I've lost my faith.... is there anything you can say, which might persuade me to return.

Take me back to the rivers of belief, my friend. Take me back to the rivers of belief.
I look inside my heart, I look inside my soul,
I'm reaching out for you, let's hope one day.

where is the peace, on my rivers of belief?

It would be an important step in your recovery of faith if you could state a few reasons as to why you lost the faith you had in the first place.

Did you look in the freezer? I always look there first...just to make sure...

You have been corrupted by UM!!

You lost your faith in what? Religion? Humanity? Santa Claus?
I lost my faith in all of those except Santa. Santa is definitely real. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar and wants only your total humiliation and destruction.

No one can "give" you your faith back, you have to find it yourself, maybe start looking into some other belief systems to see if they better suit you? Just some advice.

I don't think I believe in anything.

It sounds like you have reseted yourself. That could be a very healthy thing i believe. Maybe you should just give yourself some time and maybe something of interest to believe in will come around.

Believe in me, I'm real, me and Santa both.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UF4_KZfIfVI




Love Dogs

by Rumi

One night a man was crying,

Allah! Allah!

His lips grew sweet with the praising,

until a cynic said,

"So! I have heard you

calling out, but have you ever

gotten any response?"

The man had no answer to that.

He quit praying and fell into a confused sleep.

He dreamed he saw Khidr, the guide of souls,

in a thick, green foliage.

"Why did you stop praising?"

"Because I’ve never heard anything back."

"This longing you express is the return message."

The grief you cry out from

draws you toward union.

Your pure sadness

that wants help

is the secret cup.

Listen to the moan of a dog for its master.

that whining is the connection.

There are love-dogs

no one knows the names of

Give your life

to be one of them.


And for the heck of it

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S7HpkTEUMPw&feature=related

nobody anywhere can say anything that might persuade you back man, because nobody is seeing the world through your eyes. but i can promise, if you try to find your faith and where it went then it will finally come back to you. i just think you lost it for what ever reason but what's lost sometimes isn't really lost it's right in front of our faces.

I don't believe in anything either. Except for Santa. I must believe in Santa! If I don't, I won't get any presents! (Also I will be slain with laser beams from the nostrils of invincible flying deer.)

Do you want to be slain with laser beams from the nostrils of invincible flying deer? I know I don't.

imagine

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0

He has a nice voice. Thanks for a treasure from the past!

Lol, that's an old school track, dude! That was wicked, but too bad, Enigma didn't have a great follow up.

That's very good actually. You haven't lost your faith. You have just placed it somewhere else. If you don't believe in anything, then you have placed your faith in nothing. And that is very good thing. Because only when we discover nothing do we find anything. You think you have lost your faith...you haven't...it is right there all the time. You have faith in nothing. That is everything!

On a different note: How did everything that is come to be? Did you create it? Did something else create it? Did it create itself? What was there before it was? Now, go to the forest...find a creature that you feel comfortable talking to and ask the creature the same questions. Will the creature be any less able to answer them than you are? The animal/human mind is not equipped to deal with the concept of something from nothing. And yet...here we all are.
So...if you believe what you believed before...you are absolutely as correct as if you believe in nothing. Whether you believe in nothing or something is not what is at issue...what is at issue is what you believe. You must either believe in something or nothing. Or everything or nothing. Or something or everything. The list is really endless...but you do believe something...even if you believe nothing...because nothing is something. You haven't lost your faith dude! It isn't yours to lose.

I too have lost my faith. But I still have faith that one day, some way, I will find it again. I am changing , so it is changing, I just need to be able to keep my mind open to recognize it when we are reunited again. I am waiting on it, it is probably waiting on me. may you find your peace. Blessings to you. Dani

Click here Billy & you will be saved>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.venganza.org/

When you pass away , you will drink from the Beer Volcano (situated next to the Stripper Factory).
It"s true, trust me. Would i lie to you ?

Whooooahhh! er, yeah, okay ? Blimey!

