Happiness is love. Happiness is not achieved by changing the world around us, but by changing ourselves. Heaven can be no better than Earth unless we are somehow transformed into better people. If we are simply transported to another place, or a different universe or a higher level of reality, our happiness will not increase in the slightest if we are not changed. If we are changed so that we have perfect love for each other, Heaven could take place on the Earth. It is the absolutely necessary change to us that results in Heaven, not the place to which we go.

Eternity is infinite, so a creature cannot have happiness for an eternity unless that creature has love that is infinite. Any creature that is less than perfect will eventual become miserable. Imagine existence in Heaven in the same beautiful mansion after a billion times a billion years. Not only must we be improved in order for Heaven to be Heaven, we must be made perfect in order for Heaven to remain Heaven for an eternity. Even if eternity consists of one eternal moment due to the elimination of time, happiness is love and happiness cannot be perfect unless love is perfect. We cannot make ourselves perfect, and no spiritual growth or development will ever cause us to become perfect, yet Heaven requires that we be perfect. Mere forgiveness is not enough, in order for Heaven to be Heaven; we must be changed so that we are perfect.

We are each one person, but we contain a physical body and a spiritual body. Our spiritual body is perfect love, but our physical mind tends to be selfish and causes all the poverty, war and unhappiness of this life.

There is only one God. Jesus is not a separate God; but with Jesus, God sent a small part of Himself into the world, like in the expression, “a chip off the old block.” This is why Jesus is called the Son of God and not the Brother of God. Jesus is the only one from the Earth who lived a life of complete and infinite perfection necessary for resurrection to eternal life.

In the end, Jesus will discard His flesh and go back to God, and He will again be one with God and there will be one God. Because of His Righteousness, God must respect us as individuals and not alter or use us as toys; but Christ is one of us; and since Christ discards His flesh, it is only fair and reasonable for us to be given the same opportunity. Once separated from our flesh, our spirit is found to be worthy of eternal life, and capable of enjoying eternal life.

This means that all people who possess unselfish love for others will be made perfect and will have eternal life through Christ regardless of their religious or non-religious beliefs.

This reconciles many conflicting verses in the Bible. We have eternal life through Christ as stated in the Bible, yet we are judged by our works as also stated in the Bible. Our spirit is worthy of eternal life when judged by works, yet God predetermined who would be born with His spirit of love so God predestinated who would go to Heaven as also stated in the Bible. When we have a spiritual experience, we find the spirit that God placed in our heart. The spirit was already there and was not created by the spiritual experience.

We don’t have to accept the unfair doctrine of substitution atonement which is the idea that Jesus is somehow made responsible for our sins. It is not justice that one person be punished for the sins of another, and no amount of theological rhetoric can cause it to be justice. We can now reconcile Old Testament claims that God believes in Justice with New Testament claims that we who do not deserve eternal life are given eternal life by the righteousness of Christ. We have eternal life thanks to the “grace” of Christ, which separates our spirit from our flesh. Our spirit fairly deserves eternal life, so there is Justice.

The death of Christ does not “satisfy” a vengeful God since God is not cruel or unfair. God is infinite Love, Mercy, Compassion and Justice. Christ was without sin and should never have died. Christ had to be killed so that He could return to the Father and provide grace.

There is a reason that this had to be kept secret. If this method for the redemption of humanity is given widespread distribution, it will lead to Armageddon.

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Okay, so what's new about that?

And??

Is this what you find in Catholicism? Evangelicalism? Calvinism? Or any other ism in Christianity?

Okay, so there is an element of Gnosticism in it, but it is not Gnosticism.

It does sound a lot like Christianity...

Yes, but there are many varieties of Christianity. A new "theology" tends to suggest a new version of Christianity, not a whole new religion.

Happiness is Love you say. In retrospect I think they are two different emotions, both positive however. Happiness is the offspring of love. However happiness can also be found in a lot of other things that isn't love. Humans live to be happy yes, and one of the easiest ways to do that is to love another person (because your fullfilling your physical duty as a human being and are justly awarded with the feeling of purpose.) I'm positive that almost every human being out there at one point or another will sit back for a second and ask, "what is the point?" See? We look for purpose and in doing so we are awarded with happiness.

Cant one love his purpose, Or his purpose be loveing others?

Love Omnaka

There is an extremely large array of purpose and depending on how you view life would effect what you feel your purpose is. If your purpose is to be a good father to your family and your succeeding then you're happy. If you're purpose is to succeed with good grades at school then you are happy. Purpose comes in many different forms.

I can tell you how everything you do is for love, Go ahead and ask.

