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xXkyo_rejectXx
well i went to Perkins today with my mom and the restaurant manager is a sex offender cause saw a website eailer with a list of them in are area and he was on and she was thinking he look familiar she got home and look back and saw him the list WHOA
aflac duck
At my parents' job, their manager was a sex offender. Only when the rumors started to fly, he was fired. I'm not sure how long he had been working there. I think I met him before too. my whole family looked him up on the website and we saw his picture. He looked so sad and pathetic mellow.gif
gigs
Most of them have jobs with children.. All need to be registered, and people should be aware. Think of how
many in and around your neighborhood. I looked it up , I had a few in my area and some lived by the
Elementary school.
G_Man
Yes they also seem to live in Trailer park that have alot of kids too. I think everone should look up the one in their area
tralalala
uh...just because someone is a registered sex offender, doesn't mean they're going to go after your kids. There's a good chance they could be more interested in you tongue.gif sex offender does not equal child molester, theres a better possibility that they attacked an adult (or didn't attack anyone, guys they catch jacking off in the park are put on the sex offender registry too. same with the 18 year olds who get arrested for sleeping with their 16 year old girlfriends). Thats not any better than attacking kids though. I just think it's crazy that when people hear sex offender, they immediately think to hide the children.

edited to add- I'm not saying that you shouldn't look them up, but you should also look into what they were charged with before you ban your kid from ever leaving the house again.
xXkyo_rejectXx
btw (by the way just for everyone to know what btw means...i could of just said by the way then typing all this out) my mom found this out at somehting like Megan's law or something like that just go google Megan's law.
BishopRyan
So registered offenders shouldn't be gainfully employeed? I guess they should stay hidden from the public eye and live off of government funding.
ravergirl
Sex Offender can be a lot of things. It can also be a minor charge from when they were barely adults themself and dated someone a couple years younger and their parent didn't like it.. It could be serious. But this manager is a manager in a a family restaurant and not a kids clothing store. He manages people and isn't alone with them. i don't see the problem.
Porthos1
Yeah, no problem until your kid goes to the bathroom alone and gets fondled or molested or even worse just disappears.
NatalieK
The way I see it, every stranger out there should be treated, in your eyes, as a potential sex offender. I wouldn't trust my new neighbour anymore than I'd trust a local known sex offender. Just don't focus all your attention on one guy and leave your back open to the rest. Be lucky some are registered, you can be sure many people in your community will be keeping a close watch on them as well, but be sure there are plenty of unknown others with bad intentions.

And I use the term sex offender loosely btw, cause like previously said, not all are pedophiles and rapists (they're the ones that most people are concerned about). And I don't see anything wrong with this guy being employed (obviously depends on where) because really, being around lots of people is more likely to help his mentality than retreating and becoming reclusive would.
savvygirl
we have a register for sex offender's,but the law here says it does not have to public knowledge where they are now living.Luckily there are organization's out there that do think the public has a right to know,and it is their job to make sure we do.You can access information on the internet and i would strongly recomend that people do just that. original.gif
Ghost It Notes
While I detest sex offenders, I am glad many of you realize the wide range of offenses that can label a person, "sex offender". I live in a large apartment complex and there are 3 registered offenders here. sad.gif . But how many are living next door that aren't registered, or have never been caught yet? Hmmm. One must always use caution in this world. Teach your kids how to be safe...give them permission to not always respect elders and such. But keep aware for yourself too. You don't need to be paranoid, just cautious. And all too often, the pervert is someone you know and trust. Stay safe out there!
goalienan
Two weeks ago, we got a paper from the prosecutor about a sex offender living near to us....In our state, the prosecutors office has to let everyone know, within a certain radius, if one is living nearby...This guy is a tier 3 pedophile, and his victims are between the ages of 3 and adult...Besides his picture, it tells us where he lives, works, and what kind of vehicle he drives....My daughter lives a half a block away from me, but she wasn't within the radius...It is said on the paper, that noone outside the house is to know about this...and I said "yea right"....Needless to say I showed her, and especially my teenage granddaughter....I trust noone......
ravergirl
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 10 2008, 07:19 AM) *
Yeah, no problem until your kid goes to the bathroom alone and gets fondled or molested or even worse just disappears.

