(sic)ken
Jan 6 2008, 04:10 PM
I caught a a ghost messing with my bed and then slamming the door shut
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1021949/proo..._ghost_video_2/
Akatsuki-pein
Jan 6 2008, 04:24 PM
seems to me that theres a person outside the room with fishing wire and hooks tugging .due to the way the covers are pulled
SS79
Jan 6 2008, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Akatsuki-pein @ Jan 6 2008, 04:24 PM)

seems to me that theres a person outside the room with fishing wire and hooks tugging .due to the way the covers are pulled

same here . thats what i think
NoahJaymes
Jan 6 2008, 04:42 PM
At least they thought of putting it under the sheets so we couldn't see it. However, how convienent to be filming the exact location as something is happening. Also as the sheet is being tugged, its consistant with a centerized pull, meaning a string. Notice how the sheet when tugged is the form of an upside down V, the center point of the V is where the centerized pull is taking place. At the final pull the sheet gave way and you can see apart of the sheet being pulled under the blanketed sheet by the pillow. I will throw this in my video editor to explain what I am talking about.
AngelXVI
Jan 6 2008, 04:49 PM
Its fake... ghost/spirits don't hang around conveniently to be filmed, most genuine ghost shots are incidental findings in my opinion!
Intelligent Insight
Jan 6 2008, 04:58 PM
QUOTE (AngelXVI @ Jan 6 2008, 11:49 AM)

Its fake... ghost/spirits don't hang around conveniently to be filmed, most genuine ghost shots are incidental findings in my opinion!
Yes i agree i dont think even if this person had alot of spiritual activity that the ghost would like to be filmed...
NoahJaymes
Jan 6 2008, 05:22 PM
Alright, I couldnt download the video so I took screen shots.

By this image, you can see the center point I was referring to. Also, if it were pulled by something other than a string, like as if someone was pulling it by hand. The gripping of the sheet would cause the right side of the sheet to lap over the bed that was uncovered rather than staying in a straight line.

Here the arrow points out where thet sheet went under the sheet that wasn't disturbed right near the pillow. If you watch the video again you can see it in full motion. Also notice the sheet still did no lap over. Perfect straight line.
All seems a little fishy to me and that is why.
AngelXVI
Jan 6 2008, 05:29 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Jan 6 2008, 12:22 PM)

Alright, I couldnt download the video so I took screen shots.

By this image, you can see the center point I was referring to. Also, if it were pulled by something other than a string, like as if someone was pulling it by hand. The gripping of the sheet would cause the right side of the sheet to lap over the bed that was uncovered rather than staying in a straight line.

Here the arrow points out where thet sheet went under the sheet that wasn't disturbed right near the pillow. If you watch the video again you can see it in full motion. Also notice the sheet still did no lap over. Perfect straight line.
All seems a little fishy to me and that is why.
Very fishy... they are not usually that cooperative. In my opinion and experience they usually show when you least expect them, and when they do show they don't hang around long enough for you to take pics... thats why I believe it is very hard to capture a genuine one on camera.
SS79
Jan 6 2008, 05:40 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Jan 6 2008, 05:22 PM)

Alright, I couldnt download the video so I took screen shots.
All seems a little fishy to me and that is why.
lol good work
NoahJaymes
Jan 6 2008, 05:49 PM
Ya know, this is why I am the way I am on here. The ppl who come on here with REAL claims are often overlooked because people fabricate things. My skeptic level is 99.98 percent when it used to be equal when I first came on here. I mean, something really has to blow me away picture or other evidence wise to even get me thinking.
Johnny Cuchara
Jan 6 2008, 05:51 PM
That looks too rediculous
Regency
Jan 6 2008, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Jan 6 2008, 05:49 PM)

Ya know, this is why I am the way I am on here. The ppl who come on here with REAL claims are often overlooked because people fabricate things. My skeptic level is 99.98 percent when it used to be equal when I first came on here. I mean, something really has to blow me away picture or other evidence wise to even get me thinking.
Hi
I agree with this. What's a good example of what you consider to be a genuine ghost photo?
Also, whilst we're talking about bedsheets being pulled, what did you make of the TAPS bed video - I thought this was a really good piece of evidence, the TAPS guys blew it off - I don't think they faked it though, the link to vid is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVyDb7Mvb7sReg
NoahJaymes
Jan 6 2008, 06:46 PM
Well photo wise, I don't believe I have ever seen a genuine photo of a ghost. It really has to stand out and honestly I would have to of been there to know the elements surrounding the picture. Its nothing against those who claim they have photographic evidence of such claims, but seeing a photo that you personally did not take or are viewing online you can never say what is on the film or camera.
As for the video clip of TAPS I don't really know. The angle of the video doesn't show the bed in its entirety. Although the drawing shows what appears to be how he is laying. I don't believe it was him moving his leg and I definately do not think TAPS would put their rep on the line by fabricating. Also, the camera was set up and stationary, not someone holding the camera as the events unfolded. It would be easier to determine if you seen the video in its entirety rather than the clip. I don't like giving opinions of what I think it is, but I can always suggest what it could be. Hard telling, but I do remember when I seen this I was like whoa. Which oddly enough, doesn't happen often.
Regency
Jan 6 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Jan 6 2008, 06:46 PM)

I don't like giving opinions of what I think it is, but I can always suggest what it could be. Hard telling, but I do remember when I seen this I was like whoa. Which oddly enough, doesn't happen often.
Me too, I was surprised when they dismissed it so fast.
JustNormal
Jan 6 2008, 07:39 PM
I dont buy this video and I am very open minded..The first reason is, if this were taken by a web cam being set up for a night or days, then I might believe it. But to walk around with a camcorder and the "spirit" performs TWO tricks in the same amount of minutes, doesnt appear to be a coincidence. Secondly the sheet pulling appears to be totally fake. Like others said, this video was manipulated by humans. I find it immature and in poor taste to post something that is a fake, its just WRONG..JN
Episteme
Jan 6 2008, 07:46 PM
Rbacon was better, that heavy breathing guy on youtube. Maybe if the lights flickered while this was happening, you were breathing very hard and shaking the camera, and add a picture on the wall or hanging light to wave around.
JustNormal
Jan 6 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 6 2008, 07:26 PM)

Me too, I was surprised when they dismissed it so fast.
They dismiss everything to fast...IMO
tahari01
Jan 6 2008, 11:01 PM
Seems to me, somebody is under the bed doing this. It can very easily be replicated. I'm with JN on this, I'm very open-minded, but this one just isn't believable.
unsere
Jan 7 2008, 12:05 AM
(Sic)ken, after watching both of your videos, I am convinced that both are complete fakes. If you are interested in the paranormal, why not take your trusty video camera and head out to some known haunted locations? You might actually capture some real footage, although after seeing the first two obvious fakes, people will likely not trust anything you display as evidence.
P.S. - I am NOT a skeptic regarding the existance of ghosts and spirits. I am however skeptical of your videos.
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