Love Omnaka

Any feeling of posotivity can be lead back to love simply because you LIKE it. People love succeeding. I have some friends who are rather good at riding BMX. That's they're purpose, they love the thrill. Theme park junkies love the excitement of rollercoasters, adrenalin etc. But I guess for the sake of argument I'll play along.

A serial killer finds purpose by killing people. A severe mental disorder nonetheless but in some perverse way finds love for what he does. This can lead to discussion of proving that happiness is indeed only because of the brain. If you don't have your brain what then?

No fair , you answered that one your self.
If you don't have your brain, you wil be excused. and sent back when you have found it.

Love Omnaka

What if your brain ceases to function?

I can't see any great mystery in this, or anything particularly hidden (apart from the general truth that many early christian and biblical beliefs have been radically altered by a succession of religious organisations)

In fact, apart from a slightly different perspective, the only thing I would take issue on with the whole thing, is that certain individuals are predestined to reach heaven. This is not true. Heaven is open to all, but only a small percentage are likely to get there, However, that percentage, and the actual identities of those who would be saved, changes minute by minute. The important thing is to be saved/in a state of grace, when you die, or when jesus returns. Not even jesus knows right now who will be saved, because the books of judgement have not been closed, nor all the names there entered in.

err...yes it does actually. The type of was raised on anyway(C of E).

I say we we make a new religion -

the religion of all. All go home. God takes all no matter what or whom you believe in. no matter what your deeds were.

God is kinda big and perfect that way.


so why does man continue to make God small by inserting rules and conditions? Is it because we are still so closed minded and petty ? surely God isn't. Is it because we can't accept others differences ? well God does. Is it we fear what isn't like us and believes like us ? God has no fear nor mind what we believe.

a perfect God in any sense become jealous or angry ? think about it. both are human frail emotions. negative ones . ones based in fear at the root. How could you equate that with a perfect all knowing all powerful God ?

that's my opinion anyway.

OH YEAH BASED ON WHAT, WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE HEAVEN CAN BE NO BETTER THAN EARTH UNLESS WE ARE TRANSFORMED. iF WE ARE TRANSPORTED TO ANOTHER UNIVERSE, DIMENSION CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, WITH A HIGHER LEVEL OF REALITY, ON WHAT BSIS WONT IT INCREASE OUR HAPPINESS. AND WHY WONT IT. PERFECT LOVE, WHAT IS IT, SOUNDS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT INREALITY WHAT IS IT, WE A CREATION, CREATED BY GOD WHO IS PERFECT, ONLY HE IS PERFECT AND ABSOLUTE, SO HOW CAN WE HAVE PERFECT LOVE, IS THIS PERFECTION AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT GOD IS PERFECT.

YOU CLAIM WE MUST BE PERFECT TO BE IN HEAVEN, WHY? ENTERNITY IS INFINITE, BUT FOREVER IS NOT ENTERNITY NEITHER INFINITE. THEY ARE ACTUAL TWO DIFFERENT TERMS, IF YOU WILL BE IN HEAVEN FOR EVER, THIS MEANS THAT IT WILL BE A LONG TIME, BEYOND OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSION, AS FOR ETERNAL, THIS ONLY AN ATTRIBUTE OF THE FATHER, GOD. yOU SAY HAPPINESS IS LOVE, AND HAPPINESS CANNOT BE PERFECT UNLESS LOVE IS PERFECT. tHIS IS JUST UTTER NONSENSE. SOME POEPLE ARE HAPPY FOR THEY LOVE FOR MONEY, PROBABLY MORE HAPPIER THAN ME AND U, SOME POEPLE HAPPINESS IS DUE TO LOVE FOR SOMTHING OR SOMEONE, LOVE FOR GOD, SHOULD BE PRIMARY AND THE BIGGEST LOVE OF ALL, BUT DUE TO OUR NATURE, WE ALSO ATTAIN HAPPINESS THROUGH OTHER MEANS, BUT ULITMATE HAPPINESS COMES TRHOUGH LOVING AND SUBMITTING YOUR WILL TO GOD. tHE REST OF WHAT U SAY IS JUST NONSENSE.


