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KS15
More Nepenthes Mensae images.

This first image is section of the Mars Express original. No enlargement. Filtered for noise. Resolution is approx. 15 meters per pixel (49 feet). North is to the right in all images.

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Areas of interest marked with arrows. Note geologic features A and B. I am assuming these are natural features.
However, I suspect they are designed or built structures. Both objects are similar in shape. The ridges of both objects are align with each other.
Note black lines. Angles of both ridges a, b are approx. 140 degrees. It is highly unlikely two large geologic features would have identical angles.

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This image has areas of interest enhanced. No enlargement. Note areas A, B, C, D, and F.

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An enhancement of area D. Note objects 1 thru 3. Object 2 is a bright linear feature oriented North to South.
Dark geometric objects 1 and 3 seem to be surface openings. I am theorizing objects 1 - 3 is apart of a single clear crystal structure embedded in the ground.
Object 4 is a facial profile. Note rectangular structure B. This structure seems to be partially buried. Note sharp edge.

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Another view of area D.

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This image is a facial profile. There seems to be an ear, eye, mouth. The nose use to be an upright structure….now toppled.
Object C is a slightly tilted, suspended rectangular object. There is an unseen support underneath this object. Note shadow.

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This image shows a figure wearing a pointed hat. The left side is partially buried. Note highly reflective surface.
There is an eye, nose, mouth, and a tongue sticking out. Enlargements show an X on the tongue.

Additional images:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Nepe...Mensae/D22a.jpg
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/More_Nep...mages/NEP24.jpg
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/More_Nep...ages/NEP25a.jpg
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/More_Nep...mages/NEP29.jpg

Source Image:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM4FHSZEFF_0.html

Website:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html
KS15
A few observations on the Mars Express TIFF images. This is a boring, lengthy post.
I tried to keep it short. But this post evolved into this....It is an important read.

The TIFF image options of the following sources are FALSE...

http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...e=y&start=4
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...=y&start=10
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM565R03EF_1.html
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM4FHSZEFF_0.html

According to the HRSC Camera website, All initial images are JPEG compressed before transmission to Earth.

Two excerpts of the HRSC Camera website....

Data Compression Electronics (DCE)
The DCE consists of 4 Compression Units (CU) and the microcontroller (MC). The input buffers of the 4 CUs are directly linked to the four signal chains of the Camera Head.
Each CU works individually and uses a parameter table controlled JPEG compression algorithm. After compression, an 80C31 microcontroller combines the data streams via multiplexing to a serial output.

Data reduction and output
Combining the nine channels and the SRC together in full resolution, would result in an enormous data rate. The main antenna has a limited data rate and has a maximum of 8 hours per Earth-day for contact with the ground station. Thus there is a need of data reduction. This is performed by two methods - pixel summation and compression. The pixel summation creates averages of adjacent pixels. The 1X1 summation keeps the full resolution. The 2X2 summation creates an average of a square with an edge-length of 2 pixels. This decreases the data volume by a factor of four. Further options are a 4X4 and an 8X8 summation. The second method is a JPEG based data compression. After extensive tests with sample data, the compression factor has been determined to a variable factor between 4 and 10. This enables a compression of the data at acceptable losses in quality.

HRSC Camera Website:
http://berlinadmin.dlr.de/Missions/express...kameraeng.shtml

My question is..Where are they getting large TIFF images from????
Which image is the correct one????Is it the JPEG or the TIFF??
Is the Mars Express spacecraft transmitting large file TIFF images??
I can save a small file JPEG as a TIFF. Usually, The image remains the same.
There is a better loss-less option..Use PNG format.

Link: PNG versus TIFF:
http://morris-photographics.com/photoshop/...png-format.html

TIFF link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format

JPEG link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG

I do realize there is an option to bypass the compression algorithms. Even so, I have found flaws in their TIFF images.

I download a TIFF image of Noctis Labyrinthus and done some experimenting. Using Adobe Photoshop CS3, I would save this file as a JPEG. I experimented with various JPEG
compression settings...Number 3 to 11. I have found little difference in image quality. I detect slight variations and that's it. The image remains the same for all practical purposes.
Both JPEG and TIFF versions basically agree with each other.

