http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/The_Sun_Is_Cold_II.htm
The temperature at its surface is said to be thousands of degrees, and the internal temperature is supposedly in the millions of degrees. However, it is unexplainable how superheated gases can act magnetically. For it is an elementary fact of physics that a substance loses its magnetism when heated! Since astronomers have definitely recorded magnetic effects upon the Sun, we have a direct conflict between the Sun's true nature and the suggested temperature. This conflict only indicates that the Sun is not the superheated mass of gases that scientists think it is, but rather a cool body as Herschel said it was.

There is much evidence to prove that the Sun is, indeed, a cool body. The process of determining the Sun's temperature is very complex and involves the radiation laws of physics. Fundamentally, here is how such temperatures are determined: the radiation of the body per square centimeter per second times the body's effective temperature quadrupled equals the rate of radiation quadrupled times the body's luminosity divided by its diameter squared. In solving for the Sun, ones comes up with an average of fifty-nine hundred absolute degrees. The mathematics involved is agreeable, but astronomers base their calculations on two assumptions:

First, they assume the Sun is a perfect radiating body; second, and most important, they assume that the Sun is radiating heat! This is because they believe that heat on Earth, as well as heat on other planetary bodies, comes directly from the Sun. People feel the heat when they stand in sunlight, so they say the Sun must be a burning mass radiating that heat. That is like saying a radio transmitter radiates sound waves because when we turn on our radios, we hear sound. But we know that such a transmitter radiates radio waves, and that these waves are turned into sound inside the radio!

In 1543, a great comet came closer to the Sun than any previous comet had and this was repeated by another comet in 1882. They actually entered the Sun's corona, which supposedly has a temperature of one million degrees absolute. These comets traveled over one million kilometers through this blazing corona and emerged unscathed with no change in velocity or direction. If the Sun is radiating heat, why didn't these comets instantly disintegrate on entering a tremendous heat of one million absolute degrees? Surely nothing could survive such a treatment!

inresting i must say, but there most be a argument for this point more rational than the first one atleast?

or dose it???

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mysteries/w...this/light.html
Waves of light do not travel. They reproduce each other from wave field to wave field of space. The planes of zero curvature, which bound all wave fields, act as mirrors to reflect light from one field into another. This sets up an appearance of light as traveling, which is pure illusion.

The sunlight we feel upon our bodies is not actual light from the sun. What actually is happening is that the sun is reproducing its own condition on the earth by extending the reproductions out through cold space into ever enlarging wave fields until those reproductions begin to converge again toward our center of gravity into ever smaller wave fields. The heat we feel and the light we see is dependent entirely upon the ability of the wave fields to reproduce the light and heat, and that ability is conditioned upon the amount of moisture in the atmosphere.

If there were no moisture in the atmosphere, our bodies would carbonize from the heat thus reproduced. One cannot consistently think of that heat as direct rays of the sun, for that same sunlight was intensely cold during its reproduced journey through the immensely expanded wave fields of space between the sun and earth.

The light and heat that appear to come from the star or sun have never left the star or sun.

That which man sees as light and feels as heat is the reproduced counterpart of the light and heat that is its cause.

The rate of vibration in a wave field depends upon its volume. Vibration in a wave field means the pulse of interchange between its compressed core and the space surrounding that core. A slow vibration in a large wave field would cool one's body, or even freeze it, while fast pulsing interchange in extremely small wave fields could burn one's body.

A lens that multiplies light and heat toward a focal point which sets paper on fire merely compresses larger wave fields into smaller ones. The rate of vibration increases for the same reason that the planets nearest the sun move much faster in their small orbits than those that are far away from the sun. Kepler's law covering the speeds of planets will apply to rates of vibration in wave fields as appropriately as with the movements in the solar system.

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/masonapollo.html
Heat is defined as the vibration or movement of molecules within matter. The faster the molecular motion the higher the temperature. The slower the molecular motion the colder the temperature. Absolute zero is that point where all molecular motion ceases. In order to have hot or cold molecules must be present.

