Satan is not honest he is a deciever. The Great Deciever. All that he stands for is the separation of man and God through sin, which must be a choice. He operates with lures because he has no power granted to physically harm, and he wraps it in beauty and light and sparkle and glitz and glam.

i have asked that question so many times i lost count, Does the devil have any powers over us or can he manipulate you into believing what he is trying to give you is a good thing, and then you accept it and you are screwed, I don't really know that anyone has the answers, The bible tells us he will tryand decieve us. Whats your opinion if you have one other than what you posted , Which is Good simple streight to the point and true? You tell me, Always a pleasure, Oh by the way is that your pic on your avitar?

You mean the catholic church ?

Well he does and he doesn't. He cannot physically hurt us otherwise he would strike us all down at a moment of sin before salvation and after the age of accountablity. (God would have to give him permission to harm us) But he can orchestrate all kinds of spiritual problems, he can influence doubt, fear, pride,jealousy, all that is necessary is one little foothold to grab onto and start from there. Satan fights hardest against those doing the most for God, missionaries, leaders, prayer warriors. Faith testing trials throughout the bible, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abendego, Jonah, Job, Jesus. But thats not deception that is spiritual warfare.....his tricks are....drugs (they feel good) sex (feels good) money ( buys stuff that feels good) power ( feels good). The fallen Angel Lucifer was the angel of Light and beauty, that gave him all he needed to be able to cloak harmful things in such wonderful packages. Aids came from showing love through sex. Overdoses came from things that make you feel so so good. and on and on

oh and sandee..it is not me in my avatar..i wish..lol

There is a member here that always says evil is of the light, and I just say to myself Well I don't know where she got that from and now it does make since, We are affracted to shiny sparkly things, Thanks Always a pleasure

Why would she testify for God and then turn around and call the church, the devils den?

The beauty of religious mania is that it has the power to explain everything. Once God (or Satan) is accepted as the first cause of everything which happens in the mortal world, nothing is left to chance...logic can be happily tossed out the window.


Author: Stephen King

Great quote. except it isn't really. When I came to Christ for salvation I immediately entered the mission field. i was 13. Once you are sure God is real you can stay safe behind ally lines but once you start actually working for God you find out how real his enemies are too. it can be scary and it can open up a whole world of questions. because until you know something for sure you can have some doubt. i can't have doubt but man i have questions.

Like I said, you are well meaning, but you do not have a clue about Judaism and the origins of Christianity. You wave the bible around, oblivious of the fact that what I am saying IS IN THE BIBLE! And I am talking about the ORIGINAL Bible, that we are rediscovering through archaeology. There is NO Lucifer in the real Bible. And Fiery Flying Serpents, or Drakons as they were translated to from Hebrew to Greek, are the highest heavely creatures. And that's why Jesus said to be "wise and serpents". This isn't my opinion, this is digging up 2000 year old scriptures that have not been changed by later Popes to make them comfortable for Western Europeans. The reason you haven't heard about a lot of this before is becasue your Church didn't want you to, and much of what I'm posting is my own research, but it is all based on the Bible and other ancient documents. The Kings James Bible is full of dragons, but later Bibles have changed many to whales, which is ridiculous when they are out in the middle of the desert. And they have nothing to do with walnut brained dinosaurs. In Psalms it says DRAGONS sing praises to God. So if you can't deal with that, maybe you better take up Buddism.... wait they have dragons too. Every ancient religion did, and do you know why? It is because near every religion has some some common core beliefs and dragons are part of them whether you like it or not. The creator does not say only one believe system is right. In the Dead Sea Scrolls they found the oldest examples of parts of the Bible, and it says that the real creator God El, assigned one of his "sons" to every human tribe, and that is why there are different religions. Yahweh was the son in charge of the Hebrews, just as Quetzalcoatl was for the Aztecs. And they are both dragons, like all the rest. So is the Creator a dragon? No. They are some kind of "wise" creature as Jesus said, that the creator of the Univers may have devloped from some ancient reptile millions of years previously to watch over mankind. There are millions of other planets, so that's the best the Creator could do, and that's why our "tribal Gods" aren't always perfect. Sometimes they behave like "dragons". And now you know why.

um there was no original bible. there were older scrolls. but i think it would be wise to also remember that there were a lot of different belief systems in that time. Even Solomon took his pleasure in worshipping more than just one God. so what if those were his collections of scrolls and they got all muddled together and now we have this "original bible." Im not saying that they were not dragon like entities...more likely they were because the ones they appeared to were asked not to run away and what is so scary about a person with wings. However Satan is very real and I believe that the arch angel beings has more than one form.