Noctis Labyrinthus:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...=y&start=51

I experimented with a Cydonia TIFF image.

Link:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...=y&start=10

With this Cydonia image, The TIFF image changes drastically. The only image that makes sense is when saved as a number 7 JPEG. This is the same as their JPEG image option.
They might as well remove their TIFF image option.

In any case, TIFF or JPEG, All the Cydonia features are still present. Except the TIFF version has data missing, changed or subdued..Especially around the "Pyramid" (Refer to post 284,Page 19). This data magically reappears in their "pretty JPEG version". This image data appears when the TIFF image is compressed to a JPEG.I have also found natural geologic features remain
unchanged in both JPEG and TIFF. It seems only the anomalous objects differ significantly between JPEG and TIFF. Conclusion: Their TIFF image of Cydonia has been selectively edited or
programmed to change when compressed to a JPEG.

I did some experimenting with the TIFF image of Nepenthes Mensae. My initial observations reveal a poor washed out image. Forget about anomalies....I am talking about the image in a general sense. All the natural geology is inferior compare to the JPEG.

I went ahead and perform the same experiment, Save the TIFF image as a JPEG.There was no change at all.
The same degraded ugly image persists. Most all the anomalous objects are still present..Just degraded in this "Ugly TIFF version". Some anomalies are missing completely.
As with the Cydonia TIFF, There are hints of selective editing.

Adobe Photoshop CS3 has a Navigator tab with a Zoom slider. When the Nepenthes TIFF is reduced to 50%, Both TIFF and JPEG images match. At any other setting, the image reverts back to the "Ugly image". I tried to reduce the TIFF image using a bicubic sharper technigue...This did not work. Very unusual.

I do not trust their TIFF images. This holds true for their other TIFF images of Mars. I will stick to their JPEG's as the "Correct" images of Mars.

While NASA practices outright suppression and alterations of their images, The ESA is playing games with their TIFF images. The ESA is mixing confusion tactics with legitimate disclosure.

Until someone from the ESA/Mars Express can explain their TIFF images, My initial conclusion of their TIFF images of Cydonia, Hebes Chasma, and Nepenthes Mensae regions will be unchanged...These images are FALSE. These TIFF images should not be used for any reason.
KS15
A few images from Cydonia.

This first image is enlarged 1.20X. North is to the right. Note large flat mesa.
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Object A is a equilateral triangular structure. The sides are approx. 1500 feet long. Note bright objects at the vertices or tips of the Triangle.
This is a large bright symmetrical structure. It is difficult to find a natural explanation for this structure. Note Areas B, D, and C.
Also note areas F and G. Structure F seems to be an animal zoomorph.

Second image processed for color and contrast. Filtered for noise.
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Enlarged 1.40X
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Enlarged 1.70X
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/CYD74.jpg

Same image. No enlargement.
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/CYD40b.jpg

Another view.
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/CYD63.jpg

Finally, A MRO image of the same region. This image only shows the large feature-less flat mesa.
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This image is a reduced crop of the full size grayscale image. Image is rotated 90Deg.
CCW.

Link:
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_007638_2210

A link for the Cydonia thumbnail image page:
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/apotelesmata...p;submit=Search

Source Image:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=4&size=b
KS15
More Cydonia images.

A few images of the "Face".

This first image has areas of interest marked.
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Area A is a "Dragon" figure. Look for the eyes. There is also a nose, horns. This dragon seems to be biting down on a humanoid figure.
Note legs B and C. The left leg B is blue. The right leg C is yellow. Area D is a highly reflective area. Above D is another facial figure.
Note "Crater" E. Structure F is a symmetrical square "Building". Structure G is a straight linear "Wall".

No markings.
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Minimally processed.
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Enlarged:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydo...ages/CYD130.jpg

Another view (Large 1MB image)
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydo...ages/CYD123.jpg

Overview:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydo...ages/CYD129.jpg

Source Images:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...=y&start=10
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...e=y&start=4
KS15
The ever changing Face. A photographic history.

