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Endlessly
I dont know if this has been done beofore.

Did Jesus really want is followers to try and convert EVERY ONE and judge people for who they are?.Honestly I dont know much about christianity and all but thats how I see it.
Omnaka
QUOTE (Endlessly @ Dec 31 2007, 05:41 AM) *
I dont know if this has been done beofore.

Did Jesus really want is followers to try and convert EVERY ONE and judge people for who they are?.Honestly I dont know much about christianity and all but thats how I see it.


No, but then again, not everyone wants to or is supposed to Go to Jesus' world.

Should we judge those who judge the Judges, Or judge those who try to convert Others?

I'm guilty also, But I'm tryin Its not love if its forced, I gotta remind myself. And forgive those who try and force their beliefs on me.

Love Omnaka




Zareste
Yes pretty much, in fact he told them to be ready to kill people if need be.

Oh, and those pretty benevolent angels you hear about? They always had to tell people "do not be afraid" because most angels of that time conducted massive manslaughter like it was a joke
Omnaka
QUOTE (Zareste @ Dec 31 2007, 06:10 AM) *
Yes pretty much, in fact he told them to be ready to kill people if need be.

Oh, and those pretty benevolent angels you hear about? They always had to tell people "do not be afraid" because most angels of that time conducted massive manslaughter like it was a joke

Hi Zarest, If you don't mind me asking what religion do you subscribe?

Just curious.

Love omnaka
cheza
Hi Endlessly, I have a "bloom where you're planted" opinion on conversion, but Jesus did say to go out and baptize others in the name of the father,the son and the holy spirit. As far as judging goes...I believe that only the father will judge, no human person has the right to judge another,but judging is part of a humans nature and part of how we discern things in our lives. We are all judged harshly at times and we have all judged others harshly as well. Its just part of the human condition


sandee
QUOTE (Endlessly @ Dec 31 2007, 12:41 AM) *
I dont know if this has been done beofore.

Did Jesus really want is followers to try and convert EVERY ONE and judge people for who they are?.Honestly I dont know much about christianity and all but thats how I see it.

Jesus died on the cross for our sins, He told everyone that would listen about God and taught us that if you believe in God all is possible. He did not have cars and computers to spread the word, It wasn't easy when he spread the word of God, Yet That did not stop him. So what makes you think I don't have the athority of Jesus to say, sit and tell you about Jesus right now. I don't have to face persacution or hang on the cross to do it, But YES Jesus wants every single person to know about God and that through him you will have ever lasting life. I give you an example,( I will try) If you as a person who believed in something so srongly that you were willing to endure days of tourture and ridicule and ultimatly death, Would you want anyone who believed in you or your cause to spread the word about you and what it was that you believed in so much that You were willing to be persacuted and put to death the most painful way you could imagineto tell people about you and how brave you were to die such a painful death for something you believed in enough to die for. I think it would make Jesus very proud and honored and indeed VERY HAPPY to see that he, Gods son inspired such devotion and worthiness that we believe in him, and through him we seek everlasting life. Yes Jesus is very proud of Gods children who spend their time to tell anyboby that will listen, How truly Great he is and how great His father is. I don't think Jesus and his father God get the tinest bit upset that I or anyone tells about Gods love for us all. God loves all his children and does not want to see them suffer the pain that god must feel when were in pain has to be unbearable, you see because he loves us sooo much, that we can feel his love, Through God and Jesus Christ. I dare you to find just ONE(1) single person who is a christian that will tell you, that they don't enjoy telling everyone that will listen about God and Jesus Christ, his son. I look forward to it, As I also know others do too. The incredible feeling you get when you tell someone about God and his son, is so addicting. To be able to express Gods love through your love for God is ..... I don't even know the most effective way to describe it, And then when you meet someone who says hey I want that, I want to be part of God' army, Be part of a love that can not be described no matter how hard you try. Always a pleasure, Jesus wants everyone to know and feel God' s Love. Its the ultimate gift.
sandee
QUOTE (Zareste @ Dec 31 2007, 01:10 AM) *
Yes pretty much, in fact he told them to be ready to kill people if need be.

Oh, and those pretty benevolent angels you hear about? They always had to tell people "do not be afraid" because most angels of that time conducted massive manslaughter like it was a joke

I don't have a clue where you got our information, But it is wrong wrong wrong. Jesus died on the cross because God so LOVED the world that he gave his only son to die so we shall have everlasting life. Now I am a pretty smart, intelligent person, But I have never met you before now so I have no idea how intelligent you are, So I will ask you because for the life of me I can not think of one reason why Jesus would tell us of such a loving forgiving God, and teach us of that great love and about God and even die for that trust in God and his word, And then teach us Or tell us to KIll in His honor. I don't , can't and will never buy that. The angels you speak of are Gods children, Gods army, They love and serve God, On heaven and earth they gave their lives to Christ so that they would dwell in God's kingdom,FOREVER. They do God's work, They do not do no harm ever, They are doing God's will and God does not commit manslaughter, massive or otherwise. God made you and if he decides it is your time then God is never wrong, But God does not punish!! I have had several occasions where I have been helped, Guided and saved by Angels. They are a wonderful way to spread God's word, And God can teach you, support you, help you, show you, comfort you, and touch you through angels. Angels are very important and have important jobs to fufill, I can't tnink of a more important boss or job Than God and his work, Always a pleasure.
Serpentine
QUOTE (Endlessly @ Dec 31 2007, 05:41 AM) *
I dont know if this has been done beofore.

Did Jesus really want is followers to try and convert EVERY ONE and judge people for who they are?.Honestly I dont know much about christianity and all but thats how I see it.



This can never be known and despite what people around say and despite what you read ultimately you can never know why people do and say the things they say and do and ultimately you can never know why people did and said the things they said and did.
Belle.
QUOTE (Endlessly @ Dec 31 2007, 05:41 AM) *
I dont know if this has been done beofore.

Did Jesus really want is followers to try and convert EVERY ONE and judge people for who they are?.Honestly I dont know much about christianity and all but thats how I see it.


Hmm I am also interested in what Jesus wanted. I wonder if he would have preferred for people to follow his way of living in the sense of his kindness and good deeds, even if they didn't think he was the son of God. Or live a wicked life but repent and accept him as the son of god.

Ha maybe that can be one of my New Years resolutions - to read the good book!
eight bits
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Did Jesus really want is followers to try and convert EVERY ONE and judge people for who they are?

That is a great question. Supposedly, Jesus gave the Great Commission (searchable term).

On the other hand, Acts seems to depict two early Jesus-movement views: a Jerusalem "church" which appears to have favored remaining a Jewish sect, versus Paul, apostle-come-lately, who preached especially to the Gentiles.

Enter the Romans, who more-or-less wiped Jerusalem away in 70 CE. In a stroke, the church outside Jerusalem was effectively the only church there was, and Paul was its prophet. The Great Commission was then [a] invented or [b] remembered, whichever you choose to believe.
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