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joeycastaneda56
QUOTE (tralalala @ Jan 3 2008, 05:59 AM) *
Why would I care what you had to say about the Catholic church? I'm no longer Catholic, which you would have known had you actually read my post thumbsup.gif Anything you had to say, I'm sure I have heard before. Who memorizes their post numbers? that's just bizzarre.
............If you have no Religion or no Spirituality Religion and Beliefs why are you on this web page.........................
tralalala
QUOTE (joeycastaneda56 @ Jan 3 2008, 12:23 AM) *
............If you have no Religion or no Spirituality Religion and Beliefs why are you on this web page.........................



My understanding is that this is a forum to discuss spiritual beliefs and ideas, not to jack off to the bible. My belief is that god doesn't exist, and it's just as valid as the belief that he does.


Anyways, this is getting ridiculously off topic. False prophets anyone?
Lotus Flower
QUOTE (sandee @ Dec 31 2007, 06:46 PM) *
The bible and Gods word tells us there will be many false prophets, And that we will be decieved by them. How will we know if it is a falsehood? God says we will believe in them, So why would God then tell us they are false? There will be many lost to God because of the pastors and preachers, God tells us this as well, What about all the followers that believed in the pastor and God, Are they going to be held accountable for their own souls, The bible says the pastor who leads the congregration astray will be held accountable for all of their souls, How can this be. We as individuals are responsible for our own soul, Our own salvation, So are both held accountable? The mark of the beast is a symbol that you will never be taken into heaven, Your soul is lost forever. How do we know what the mark will be, What if we get the mark by being fooled or tricked, Are we still held accountable. I know there are signs and things we can look up in the Bible, But they are so very vague it could be any number of things today, And tomarrow there will be dozens more it could be, How will we know?, Always a pleasure rolleyes.gif

If you listen to your heart and listen very carefully, you will have a better chance of knowing when, what you are hearing, rings true to you.

Don't be fooled by some of those that preach, just because they may wear dog-collars or appear to be in positions of authority does not mean that they know everything there is to know, even though they may say they DO know.

I do believe that those that lead others astray will have to answer, how and in what form, I haven't a bloody clue. I liken it to taking a group of people to a trip to the mountains, you tell them you know exactly which way to go, where the shortcuts are, where the pitfalls exist and to follow your lead and yet you cause them all to get lost because you really didn 't know at all. Some will survive, some not - personally, I don't know about you, but I would not like that sort of thing on my conscience. In fact, each and every one of those following would have been better off preparing themselves better rather than just following blindly.
joeycastaneda56
QUOTE (tralalala @ Jan 3 2008, 06:38 AM) *
My understanding is that this is a forum to discuss spiritual beliefs and ideas, not to jack off to the bible. My belief is that god doesn't exist, and it's just as valid as the belief that he does.


Anyways, this is getting ridiculously off topic. False prophets anyone?

..................I am sorry if i made you angry. I am a nobody. I am just trying to make Heaven my home. But Jesus is a somebody you will never no how much Jesus Christ really loves you. Even if you don't believe in Him. He will love you with all his heart, even if you were the last person on this earth. He would have still died and shed his blood on the cross for you. So you could make Heaven your home to. The reason i wanted you to go to my post about the Catholic Church is to show you how the false doctrine that they are teaching to the people. I have a great love for the Catholic people. It is their false doctrine that needs to be exposed. So i say again i am sorry if made you angry. Joey........................
Omnaka
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jan 3 2008, 01:27 AM) *
I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
—Matthew 16:21-28 (NIV)

so have you seen any 2000 year old Jews lately ?

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Matthew 24:34


now really read Matthew 24.. it is very obvious , painfully obvious , that he is speaking to and about his followers at that time. the 'world' then in speech is not the world now as we know it. which is why in depth he only mentions places like Judea. the world consisted of what they knew. America didn't exist in their world. the World was flat. Their world was how far they could walk and whom they traded with. His 'return' was meant solely for them.

understand the culture and the time and you'd know that.

