QUOTE (mariposa1 @ Dec 31 2007, 10:05 PM)

Interesting cartoon. Not flattering by any means, of course, but I am more of a live and let live kind of person. I myself wouldn't share my man with anyone; it's one man or no one. I am finally old enough to realize that I can do without a live-in. I think if they want to have plural marriages, then, go ahead, cater to selfish men. It's really not my thing. The theory of their religion though, is presented as so twisted and bizarre that I don't think that it could be a true representation. If it is, and they worship this poor delusional guy, then I feel very sorry for them. They will have a big surprise when they cross over.
As for you Z, there is no time or circumstance where incest is acceptable or necessary. People are gifted with God given "choice". That doesn't mean we should throw caution to the wind and say all things are OK. Some things should be left alone. Like incest, human sacrifice and cannibalism. I would say sexist and racism, but it never does any good for people who aren't exactly sure of where they really stand firmly about anything. It's all about not really knowing what will happen in the future, and fearing it. Believing in something and being wrong. Losing faith too young and feeling betrayed ever after. Later covered by sarcasm, cynicism, unconcern and a belief that death is just the end and that's it. So now it's safe to do everything and anything right? At least these people, from what I have seen are not lawbreakers of other kinds as far as I know. Just misguided, at least I think so. That is only my opinion and counts only to me, I do understand that and am not attacking anybody; unless you are "playing" with a family member.
The Jews......what a problem. There seems to be trouble about the Jews wherever they go. It's true, they have always dealt well with money, even in ancient times. They are natural capitalists. Many still say they are responsible for the death of Jesus. Some say they don't like the attitude and they get all too much help, always falling back on the Holocaust and how much they have suffered to get it. Many grumble that because of all the Jewish people in this country, they will bring us down with the misfortunes of Israel and our continuous support of them. So why not hate them? Because, despite the fact that they keep to their own society (and that is no small portion of their problem), they are our human brothers, as are the black people, the native people of all nations, the Chinese, the Russians etc. Everyone has suffered, no one has cornered the market. They all have religious beliefs, they are all different. This country has forgotten that it was based on religious freedom for everyone. What happened to that?
Mariposa1
Nice with different religions that keeps the Drujs busy. What are bizarre? That they claim that Satan and Jesus are brothers? It is like to say that the Demiurg Yahweh is the father of Jesus while being the Devil himself. Or is it perhaps their five pointed stars, pentagrams that are turned upside down like in some satanic rituals? Well, I'm not a judge, may the Good Father take care. We gnostics too own that pentagram symbol, but among us it's top is pointed upward.
Incest is the very glorious thing ever. We gnostics are supporting father and daughter marriages because our Good Father is in eternal marriage with His beloved Daughter making those marriages to be the holiest of holy. Our beloved Prophet Zarathushtra did in fact marry his own daughters, like Pouruchishtra who was very exited about it in the Gathas. We support brother and sister marriages because of Zoe, the big sister gave live to Adam of light and is thus called the mother of all living by her brother husband. So with the big sister, be it whole or half, the man's marriage with her is a holier thing than if he was marriaged with his little sister or cousin. Should we then listen to men instead of God? Remember that we really aren't from this world at all, we are from above. None of our canonical works condemns it, be it the Avestan, New Testamental or Nag Hammadi scripts and other gnostic scripts. What does then incest have in common with lesbianism if not the goal of homozygotic society. Well, they are both for procreation! There ain't no better goal in life than that for most of the gnostics. Whole clones are even better than incest regardless of how close or not related they are. In fact, exogamy leeds to even more serious medical injury toward children than does incest or parthenogenesis. It only needs to be one of the parents with a dominant recessive gene to make it happen. Like the Druj Alfred C.Kinsey said "There are no medical ground or any other for not allowing it" and it's just a matter of time to being legalized anywere, everywere. So there are no really reason to be incestophobic fixed with all kind of superstitions(Which is unreality). It is accepted in France since Napoleon, it has always been accepted by tradition in Japan and even in Arkansas U.S what I have heard. When it comes to plural marriage, many gnostics would marry without hesitation 2 women if he is a man and a woman could marriage both a man and a woman like in that dear persian quote of mine. Others even if being tolerant, would not commit themselfs in such kind of marriage but choose to be monogamous instead and there are also those gnostics that are living in celibacy too like the apostle Paul. So it depends of which gnostic type they are of. Yes, we gnostics are more tolerant about certain thing than are the mainstream orthodox churches.
Of course! Everyone who is born gnostic are our brothers and sisters of light regardless of their skin color. I'm glad that you are that open minded regarding such of fact that skin color doesn't matter and about tolerating people of any denomination. Religious freedom is good but if some group boost up like the jews by claiming a whole country like Israel for themselfs, then what good does it do? Does mormons claim that the very state were they live is to be only theirs? We gnostics don't claim any country or state for our purpose but only some village here and there with some place of worship(Agiary) on some secret location of course. Muslims can be tolerant toward us gnostics like when the ottoman turks took over some of east european countries, the bogomiles were just recognized as millet just like any other religious group while the catholics almost exterminated our kind, the cathars from western europe.