why are you humans always try to disprove what is there but not. i mean by this there is many things of mystery. but you humans only chose to take what you can make people believe. if you look around you pethtic mortals only chose to look at theories for facts. if i were in your mortal place i would say there is no need to say what is and isn't if you mortals spent as much time as you do bugging believers as actually working you might be able to accomplish something worth while. what i mean by that every thing you have made will be destroyed in the long run.



for back up of my facts i say look at the sun it will go and take you with it so it could do my job for me correct the mistakes of life do not dismiss the unknown. that is just stupid. if you truely think you are great as a species think of what you have done. well actually i will tell you.


1. slotered your own kind for fun

2. made discrimination a thing to laugh at

3. sheltered the public from truth

4. blame a nature in your self for things you do not understand

5. kill every thing to make your self better

6. ruin each others lifes

7. fight with each other

8. nuke each other

9. start wars

10. praise killing as a good thing then kill people who kill


those are my reasons



sincerely,


human reaper

your not one of us humans, wow I must believe everything you say now "greater power"

Guess what you are one of us pathetic mortals also.






Please dont pretend you are something special and not a mere human mortal like us. It makes you look silly. You are a human being a NORMAL human being...sorry to burst your bubble.

Skeptics and Believers need each other. Also If skeptics were not there to question things we would believeing everything was paranormal or Alien in nature.

Edit to add:

You lost all credability when you tried to make out you were not a normal human.

Also I checked one of your other topics and in it you mention school and silly psi powers so I am guessing you are a kid.

well i never did say i was not human and i never said i was not if you rember all i meant was humanity has along way to go before they do some good

oh and if i am a kid how old school can be collage also i am done responding to this

Hmm lets see...










Hmm seems like you are implying you are something special and not Human.



I understand since you just made a fool of yourself.

Oh ...ok I must have read it wrong, sorry man I thought you might have been playing too many role playing games or something

You've really made things difficult for yourself...

weve done more good than any other species i now of...i dont really here of much other animals trying to save the planet.

this allways annoyed me, people allways say humans are evil. are you any better reaper boy..last i checked you kinda kill lots of people

i just have a fnny image of a guy with a syth no hood sitting at a desktop

Probably because the bong is packed and ready to go, and you will be busy for the next few hours high trying to convince yourself that you are not a pathetic, socially stunted megalomaniac who can't form coherent thoughts, spell, or use punctuation. Spark it up, buddy.

i must say..... thats really dumb. you are mortal too. if we shot you in the face, you would die. your just making yourself look dumber by pretending you are like an all powerful understanding being. your not Chuck Norris ok, nor will you ever be.
first of all, your spelling is horrible. and second, you have no idea what you are talking about.
we dont disprove things just to make ourselfs look better. we do it because we want ourself to rise to the top. if we all let our selfs go chasing something that doesn't exist, we will have wasted a whole generation trying to do something that cant be done, when instead we could have tried to do something that would better ourselfs, and can be done.

your just young and ignorant. dont go rushing into saying things that you dont know all about

You've forgotten, you're one of those 'pathetic mortals' and one among many of those 'you humans'. Are you telling us you're immortal and inhuman? Don't kid yourself.

You're with the rest of us. Don't set yourself aside from humanity and say you've never sinned or that you've been forgiven for all your sins. You're as bad off as the rest of us. And don't even waste my time saying we're getting our asses blown up by the sun but you're going God-knows-where while the rest of us 'suffer for our transgression', yours included.



Like with Hitler and the Nazis, you should always question what you are being told, or what you believe. There are faults. Not everyone's perfect - not like you, at least.



Of course. Mysteries are mysterious. If we believed every theory we stumbled upon this world would be a far worse place.



I only choose to take... what I can make people believe? I can make people believe many things, but it doesn't mean I 'only' choose to accept what I'm communicating, or that I accept it at all. If I can make you believe there's a little gnome who lives on planet Xuruxis named Beeplebop who is the prophesized Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible, that doesn't mean I'm gonna believe it, too.



Theories are most promising sources of information, but yes, it's ideal to look beyond theories sometimes for the truth. I don't disagree with you entirely on this, but on the other hand, it really does sound like you're accusing humanity as a whole based on statements made by only a few. Helps if you backed yourself up a bit. I certainly don't search for facts solely off theories.



Can we ever be sure what 'is' and 'isn't'? Some of us are too absolute, that I can agree with. "My way's the only way." It's not uncommon. And then, there are others like myself who aren't close-minded like that and who choose to look at everything with the perspective that it could be possible. If it can't be disproved, then theoretically it could still exist. And yes, instead of stomping the ideals of believers, everyone should be open to everyone's opinions, firm or not, to hear out more possibilities. There's potential there.



You realize, if we'd never caused any of this in the first place, we wouldn't need to save the planet.



Elucidate.



Connotation is everything. You seriously made yourself out to be a jackass because you connoted it wrong. It's our fault that we took it took that way? No, son. "If I were in your mortal place I would say..." < Explain what this means.