If you can't step away from the chips and salsa to escort your child to the bathroom to ensure their safety, you have bigger problems than sex offenders having legitimate jobs. There are preditors out there, protect your kids.
Thats like letting your kid out of the car in africa and not getting out to go with them and then getting mad when a lion attacks..
Porthos1
ravergirl you are seriously out of touch with reality. How many men escorttheir 11 year old daughters to the bathroom. You should try to gather information and think things through before you erroneously attack people.
ravergirl
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 11 2008, 05:39 PM) *
ravergirl you are seriously out of touch with reality. How many men escorttheir 11 year old daughters to the bathroom. You should try to gather information and think things through before you erroneously attack people.

If your 11 year old daughter cannot kick someone in the balls and scream and run out of a restaurant bathroom you have giant problems. The thing is that people have to work. And some people screw up in their youth and have stigma's. I know where all of the sex offender houses are in a 10 mile radius of my house, and I have no kids.

Some people are major sicko's. I am not dismissing that. What i am saying is that you come in contact with sex offenders every single day, and your children probably do too. The best thing that you can do is watch over the little ones with everything you have and start teaching them to protect themselves. kids will have to learn, the world us ugly and you can't lock all the uglyness out. get your 11 year old the MP3 taser and continue eating out.
Porthos1
QUOTE (ravergirl @ Jan 11 2008, 01:14 PM) *
If your 11 year old daughter cannot kick someone in the balls and scream and run out of a restaurant bathroom you have giant problems. The thing is that people have to work. And some people screw up in their youth and have stigma's. I know where all of the sex offender houses are in a 10 mile radius of my house, and I have no kids.

Some people are major sicko's. I am not dismissing that. What i am saying is that you come in contact with sex offenders every single day, and your children probably do too. The best thing that you can do is watch over the little ones with everything you have and start teaching them to protect themselves. kids will have to learn, the world us ugly and you can't lock all the uglyness out. get your 11 year old the MP3 taser and continue eating out.


I think you just like to read what you type. You seem to think that when kids are kidnapped it is the kids or the parents fault. So at what age does someone become unkidnappable? Would you really let an 11 year old have a taser? I am glad you don't have kids now. You should definitely wait until you mature a little more.

We as a society should let sex offenders work in close proximity to kids and not worry about it? Let me guess you're voting for Huckabee right? See there are NOT as many pedophiles out there as you suspect, but after one is convicted, they have absolutely no business ever rejoining society again. EVER. That is my opinion. It is a fact that some people are not treatable. You will not be able to understand my position if you are childless so just give up. From some of your postings I have read you probably wouldn't understand even then, that is sad for the kids. I am not wasting any more time on this one.
Chrisy
I would somewhat have aproblem with this. It's no doult that I got few leaveing in my neighborhood. I even got an alert about a resistered sex offender located in another area. An also if you run into one these guys. www.amw.com Please call.
Fordo
intresting debate:when does society conclude the punishment of an offender?
currently most western countries have a legal system that tells us, once an individual is
sentanced, and does their time, they are free to rejoin society..
but most dont agree..
yes, there are bad people out there,
but until we start executing them, they have to live somewhere...
and have jobs etc...
Purplos
Like many have said here, I think it totally depends on the offense.

I know a very nice 28 year old man who is a registered sex offender. His crime? Fondling his girlfriend of two years when she was fifteen and he was seventeen. The girl's Mom caught them on the couch and had him arrested. (This story is corraborated by the girl in question as well - they are now married.) The guy can't get a job, gets things thrown at his house, etc. People assume he raped five babies and a nun just because he's on that list.