This first image is a Malin Space Science Systems image of the Face. This image was taken by the Mars Global Surveyor orbiter in 1998.
All the news networks shown this image telling everyone it’s just a hill. Stated resolution……14.1 Feet per pixel(?!).
If you read the source link, You will discover this image was taken under less than ideal conditions. Low Sun angle and poor weather conditions.
Resolution is only one of many factors.
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Source link:
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/4_6_98_face_release/

A second MGS image taken in 2001 (Reduced). Stated resolution - 6.6 feet per pixel.
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Source link:
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/extended_may2001/face/

A NASA/MRO image (Reduced) taken in 2007. Stated resolution - 3.0 feet per pixel.
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The Face shown upside down.
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Source link:
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003234_2210

A couple of ludicrous Mars Express 3D versions. Down right silly. The second image is rotated 180 degrees.
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Two ESA/Mars Express images taken in 2006. Resolution - 45 feet per pixel. Of course, These images are cropped, rotated, and processed.
The Mars Express images are in color. I am taking full advantage of this fact.
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Another view
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Face/D17.jpg
Source Link:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...=y&start=10

A comparison of the NASA/MRO (Left) and ESA/Mars Express (Right) images.
The MRO version is reduced. The Mars Express version processed.
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Another view:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydo...Images/C63a.jpg

Two different space agencies with two different versions of the Face.

This difference has nothing to do with resolution. This difference exceeds any factors due to resolution differences.

Website:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html

KS15
Images of Echus Chasma. Stated resolution - 17 meters/pixel.

Note all the green in these images…..Maybe some form of algae or moss…..
These images remind of the American south west….Desert, shrubs, and cactus.

These images are crops from the TIFF image.

First image has no enlargement. Areas of interest marked. This is a large image.
Link only.
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Echus_Chasma/ECH20.jpg

Left arrow points to a reptilian figure head. Right Arrow - A dwelling or house?
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This next image has areas of interest marked A thru D
Arrow A points to the reptilian figure head. B is the “House”. Note highly reflective surface on the left side. Note flat circular enclosure (Deck?) surrounding this dwelling.
C points to a flat triangular side. Smaller arrows point to the border of this structure. D is a facial profile. The mouth seems to be an opening.
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Another view
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Full size JPEG (1.2MB):
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Echu...sChasma_H2A.jpg

This JPEG(Large 5MB image) is derived from the TIFF image.
Finally, A honest TIFF image to work from. Look for the “Ranch” in the center of this image.
In fact, Almost dead center…A bulls eye. If anything, This image does a better job showing the “Ranch”.

http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Echus_Chasma/ECH18.jpg

I sure would like to see either a Mars Express/SRC image (7.5 meters/pixel) or a MRO image (Less than 1 meter/pixel) of this area.

Source Image
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM4CATHKHF_0.html
SkepticalEd
It is amazing to me that this topic is still alive and going on 22 pages! Now THAT's a waste of bandwidth! Human proclivity for exaggeration is alive and well here. No doubt we are and have been shown very interesting photos showing the Martian landscape. But no one anywhere, NASA or here, can make definite identifications of anything seen in the photos. Speculation is all that can be accomplished. No matter how nice the computer enhancements, no matter how many colors are added, the "face" is nothing more than a natural formation. And "Cydonia"? Just a good laugh from your ol' friend at the Enterprise Mission.

S.E.

Wookietim
QUOTE (KS15 @ Jan 12 2008, 06:04 PM) *
Hello. I have some images to share. Please click on the links below.
Thanks


http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html

http://www.marsesa.9f.com

Source Image:

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsex...2-Cydonia_H.jpg


Are the arrows supposed to be pointing to anything in paerticular or are they just placed randomly? I can't tell...
Oderint
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Jan 13 2008, 02:12 AM) *
Skull?
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Obvious stormtrooper helmet. proof that Star Wars is real and George Lucas was God, until he fell from grace by making Ep. 1 rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (KS15 @ Apr 11 2008, 07:13 PM) *
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Yeah, it's CLEARLY the spine, shoulderblade and scull of a dead giant soldier lying on his stomach.

Imagination is a good thing yes.gif
KS15
Four more Echus Chasma images.