Oh Yes,I am one of those bible wavers, And really proud of it. I have nothing to be ashamed of I have every intention of waving my bible around as long as I can without offending anyone. You say you have information from the dead sea scrolls, how can you prove them to be written and Authenic. I know darkwind says you know your stuff and He does respect you, as I respect darkwind and value his opinion I know you are to be trusted too. I don't know that I agree But, I don't hav too. It is your belief and research and I do respect that, Always a pleasure

The answer to that one is simple, biblically speaking, although I appreciate other posters have different views on; lucifer, satan, and the serpent.

In OUR delivered message ie the closest thing we have to a communication from god relevant to our society, rather than one delivered to zoroastrians or babylonians or neanderthal man, the bible, working back from revelation to genesis, tells a story.

Lucifer was the most beaautiful and charismatic of angels. All he lacked was the full creative power of god. He had all the powers of an angel, including the ability to travel anywhere in the universe, change shape to any form, communicate in any language and the knowledge to perform what we see as miracles, eg manipulate matter and energy

. Because he was given free will like all of god's created sentient creatures, there was always a possibility he could do evil. God knew this , but not that it was a certainty.( THere is no such thing as predestination,particularly /not even for angels) After all, Lucifer had displayed only good. He was trusted and revered (which explains why one third of the angels joined his revolt.

However he grew jealous of god's leadership, perhaps honestly believing he could do a better job. He planned the revolt in secret. Part of the aim was to get as many worlds to rebel against god's governance as he could at one time.(however only one of the worlds in heaven accepted his version of the truth(ours). This may have been because we were a young sentience, and still not granted the knowledge of good and evil.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, there was nothing to prevent lucifer from visiting earth, and the garden of Eden. Possibly he and other angels did it regularly. He was able to transform into the shape of one of the inhabitants of eden (perhaps so that eve would not erecognise that he was an angel, or perhaps trying to keep his rebellion from god as long as possible.)

Satan urged adam and eve to eat of the tree of knowledge, knowing the consequences. In doing so, he declared war on god and the rest of the bible is a history of the consequences of that war, particularly its effects on the nature of humanity, and the changed nature of our relationship with our creator.

God created both good and evil....how can their be good without evil?..and trust me goods winning...

God knew , Lucifer was going to do this , he knew adam would eat of the tree of Knowledge, It was all in the plan, This is how father got his kids a learnin, sittin in heaven where all is good and nothing to compare that love to was to sentance them to Blob, Nothing! Nothing chanced nothing gained, this is how the eternal spirit gets enriched, or learns and our Universe moves steadily foward and better.

Think abot it , In the beginning Lucifer was playing his Part in the education of man, The same way Jesus did, the same way Abraham , and king david did, The same way Jimmy hendrix did and the same way you and I do.

We actually had a talk with Father before our spirit was incarnate, Then Father put us in a body which fit the knowledge we neded to learn.

I know Every time I say Father Thy will be done, I have a big lesson comming.
This was the code word for I'm ready for more, before I was sent down.

Michael, Father and Mother's first born spirit Was Adam, He did a good Job of providing the rest of the bros and sisters with bodies to inhabit and gain the experience they could not get sitting in Heaven, our eternal spirit Home.

Love Omnaka

Yes we need Both , thats why it's a good thing Not all spirits learn at the same speed.

Before I ever Talked to Father , My Mantra was Good wil prevail, Out with the bad Keep the good.

I like your thinking.

Love Omnaka

I believe God created both for purpose. so I don't believe in 'evil'. bad things happen ? sure it's life and about the experience - bad things are part of that experience. That doesn't mean I have to like it or understand it humanly , but in the bigger picture I understand.

Have to beg to disagree with you there.