Hi Lt-Ripley, Could The passage possibly refer toThe spirit which is eternal life?

Reincarnation would mean there are older than 2000 year old Jews.

Love Omnaka
hetrodoxly
That there bible is a load of rubbish (i wrote that with a west country accent, or was it Vicky pollard?) my religion is the best.
Omnaka
QUOTE (hetrodoxly @ Jan 3 2008, 08:34 PM) *
That there bible is a load of rubbish (i wrote that with a west country accent, or was it Vicky pollard?) my religion is the best.

What is your religion and what does it entail?

Love Omnaka
hetrodoxly
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jan 3 2008, 08:36 PM) *
What is your religion and what does it entail?

Love Omnaka

I'm not telling you.
Mr Walker



QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jan 3 2008, 08:36 PM)
What is your religion and what does it entail?

Love Omnaka

QUOTE
I'm not telling you.


Now that does sound like the ideal religion.

Personal.
No need to preach, proslylthesise,or attempt to convert anyone.
No acrimonious debates.
Absolutely incontrovertible and undeniable truth.
No gospel/written belief system that others can warp or twist into their own version.
Truly, I am suprised that more people have not adopted it.
sandee
When I started this topic I had no idea I would get this much information, I had no idea there were so many false prophets today. Or what we consider to be, I thank everyone for their posts, Always a pleasure
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (hetrodoxly @ Jan 3 2008, 03:34 PM) *
That there bible is a load of rubbish (i wrote that with a west country accent, or was it Vicky pollard?) my religion is the best.


I can hear her now !

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Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (Mr Walker @ Jan 3 2008, 08:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jan 3 2008, 08:36 PM)
What is your religion and what does it entail?

Love Omnaka



Now that does sound like the ideal religion.

Personal.
No need to preach, proslylthesise,or attempt to convert anyone.
No acrimonious debates.
Absolutely incontrovertible and undeniable truth.
No gospel/written belief system that others can warp or twist into their own version.
Truly, I am suprised that more people have not adopted it.



It's perfect !!! just you and the big cheese !
Compline
'joeycastaneda56' "....I am sorry if i made you angry. I am a nobody. I am just trying to make Heaven my home. But Jesus is a somebody you will never no how much Jesus Christ really loves you. Even if you don't believe in Him. He will love you with all his heart, even if you were the last person on this earth. He would have still died and shed his blood on the cross for you. So you could make Heaven your home to. The reason i wanted you to go to my post about [i]the Catholic Church is to show you how the false doctrine that they are teaching to the people. I have a great love for the Catholic people. It is their false doctrine that needs to be exposed. So i say again i am sorry if made you angry. Joey"[/i]

Joey, are you not someone who has a serious illness? I have you on my prayer list but cannot recall why = God will sort it out.

It disturbs me when someone has such a deep blackness against the Catholic Church. I am Catholic. You are probably an ex-Catholic who feels aggrieved by something someone in the church has said or done or refused to do for you?

If you are ill, all the more reason just to let it go. Such heat is not adding to good health. If you have found genuine peace in your new faith then the joy of it should not be soured by memories. God knows your soul and true heart and knows how to deal with any false doctrine that may hurt His people.




momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jan 4 2008, 04:48 AM) *
I can hear her now !

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That's my favorite show in the world !! and Nighty Night because it's so disgusting
joeycastaneda56
QUOTE (Compline @ Jan 4 2008, 10:34 AM) *
'joeycastaneda56' "....I am sorry if i made you angry. I am a nobody. I am just trying to make Heaven my home. But Jesus is a somebody you will never no how much Jesus Christ really loves you. Even if you don't believe in Him. He will love you with all his heart, even if you were the last person on this earth. He would have still died and shed his blood on the cross for you. So you could make Heaven your home to. The reason i wanted you to go to my post about [i]the Catholic Church is to show you how the false doctrine that they are teaching to the people. I have a great love for the Catholic people. It is their false doctrine that needs to be exposed. So i say again i am sorry if made you angry. Joey"[/i]

Joey, are you not someone who has a serious illness? I have you on my prayer list but cannot recall why = God will sort it out.