I used a better enlargement program called Genuine Fractals 5. Something a little better than the standard Bicubic Interpolation method. This method has a tendency to round sharp edges.

The quality of the original TIFF is quite good. Normally, The original Mars Express images are on the noisy side making GF5 useless. Genuine Fractals 5 is really meant for high quality noise free photos.

This first image is our reptilian figure head A and the “House” B. Note highly reflective surface on the left side of this “House”.
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A second image.
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Two more…..
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Echus_Chasma/ECH37.jpg

http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Echus_Chasma/ECH35.jpg

Source Image:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...e=y&start=3

Website:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html

KS15
A nice image of Noctis Labyrinthus. Natural geology and nothing else. Not much different than the original image.

It took 1 minute using Adobe Photoshop CS3 to adjust contrast, color balance, and saturation. These colors already present in the original image.
This Auto Color function is really an advance form of contrast adjustment….Nothing to do with color at all.

Link:
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Noctis_L...nthus_H1_KS.jpg

Original image:
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsex...yrinthus_H1.jpg

Link:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...e=y&start=1

Oderint
I just gotta ask, do you actually sit and study every mars image with a magnifying glass to see if you can find a pattern that may in some way look just a little bit like something "unnatural"?
KS15
This post will give some insight on the color of my images. The color is already present in the Mars Express originals.
The colors in the original source image reflect what is capture on the surface of Mars.

I have come to the definite conclusion the original Mars Express HRSC images are unadjusted.

This means the respective color RGB filters are separated from each other. The Red filter is centered at 750 nm, Green filter centered at 530 nm, and the Blue filter at 440 nm.
Three out of the nine CCD imaging lines have separate individual filters.

The individual RGB histograms (A graph showing the curves of the filters) show just that.Red is at the right, Green in the middle, and Blue at the right.

Because they are separated, An image will look like this:
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The goal is to add or merge each filter with its respective color information together. Using Adobe Photoshop CS3, I paid more attention to the individual RGB histograms.
By adding or merging the individual R,G,B channels, I am fully utilizing the capabilities of the HRSC camera. The result is this image:
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The human Eye works the same way. The human eye has three separate color sensitive detectors called S, M, and L cones.
Basically, Without going into details, Each cone is sensitive to Blue, Green, and Red (Actually, Each cone slightly overlaps each other).
The brain takes this information and combines them to a color image.

This next image is the Visible Spectrum
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Individual ranges (Colors detectable to the Eye):

Violet 380 - 450 nm
Blue 450 - 495 nm
Green 495 - 570 nm
Yellow 570 - 590 nm
Orange 590 - 620 nm
Red 620 - 750 nm

The Color range of the HRSC (After combining the three color filter information):

Violet to Yellow 395nm - 575nm Peak wavelengths at 440nm (Blue) and 530nm (Green)
Red 730nm - 770nm Peak wavelength at 750 nm

The HRSC individual filter ranges:

Blue filter: 395 - 485 nm (440nm +-45nm)
Green filter 485 - 575 nm (530nm +-45nm)
Red filter 730 - 770 nm (750nm +-20nm)

All these numbers show how close the eye and the HRSC compare. With the exception of Orange, and a limited range of Yellow and Red,
Most of the color information is detectable by the HRSC.

The truth is all the HRSC images on the ESA/Mars Express website should be corrected.

A link to my website comparing the processed and un-processed images:

http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?...opilot_running=

ESA/Mars Express website:

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/index.html
KS15
This is a second part of my previous post.

Two Adobe Photoshop CS3 screenshots.

This first screenshot shows an image before processing. Note RGB color histogram top right. Note gray area of this histogram.
As you can see, The three RGB filters are separated. So far, every Mars Express image has similar RGB color histograms.
It should be noted the NASA/MRO RGB images are the same way…..The individual RGB filters are separated from each other.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Image_Pr.../ADOBECS3_A.jpg

This next screenshot shows an image after processing. All three color RGB filters are now combined. Note gray area.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Image_Pr...ADOBECS3_C1.jpg

We see the same way. The Brain receives the individual RGB color information from the Eye and combines them into a color image.

The HRSC is the "Eye" and Adobe Photoshop CS3 is the "Brain".