That being said... I have two young boys, and I've checked out who is around us. Luckily, none (that had already been caught at least).
gigs
QUOTE (tralalala @ Jan 5 2008, 09:57 PM) *
uh...just because someone is a registered sex offender, doesn't mean they're going to go after your kids. There's a good chance they could be more interested in you tongue.gif sex offender does not equal child molester, theres a better possibility that they attacked an adult (or didn't attack anyone, guys they catch jacking off in the park are put on the sex offender registry too. same with the 18 year olds who get arrested for sleeping with their 16 year old girlfriends). Thats not any better than attacking kids though. I just think it's crazy that when people hear sex offender, they immediately think to hide the children.

edited to add- I'm not saying that you shouldn't look them up, but you should also look into what they were charged with before you ban your kid from ever leaving the house again.


I agree, glad the guy has a JOB , at least people are aware of him and he is " out" . You can keep yourself and family safer this way. Also,
luckily he is a registered sex offender Yes ? Think of how many crazy sick people we have running around the schools, malls , play zones.
Just be careful and teach your children of the danger of strangers. Shoot our 7 year old has been lectured many times , I pray it all sank in.
G_Man
Gigs #1 Mom. They should just keep them locked up forever in my oppion.... Kansas has a after doing time program for then. So there is a good chance they still dont get out.. Hurray!
tralalala
QUOTE (G_Man @ Jan 12 2008, 01:20 AM) *
Gigs #1 Mom. They should just keep them locked up forever in my oppion.... Kansas has a after doing time program for then. So there is a good chance they still dont get out.. Hurray!



Seriously? You think if an 18 year old has sex with his 16 year old girlfriend he should go away for the rest of his life? because thats how a lot of people end up on that list. Thats what people are saying, no one is saying that you should ask child molesters to babysit your kids, they're saying that people who have done their time should be able to have a job.
goalienan
Like I said in my other post, the tier 3 offender who lives a little to close to us, has a job and it's with a reputable company.....
Chrisy
Keep in mind do the resreach first before jumping to any conclusion. And keep your cool, and remember the law has to protect them too... Believe me this almost feels like the tiwight zone. And it's not worth going to jail for.
xXkyo_rejectXx
i didnt think that everyone had to a little fighting about how they feel about sex offedners i just thought it was weird but i do recomed that every look up and see if there is any in your area.
Rockerchick2008
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 11 2008, 10:39 AM) *
ravergirl you are seriously out of touch with reality. How many men escort their 11 year old daughters to the bathroom. You should try to gather information and think things through before you erroneously attack people.



Ravergirl has a point, but its also called common sense, most places have family washrooms, use those or in the case that there isn't, you let the wife go with the kid, or even just watch the door, be aware of who is going in and out or even stand by the door...
WraithGod
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 11 2008, 12:39 PM) *
ravergirl you are seriously out of touch with reality. How many men escorttheir 11 year old daughters to the bathroom. You should try to gather information and think things through before you erroneously attack people.


Uhm, lots? They at least stand out the door or call in to check for them. I always take my little bro to the door of the loo in a public place.

I personally think them being registered isn't enough. There should be a notice sent out for those whose offense was non-consensual. They did what they did and they should pay the consequences. And since repeat offenses are at 80%, it might make them think twice.

By the way, the disgusting abhorrance that is Karla Homolka is remarried and has a baby. She's been kicked out of one community. I wouldn't want her near me either.
Porthos1
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Jan 29 2008, 03:19 AM) *
Uhm, lots? They at least stand out the door or call in to check for them. I always take my little bro to the door of the loo in a public place.

I personally think them being registered isn't enough. There should be a notice sent out for those whose offense was non-consensual. They did what they did and they should pay the consequences. And since repeat offenses are at 80%, it might make them think twice.

By the way, the disgusting abhorrance that is Karla Homolka is remarried and has a baby. She's been kicked out of one community. I wouldn't want her near me either.


I meant it as if going in with them or even worse taking them in the mens room. But I am watching the door and he/she may be in there cleaning etc.

The greater point being, registered pedophiles should not be allowed to have ANY job whatsoever that could even potentially bring them into contact with children.
WraithGod
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 29 2008, 09:35 PM) *
I meant it as if going in with them or even worse taking them in the mens room. But I am watching the door and he/she may be in there cleaning etc.

