This is the best conspiracy theory yet

On studying the forum postings it appears there is a large contingent of very regular posters including moderators who’s
knowledge base far exceeds what I would call normal. The majority of these seem to passively debunk theory after theory
on the simple basis of there being no proof and the writer is stupid to be thinking along those lines.

Why would someone with there knowledge spend so much time online ?
Are they there to intervene when someone is getting close to the truth ?

(Please do not ask for me to show proof or give names just take a look for your self)



Dan Dare

Rational thought is a wonderful thing. It is something most CT theories are missing. Good luck.

and I am lost as to what the conspiricy is to make this the best one of all of them....I mean you posed some questions....buuuut where is the theory. Im not asking for proof...im just asking for the rest of your post

I can't really agree with you that individuals who frequent the boards a lot or who participate in attempts to debunk topics should in any way arouse suspicion over their motives for being here.

Trying to 'debunk' something is a rational process aimed at understanding and explaining something that we don't yet have an answer for, to get to the bottom of a mystery and solve it in a logical way.

There wouldn't be much of a discussion if everyone sat down to discuss a paranormal topic, simply agreed that it can't be explained and didn't even bother to try and find any explanation for it.

I dare to say some could be paid to actually steer the conversation....do you have any clue how many government agents are online with nothing to do....thousands...but for the most part the site is fairly friendly and I only see a few that might be doing it..one actually admitted doing it..

Thats it, but is it my proof (and that some could actually be paid to do it) The conspiracy deepens lol

Dan Dare

Where can I sign up for that job? I would love it.

i for one will be on here 5 days a week for 9-10 hours...i have a desk job the requires the internet and this is just another tab for me plus I can listen to ringback tones or be on here while listening to it.

Look up "paid trolls" - it's easy.

Quite a few companies do it now.

Of course there are. Any large and well known site will have at least one, often pretending to be a dozen different people through sockpuppet accounts. That doesn't mean they're government though,. There are private coporations doig this sort of thing for advertising purposes and PR.

The topic being discussed is conspiracies, not people being paid to disrupt forums and i very much doubt anyone would benefit enough financially from paying someone to intentionally disrupt this one.

As for someone being paid to debunk conspiracies, it's possible, however I can think of several forums that would be more obvious targets for that than here. I suppose it depends on how much importance could be placed on the ideas and theories being put forward by members of this site to warrant intervention.

I'm conspiring to drink a 12 pack with some friends....thats the best conspiracy yet...happy new year!

Those being paid would benefit finanancially, and the purpose isn't to "disrupt" but to advertise a product, defend/promote a political ideology or POV, spin & PR for a corporation, etc....

Being paid to debunk only those ideas which run counter to a particular government or government agencies interests is also big business.

It's the size of the forum that counts. I've run across such paid trolls on much smaller forums than this one

How do you know they are paid trolls? Aren't there plenty of people out there with all sorts of viewpoints? I have even seen quite a few that just like to be a troll for fun.

Sweetie, I'd hang around here and debunk just to make sure no-one accidentally strolls along here and thinks some of these conspiracies aren't completely accepted as true, with no debate or logical thought used.

--Jaylemurph

dang! Rumbled.

so how much you getting paid 747400?

The money's not great, but we get lunch thrown in.

Could you confirm this comment via documented proof please, as some people feel the need to confirm things this way rather than just believe people.

What you are describing is a conventional 'spammer', either a person or automated script designed to register on and post advertisements or articles to support an agenda or a web site they can make money from.

We remove such posts and ban the accounts as and when we find them, they are commonplace on all internet forums.

[name='Dan-Dare' date='Dec 31 2007, 01:49 PM' post='2068006']


Hardly...



What knowledge base do you consider normal? A high school drop out? Someone with a two year degree?



That is not only the crux of the scientific method but of common sense as well. In order for any claim to be deemed probable verifiable proof must be presented in order to substantiate the claim.



In my experience in this and other forums this is simply an emotional response from CTs when their claims are questioned. UM is a very user friendly forum (for the most part anyway) and direct attack against any poster is forbidden in the rules.

However, I've noticed on many occasions when someone's claim was questioned, their response was defensive, due mostly to the fact that they were unwilling to accept any other explanation other than their own.



Irrelevant. Why would anyone with their knowledge want to watch TV programs? We're human.



If someone was getting close to the truth then myself (and others) would try to help them understand. Unfortunately, what is considered "the truth" to most CTs is often in stark contradiction to anything remotely plausible.



A common statement given by many people regarding just about any mystery on this site. If you have no proof, then why make the statement in the frist place?

I must add that I do not claim to have all the answers, nor do I subscribe to any single explanation without proof to back it up.

And as far as being paid to debunk anything, the pay is bad, the health benefits suck, and there's absolutely no chance of advancement.

Plus you would get your ass banned from here

Edited for legal reasons.

I agree with SaRuMan! I think the "Dan-Dare" is just trying to rattle some chains.

Well, I say "lunch", i mean vouchers for KFC.

vouchers for kfc, sign me up SIGN ME UP

im just here having fun.
getting other insights.
and making my gingerbread man a qudrapalegic. ( kinda sadistic, but hell i have to amuse myself somehow )

wheres the fbi when you need'm?

