http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...ca-wetland.html

Sorry if this has been posted before of if it is in the wrong topic.

btw...Happy New Year Everyone!

Interesting... though I think this should be posted in natural world section since its about natural history

That was great read. *Waiting for Atlantis theorists to start making conclusions*

I heard there was a lot of anger from the scientific community when the Russians started drilling into the Lake Vostok earlier this year. Something about contaminating the lake and not waiting for western scientists to investigate.

Imagine if something was released into out own environment, some ancient virus or worse... scary thought.

Let's just friggin agree that life is everywhere and quit acting shocked every time we find it

This has major implications for studies of Europa and other planetoids that might have oceans under ice. I'll be interested to see where this leads.

Great testing ground for their new generation rovers.
However if exploration of Europa is next (or any other ice planet) they may have to drill like the Russians did.

I'm not surprised! They are going to find so much stuff under the ice; that we won't believe. But it will be there.

an amazing discovery but this won't surprise me life could be found in almost any environment.

Seriously, I whole heartedly agree. It's so frustrating when you see these articles and scientists are saying, "This is whole new ground, whole new territory!" Only because you stochy scientists don't listen to your own code of ethics and hypothesis. We should be open minded to every possibility of life.

Now for Harte and others like him, I am not saying that we have to accept every possibility as being true, but accepting them for what they are: Possibilities. Haven't we discovered a crazy amount of "new" species? Haven't we seen that now there are planets which could be similar to earth?

Will we ever grow up and say, "We are not the center of the universe" ?!

"Code of ethics?"

Are you saying that this is not "new ground?"

From the article:


Are you really implying that these scientists were wrong to make these statements? That they should have known about these sub-glacial lakes and rivers?


You mean like this scientist, also quoted from the article:



This is true, but I don't see the point.

We wouldn't know about these species, nor the recently found planets, if we hadn't discovered them.
If "Big Science" in all it's stodgyness refused to believe in the "possibility" of their existence, that why were they discovered? Do you think they were all discovered by nonscientist amatuers or by accident or something?


Not until we ALL decide to stop fantasizing and adopt the scientific method (you know, the method that proved to us that we weren't the center of the universe!)
And I mean that in a good way.

Harte

On a Cryptozoological note, I cannot for the life of me remember where I heard it, but apparentally theres a lake in Antarctica or somthing thats a beautiful thriving ecosystem etc, etc, and also contains an alleged monster, which is suprisingly not said to be plesiosaur like, but instead like a mosasaur. How one could survive in Antarctica is beyond me.

Anyone knows Oronteus Finnaeus ? ... try to look in internet

Wow! Antartica really impresses me, I mean, all that Ice and coldness, and yet there's still life there. I mean, apart from the animals there, there are plants too, such as lichens and there is even a desert! Complete with mummifies seals

mmm I watch waii too many docos lol

Hm?

nice post! thats cool

let us first of all - 'reach' europa and drill some cores and then come to conclusions!

this is similar to scientists finding ocean streams in the deepest points in the oceans and of course rightfuly gushing ' its a whole new world out there'!
the scientists do have a right to gush like that..because before they did discover the lakes and rivers under the ice, no one knew about it and it is a new world for them since they are learning new things about the microorganisms and other life surviving uder the ice.