The greater point being, registered pedophiles should not be allowed to have ANY job whatsoever that could even potentially bring them into contact with children.


If he takes more than five minutes in there, I open the door and call out, or get someone just going in to do the same. I have no shame in doing that at all.

I certainly agree, but people take pity on them; they act like these people are afflicted with some kind of horrible disease rather than a mental disturbance. Sure they are, but we don't let TB patients out of their room because we feel sorry for them.
Affliction
WHOAH THEY SHUD NEVA WORK AGAIN!!!
OldTimeRadio
QUOTE (BishopRyan @ Jan 9 2008, 08:02 PM) *
So registered offenders shouldn't be gainfully employeed? I guess they should stay hidden from the public eye and live off of government funding.


That's the problem. When a sex offender gets out of prison, he's expected to find and hold an honest job so he can pay rent. Or would it be preferable that he pay his rent through the proceeds from bank robberies and drug deals?
ohio traveler
As the laws get harsher and sex offenders have a harder and harder time even finding an area that they can legally live, they'll probably just quit registering altogether. Many of them now live under bridges.
WraithGod
QUOTE (ohio traveler @ Jan 30 2008, 09:18 AM) *
As the laws get harsher and sex offenders have a harder and harder time even finding an area that they can legally live, they'll probably just quit registering altogether. Many of them now live under bridges.


No offense, but I'm fine with that. They know what they did, and if they didn't they would be in a mental hospital. I'd rather not have my tax dollars go towards "helping" someone who rapes.
Sweetsalem82103
What about those that didn't "rape"? What if its one of the ones that got arrested for having sex with someone a couple years younger than them and it was concensual? People seem to forget that that makes up a good part of sex offenders. I believe that if there is someone that rapes or molests without consent should definitely be given different treatment than those of the other kind. Unfortunately, most of the time, the ones that were just having sex with their girlfriend/boyfriend get treated with the same hatred as those that molested a 10 year old. I don't believe thats fair to them. Not to mention the ones that aren't registered. Those are the ones that you really have to be careful about because they could be anyone. I posted on another thread about an old room mate of mine who's boyfriend was into child pornography and none of us new about it until my husband, my son, and I went out of town and I came back to find all this child pornography downloaded onto my BRAND NEW computer. This man had BABYSAT my little boy before! The only reason I had allowed it was because he had worked with children in the past. I had to take my son to the doctor to get him checked, and, thankfully, the doctor said that my son didn't seem to have signs of molestation. This man didn't even spend a night in jail. the police confiscated my computer and his Xbox (which was "fixed". He had been downloading things on my computer and lap top and uploading them to his Xbox, which was password protected). I finally got my computers back, but the Xbox was sent to the FBI. The last I heard, this good for nothing POS was living in NC with no charges whatsoever. THOSE are the ones you need to watch for.
Cursius
what is WHOA?
limerickboi
well you are lucky that you are told that you have sex offenders in your community

in the uk we are not told that there are any sex offenders in the community as

it is against THERE human rights to let the community know that they are there

incase you attack them
40nrockinon
I used to work with one. Yeah, I learned really quickly what he was charged with...sexual assault of several minor girls. He was in his late 20s at the time, so he couldn't claim they were his girlfriend(s), they were between 12 & 15 yrs. of age.

Then there are several in my complex. I've found out what I can & just kinda keep an eye on them. I got worried at one point because a young girl (11) was always hanging around near the apartment of one. I mentioned to her mom at one point that she might want to keep a closer eye on her. She looke at me weird, I said, "You just never know who lives in a complex this big." She talked to her daughter, her daughter saw no problem with "hangin' around". Mom packed up & moved since she couldn't get her kid to see the light.

