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How Many Kids Will The US Kill In 2008?

By Dr Gideon Polya

08/01/08 "ICH" -- -- I seem to have been demonstrating against American racism, imperialism, wars and mass murder all my adult life from the Vietnam era of the 1960s and 1970s onwards. Back in the 1960s decent people chanted “Hay, hay LBJ, how many kids will you kill today?” (LBJ being US President Lyndon Baines Johnson who presided over the Indochina War - 13 million excess deaths in total - from the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy (JFK) in 1963 to the accession of President Richard Nixon in 1969.

These days we have been chanting “Bush, Blair, CIA, how many kids did you kill today?” or the more general “Hay, hay USA, how many kids did you kill today?” This article by a senior biological scientist attempts to answer this question QUANTITATIVELY using the best available data from UNICEF (see: http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/index.html ) and the UN Population Division (see: http://esa.un.org/unpp/ ).

We can get an UPPER LIMIT estimate from determining the number of children who die avoidably on Spaceship Earth with George Bush in charge of the flight deck. I have published a huge book recently called “Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950”. (G.M. Polya, Melbourne; copies in some major libraries; see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/ and http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com/ ). Careful research over several years and involving every country in the world ultimately obtained the estimate that 16 million people die avoidably each year (2003 data) of whom 9.6 million are under-5 year old infants.

We can accordingly estimate that Bush US is COMPLICIT in about 9.6 million avoidable infant deaths on Spaceship Earth each year (26,000 daily). However complicity is not the same as actual, actionable RESPONSIBILITY.

However while Bush America cannot be held responsible for every country in the world, under International Law it is certainly responsible for all countries actually violently occupied by the US (Occupied Iraq, Occupied Afghanistan, Occupied Diego Garcia) or by its war criminal surrogates Ethiopia and Racist Zionist-run Apartheid Israel (Occupied Haiti, Occupied Palestine, Occupied Somalia).

This culpability is clearly set out in Articles 55 and 56 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (see: http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm ), QUOTE:

Article 55
To the fullest extent of the means available to it the Occupying Power has the duty of ensuring the food and medical supplies of the population; it should, in particular, bring in the necessary foodstuffs, medical stores and other articles if the resources of the occupied territory are inadequate.

The Occupying Power may not requisition foodstuffs, articles or medical supplies available in the occupied territory, except for use by the occupation forces and administration personnel, and then only if the requirements of the civilian population have been taken into account. Subject to the provisions of other international Conventions, the Occupying Power shall make arrangements to ensure that fair value is paid for any requisitioned goods.

The Protecting Power shall, at any time, be at liberty to verify the state of the food and medical supplies in occupied territories, except where temporary restrictions are made necessary by imperative military requirements.

Article 56

To the fullest extent of the means available to it, the Occupying Power has the duty of ensuring and maintaining, with the cooperation of national and local authorities, the medical and hospital establishments and services, public health and hygiene in the occupied territory, with particular reference to the adoption and application of the prophylactic and preventive measures necessary to combat the spread of contagious diseases and epidemics. Medical personnel of all categories shall be allowed to carry out their duties.

If new hospitals are set up in occupied territory and if the competent organs of the occupied State are not operating there, the occupying authorities shall, if necessary, grant them the recognition provided for in Article 18. In similar circumstances, the occupying authorities shall also grant recognition to hospital personnel and transport vehicles under the provisions of Articles 20 and 21.

In adopting measures of health and hygiene and in their implementation, the Occupying Power shall take into consideration the moral and ethical susceptibilities of the population of the occupied territory. END QUOTE.

Using data from UNICEF it can be estimated that 608,000 under-5 year old infants die ANNUALLY in the US- or US surrogate-occupied Occupied Territories listed above, 90% avoidably - i.e. 550,000 - and due to Occupier war crimes in violation of the Geneva Convention.

Continues........... http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19026.htm
Thanato
IM going to say, 6.6 Billion!

~Thanato
__Kratos__
Claims of the right all being racists and the jews commiting 9/11 is what made me laugh... roll my eyes and close the window... What a joke.
et's daddy
is this guy a complete nut-job or is it only a part-time job ?
InHuman
Bob, in your opinion is America the root of all evil?

And is G.W satan? Or is he just a tool?
SirRedeye
im actually glad we have america and the cia to "police" most of the world, if we didnt our daily lives would be
involved and surrounded by idiots detailed in the link below.... disgust.gif

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=334430
i wonder how many kids america kills-compared to the rest of the world?
el midgetron
Bob, I agree with alot of your views, however I wonder how you are going to adjust to having a democrate in office next year. Do you think things are going to get better?
Unlimited
QUOTE (el midgetron @ Jan 9 2008, 04:09 AM) *
how you are going to adjust to having a democrate in office next year. Do you think things are going to get better?


I dont think he's from america really?..so it wont matter..he's just here to make americans look bad..
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (SirRedeye @ Jan 9 2008, 03:58 AM) *
im actually glad we have america and the cia to "police" most of the world, if we didnt our daily lives would be
involved and surrounded by idiots detailed in the link below.... disgust.gif

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=334430
i wonder how many kids america kills-compared to the rest of the world?

I wonder too, sadly we cannot compare America to the rest of the world, there is no balance there, America doesn't make up half the world you see...
Bill Hill

Gideon Polya..is just another blog ranter with an odd obsession with race.