The question remains....Are these color corrected images comparable to the Eye?...Will we see the same colorful image?

Answer: No...Not from an altitude of 180 miles. If we were to visually view the "Face" from a distance say 1,000 feet, We will see colors comparable to the HRSC.
Because the HRSC color range is limited (See my last post), We will not see colors exactly the same way as the HRSC.

A good camera is always made better than the eye. Bigger lenses for more light gathering power (Brighter images) and higher resolving power,
More efficient detector (CCD's 80% versus the eye's 10%). After all, Why build an instrument with all the inefficiencies of the Eye.

True colors. The colors in the original source image reflect what is capture on the surface.
As far as "True" colors, These color corrected, contrast enhanced images are true for the Mars Express camera. A more sensitive, more efficient detector than the Eye.

A correction of my last post...

The sentence: "The individual RGB histograms (A graph showing the curves of the filters) show just that. Red is at the right, Green in the middle, and Blue at the right."

should read "The individual RGB histograms (A graph showing the curves of the filters) show just that. Red is at the right, Green in the middle, and Blue at the LEFT."
KS15
The following images reveal the purpose of the Face. Two halves, Right and left, upon reflection create two separate portraits.

There are designs surrounding the Face. This complex graphic design extends tens of square miles out in to the plains.

I paid more attention to the RGB histograms. While not the best, I consider these images better than my previous images.

The original Mars Express images of Cydonia are noisy. This noise, maybe added deliberately, made processing difficult. Better source images are needed, either from NASA/MRO or Mars Express.

First image is the Face.
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http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Face/CYD336.jpg

Rotated 57.5 degrees.
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http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Face/CYD335N.jpg

The left half reflected. The shaped eyebrows reveal a portrait of a woman. I am theorizing she is wearing a face mask. Note symbols on the forehead and chin.
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http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Face/CYD335L.jpg

The right half reflected. Portrait of a Lion.
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http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Face/CYD335M.jpg

It was mention there are no lions on Mars. There are Lions on Earth. Lions have existed on Earth for several hundred thousand years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions

A prior advance civilization on Earth, capable of space travel, could have built a structure such as the Face.

Thumbnail Link:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?...opilot_running=

Source image:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...t=10&size=b




KS15
Mars Express images of Phobos.

A few observations.

A. The image is B&W. Very stingy. I am sure there is a RGB color image.

B. The image is noisy. I had to “Despeckle” the image.

C. Image has low contrast. Fixed that too.

I have looked at other Mars Express versions of Phobos. The quality can be improved.

This first image is a reduced version. No processing.
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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos5.gif

A quote “This image has been geometrically corrected and exhibits the original illumination and photometric conditions.”

Even if this was true, This next image reveals the capabilities of the HRSC. If an image can be improved on, This image should be shown in the best quality.
As far as a geometrically corrected image, North is still to the LEFT (Sometimes to the right in other images of Mars). There is a reason for this orientation.

Processed……
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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos6.gif

A full size image.
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos3.jpg

Another quote; “This image is photometrically enhanced to bring out the features in the less illuminated part.”

The source images in question:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=1&size=b
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsex...os-Flyby_H1.jpg

Again, This photometrically enhanced image is still not of a good quality. They can do better. I took the initiative to improve on the Mars Express image of Phobos.

A link to my thumbnail page.
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show...opilot_running=

Finally, I have found three areas of interest. Note A, B, and C. Definitely B. Note bright rectangular object.
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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos17.jpg

It is Interesting to find these "Objects" near his name.....Lower left hand corner....I have seen this with other images....Hebes Chasma for example

A Hebes Chasma image with the same theme....Artificial stuff near his name.....Note areas A, B, and E.
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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Hebes_Ch...mages/HEB11.jpg

Phobos source images:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=4&size=b
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=1&size=b
KS15
Hello all.

It has been awhile since the ESA/Mars Express last posted an image. The last one was an image of Echus Chasma taken on July 14. An interesting image to say the least.

I am waiting patiently for the next image

I have been taking a good look at the Pyramid.

This feature is buried in Sun glare. It was a struggle to reduce glare while preserving detail..... I find it curious they (ESA/Mars Express) took this image just the right time of day.
If this image was taken at any other time, This "face" would of been visible.