You've just done what just about any other human would have wanted to do. Thanks to discipline, some have learned it's better to try and slide into society with modesty; you've gone to make yourself look like you're special or something. Then again, maybe you are - nobody else here seems to take drugs, do they?

The Op will not be returning to the topic I think.

I smell troll.
Ewww...trolls!

Burn the bridge it's hiding under.

-Akaebeel

Well the guy did word it wrong but he made a COUPLE good points. Its perfectly normal to be skeptic, that's how you learn. But by TELLING people their wrong, demanding they stop, or insinuating that you're better than they are -- or simply scoffing at something that has never happened to you and refusing to believe it because you have no 'proof' is plain wrong and it is that kind of shallow minded attitude that forced my forefathers off their own land centuries ago and started 9/11 and that whole middle east fiasco. Of course that was a grander scale-- but I'm sure you'll see me rant about this later on... btw i am availible for comment anytime on IM or by PM. i will NOT debate in forums.

First of all, get off the cloud, you are as human as the rest of us. The only way to prove something is real is by using evidence, if this evidence is not present then this cannot be proven true.

Skeptics do not try to disprove, but to prove the claim as fact by the means of evidence.




You do not have any evidence whatsoever to prove this as fact, and so your claim has very little credibilty.

Skepticism is a search for reality not for belief. Belief equals faith, reality equals fact.




What do you consider yourself? A demon? An angel? An alien? As born on Earth you are as human as the rest of us here friend.

I assure you... he isn't NORMAL. Judging by his excellent "spelling", and his "compelling" points, and the wonderfully short, and tactful sentences, I can assure you, he isn't NORMAL.

Well .... negativity such as this has the world the way it is. Congrats and go seek professional help.

If there were less people concentrating on BS like this and more on succeeding, well it would be a better place. Threads and people like this are completely useless.

Well you're obviously after doing an English course or 2.

Humanity has done lots of great things. Why do you focus on the bad ones? Try smiling instead of complaining ... everyone can actually do it. If you don't it's because you don't want to. And if you don't want to ... well do it alone in your bedroom and give everyone a break from listening to this foolishness all the time.


Those who don't believe it can be done should not interrupt the people doing it.

Its also perfectly normal to expect proof when we get a silly fantatical claim.

Good for you.

Just noticed your from Dallas Eric-- wow, the thought that we'll soon be living int he same town scares me...

Well, I am sure reality does scare you. Sorry.

Reality doesn't scare me-- at least not your version of it. Eh, it's not worth arguing about. You're still gonna believe what you want and I'll still believe what I KNOW is true, and we'll all live happily ever after. BUT you're location tell me a lot, people in Dallas think they know everything anyways-- one of thereasons I really don't fancy moving there.

The question in hand is not about believing but about knowing by the means of evidence to obtain the fact.

Which includes the fact that if you can't disprove it, it can still exist. The fact that psychics is debatable is one thing, but, quoting someone else in another thread, I seriously doubt there is a 40 pound purple turd in the Earth's core. Psychics at least has some evidence. Based on that, you cannot, simply cannot dismiss it as being false without disproving the evidence of its existence. Nobody can.

You can prove what's in the Earth's core, but psychics is one of those abstract things that's shown itself to many as existing and cannot easily be disproved. You can't really point at psychics and make a definite decision on it's existence. It's an unexplained mystery. It's out there in some realm of existence (not called 'lala land', mind you skeptics) that we kinda overlook, and you can't blame anyone for that. You can drill chunks out of the moon to see what's below its surface because the moon's there where it can be perceived and we have definite control over it, to some degree. Psychics is plainly an enigma, until you know its source, there's not much you can do but continue searching.

Evidence must be present to demostrate the claim as reality. With the absence of evidence the claim is not close to fact.

You can say there is a 40 pound purple turd in the Earth's core, but what evidence can you demostrate to claim this fact? If this evidence is not present then there is no base to prove it as fact. And so the one of the claim should find the genuine evidence to demostrate he is correct.

What?

I choose to be skeptical because I want to be. (Actually, I find it to be a necessity!)

You mean to tell me you're not skeptical of anything related to the paranormal? I find that hard to believe.


Regards,
Tom

You know what assumptions make out of a person. Dallas is great. We work hard here and play hard. It seems you think you konw everything about everything not Dallas.

Skeptics are just more discerning scrutineers of information. We are just as interested in the world around us as believers.

I'm highly skeptical of TK and electro kinesis, that's because I have never seen it in action. However, I take it Alex wants proof. Trust me we all do-- we all want a neat tidy little video that can be posted and will answer ALL our questions. But in some cases, this isn't possible, as with astral projection because anything from this real OBVIOUSLY, not I didn't say defintly can't, but EVIDENTLY cannot be taken to or from other realms. Locating things behind a door is all simply psychic imagery or at least could be.

What we're talking about here is spirit travel... and that's a bit more complicated. My experience had witnesses to everything but the astral projection part-- and it involved my father keeping a promise to me, my mom, and aunt after he died. That's my proof, a promise kept. The rest I don't know how to prove, please someone tell me how?