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tali
Looked around a few forums and this one seems pretty active and has mainly uk content.Eager with first question which has been bugging me.
Do we accept that p/geist activity centres mainly on pubescent girls? - so why arn't there loads of p/giest activity at girls schools for example? -surely a girls school should be the ultimate hotspot for p/giests ?
SS79
Good question .

I did a quick search on google and there are loads of reports of poltergeist activty at girls schools . so i dont think its unheard of . and is definitly to be expected . though im not sure of the statistics and how they match up too mixed sex schools or boys schools even . but i'll do a bit more digging and let you know what i come up with . original.gif
doktorhook
QUOTE (tali @ Dec 30 2007, 06:57 PM) *
Looked around a few forums and this one seems pretty active and has mainly uk content.Eager with first question which has been bugging me.
Do we accept that p/geist activity centres mainly on pubescent girls? - so why arn't there loads of p/giest activity at girls schools for example? -surely a girls school should be the ultimate hotspot for p/giests ?


I think sex itself has very little to do with it in all honesty, I think somewhere between 10 & 14 there is a window of opportunity to develop the ability of psychokinesis. I think the reason why girls seem to be more prone though is because they tend to do indoor stuff more than boys which means their in a close environment to see any effects, & girls generally are cooped up in the house more than boys are thus causing more angst & pent up emotion. I was one of the few boys who were cooped up a little bit more than other guys & about that age (10-14), I PURPOSEFULLY caused a gas can to move without touching it. It actually frightened me when it happened & it instantly stopped & being a guy & it happened to me, I don't think it's a "pubescent girl" phenomena. I do think there is a window of opportunity to develop it & I think it's fairly narrow.
Syntax
agreed...

the misconception that poltergeist activity center's around the property comes from the fact that 90% of our interaction with our children occurs at home.

It also explains why people who move into the home after the original occupants flee in terror, don't report anything suspicious. The phenomenon is physiological and revolves around humans, not houses.

Numerous and expensive testing by leading universities during the 70's proved this.

In the popular culture of today, this research is just simply 'passed over' because it is not exciting enough or doesn't relate to what we as individuals believe about the phenomenon.

dancin'hamster
Hi there,


There is no evidence to suggest that poltergeist activity centres only on young pubescent girls. Indeed, many cases are reported in which there are no young children at all.
In my experience it seems that most alleged activity occurs in an unhappy home; the last case I researched involved a family with two boys, and the eldest did no get along with his father. The father blamed the boy for all the activity, which in turn made it much worse. The mother was also viciously slapped, and I believe it was the sheer anger and frustration of the oldest boy who felt is mother should intervene and tell his father to leave him alone. The activity continued when both boys were away from the home, and even when they were overseas. The parents suffered all kinds of frightening phenomena when lone in the house.
A very very unhappy and mixed up house-hold.....sad hmm.gif

Grab a copy of The Poltergeist Phenomenon by John & Anne Spencer thumbsup.gif
Mabon
Hello Tali and welcome to the forum.

Here's my two cents for what it's worth.

The activity that surrounds young women at the age of puberty isn't the only time or situation that poltergeist activity can occur. It is one but it seems to be any situation where extreme changes are taking place, stage of life. But even if you look at Dancin'hamsters example it seemed to start when the eldest boy was coming into his authority as an adult. It seems that young women are at a stage of development where they are expected to have responsibility but no authority. Stop acting like a child but not having adult privileges. I agree with Dancin' that it has to do with an unhappy state of emotional being, doesn't have to mean that the home life is bad nor does it rule it out either, but pent up feelings. Depending on the person and how angry/upset they are create an externalized form of their inner conflict.

Regards,
Mabon.
tali
Thanks for replies.Firstly about girls been cooped up inside house and lacking independance- well in asian countries the girls have it 100 times worse inside 24/7 -yet no poltergiest activity there(in fact logically there should be a lot more)
As a teenager i myself spent great majority of time inside my house alone on many occasions - but nowt happened.I think the theories proposed and angry /unhappy households if they do contribute to poltergiest activity it must be a very tiny % - because for every one of those circumstances there must be hundred thousands in same situ completely unaffected -imho
cpjason
In order to have a poltergeist you generally need a few other things.......

The haunted place should be on land that has high deposits of limestone/quartz, as well as other geologic events such as GMF activity (GeoMagnetic Field). Geomagnetic fields are DC fields that are produced naturally by the Earth, and are often concentrated in areas where poltergeist activity is present. Limestone, and quartz gives off a feel of being watched as does changes in the GMF. During this time, mainly children, and teens who have lost a loved one may start to mourn the person or thing so much that it actually does cause 'activity'. The person is supposedly creating the 'poltergeist' activity. There are a lot of different kinds of spirits, and the type that reacts to limestone and quarts is poltergeist.

It is my guess that it effects young girls and younger kids in general because they are less able to handle the grieving process than adults. Adults minds are more developed and they can cope with death much better than children. It is a child's extreme mental state that causes the activity. Just a guess, and only my opinion but it is a educated one. It also explains why poltergeists generally go away after a few months. The cause of the poltergeist goes away as the grieving process or whatever other high emotional state subsides, and when that happens the haunting stops or at least gets quiet. A poltergeist haunting can become a normal residual haunting and stay that way for many years. It may never become a poltergeist again and stay a residual haunting, or it could return many times over a long period. It can also go away totally leaving no residual or intelligent haunting behind.