God never planned for sin, and cosequent hardship to come to humanity. We were meant to stay in eden slowly being educated, learning new knowledge skills and crafts, before being released out to manage the whole world. If we had taken that route we would have gained, eventually, the knowledge of good and evil as god planned.
Our disobedience, and our premature gaining of this knowledge, separated us from god. On all the other planets in heaven sentient beings have developed in the way god planned. God knew the potential for disobedience existed, but it was impossible for him to be sure it would occur because he granted us, and Lucifer, free will. Therefore predestination of any human decision is impossible. What god COULD see were the multiple potentialities which flowed from either decision adam and eve made. Satan also could see this, in that he knew the consequences of either probability.

Look, if god had wanted us to learn this way he could have just given the fruit to adam and eve. He didn't need to dream up some convoluted strategy with lucifer as his patsy.

Also, if god had wanted us to learn through sin, why did he go to such extremes to wipe sin out after the fall, up to and nearly including, the extermination of the human race?

We cannot get back by ourselves to our original state, but during our life on earth, god expects us to do the best we can in this direction. That is why his laws still apply, to show us the goals to work towards so that we can master the consequences of our aquired knowledge of good and evil. The skills, faith, and discipline required in this task are what we will require to inherit our place in the new earth, otherwise god is just putting the old "man" back into the new earth. We must show we are ready to be given new improved/restored bodies and take our place in the new earth, which will be as eden was before the fall.

Lucifer was a cheribum. He was an angel with four legs and four wings. Yes, he was a dragon. He is referred to as serpent and dragon in the bible. Serpent, because in the garden of eden, he got his legs taken away! He fell in love with himself and wanted to be God. He isn't a person or human looking creature. God created him. He was an angel created with perfect wisdom and strength until he fell. Jesus already took his power away at the cross, and locked up the fallen angels and spoiled his kingdom. So................ as far as satan goes? I will answer in the words of John G. Lake...."I've no use for a whipped fellow."

If thats the case then God can't not see into the furture like some people say which again means he's not perfect.

Every one of you who acknowledge a "Lucifer", only demonstrate you know nothing of the religion practiced by Jesus. If there actually was a fallen angel named Lucifer in the Old Testament, don't you think the the Jews would know about it? Don't you think even Jesus or the Gospel writers would have mentioned Lucifer if he was real?

The Jews never recognized Lucifer because they knew how to read Hebrew, unlike the Roman Christians who mistranslated the Old Testament and decided passages about the very human enemies of Israel, the Prince of Tyre, and the King of Babylon should be about Sata, and here again, the serpent in the Garden is never named, as Satan is not a name. And if you actually read the bible you would see that these Satans in every case, work for God. He sends a "satan" to test and challenge people. Even the so-called new Testament "temptation" of Jesus is a test from God.

You don't have to take my word for this or use my sources. Just google the words "lucifer" and "mistranslation" together, and dozens of sites, some by devout Christians will tell you that THERE IS NO LUCIFER IN THE BIBLE! It is a typographical error. Billions of Christians have feared a TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR! And you worship the Seraph-Dragon Yahweh, instead of the Creator God El, acknowledged by Jesus. He even told the Pharisees they were not worshipping His Father (the Creator), but the "Murderer from the Beginning". They certainly were not worshipping Satan, becasue there is no satan in Judaism, it is just the word for an agent of God. They were worshipping Yahweh, the killer of millions as plainly stated in the bible, and who is described as a winged, fire breathing creature, that was given virgin sacrifices and hoarded gold. He even made the Israelites worship his winged serpent idol, or be killed by his flying serpent friends or relatives. Don't blame me, it's all in the Bible.

Define "evil"

When I refer to the real bible, or original Bible, I refer to the HOLY TORAH, the first five books, which even Jesus acknowledged. But we know from archaeological discoveries like the dead Sea Scrolls that the Bible has been changed since the time of Jesus. In the original Deuteronomy, it acknowledged that the Creator God, gave each human culture a "watcher" who taught and protced them, and Yahweh was the one assigned to the Hebrews.

So of course the Jews believed in other "Gods". The Bible CONFIRMS there were many Gods, but the Hebrews were ordered to only worship their tribal God Yahweh.

