This girl and boyfriend killed 6 members of her family on christmas eve. This is one of the reasons why I think we should have torture in our legal system. I hope both of these people get the death penalty. It's shocking!

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Does it give any 'reasons', not that anything could justify such a thing. Shocking.

the girl said she was being tired of being stepped on all the time or something like that and it had something to do with money. i don't care to read it again

By advocating the death of 2 people simply because they killed people makes you no better then them.

i never made any such claims about being better than anyone. The problem with this country is people bowing down to hippies and right to life groups. If there were torture allowed for certain crimes then you'd see a serious drop in violent crimes in this country. I never said i was better than them.

She is not a girl, she is 29. she was living for free on her parents property in a trailer, she said that the family was pushing her out of their lives, they didn't give her enough money.....doesn't that justify it? Crazy woman, her own niece and nephew? They should have the death penalty.

Yeah thats pretty chat.

Don't really see the point in torturing these people?

It is horrible and disgusting, but nothing would really be accomplished by torturing these people.
The death penalty isn't stopping people from killing each other in the U.S. The fear of torture as punishment won't bring violent crime rates down either.

Although these two deserve to be tortured, statistically, it doesn't work as a deterent for would be criminals. I'd personally like to see them rot in jail for the rest of their lives, and hopefully they live in a state where the death penalty is in effect.

The artical i read said her brother owed her money and mom and dad wern,t supporting her attemts to get paid what he owed her! So of course she must have thought, they all must die now! What a crazy "B" And the boyfriend appologised to the little ones just before he shot them! What a man!

If I was a leader I could drop the crime rates within 10 years by 90% and relieve the stress of the prison system by letting non violent offenders out early and keeping the violent ones in.

I guess you don't know what the inside of an over cramped gulag is like if you advocate torture.

What you propose would not drop crime rates statistically, some things I agree should be legal and some illegal but there needs to be a balance. You say torture drops crime and I say law reform and proper rehabilitation for many criminals. Some people should stay locked up as they are far to dangerous, this being said there are ways to drop crime and increasing penalties and making more laws is not the logical answer here that corresponds with the root of most violent crime committed.

Also by advocating death for these 2 you then cannot be outraged at what they did. Murder is murder is it not whether it's state sanctioned or not am I wrong? Of course I'm not wrong taking a life is taking a life the only difference between these 2 and you is that they could do it w/o a reason and you feel justified and see it as revenge.

I think it’s pretty gutless to take on an unarmed human or animal with a gun. Anyone who thinks otherwise should really consider themselves nothing more than a coward.

I find myself saying this more and more often...what the hell is wrong with some people??????? She was upset that she had to pay rent, and didn't get some money repaid to her, so she and her goon killed 6 people? Unreal.

Agreed.

They should be killed.

I submit that the opposite would happen, based on history and human nature.

That is absolutely horrible, though. Some things are just beyond my ability to understand when it comes to how violent people can be.

oh now i understand

The death penalty doesn't work in the U.S. because of a bunch of sob-sisters who have gummed up the process. If those on death row were executed within six months of sentence, you'd see a marked change in attitude among criminals.
Where is the fear in the death sentence when it's rarely imposed? You can sit in a cell for years, perhaps decades, earning a college degree and filing endless appeals.
If someone is clearly guilty of murder, beyond all doubt, they should pay with their life. Execution by firing squad is preferred, as it is quick, painless and foolproof.
I have no sympathy for murderers, and that includes drug manfacturers and dealers whose poisons kill countless people down the line. Anyone who makes or distributes meth, heroin or any cocaine-based drug should be executed too.
"The death penalty doesn't work."
Oh yeah? Let's show a few thousand criminals the business end of .30-30 rifles in the hands of a firing squad and let's see how quickly the homicide rate in America takes a dive.
The death penalty in America is not as effective as it could be. It's a paper tiger. Give it some teeth and see how much attention is garners from would-be murderers.

That statement is a contradiction, as is the death penalty for murder. You might find psychopaths wanting to become paid, professional torturers. Or were you thinking of Barry Manilow at full blast? I've heard some shopping centres play Manilow to try getting rid of teenage gangs.




Why is it then that the murder rate in the US has actually declined as a proportion of the population over the last 20 years, with, I believe, fewer executions? I think the answer has been more pro-active policing, not some line 'em up posturing after murders are committed.

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I've heard some shopping centres play Manilow to try getting rid of teenage gangs.

OMG I bet ya they came up with the idea while at the shopping mall.

Even that is still no reason to go off and kill people.
What a spoilt little ***** killing someone coz they gotta pay rent. What a hinderance to society.
Who ever was taking her rent money should have been sending her and that money to a shrink.

"Athiest God"

I wish I had a hard shell like yours...................... but how dare anyone take someone else's right to live. Thats selfish and greedy.
..........and yes I speak for myself, I am better than that.

Yes I'd grusomely dismember those that destroyed anyone in my family. Now that is a good reason.

Maybe not, but I would sleep a lot better knowing those sick b******* got what was coming to them. I'm all for the death penalty and whatever else is needed to punish people who kill, especially those who kill children.

Our government here in the U.S. is just too nice. If you commit a vicious, horrible crime,and it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you did in fact kill the victim, then you should be taken out and shot right on the spot. Heck with waiting 10, 20, 30 years just to put them to sleep.

What about aiming to prevent the next swathe of horrible, vicious crimes, or are you content to join a repeating cycle of official killing, that doesn't always bother to get beyond a shadow of a doubt? Vengeance is momentary, when you realise that those crimes keep happening. Better to keep hammering on the question of why, than to be sated with a momentary solution.

I think the people who do these things are so twisted that the threat of a horrible punishment wouldn't even register. Like, this woman who killed her family... what did she think would happen next? She'd redecorate the trailer and go on with her life? Logic won't reach her.

Is it my imagination or are there more twisted freaks out there than there used to be? Maybe I'm just reacting with more intensity than I used to.

The latest horror story in Georgia made me so sick I didn't watch the news for a few days. A woman goes hiking with her dog. The dog begins to play with another dog. She falls into step beside the owner of the other dog and they chat as the animals play. The guy turns on her and overpowers her. He tortures her for three days then bashes her over the head and kills her. But he isn't done yet. He finishes by decapitating the body. It's so disgusting that a part of me is still blocking on it, the way I'd block on a friend's death. ("No... that didn't happen. That couldn't happen. No.")

How can people be that twisted?

that's shocking! how could you kill 6 members of your own family on christmas eve! or anytime. were things that bad that she could just not move away and start over? makes me wonder

Cry me a river, what an ignorant statement.