If a grieving child isn't the cause then it is my belief that the poltergeist is more attracted to children because they are more afraid of it than adults. Adults can be scared too, but once again a childs undeveloped mind can't handle it and their distressed mental state causes the activity to center on them.
Raptor
Young teenagers are desperate to either try and fit in or to have something special which sets them above the rest of their peers. Pretending that you have a paranormal gift is a perfect excuse to get some attention; whether they know it or not. Not to mention that people are extremely influential at this age, and may convince themselves they're telling the truth.

This fits in with that Hamster said about unhappy homes, they're screaming out for attention
veledran
Dr. Roll was a big pusher on this, however many of the researchers have found this to not be accurate as incidents happen when there are no teenagers at the site or when no one else is around.
doktorhook
The topic has changed slightly to cases where there is no one present so I'll add my comments on that first. Well in all honesty, if theres no one around, you don't know if there is any phenomena or not unless you se tup cameras & I have seen supposed poltergeist activity under such conditions but the thing is no one can say if A. those videos are real & B. evn if they are, if the person doing the filming is doing it remotely, there is still a large chance that's it's being caused by someone else through trickery. So poltergeist activity without human presence is suspect at best. I realise at the same time though, that ANY poltergeist activity,PK phenomena, etc. is suspect. I'de swear in a court of law that I've seen genuine PK so I know it exists but I also understand that it's also probably very rare. It's unfornunate that folks have to make up stories so as to muddy the truth & the prospect of actually discovering the exact mechanism.

As for the chinese not reporting activity, the chinese as a general rule are very conservative & private so I wouldn't expect much of anything like that to come out of there. I also agree with Raptor in teenagers making up stories but that doesn't mean if a story isn't heard that it shouldn't be checked out.
tali
The limestone/quartz theory is an intresting one which i will look into further
So a (potentially) good source of poltergiest activity would need
a council house, on limestone/quartz deposits with an unhappy family with a teenage girl suffering domestic isolation
Watchful
Ghost Hunters brought this up in one episode, when they were investigating a house, where the teenage daughter of a woman who passed away had come to live. It was also concluded that limestone was also present on the property.

A couple of these posts, I believe are very right on the mark. I remember moving into our currant home, and experiencing various things. Now, I don't experience it as much, and I do have a teenage daughter. The thing is, she is very outdoorsy person, and spends a lot of time at a farm with horses. This gives her a lot of happiness, and the rest of us are pretty much at ease with our own situations. So, I wonder if our example just follows the others posts here.

tali
QUOTE (Watchful @ Jan 1 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Ghost Hunters brought this up in one episode, when they were investigating a house, where the teenage daughter of a woman who passed away had come to live. It was also concluded that limestone was also present on the property.

A couple of these posts, I believe are very right on the mark. I remember moving into our currant home, and experiencing various things. Now, I don't experience it as much, and I do have a teenage daughter. The thing is, she is very outdoorsy person, and spends a lot of time at a farm with horses. This gives her a lot of happiness, and the rest of us are pretty much at ease with our own situations. So, I wonder if our example just follows the others posts here.

I remember moving into a previous home and i had a bad vibe about it(didn't like the layout) .Heard scratching on celing- turned out to be a squirrel, night time creaks and groans was previously unused c/heating.On one occasion i got fed up of my kids continually going back and forth to toilet (now with young kids i'm used to this) - but on this occasion- i really had enough and stormed into their room to ask why they kept going to toilet- to my surprise they were fast asleep.But despite my vibes about house- and being there aloneon many occasions - nowt happened
Michelle55
Hey all I'm new here. I am not sure about Poltergiest and why they show up. I had one when I was around 10 or 11. He just showed up one day tapping on the walls and floor. We (faimly and friends) started to communicate with him. He would answer questions using his taps. He could throw things, bang on things and shake things. We'd ask him to move things like chairs but he didn't. I don't think he wanted to be told what to do. Anyway, you could call him the freindly ghost in a way because he never hurt us and after a little bit of fear, he never scared us. He's scare newbies who came to see if he was real but not us. One day he just up and left. It was about 8 months of him visiting. He would be there even if we (the kids) were not. So I wonder if it is pre-teens who may attract them. Not the pree-teens doing the activity. I was not angry or anything and neither were my sisters. Oh and he said he died in that house. So he said he was once a living human.
Michelle
Knight of the Twilight
QUOTE (tali @ Dec 30 2007, 06:57 PM) *
Looked around a few forums and this one seems pretty active and has mainly uk content.Eager with first question which has been bugging me.
Do we accept that p/geist activity centres mainly on pubescent girls? - so why arn't there loads of p/giest activity at girls schools for example? -surely a girls school should be the ultimate hotspot for p/giests ?


It would probably depend on the gender of the p/geist. If it is male, then yes. Female, no.
Schnaffler
QUOTE
It would probably depend on the gender of the p/geist. If it is male, then yes. Female, no.


You're assuming here that poltergeists have a gender. Hasn't it been recorded in some cases that poltergeists have spoken with both male and female voices?
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