This object has a similar theme...Dual portraits like the Face. You may have to study this image before it is recognized. I will be working on improving this image.

The first two images are for comparison.

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD188.jpg

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD254A.jpg

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD326A.jpg

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD410A.jpg

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD259A.jpg

KS15
Hello all.

I was able to mirror both sides of this “Face”. The quality is not the greatest due to the Sun’s glare.

The colors are close to true. Colors capture by the HRSC RGB filters even if limited. I originally thought these colors was a result of noise or chromatic effects.
Chromatic effects cause by the Sun’s glare.

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD410D.jpg

Another image....There was a slight error on the mirrored left half....Both halfs are a bit closer....I also used a "Diffused Filter".....

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http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD410EE.jpg

Source image:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...t=10&size=b

Website:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html
Dravenguild
I believe that there might have been life on mars that would be the equivalent of ancient egyptians or another such culture that worshipped a sky diety, and such. a lot of those photos may be the testament of mars culture to the gods, who can say? our pyramids are lasting a long time.

If we all just blindly accpected things for how they are "there is no god" "No life other than us" "Santa claus is real" who's to make discoveries that may be in front of our noses but we were taught such narrowminded logic that we ignore life's great mysteries?

That would be a horrible mindset.
KS15
Hello Dravenguild.

A mindset for you……”If there are ruins on Mars, They will tell us”…

They are telling us….But not in the way we think. They are releasing images without any other explanation except a geologic one.
However, If one takes a closer look, There is something more. Of course, Not every Mars Express image reveals a “Disclosure event”.

Look at the ID numbers of the Cydonia source images……

SEMVHE8LURE
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...e=y&start=4

SEM6IE8LURE
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...=y&start=10

These source images are “Uncorrected”. I have to process them to bring out colors that are detectable by the HRSC…..

Before
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_...URE/CYDSS1B.jpg

After….
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_...URE/CYDSS2A.jpg

A definition of Lure:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lure

Lure is simply to attract….Not necessarily a negative term….

So far, The ESA/Mars Express is the only space agency releasing images of disclosure.

The US space agency, NASA, have not released anything comparable to Mars Express.

I can only speculate why there is a big difference between NASA and the ESA.

Here is an example of this difference.

A NASA/JPL/HiRise/University of Arizona image of Cydonia.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_...7638_2210_A.gif

Here is a ESA/Mars Express image of the same region. Of course, This is a section of the original source.
Processed for color. Arrows point areas of interest. Note A, B, and C.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/CYD324.jpg










DONTEATUS
Its just makes the mind hurt thinking about what some people can make out of a pic. Didnt some one a few million post ago do this? And the BEat goes On!
KS15
Hello all.

I did some thinking…..well not too much thinking. …..What I am about too say will be a bit harsh…Maybe…If anything, A harmless unload (Hopefully!)…..I debated and debated….Should I keep this idea too myself or not???

This idea has been on my mind for some time now……..

I have this plan and it goes something like this….

Outline form….

A. Assemble or recruit imaging experts, artists, open minded scientists, etc. This group will do a super professional job of all my images on my website.
Really enhance them to a high degree of quality. This group will work with the source images of both NASA and the ESA.

B. Assemble or recruit Lawyers, Legal professionals.

C. Combine both A and B and build a very strong legal case. A case that involves both circumstantial and imaging evidence involving certain realities of Mars concerning NASA and the ESA.

D. Begin to subpoena both NASA and the ESA. A process that will start dragging people of both agencies into a court of law…..This means Directors and Principle Scientists.
Handcuffs and police escort if necessary. If that what it takes, So be it. All the centers will be searched, computers will be confiscated, all images will be released.
The doors of both space agencies will be wide open to the public….I am talking open house for the ESA, NASA, and JPL….Everything will be accessible….No more secrets or games of any kind……

I was going to list names….However, I decided to hold off for now….

Quite frankly, I am fed up with the games that both agencies play. When I say agencies, I mean people who work for these agencies. They are not some high and mighty untouchable organizations.