Solomon did honor at least one other God, who was the female diety Asheroth, who was Yahweh's dragon girlfriend. Their romance is also confirmed in Cannanite beliefs, though they called the watcher dragon of the Hebrews Yaw. And during this time when Hebrews were at their greatest power, Yahwehs idol of the fiery flying serpent, which He ordered Moses to make, was worshipped. It was only after another king destroyed the idol and displeased Yahweh that Jerusalem was destoryed and the people sold into slavery.

The "Bible" has way too many contradictions for me to take it literally. I agree with d' chronicler that Lucifer was a man-made creation in scaring the "herd" into following the church (I beleive this creation was made during the middle ages).

I understand that Yahweh is the name that appears for God in the OT (YHWH or YHVH) and Jesus spoke of the Father in the NT. But where do you get Yahweh as being the "Seraph-Dragon" the "killer?" I don't know ancient Arabic, Hebrew, Sumerian nor Greek so please help me on where in scripture this appears.

Sounds like someone had too much to drink last night.

God is not a dragon. God made man in his image and we are not dragons.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...

Satan is referred to as Lucifer in the Bible. The fall is also mentioned in Luke 10 and Rev 12

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer , son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Satan is a specific name of a specific angel/demon.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. (Not some random demon

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Not quite true. Perhaps god is not perfect, but more likely, because he exists across time and space, he can see all possibilities and potentialities. However, because he has given his creations free will, he normally does not interfere in the outcomes of their actions. Thus there are many potential threads in the tapestry of personal and universal existence, but they are not fixed until they occur in linear time. Thus god could see many futures, branching from a scenario where satan successfully tempted eve, and others where he did not, butt he outcome was not fixed until it happened. That is the nature of existence within a linear timeline.

One personal example of this is where god could see coming the very real likelihood that my wife and I could die in a bushfire which killed 9 other people and destroyed over 100 homes. Through a series of prophetic dreams,and eventually miraculous direct intervention, god allowed us to escape that fire by minutes, although we lost everything we owne,d except our car, cat a few papers, and the clothes we were wearing. As we drove out to escape the fire I committed our future into gods hands.he gave a direct reply that we would be safe, and we were.

Other people who escaped, in similar cicumstances, also spoke of a clear physical presence, guiding and directing them, and giving the the knowledge that they would be safe.

In the same way, god has given me direct warning of coming events on a number of occasions over the years, which have directly saved my life when I would otherwise have died. In other words he has manipulated the linear time line to one, more favourable outcome, and away from less favourable outcomes, which were also real possibilities. Not only did he do this but he mostly let me know in advance that his was going to occur.

Thus I was watching for the slightest symptoms of impending heart problems and got to a doctor with what was basically an undetectable blocked artery. Only elevated enzyme levels and an angio gram, once I was in hospital, showed that I was a few months away from dropping dead.

Instead of this outcome, my heart is now so good that I do not have to go back to the hospital, for further checks, for another 5 years

Then he should of known that Satan was going turn against him.

I agree Even evil works for Goodness and God unbeknownst to Evil,

Lucifer is real though he is a beloved son of Father (God) and a loved brother of Ours and the Universe, wether he is written about in scripture or not does not matter.

The next time any will see him is on the last day when he helps you to show your heart, helping you to decide which world you will go next. He rides in the apocalypse under the name of Death. And yes all the riders work for God and the good God race.
Love Omnaka

Sorry Omnaka, but your stand on Lucifer destroys your credibility on everything. It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE among serious Biblical Scholars that Lucifer is a later Christian invention. He is NOT in the Bible at all! That verse is about the kings of Babylon! There are dozens of websites and books that explain this, I have just posted the first one I found.


http://zonerunner.blogspot.com/2005/02/som...ut-lucifer.html

The first mention of Lucifer in a Christian context was within the Book of Isaiah. Now, obviously, Lucifer is a Latin word. The etymology is in the Latin word for light: lux. How is it, then, that a Latin word managed to appear in a Hebrew text?

It didn't. When being translated from Hebrew, St Jerome and his peers changed the Hebrew word "Heylel" to Lucifer. This was a natural move against Paganism; which was fairly popular at the time.

Here is the King James Version passage of Isaiah 14:12.

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Now, it is known that Lucifer is a mistranslation of heylel. So what was the original meaning?