I am my own.
I am everyone.
I am the universe.
We are all born from the same stuff from the Big Bang (now dont be cheeky), & when we die we go back to the Earth, ALL of us.
We go back into the Earth to be re-cycled as food for worms,etc,,,,,the food chain.
This will go on for milennia, until our Sun(star) goes supa-nova & takes the solar-system with it.FACT.
Then EVERYTHING of this Earth will be blown into space at unimaginable velocity.
Every single atom of you or me or anything youve ever seen , will still exist.
We could end up anywhere, being anything.

Anyway, thats my belief, & i aint scared of going to hell, & i also dont believe in heaven.
I KNOW where im going !

Lost ya faith?
Ha, i just spotted it, its there.......no....look to ya left......oh...its got away again.
NEVERMIND.

Once I laid flat on my back on a helicopter deck, on an oil rig, somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. I laid there and looked up at the stars....billions of them. I realized that none of it was created. I knew at that moment my faith was gone. I followed that path for years. One day I realized that something appeared from nothing and that before there was something there was nothing...and I couldn't fathom it....how something could appear from nothing...and yet...there it is...and I realized that everything was created and I rediscovered my faith. Now, many years later, I realize that something and nothing are the same thing. That is my faith. I am not one with anything...I am something from nothing. Therefore I am. Therefore I am not.

Faith is like an umbrella. It keeps the rain out...but only if you open it up and cover yourself with it. But the rain doesn't last forever....it just isn't very comfortable being wet.

LMAO I'm a believer... first raptor jesus now this.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. wise words indeed Joc.



Great tune, and I'm a massive Beatles fan, but when Lennon sings imagine a world with no possessions, I wonder if you can.
I think of him in his massive mansion. Or as Bono put it in God part II "Don't believe in riches but you should see where I live"
Yeah this sums up me at the moment.
Lennon GOD

That it! I just believe in me... yoko and me. er....

What's faith?

Don't worry, i've found it for you.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PxizyFW0I40

No faith ?

I suspect you have you been inoculated with a big dose of reason

Try to remember where you last had it. Maybe it is behind the sofa. I lost mine but I found it in the woods were I left it. LOL

wow, then I saw her ".........." now I'm a Believer!

I think you need to give yourself some time to look inside yourself and seek that answer. I think we all go through this from time to time.



*sniff sniff*
That was beautiful! Thank you for that.

Good carry on.

Personally, I'd suggest promoting empiricism in lieu of faith...but that's just my way of dealing with this issue.

My new god shall be called evidence..

That's an interesting point because I think it reflects a lot of what I have said about Evolutionary Zealots.

Their God indeed is evidence.

Question though, is renaming your God really disbelieving or is it deciding that you are gonna rebel and substitute what you want for God.

Doesn't that suggest a 'belief" is still in place?


Isn't this kind of statement the same thing as idolatry?

yes see me 2. my family is christian, so i've always been christian. but then this summer i turned pagan, haha you can see how my family took that. but i went back to christian 2 months ago.
but i just think i'll be better off right now not believeing in anything. just roaming where my heart dreams and where my mind can achieve. and maybe find my faith back later in life.

An Enigma quote. cool.

I love Enigma and I love those lyrics

open up to the dark side, it's brighter than you think.

I had that experience once, it was called Catholic School. Maybe you should find a new philosophy that more suits what you think you believe in now.

your loss/gain, not mine. i am not gonna tell you to do anything.... tell me, how does this sound:

"Hey guys, i just deverted from christianity, but can you try to talk me into coming back?"

When i deverted from christianity to atheism for a whole week, not once did i ask someone to talk me into coming back. i went back by my own road of faith.

Rivers? You sound like a crazy person.

See here, this is what you need to do...go out and paaartay...you're a free man, baby!

And why on earth would you want it back? Faith is a dangerous, misleading, head-in-the-sand approach to life.



Good lad. Have a biscuit.



*rubs hands together* Mwhahahahahahahaha... We have another...

while i do not agree on your views of faith.... there is only one thing that makes up for that.... your gif of that adorable asian girl making all those funny faces