On Daily Kos, a few months ago there was an article about a company called "Advantage Consultants" that hires out bloggers, spammers, and trolls.

http://www.dailykos.com/tag/Sockpuppetry



NIST shill outs himself on mainstream physics board!
source: http://cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/9731/NIST_shill...m_physics_board


HERE'S AN ARTICLE ABOUT GOVERNMENT SHILLS PAID TO POST ON MESSAGE BOARDS
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

Intentionally planted LIES in the news



Employing shills to post on message boards.



The Israeli government has been doing this sort of thing for awhile now;
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/20...-forums-on.html



Another bunch of megaphone using trolls caught out on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all...php%3Ft%3D63787

Here is what the Megaphone looks like when it is running.



More here....
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/whitesup...sraelishill.php


Yet another government shill gets caught out, this time at Wikipedia

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/ar...06&rel_no=1


More about shills and trolls working for the USA government

The Pentagon’s war on the Internet
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publis...ticle_510.shtml

CENTCOM Team Engages 'Bloggers'
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15287

CENTCOM Eyes Blogs to Shape Opinion
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,89811,00.html

Pentagon boosts 'media war' unit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6100906.stm

Buying of News by Bush's Aides Is Ruled Illegal
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/01/politics...nyt&emc=rss

Pentagon plans propaganda war
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1830500.stm

CENTCOM Eyes Blogs to Shape Opinion
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,89811,00.html

MEDIA ADVISORY:
Pentagon Propaganda Plan Is Undemocratic, Possibly Illegal
http://www.fair.org/activism/osi-propaganda.html


Barging Into the Bloggers' Circle
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...0401441_pf.html

Army to Fake the News
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002938.html





Apparently there's a lot of it about;

Maybe you have noticed the same things as these other people have, here are some comments about it;

I live in San Diego and about 2yrs. ago Microsoft had an XP SP3 update hoopla at the convention center. People from around the world were here, but this one guy I meet when we went out one night had the endless credit card, bought all our drinks and food and we all had a great time. Well as the night went on he was getting wasted of course and let the cat out of the bag, this dude said he was from Virginia and he and 100+ others were full time internet devils advocate for the govt. and they were to go to all of the forums and message sites. There job was to be pro govt. belittle any who countered the argument of the govt. being wrong, there would be at any one time from 1-12 people against one person debating any subject. They would according to him just rip people to shreds in the forums, then it hit me all at once why I could never come up with a good counter argument sometimes when I talked to individuals in the forums, it was because of these people were working in groups against us. I played dumb to this guy, (Karma will get him) and never really said anything on this subject, but trust me on this that they are out there and this does go on. I just want to someday kick there ass on dslreports.com, you will find them there in the forums, it’s pretty obvious who they are.
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Since 2001, I’ve noticed that the Independent Media Center network has been inundated by Trolls/Plants, and several of them appear on different sites, under different “names”. It’s interesting to note their consistent Tactics of Disinformation, and the issues they usually deal with - Bush/PNAC’s close relationship to the Zionist Extremists in Israel, 911 As False Flag, and anything to do with an ongoing military push or economic summit.

Several sites were hacked at the outbreak of the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Israeli push into Lebanon.

While researching the subject, you may wish to contact the Administrators of some of the IMC’s and get their opinion.

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I have been noticing for years, information officers, spamming discussion boards… you recognize them.. when they spew out the party line.. the talking points…. when you engage them, ask them if they are on the government payroll… if they so no…. tell them to apply for a job with Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush/Rice/Rove who are looking for unconscionable men like them! to spew out the lies, misinformation, misrepresentation, distortion, treachery, equivocation, prevarication calumny and lies.

You mean people who don't swallow every single conspiracy theory that is put out automatically? Yes, I've noticed a few about.

I don't spend much time on the internet, but I can use common sense to understand things-

http://www.economist.com/world/displaystor...tory_id=9472498

Yes, I don't swallow that silly "Arabs Did It" one spread by the Bush Administration and their lackeys about 9/11.

It's a really bizarre theory that would require the suspension of the laws of physics, and the ignoring of some amazingly suspicious (and amazingingly convenient) "coincidences"

precisely why the War on Terror is so futile, isn't it. If Al Qaeda only exists as an organisation in that mystical land of "cyberspace", how can you fight it just by invading wherever takes your fancy? It really doesn't matter if O. bin Laden is alive or dead, or even if he ever really existed, really, does it?

What matters is that the best foreign policies are employed by governments. And, that WMDs not fall into the hands of certain groups, and that certain activities by such groups not be allowed to take place.

I appologize, but do not entirely understand what points you are making, '747400'.

I was citing a news article which discussed the use of the internet by groups involved in terrorist activities. Certain responses aimed at their activities might be inferred, or further researched for one's enlightenment.

Personally, I debunk conspiracies because I find them generally very funny. As to finding the time, when I'm working I frequently get to the point where I'm waiting for a big calculation to finish, and this gives me time to go online.

Oh, I understand the point you were making, that it's quite possible for anyone to use the net for their own purposes, sure; I was just making a side observation about the war on terror. It wasn't strictly on topic, no. Please, do carry on, everyone.

Why do you hate freedom, Seven?

I bet you eat falafel, too.

--Jaylemurph