It disturbs me when someone has such a deep blackness against the Catholic Church. I am Catholic. You are probably an ex-Catholic who feels aggrieved by something someone in the church has said or done or refused to do for you?

If you are ill, all the more reason just to let it go. Such heat is not adding to good health. If you have found genuine peace in your new faith then the joy of it should not be soured by memories. God knows your soul and true heart and knows how to deal with any false doctrine that may hurt His people.

.................I was raised in the Church of the Nazarene.But now i attend the Globe Christian Center.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Jan 4 2008, 05:54 AM) *
That's my favorite show in the world !! and Nighty Night because it's so disgusting


ah I miss UKTV !
hetrodoxly
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jan 4 2008, 04:52 PM) *
ah I miss UKTV !

My religion is the best, Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.



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norwood1026
QUOTE (sandee @ Jan 1 2008, 09:18 PM) *
You are missing my point I expect my children to love and respect me, In fact I guess you could say I demand it. I do not give my children the option of loving me God did give us that option, See that is true unconditional love to know that your child may not return your love and yet give that option anyway is true unconditional love. I will not sit here and try to tell you that I would give birth to a child and let that child have the option of loving me because I truly couldn't , But see God did, Always a pleasure



Sandee, I would really like to see you anwser chaoszergs question, I see that you skipped around it & over it but you never anwsered it.
Omnaka
QUOTE (hetrodoxly @ Jan 4 2008, 09:46 PM) *
My religion is the best, Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.



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Angel077
If it's from the bible or related teachings, its true.
tralalala
QUOTE (Angel077 @ Jan 4 2008, 05:00 PM) *
If it's from the bible or related teachings, its true.



Isn't a prophecy a prediction of something happening in the future? Not repeating things from a book written 100s of years ago?
sandee
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Jan 4 2008, 04:56 PM) *
Sandee, I would really like to see you anwser chaoszergs question, I see that you skipped around it & over it but you never anwsered it.


I am sorry what question is that,
sandee
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Jan 4 2008, 04:56 PM) *
Sandee, I would really like to see you anwser chaoszergs question, I see that you skipped around it & over it but you never anwsered it.


I am sorry what question is that,
joeycastaneda56
QUOTE (sandee @ Jan 5 2008, 12:33 AM) *
I am sorry what question is that,

..........................(Prophecy is as simple as history to understand).<<>> This is true because prophecy is simply history written before hand in the same literal language as history which is a record of things that have happened. If one will take all prophecy as a simple record of what is going to happen as he does history as a simple record of what has happened, it will be impossible to misunderstand prophecy.<<>> To Test to see if a Prophet is a true Prophet of God is very simple. All Prophesies that a Prophet Prophesies must pertain to the word and will of God only and must be 100% accurate. If a Prophet is not 100% accurate then he or she is not a prophet of (God). If people will use this simple test they will not be led astray from the true word of God. And it really helps to know the word of God. There are many scriptures in the Old Testament on this subject.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (hetrodoxly @ Jan 4 2008, 04:46 PM) *
My religion is the best, Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.