"The US, UK, White Australia, the other Coalition countries and Israel ALL fail the "Jewish Test for Racism and Proto-Nazism" through the huge passive murder of their ARAB and other subjects in gross violation of the Geneva Conventions. ANYONE aware of these obscenities who purchases goods and services from these egregiously racist countries becomes COMPLICIT in their crimes against humanity. INFORMING OTHERS and "free market choice" SANCTIONS AND BOYCOTTS are the only sensible ways by which decent, peace-loving people around the world can bring a stop to the horrendous, continuing, racist crimes of the globally dominant US Empire"
Dr Gideon Polya

lol rolleyes.gif sleepy.gif
Q24
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Jan 9 2008, 10:01 AM) *
I dont think he's from america really?..so it wont matter..he's just here to make americans look bad..

Unlimited, your views confuse me much. When Bob mentions the US, he is referring to the same elements that promoted 9/11, invaded Afghanistan, used false information to attak Iraq and who wish for war with Iran. I do not think Bob is referring to the average US citizen.

If you accept 9/11 was an inside job thus allowing the invasion of Afghanistan, you must accept those same elements gave false information for a war on Iraq and again would like war with Iran. The 'War on Terror' created from 9/11 encompasses all of this.

Therefore how your views of 9/11 being an inside job and yet seeming support for ongoing US wars fit together, I cannot figure.

Bob's messages broadly taken are of promoting peace.

Sadonis
Shall I give you a number on those who have died in the name of God?

No? Alright then.




Shall I give you the number on those who have died in the name of the occupation and conquering of land in Europe?

No? Alright then.


Can barely give a real number since they didn't keep efficient records.

Not even counting the wars that actually made sense(WWII, Revolutionary) the number of deaths in the US compared to that is nothing. Don't they all seem futile?


Europeans need to get over themselves. The US is a "baby" country still even if its bit under 300 years old. High horses are not required.


And stop blaming "Americans" and start blaming Bush. Plenty of Americans want the soldiers out but we have no call other than our rights to vote. Maybe when the baby boomer's begin to pass away you'll notice a big change. Kids these days could care less about gay marriage and would rather have peace while understanding the necessity of a scuffle or two.
jakz.ko.ex
QUOTE (Sadonis @ Jan 10 2008, 05:45 AM) *
Shall I give you a number on those who have died in the name of God?

No? Alright then.




Shall I give you the number on those who have died in the name of the occupation and conquering of land in Europe?

No? Alright then.


Can barely give a real number since they didn't keep efficient records.

Not even counting the wars that actually made sense(WWII, Revolutionary) the number of deaths in the US compared to that is nothing. Don't they all seem futile?


Europeans need to get over themselves. The US is a "baby" country still even if its bit under 300 years old. High horses are not required.


And stop blaming "Americans" and start blaming Bush. Plenty of Americans want the soldiers out but we have no call other than our rights to vote. Maybe when the baby boomer's begin to pass away you'll notice a big change. Kids these days could care less about gay marriage and would rather have peace while understanding the necessity of a scuffle or two.

Am not American but I totally agree... lol
Ugly1
This Bob guy is a clown. Lol. Nice clown shoes buddy.

Personally I say 1 hundred trillion.
Unlimited
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jan 9 2008, 03:20 PM) *
Therefore how your views of 9/11 being an inside job and yet seeming support for ongoing US wars fit together, I cannot figure.


do you know how many terrorists were training in afghanistan pre-9/11....about 800,000...they had to be stopped...
Q24
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Jan 10 2008, 12:24 PM) *
do you know how many terrorists were training in afghanistan pre-9/11....about 800,000...they had to be stopped...

Terrorists, terrorists, who is a terrorist? You counted about 800,000? Or was there a poll: ‘please tick here if you are a terrorist’. Or is that the number of people the Pentagon said opposed US foreign policy? How many terrorist attacks on the US mainland, barring 9/11, have been attributed to groups trained in Afghanistan? If you regard 9/11 to be an inside job, to claim a war was necessary on Afghanistan to reduce terrorism levels has no logic.

The reason I asked, is that if people are crudely split into groups of "official story"/"inside job" and "anti-war"/"pro-war", then roughly quantified we get the following: -

Official story + anti-war = large number
Official story + pro-war = large number
Inside job + anti-war = large number
Inside job + pro-war = very few
You seem to fall into the last category which I found interesting.
BrucePrime
Notice how in their methodology, they do not take into account factors such as conditions of the country before occupation, or how the country not being occupied would change things for the better. How would the situation be different in Ethopia-backed forced where not in "control" of Somalia? How would the situation in Afghanistan be any different if the Taliban were still in control? These issues are not addressed; it is simply an ignorant, "It's George Bush's fault" explaination, an effort to blame him (and the US) for every ill in the world. And yet another case of a far-leftist forgetting traditional liberal values, and engaging in magical thinking that if the US or allied nation somewhere, that it would be a socialist utopia under a benevolent dictator.

Bob, would you care to explain how Somalia would be better off under the Islamic Courts, or Afghanistan under the Taliban?
BrucePrime
Notice it is over twelve hours later, and Bob has not been able to produce any answers.
Unlimited
QUOTE (BrucePrime @ Jan 11 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Notice it is over twelve hours later, and Bob has not been able to produce any answers.


Bob posts anti-american articles...he rarely gives an opinion, or answers any questions...theirs another anti-american story to post.so he's busy....
REBEL
The title of the story written by that Dr Gideon Polya character, How Many Kids Will The ''US'' Kill In 2008?...
Making it out to sound like the US & ALL it's citizens are evil bad asses and wanna take over and dominate the world killing and destroying everything & anything thats gets in their way etc etc. The American citizens never wanted or asked for war... IMO big private business and their interests that are at the core of these wars, come on...talk about causing anti americanism <-- (i think i just made that up)(?) lol! not to mention hatred, pretty sloppy & careless if ya ask me.

Me thinks ya better mellow out & take it a little easier when post'n these type stories Bob...
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