LOL, OUR SPIRITUAL BODY IS PERFECT LOVE, NO ITS THE SOUL ITS OUR CONCIOUS, OUR PHYSICAL BODIES ARE A MEANS TO SURIVIVE AND UTLISE THIS WORLD. ONCE YOU DIE, THE SOUL IS SEPERATED AND RETURNS TO GOD, NOT AS A PART OF HIM BUT TO HIM, TO BE APART OF HIM WOULD MEAN WE ARE GODS TOO, WHETEHR ITS A SMALL PART OR LARGE, EITHERWAY , WE WOULD ADOPT HIS ATTRIBUTES, AND WE KNOW WE AINT GODS

wITH JESUS GOD SENT A PART OF HIM, AGAIN, GOD IS SEPERATE OF HIS CREATIONS AND THEREFORE DOES NOT BECOME IT, THIS IS NOT BEFITTING A GOD, WHO CAN BECOMES HIS CREATION, IF SO, WHEN JESUS DIED, DID GOD DIE WITH HIM OR THAT PART OF GOD, EITHERWAY , IF A PART OF GOD DIED OR THE WHOLE OF HIM, THIS IS NOT BEFITTING GOD, COS HE HAS NO START OR FINISH. HE IS ABSOLUTE.

cHRIST IS A PART OF GOD, YET HE IS ONE OF US, MAKE UP YOUR MIND, YOUR JUST AS CONTRADICTORY AS THE BIBLE. JESUS IS OLY SON OF GOD IN THE BIBLE, JUST LIKE ADAM, MOSES, AND ALL THE OTHER PROPHETS ARE CALLED SON OF GOD, JUST WHEN YOU MENTION JESUS, THEY PUT A CAPITAL S INFRONT OF SON, TO MAKE HIM STAND OUT AS THE SON OF GOD, YET HEWBREW DOES NOT HAVE CAPITALS. SO THIS IS CLEARLY A LATER ADDITION TO SON OF GOD THEORY, I BET THAT STARTED OUT LIKE YOUR THEORY TOO.

eVERYONE HAS A DEGREE OF SELFISH LOVE, LOOKING OUT FOR ONESELF, SO THAT LEAVE NO ONE.

iT RECONCILES NOTHING, IT JUST FURTHER PROVES HOW CONTRADICTORY THE BIBLE IS AND HOW CHRISTIAN HAVE CHANGED AND MOULDED THE TRUE TEACHING OF CHRIST TO FIT THEIR PRETTY LITTLE IDEAS, WHICH HAVE NO REAL SUBSTANCE OF TRUTH WHAT SO EVER.

THE ONLY THING YOU GOT RIGHT IS, JESUS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ACTIONS, YET THE BIBLE TELL US WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE, THEN ITS SAYS WELL I KILLED MY SON, TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS, THEN WHY ARE WE ACCOUNTABLE, JUST SLAP MY TAB ON THE LAMB. WE DONT GET ETERNAL LIFE, WE GET A LONG LIFE, WE WILL BE THERE FOR EVER, BUT NOT FOR ETERNITY, LIKE SAYING I WAS STUCK IN TRAFFIC FOREVER, WHEN IN REALITY IT WAS LONG, BUT NOT FOR ETERNITY, COS ONLY GOD IS ETERNAL. tHIS THEORY, IS BASICALLY TRYING BEAT AROUND THE BUSH AND TRY AND SAY THAT REALLY WE ARE ALL GODS, AND ONE DAY WE WILL LIVE LIKE ONE.

THE DEATH OF CHRIST IS DEBATABLE, BUT ITS NOT A SIGN OF GOD VENGENCE, BECAUSE GOD DID NOT TRY AND KILL HIM IT WAS THE JEWS. gOD IS INFINITE, HE LOVING , MERCIFUL AND JUST. YOU CONCEPT OF GOD IS A LITTLE SUSPECT, HE HAS HUMAN QUALITES AT ONE TIME, THEN HE HAS TRUE GODSLY QUALITIES, ANOTHER CONTRADICTION ITSELF.


tHE REASON IT WAS SECRET IS, BECAUSE ITS NONSENSE.

The spirit, Our spirit , which was made In God's image, is eternal, and that does mean Infinate, Forever does seem to conotate a period of time.

Love Omnaka

I agree with your view of God.

Please stop shouting.

We may all be called sons and daughters of God, but Jesus is the Son of God in more literal way. Jesus is a “piece” of God that came into the world. Just as our spirit and flesh together constitute the one person that we are, this “piece” of God came into the world attached to a fleshly body. Just like us, Jesus is part physical body and part spirit, only His Spirit is greater than ours. To say that Jesus is human is completely true since He is just as human as the rest of us…body, spirit and soul…just like the rest of us. To say that He is God is also true, since His Spirit is a “piece” of God.

The Spirit of Jesus did not die on the cross. Christ said that He had the power to lay down His life, and He had the power to take it up again. If He laid down His life…if He truly died, how could He take His life up again? Jesus laid down the life of His body, and He took up again the life of His body. His Spirit is God, and cannot die.

We all have the power to lay our life down for another , This love is not exclusive to bro Jesus.

He did not resurect himself Father did it.

My spirit is a piece Of God also. This does not Make Me God. None Is Good But God.

Love Omnaka