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danielost
during the 20th century. the California gray whale disappeared for about 50 years.


there are two types of gray whales. Japanese gray whale and California gray whale. they have different markings, thus you are able to tell them apart.


the California gray whale disappeared for 50 years give or take. then reappeared, they are not Japanese grays because the markings on the new California grays were the markings of the California grays not the Japanese grays.


my question is where did the California's disappear to .


sixxx
There were probably a few left, I think it would be very hard to find all the whales in the waters and know how many there are.
danielost
QUOTE (si*** @ Dec 31 2007, 09:01 AM) *
There were probably a few left, I think it would be very hard to find all the whales in the waters and know how many there are.



i don't think 50 years would be long enough for that
Myles
I think there were just a small amount left.
Incorrigible1
It's one of two things. They were either eaten by dragons, or they were hiding with the pixies/gnomes.
The Valcian
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Dec 31 2007, 11:40 AM) *
It's one of two things. They were either eaten by dragons, or they were hiding with the pixies/gnomes.


Well said!
danielost
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Dec 31 2007, 11:40 AM) *
It's one of two things. They were either eaten by dragons, or they were hiding with the pixies/gnomes.



i am not making this up. the Cali. gray was over hunted by man and disappeared for about 50 years. when they came back they came back in the numbers that they had before they disappeared and were over hunted.
Myles
They were hunted almost to extinction and then after being protected by laws, they increased their numbers. May have been different migration routes as well.
Juan2k7nyc
I agree with Myles.......they might have change there migratory route to avoid death............
danielost
i agree they did change routes. but they didn't go asia. gray whales hug the shore.
unsere
This is according to the American Cetacean Society:

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Status: At one time there were three Gray whale populations: a north Atlantic population, now extinct, possibly the victims of over-hunting; a Korean or western north Pacific stock now very depleted, also possibly from over-hunting; and the eastern north Pacific population, the largest surviving population. Hunted to the edge of extinction in the 1850's after the discovery of the calving lagoons, and again in the early 1900's with the introduction of floating factories, the Gray whale was given partial protection in 1937 and full protection in 1947 by the International Whaling Commission (IWC). Since that time the eastern north Pacific Gray whale population has made a remarkable recovery and now numbers between 19,000 and 23,000, probably close to their original population size.


http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/graywhl.htm

The "California" Gray whales never completely disappeared. They were extremely endangered due to over-hunting and have since rebounded.

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Though two populations, a north-west Pacific or Asian and north-east Pacific or American, are recognized, they are not deemed distinct enough to warrant subspecific status.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_whale

In other words, there are not two distinct sub-species of Gray whale.

There is no evidence to support the idea that the variety found off the coasts of California ever vanished completely, nor is there evidence of a global migration taking place. Conversation was solely responsible for the preservation of the species.
danielost
There is no evidence to support the idea that the variety found off the coasts of California ever vanished completely, nor is there evidence of a global migration taking place. Conversation was solely responsible for the preservation of the species.
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then the atlas i read publish shortly after the time period. before world war 2 didn't know what it was talking about.
unsere
QUOTE (danielost @ Dec 31 2007, 04:06 PM) *
There is no evidence to support the idea that the variety found off the coasts of California ever vanished completely, nor is there evidence of a global migration taking place. Conversation was solely responsible for the preservation of the species.
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then the atlas i read publish shortly after the time period. before world war 2 didn't know what it was talking about.


It could have been outdated or incomplete information. The ACS is a well known and respected organization that is devoted to the study of whales, so I defer to them as a source of information.
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