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lmao
joeycastaneda56
[quote name='Ozi' post='2071513' date='Jan 2 2008, 03:42 PM']Many false prophets have been and will come, they can be recognised by pious people, you analyse their message, ask for proof, proof of gods word and revelation, no mistakes no contradictions no lies, gotta be perfection, if its not, its false. There is an acid test for testing false prophets in the bible too, cant remember which verse, i wll try and find it for you.[/quote


................Sandee don't worry about the mark of the Beast it cannot be given today. The Antichrist cannot come until AFTER the kingdoms are formed inside the old Roman Empire (Dan.7:23-24) and until AFTER the rapture of the church (2 Thess. 2:7-8). Since both of these events are still in the future and since the mark of the beast is to be given only during the last three and one-half years of this age, it cannot be given today (Rev.13:5-18). So don't worry Christians will not be here during the 7 years of tribulation. So remember the mark of the beast can only be given in the second part of the tribulation... We will be in Heaven with Jesus during that time. Only the people that are left behind will be required to take the mark of the beast and during this time the people that turn to God will know not to take the mark of the beast.
sandee
QUOTE (Ozi @ Jan 2 2008, 03:42 PM) *
Many false prophets have been and will come, they can be recognised by pious people, you analyse their message, ask for proof, proof of gods word and revelation, no mistakes no contradictions no lies, gotta be perfection, if its not, its false. There is an acid test for testing false prophets in the bible too, cant remember which verse, i wll try and find it for you.
An acid test? I have never heard of that, did you find the scriptures about it? Thats very interesting that there could be a test for false prophets, Always a pleasure
sandee
QUOTE (joeycastaneda56 @ Jan 1 2008, 09:14 PM) *
......................Sorry about the mistake. You should not waste to much time on (The person you are working with). We all bear fruit after our own kind. We bear fruit after our Lord (Jesus Christ) and this person bears fruit after their kind (Satan). All you can do is keep this person in your prayers that some how Jesus will touch them again and remove hurt from their heart. This person has known Jesus at one time. This person knows the Gospel very well be careful with this one. Because out of the mouth comes Blessing and out of the mouth comes cursing. Sandee I leave you with scripture Romans 8:31 -What then shall we say to these things? If (GOD) is for us, who can be against us. Joey

Every skeptic I have talked to knows a great deal about God and the bible, It leaves me wondering how they got so far from God, To know so much and yet choose to disbelieve in it. I am not sure to who you are referring but I would hope that no ones completly lost. Always a pleasure Joey
chaoszerg

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Every skeptic I have talked to knows a great deal about God and the bible, It leaves me wondering how they got so far from God, To know so much and yet choose to disbelieve in it.



Because some of us see God differently.
Some see God as a figment of the imagination a thing that was needed for those times, But some of us see the God of that Bible as a wicked being that made Satan look like he was a hero and not worth worshipping.


I guess we all have our we reasons why we do not believe.
sandee
QUOTE (chaoszerg @ Jan 5 2008, 08:13 PM) *
Because some of us see God differently.
Some see God as a figment of the imagination a thing that was needed for those times, But some of us see the God of that Bible as a wicked being that made Satan look like he was a hero and not worth worshipping.


I guess we all have our we reasons why we do not believe.



Forgive me I know there was a topic about this ,But how did God make satan into a hero? I know everyone has there own reasons for not believing in God ,But how did they get there. To know God and then turn away, Could be someone turned them away or something. Is the someones and somethings have any idea that you have turned from God because of them or it? Maybe the someones are wrong and the somethings taken wrong, Possible? I do however respect your desicion , Always a pleasure
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (sandee @ Jan 5 2008, 10:14 PM) *
Forgive me I know there was a topic about this ,But how did God make satan into a hero? I know everyone has there own reasons for not believing in God ,But how did they get there. To know God and then turn away, Could be someone turned them away or something. Is the someones and somethings have any idea that you have turned from God because of them or it? Maybe the someones are wrong and the somethings taken wrong, Possible? I do however respect your desicion , Always a pleasure