Yes, they do have rights, but so do potential victims. There can be a balance betweent the 2 WITHOUT serving up vitims on a silver platter. And, HE!!, YEAH!!! THEY SOULD BE WORKING!!! Just not where they can "feed" on their favorite prey.
SoulFire

i use to live in a very secluded private lake community in the north georgia mountains. the state located 12 convicted sex offenders there because it was soo far from schools. i get it, but damn ohmy.gif
Light'sShadow
We had at least 4 registered sex offenders living in our old neighborhood. It was scary when i was 12-14. I wouldn't walk past their houses. Now I don' t have to worry about it, at least those four in particular. We moved thank goodness.


gabolai
QUOTE (NatalieK @ Jan 10 2008, 08:03 AM) *
The way I see it, every stranger out there should be treated, in your eyes, as a potential sex offender. I wouldn't trust my new neighbour anymore than I'd trust a local known sex offender. Just don't focus all your attention on one guy and leave your back open to the rest. Be lucky some are registered, you can be sure many people in your community will be keeping a close watch on them as well, but be sure there are plenty of unknown others with bad intentions.

And I use the term sex offender loosely btw, cause like previously said, not all are pedophiles and rapists (they're the ones that most people are concerned about). And I don't see anything wrong with this guy being employed (obviously depends on where) because really, being around lots of people is more likely to help his mentality than retreating and becoming reclusive would.




I agree with you, even my mother thinks I am over protective but in todays world you never know.
Sthenno
QUOTE (limerickboi @ Feb 23 2008, 12:32 PM) *
well you are lucky that you are told that you have sex offenders in your community

in the uk we are not told that there are any sex offenders in the community as

it is against THERE human rights to let the community know that they are there

incase you attack them


You realise this is the same country where people attack paediatricians, right?

Look at all the fuss that happens when people involved in high profile cases are given new identities - people everywhere who just happen to be of a vaguely similar sex and age get lynched.

If we had something similar in the UK, people would attack everyone regardless of whether they were a rapist or a seventeen year old who slept with their fifteen year old girlfriend.
Sthenno
QUOTE (gabolai @ Apr 23 2008, 09:02 PM) *
I agree with you, even my mother thinks I am over protective but in todays world you never know.


I'm always intrigued by statements like this... do you think that the in 'today's world' there are more rapists and paedophiles then there were fifty years ago? I personally don't think the world's any more dangerous, but people always seem to justify mollycoddling their kids with this claim.
gabolai
QUOTE (Sthenno @ Apr 23 2008, 08:09 PM) *
I'm always intrigued by statements like this... do you think that the in 'today's world' there are more rapists and paedophiles then there were fifty years ago? I personally don't think the world's any more dangerous, but people always seem to justify mollycoddling their kids with this claim.




You are right even as I wrote "in todays world" I thought to myself 'I would be no different in another time.' Then I wondered is that true, because in todays world we have the media sharing every tragic childhood and fifty years ago this was not so. Therefore even if the world was just as full of perverts and kidnappers then, unless it happened to you, you could easyly belive that everyone was good and evil did not exist.

Now all I have to do is turn on the news or Nancy Grace and I don't even want to walk out my front door, much less send my kids out into it.
Drayno
I knew a boy who streaked at the homecoming pep rally. He was eighteen and there were children present, he is now a registered sex offender and he gets attacked constantly. I do not believe a person who has consensual sex with someone a bit younger than them should be locked up are given the title of a sex offender. They possibly were immature, but there are options such as restraining orders on the parents part if it is absolutely necessary for their son or daughters well being, or forbidding contact.

People who ARE sexual offenders messed up yes, but there is something wrong with them, and there is help. They should have a second chance if lets say...they download Child Pornography, as wrong as it is, they never DID anything physical. But I believe people who have touched kids need to be isolated from the rest of society.
Affliction
QUOTE (Cursius @ Feb 22 2008, 11:01 PM) *
what is WHOA?

Whoa is me. *slaps knee*
Lady_Boleyn
It's weird how some sex offenders can get themselves in schools and such.
I was working at a school, and we had a new guy working there, and we kept hearing rumors that he was a sex offender. Then, the newspaper came out and he was on the front page, with a think 13 indictments and it was a multi-county thing. I mean we had parents who pulled their kids out, and I quit my job there, b/c the guy who ran the school was saying the newspaper was lying, when I knew people (in the DA's office) who were telling me this guy was a MAJOR creep. It's scary that you have to watch your kids so closely now.
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