The original reference was to a Babylonian King. This King was known as Nebuchadnezzar. When the context of the verse is appreciated, it makes perfect sense. Even Jesus is referred to as an Star of evening, so it doesn't seem logical to ascribe this incorrectly to Lucifer. Therefore, Lucifer has no place in the Bible and is not a Christian figure at all.

Lucifer, in the Roman pantheon, is the father of Ceyx. He is the son of Aurora, whom according to legend spawned many deities. Lucifer literally means "light bearer," there is no evil or dark side to his nature. He is the illumination of the soul, and guide of the Mysteries. He is similar to the Celtic God, Bel.'

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Sounds like someone had too much to drink last night.

God is not a dragon. God made man in his image and we are not dragons.

DC: I agree, the Creator God is not a dragon. But Yahweh, Quetzalcoatl, Quin Li, Kuklakan, Enki, Enlil, and dozens of others ARE what we would call dragons - Ancient Sentient reprtiles that the creator assigned to every human culture, and Yahweh was the watcher dragon of the Hebrews. If you studied the Bible in more detail, and the older Cannanite religion you will find that the High God is named El and Yahweh is his favorite "son" but described as a dragon by the Cannites and also by the hebrews as I have already explained.l

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...

DC: Right, in El's likeness, not Yahweh's. Yahweh has wings and breaths fire in the Bible, and his idol was a fiery flying serpent (dragon). Read the opening of Genesis, there is the El creation tah conforms with science, and the mythic Yahweh creation added later to flatter the dragon.

The fall of Lucifer is mentioned in Luke 10 and Rev 12


Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer , son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

DC: See my post above. Lucifer doesn't exist. It is a mistranslation
Satan is a specific name of a specific angel/demon.

DC: Wrong, the word means an adversary. There are probably several "Satans" in the bible, and in every case they work for God they are not opponents of God.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. (Not some random demon

DC: Look up the word, it is not a name. It means "an aversary". In this case it is the prosecutor in the heavenly court. Look it up in the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

DC [color="#FF0000"][/color]This verse is based on the Book of Enoch, thrown out by both the Jews and the Christians. Revelation was almost thrown out for the same reasons.

Thats Ok bro I did not get what i have shared with you from any book, I got it from speaking with God Father and Mother Of Lucifer, Jesus, My, Your and every spirit on and in this Universe, My credibility lies in Heaven with The Holy host and God, your unbelief of what I share does not affect Who Iam to God , who lucifer is to God or who bro Jesus is to God. Jesus does not ride with Us.

He may have No place in the bible to you but he Has a place in Heaven and Father's (God's) Love.

Your unbelief can not change this, but it is understandable.

My original name of my spirit is not Omnaka either, it is only what Father and Mother call me in this life.

In spirit Iam Father and Mother's first born spirit son Michael. I ride the white stalion in the apocalypse, He was give me in my first incarnation in the garden.

There will be a Fifth riding with us on that day, he is my son, Zachariah, To see how an apocalypse goes, He rides a dapple grey mare.
He my first spirit son, He will be my Adam on my world.
It is also understandable if you do not believe this either , but does not Change who Iam to God or The Universe or you for that matter.


This life is only for a blink in the eternal scheme of things, We will see each other after this world, I may even bring a dragon.

It's not all in that book, and I subscribe to no religion, even though I was born a jew.
Gotta go fix a bed, and Play bsome drums and welcome the new year,

God bless, you know the rest

Love Omnaka

I agree, I am truly sorry that you and your family lost your home and all your sentimental treasures, It is a very hard experience to have to go through, Always a pleasure

Shaytan is the enemy no doubt. However he is very wise and has a great deal of knowledge. He uses this knowledge to influence mankind.

Satan is not any one Being, as All know we all can do great harm and or Evil, Satan has a change of Heart on a second by second Basis with a new one willing to take the old ones place as soon as the old one has a Heart twards good.

Yo state he is very wise, so are you.

Love Omnaka

I have seen other sources that refer to Seraphim ("fiery serpents") as reptilian, flying creatures (which sounds a lot like dragons). As Saten was supposed to be one of if not the highest angels, and the Seraphim were the highest order of angels, than saten probably always looked like a "great red dragon", and may well be the serpent referred to in Genesis. Other Serephim, such as Michael, would also have serpentine features, however. So: to be "as wise as serpents" is to have the wisdom of the highest order of angels (the ones that were supposed to be in the direct presence of God), rather than an endorsement of Satan.