A vacuum is a condition of nothingness where there are no molecules. Vacuums exist in degrees. Some scientists tell us that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum. Space is the closest thing to an absolute vacuum that is known to us. There are so few molecules present in most areas of what we know as "space" that any concept of "hot" or "cold" is impossible to measure. A vacuum is a perfect insulator. That is why a "Thermos" or vacuum bottle is used to store hot or cold liquids in order to maintain the temperature for the longest time possible without re-heating or re-cooling.

Radiation of all types will travel through a vacuum but will not affect the vacuum. Radiant heat from the sun travels through the vacuum of space but does not "warm" space. In fact the radiant heat of the sun has no affect whatsoever until it strikes matter. Molecular movement will increase in direct proportion to the radiant energy which is absorbed by matter. The time it takes to heat matter exposed to direct sunlight in space is determined by its color, its elemental properties, its distance from the sun, and its rate of absorption of radiant heat energy. Space is NOT hot. Space is NOT cold.

Objects which are heated cannot be cooled by space. In order for an object to cool it must first be removed from direct sunlight. Objects which are in the shadow of another object will eventually cool but not because space is "cold". Space is not cold. Hot and cold do not exist in the vacuum of space. Objects cool because the laws of motion dictate that the molecules of the object will slow down due to the resistance resulting from striking other molecules until eventually all motion will stop provided the object is sheltered from the direct and/or indirect radiation of the sun and that there is no other source of heat. Since the vacuum of space is the perfect insulator objects take a very long time to cool even when removed from all sources of heat, radiated or otherwise.

NASA insists the space suits the astronauts supposedly wore on the lunar surface were air conditioned. An air conditioner cannot, and will not work without a heat exchanger. A heat exchanger simply takes heat gathered in a medium such as freon from one place and transfers it to another place. This requires a medium of molecules which can absorb and transfer the heat such as an atmosphere or water. An air conditioner will not and cannot work in a vacuum. A space suit surrounded by a vacuum cannot transfer heat from the inside of the suit to any other place. The vacuum, remember, is a perfect insulator. A man would roast in his suit in such a circumstance.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/oldtimer/may_200...at_3_.htmAlmost 80 years ago, a schoolboy was being told that as heat cannot pass through a vacuum, the heat from the Sun must be transmitted by means of an all-pervading, invisible matter called "ether". The boy rejected this as too artificial a contrivance, and then realised that as Space is cold and dark, the stars, including the Sun, do not radiate heat or light as such. But as we have both heat and light, this meant that though the intensely powerful radiation from the Sun was not itself heat or light, it could create both when meeting opposition, with the changes dependent upon the density of that opposition. The Sun's planets, including the Earth, with its atmosphere, and the Moon, all individually present such opposition. This is why I have stated in an earlier Post that both heat and light are created here on Earth from the Sun's invisible radiation and that "sunlight" is therefore a fallacy.

Two little things that refute the idea that the sun does not put out light and it is our atmosphere: the Hubble space telescope, and all the other probes we've sent all around the solar system.

The hubble sees light from other stars, identical to our sun. Without being in an atmosphere.

Space probes look at the sun all the time, either directly or in reflection from other bodies in our star system.

I'm sorry, but this whole thread seems utterly silly.

there are many things we simply do not know and some 'common knowledge' is merely opinion turned fact because while nothing was proven to be right, not much was proven to be wrong either.

just as we are undecided if light is a wave or a particle

It's not as if we have to decide between it being one or the other, depending on the circumstances it can behave as either.

there are many things we simply do not know and some 'common knowledge' is merely opinion turned fact because while nothing was proven to be right, not much was proven to be wrong either.

It's topics like these that make me want to kill myself.

can't argue with you there

OMG. And maybe life is an illusion. Maybe the world is not real. Maybe you are a part of one of my dreams., or me a part of one of yours. None of these statements can be proven true or false.