my question is what if the God worshipped by religions is the ''wolf in sheeps clothing'' and you all are having the wool pulled over your eyes ?
the honest answer would be .............. you don't know.
Nik Xues
you cannot teach man the ways of the father. they must realize it on their own. a hard feat i know but that is why god will spare so few come armegeddon.
NurAllah
QUOTE (sandee @ Dec 31 2007, 06:46 PM) *
The bible and Gods word tells us there will be many false prophets, And that we will be decieved by them. How will we know if it is a falsehood? God says we will believe in them, So why would God then tell us they are false? There will be many lost to God because of the pastors and preachers, God tells us this as well, What about all the followers that believed in the pastor and God, Are they going to be held accountable for their own souls, The bible says the pastor who leads the congregration astray will be held accountable for all of their souls, How can this be. We as individuals are responsible for our own soul, Our own salvation, So are both held accountable? The mark of the beast is a symbol that you will never be taken into heaven, Your soul is lost forever. How do we know what the mark will be, What if we get the mark by being fooled or tricked, Are we still held accountable. I know there are signs and things we can look up in the Bible, But they are so very vague it could be any number of things today, And tomarrow there will be dozens more it could be, How will we know?, Always a pleasure rolleyes.gif

How about John Smith who walked with Jesus? I dont think so.
sandee
QUOTE (NurAllah @ Jan 5 2008, 10:46 PM) *
How about John Smith who walked with Jesus? I dont think so.


Please forgive my ignorence John Smith?
Genocyde
John Smith I believe was the founder of Mormonism? Or was that Joseph Smith? It was Joseph or John, one of them grin2.gif
sandee
QUOTE (Genocyde @ Jan 5 2008, 11:12 PM) *
John Smith I believe was the founder of Mormonism? Or was that Joseph Smith? It was Joseph or John, one of them grin2.gif


Thank you, I knew it souned familiar to me, So is the other poster saying he was or wasnt a false prophet? Always a pleasure
tralalala
QUOTE (Genocyde @ Jan 5 2008, 10:12 PM) *
John Smith I believe was the founder of Mormonism? Or was that Joseph Smith? It was Joseph or John, one of them grin2.gif


Joseph Smith original.gif
tralalala
QUOTE (sandee @ Jan 5 2008, 10:17 PM) *
Thank you, I knew it souned familiar to me, So is the other poster saying he was or wasnt a false prophet? Always a pleasure



That would depend on if the poster is Mormon or not (I couldn't tell by their post either haha). Most christian religions consider him to be a false prophet...Mormons don't.
sandee
QUOTE (tralalala @ Jan 5 2008, 11:26 PM) *
That would depend on if the poster is Mormon or not (I couldn't tell by their post either haha). Most christian religions consider him to be a false prophet...Mormons don't.


According to the dead sea scrolls I believe it does mention him by name, I could be wrong but the researchers say that the scrolls have information that mormons will find proof of their beliefs in some way. I don't know everything about them there is a member here that does maybe he will post and let me know, Always a pleasure
tralalala
QUOTE (sandee @ Jan 5 2008, 11:58 PM) *
According to the dead sea scrolls I believe it does mention him by name, I could be wrong but the researchers say that the scrolls have information that mormons will find proof of their beliefs in some way. I don't know everything about them there is a member here that does maybe he will post and let me know, Always a pleasure



The dead sea scrolls do have some parallels with mormonism, but Joseph Smith is at no time referred to by name.

Here's a link that discusses some of the similarities original.gif it's a little one sided (it's a LDS site and it's in their proof section, so they aren't posting any opposing views) but interesting to read anyways.
Omnaka
QUOTE (tralalala @ Jan 6 2008, 06:11 AM) *
The dead sea scrolls do have some parallels with mormonism, but Joseph Smith is at no time referred to by name.

Here's a link that discusses some of the similarities original.gif it's a little one sided (it's a LDS site and it's in their proof section, so they aren't posting any opposing views) but interesting to read anyways.

Iam not a morman, but they did get Alot corect about Father, but The history Of this world was not over when Joseph Spoke To The angels and Father. THeir doctrin is missing some, There are a few sects , which all believe a little diferently than the other, but they are close to the truth.

Love Omnaka
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