Just a bit off topic here but I think it's interesting that in the OT Satan was Gods patsy & in the NT in Gods adversary. Maybe because in the NT the Christians wanted to use him as a figurehead of sorts for those people who didn't wish to follow in the new religion & a scare tactic for people who worshiped the old Gods.

I have found a dragon... see?

Yea he gets a bad rap, kinda like The judas for mankind, Funny he is one of father's favorits.
Those who have done bad and made it back to love are Father's chosen, those who preach from a platform made of words , are the self righteous spoken about in the same scripture they preach from.

Sorry I'm talkin about Lucifer not Satan.

Love Omnaka

Satan was one of God's closest angels until he defied God and got thrown out of heaven. So sure satan was by God's side before he gathered other angels and decided to overthrow God, Of course they are advosaries in the end,Always a pleasure

Sorry not conviencing. I do not claim to know everything and I don't but I just don't see it,Always a pleasure

Once loved by God, always loved by God. Satan is in everything, call it the other vside of you, or the oposit of everything, It was created by father for a reason.

To help us grow.

Love omnaka

I think you are still confusing Satan with Lucifer, lucifer is Still one of Gods favorite sons, and satan resides as the other side Of humanity.

The two are seperate , even though Lucifer's transgressions are somehow related to the transgressions of The individual today, Kinda like a scape goat for the unrepentant and unaccountable.
Love Omnaka

I must be losing my touch Norwood. I thought my post explained why not even god can know the results of a decision which relies on free will. He could see the possibilities and the potentialities and the consequences, but until the instant any decision is made it is not fixed in the time line, or the fabric of time, if you prefer that analogy. Until the instant any thing happens, the probabilities/potentialities for alternate outcomes exist.

Then I don't see how he can be perfect. Besides all of this is just theory. We really don't know.

This is because Christianity is a dualistic religion based on Zoroastrianism who had an evil dragon and his angels fighting against a good god, his son and angels written over 500 years before the time of Jesus. The Book of Revelation is stolen from Zoroastrian mythology with only the names of the God and Dragon being changed.

The early Christian NEEDED a replacement for the Ahriman Dragon in their own scriptures, so they completely invented Lucifer as we have seen, and turned any number of Gods assistants call "satans", who probably were "dragons" just like Yahweh" into a single powerful enemy of the Hebrew God.

It is no wonder the Jews thought this new religion based on pagan persian beliefs was such a blasphemy. The Creator of the univers can have no opponents. This is pagan voodoo nonsense, and it is no wonder Jesus did not return in the generation of his disciples as the Bible actually says.

According to the Bible, the events in revelation were supposed to have happended almost 2000 years ago. They didn't happend becasue Revelation is simply the retelling of a Persian fairy tale with the bad dragon's name changed from Ahriman to "Satan", which is not even a proper name!

Although few Christians realize this, Michael is one of the heavenly creatures known as the seraphim and although later Christianized Greeks and Romans turned them into swan winged humanoids based on thier old pagan gods, archaeology and professional Hebrew linguists prove this word means a fiery flying serpent, and the ancient Jews themselves translated the word to dragons so we KNOW this is really what the word meant in the time of Jesus. And this is also why many ancient Christian scriptures speak of dragons in heaven, though this has all been edited out today, an most Christians today are kept totally ignorant of these things. So much so that even people who believe they are angels don't know enough about the "real" Christian theology to be very convincing. This is why Islam is "fake" as well, becasue M. imitated the same misunderstandings of the 6th century Christians, like the invention of the Lucifer character.

Funny that if you were once "Michael" you didn't notice you had a scaly tail.

Michael is an archangel.

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Spirits are not limited by your imagination.

Its why drawing pics of one was a no no.
God Our Father can Apear as anything,

After this life , Iam still Michael. Father, and Mother's (God's) first born son, Your oldest bro.
Once Michael allways Michael.

Love Omnaka

Good Imagination, Looks like chipped paint to me.

Love Omnaka

what is your source for this statement? because firstly Lucifer was an angel not a son. Angels are creations of servitude