
I'm still aries!!


Now I'm Aries...crap.
Kazahel
" You may have thought your sign is Sagittarius, but your true sign is Ophiuchus. "

I wasnt surprised though.
AntariStarChild
Well here's mines

You may have thought your sign is Aries, but your true sign is Pisces.
Truffles
That sucks! I'm not what I thought I was lol. Im sticking to Chinese Astrology then! I'm a Tiger... MEeeooooow!
Lost Souls
QUOTE (Talos @ Dec 28 2007, 11:41 PM) *
Ouch! - Literally!! - I went from being an archer to a outcast* snake-handler! ohmy.gif

*Wiki says that while Ophiuchus is considered a zodiacal constellation it didn't make the cut as an astrological sign. huh.gif
Story of my life... tongue.gif

i feel your pain! im supose to be a sag, but i guess im nothing!!!!! explains much..
Lost Souls
It's that same feeling i got when my parents told me santa wasnt real!
Lost Souls
You may have thought your sign is Sagittarius, but your true sign is Ophiuchus.
whta the heck does an Ophiuchus even look like! not cool!! i like being a mutant!!!
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