The driving force for this post is this image:

http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Pyramid/CYD410EE.jpg

For me, this one beats all. A hidden piece of artwork that is designed. A nice piece involving colors. Never mind if true colors or not…..irrelevant…Color is still color……Blue, Green, Yellow…..Who cares…..

This image is not an illusion. You are seeing correctly…No more of this nonsense concerning resolution.

When I first began to reveal what’s under all that glare a few days ago, I said to myself;

“That is it…I have had it. No more stupid games”.

If this image was taken at any other time, maybe a few hours before or after, this artwork would have been immediately visible and easily accessible.

The people in charge of these so called space agencies should be ashamed of themselves.
KS15
Hello.

Did some more thinking....Something is not right. Hard to explain. In the Mars Express images, I see evidence of intelligent activity (Former?).

There is a damaged Pyramid with a debris field.

I can see carvings or artwork in the vicinity.

I can see girders or structural material.

I can see at least two exposed chambers or rooms.

One is an exposed two level chamber. The other is large single level round chamber.

Just above the two level exposed chamber, I also see a face with tongue sticking out...near the apex of the pyramid...

I can see a "Dragon Head" with stylized figure head on top. This figure head (Human?) seems to be in anguish. I can see a vertical 'Exhaust pipe" just above this "Dragons Head".
There is dark black eye on the left side of the "Dragon Head".

I can see a carving of a grinning face. Almost mischievous in nature.

I can see a structure or carving of a figure head wearing a crystal crown...reminds me of an infants (Human?) or babies head.

Not to far away,....to the upper right..... There is a face observing this infant wearing a crystal crown...ever so watchful..very symbolic.

I can see a figure wearing an elaborate head dress; Just to the left of the infant/crystal crown structure.

I can see a damaged cat/mouse (or some kind of rodent) artwork; this "rodent" is in the mouth of the cat.

I can see a round torus with a support attached; laying on its side.

I can even see a stylized face with a smile.

I can see a face with an eye wide open. staring up into the sky..

At one corner of the pyramid, I can see a rhombus shape structure....looks like a massive single solid piece structure.

A few days ago, I discovered this face....I had to remove the glare to see it. When mirrored, there are two faces.

I can see two doors at one corner of the pyramid...Also very large (upper left hand corner).

I could go on and on....This is only the Pyramid.

I have not found one decent intelligent response that points out a single previously mention item....Anywhere, Not just this forum.

Are people afraid of what they see???...Fear is block in understanding????

I am not afraid...I like what I see....I want to explore more...I demand better images......
KS15
A couple of Mangala Fossae images.

Source image:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=1&size=b

Nothing too spectacular. I was debating for awhile if this was even worth posting. But, I decided to post anyway.

Some people will see..some will not.

It should be understood all Mars Express images (MRO as well) are TIMED. These images are not some random snapshots.Like a bus tourist taking pictures of passing scenery. I am sure people already know this.

The Sun's angle in the sky, time, and spacecraft angle are all calculated in advance before an image is acquired.

I also come to realize multiple reconnaissance images are taken first. What this means there are other Mars Express images of Mangala Fossae not available to the public ( This applies to the scientific community as well).

This Mars Express image of Mangala Fossae is timed to hide any artificial structures. Timed in such a way so any structures are hidden by shadows.

I would like to see an image of Mangala Fossae with NO shadows or very little shadow (Sometimes, shadows do help in revealing detail - shadows are not always a disadvantage).

Because of the difficulty in processing, the quality is not the greatest. These images are my beginning or early attempts. I will be experimenting in various processing techniques in order to improve quality.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_Fossae_/MF300A.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_Fossae_/MF510A.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_Fossae_/MF600A.jpg

I used an "Embossed" filter on two of the "Artworks".
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_Fossae_/MF510B.jpg

A link to my thumbnail page. Images are shown ½ size.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show...opilot_running=

Also, their TIFF image is useless. The quality is poor as compared to the JPEG. Both TIFF and JPEG images should be identical. Sometimes, they are identical.

For example, a Mars Express image of Tithonium Chasma. The visual quality of both the TIFF and JPEG are identical...As they should be.