The preponderance of Scientific data suggests that energy waves in the EM range interact with all physical objects. Just as Torgo said things in space can still see and take pictures. Seeing light has nothing to do with the air of a planet.

Also, Jupiter is the second most magnetic body in the solar system and guess what it is mainly composed of... hydrogen. Gravity crushes the hydrogen into a molten metallic form which seems to create a magnetic field when in motion. Thus the sun and jupiter, being the heaviest objects in the Solar system are also create the strongest magnetic fields. Magnetic anomolies on the sun (Sunspots and flares) are likely caused by unusual movement of the hydrogen below the surface of the sun.

Heat does radiate from objects in space, in the form of Infra-Red radiation. The space station for example needs huge radiator panels to get enough surface area to radiate away all the heat it collects.

First, they assume the Sun is a perfect radiating body

second, and most important, they assume that the Sun is radiating heat! This is because they believe that heat on Earth, as well as heat on other planetary bodies, comes directly from the Sun. People feel the heat when they stand in sunlight, so they say the Sun must be a burning mass radiating that heat.

Jupiter: yes that is cold body and therefore may contain magnetism and be magnetic, but the sun is hot and heat destroys magnetism.

Dan Dare

In its present state Jupiter emits about twice as much heat energy as it receives from the Sun. The loss of this heat -- residual energy left over from the planet's formation --- means that Jupiter is slowly but steadily cooling and losing energy. Temperatures in Jupiter's core, which were about 50,000 degrees Celsius © in the planet's hot, early phase, are now about 30,000 degrees C -- 100 times hotter than any terrestrial surface, but 500 times cooler than the temperature at the center of the Sun. Temperatures on Jupiter are now thought to range from 30,000 degrees C at the core to minus 120 degrees at the top of the cloud banks.

http://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/zorn/white.htm
White's suit held up well and the special helmet visor provided the necessary protection from the sun. White noted that, "The sun in space is not blinding but it's quite nice." (37) The entire space walk was progressing extremely well. It was clear that White was enjoying himself thoroughly as he exuberantly radioed, "I'm very thankful in having the experience to be first... This is fun!" (38)

Is the Sun Cold?

The stratosphere, the layer of atmosphere just above the one in which we live, contains a thin layer of ozone (O3). This layer wouldn't exist without the sun. Ozone is made of three atoms of oxygen. It's not a very stable molecule, but it takes a lot of power to create it. When UV light hits a molecule of oxygen (O2) of, it splits it into two atoms of oxygen (O). When one of these atoms comes into contact with a molecule of oxygen, they combine to make ozone. The process also works in reverse -- when UV light hits ozone, it splits it into a molecule of oxygen and an atom of oxygen.

This process is called the ozone-oxygen cycle, and it converts UV light into heat, preventing it from reaching the surface of the Earth. Without the sun, the Earth wouldn't have an ozone layer -- but without the sun, the Earth also wouldn't need it.

Well, I don'r know much about the sun but depending on what is burning, it may be cold. There is no doubt that if the sun is on fire, it is hot, but if it is the gases given of that burn then it may be cold like how you can spray your hand with deoderant and set it on fire without it getting overly hot or painful

This process is called the ozone-oxygen cycle, and it converts UV light into heat

It's topics like these that make me want to kill myself.

just as we are undecided if light is a wave or a particle

Which is where quantum physics comes into play.

Reference

For those of you who are bashing the topic, if you were taught your entire life that the sun was cold, and the topic was vice-versa, you'd be doing the same thing. Why not be a little open minded and think deeper about it. Nobody's been to the sun, nobody knows, everything is mere speculation. I say it's a good topic to make one think.

here's some more...

Does this mean we won't reach the Mars... settle Mars any time soon?????

Which is where quantum physics comes into play.

For those of you who are bashing the topic, if you were taught your entire life that the sun was cold, and the topic was vice-versa, you'd be doing the same thing. Why not be a little open minded and think deeper about it. Nobody's been to the sun, nobody knows, everything is mere speculation. I say it's a good topic to make one think.