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsex...hasma_Hires.jpg

A couple images showing two pieces of "Artwork". As with the Mangala Fossae image, objects of interest are hidden in shadows. The Tithonium Chasma shadow is not as dark. I can easily identify and process areas of interest.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Tithoniu...asma/TITH15.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Tithoniu...asma/TITH11.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Tithoniu...asma/TITH25.jpg

In any case, both Tithonium Chasma and the Mangala Fossae images are just minor interests.

Source image:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...e=y&start=1

Website:
http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html
Captain Zim
After viewing these images, I'm actually less inclined to think of these structures as being artificial. On the contrary, the higher resolution shows them to be almost certainly natural in origin.

The main reasons for these are the way debris flows off of these structures. A heavily eroded artificial structure, such as the Great Pyramids of Giza here on Earth, will have material removed (and in this case largely by human action) and windborne dust piled against it.

On Mars there's much less in the way of dust and more rock, with little to erode it. The so-called Pyramids, although seemingly more angular on Earth, are in fact this way because there's not (or was not) enough liquid water to eat into irregularities and enhance them. Hence they appear straight, because of crystalline rock fracture lines.

In the cases of the 5-sided Pyramid that you present, there's a significant amount of rocky debris on the SE face. I would also expect the peak to be the most heavily eroded, but in fact it appears there are *two* peaks. Study of other similar Martian landforms will also reveal a whole host of "pyramid" style hills and mountains, most likely a hard rock intrusion of something like granite.

What I would look for is not faces that jump out from the terrain, but mathematically significant arrangments and of course, straight lines.
KS15
Hello Captain Zim.

After reading your post, I am under two impressions….

A - Your not really looking

B - Your are grasping at other “Possible” explanations. After all, It just can’t be….Right???

They certainly will tell us if there is any type of artificial anything........(Maybe later?)

“After viewing these images, I'm actually less inclined to think of these structures as being artificial. On the contrary, the higher resolution shows them to be almost certainly natural in origin”

Higher resolution???…I hope your not referring NASA?

A link to an earlier post

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2390733

“On Mars there's much less in the way of dust and more rock, with little to erode it. The so-called Pyramids, although seemingly more angular on Earth, are in fact this way because there's not (or was not) enough liquid water to eat into irregularities and enhance them. Hence they appear straight, because of crystalline rock fracture lines.

In the cases of the 5-sided Pyramid that you present, there's a significant amount of rocky debris on the SE face. I would also expect the peak to be the most heavily eroded, but in fact it appears there are *two* peaks. Study of other similar Martian landforms will also reveal a whole host of "pyramid" style hills and mountains, most likely a hard rock intrusion of something like granite.”

Your are seeking a natural explanation……At least you have recognize the pyramid as 5 sided…..I never said this pyramid has a “central peak”…Actually, it is flat and long…..A necessary support for a massive construct.

“What I would look for is not faces that jump out from the terrain, but mathematically significant arrangments and of course, straight lines. “

This statement is an assumption of how intelligence should behave…..According to our definition.

How about artwork or faces?……One never knows…..





Captain Zim
QUOTE (KS15 @ Oct 2 2008, 03:44 PM) *
Hello Captain Zim.

After reading your post, I am under two impressions….

A - Your not really looking

B - Your are grasping at other “Possible” explanations. After all, It just can’t be….Right???


C - I'm being nonjudgemental. Just because I see faces in clouds doesn't mean a big magic man in the sky made them.

QUOTE
:“What I would look for is not faces that jump out from the terrain, but mathematically significant arrangments and of course, straight lines. “

This statement is an assumption of how intelligence should behave…..According to our definition.

How about artwork or faces?……One never knows…..


A race that just happens to build humanoid faces vs. the shortest distance between two points - a line. The number of straight lines we have created on Earth far outnumbers the number of big carved rock faces.

Carving things in rock is a good way to leave a message for future generations, intentionally or accidentally. However on Mars I see nothing but a lot of natural erosion going on. I would look for levelling of terrain, soil spoil and slag piles, depressions, etc. Cities would be long buried or erased completely.
KS15
Hello all.

Another Mangala Fossae image. This image is shown at ½ size. Click on the link for a full image.

linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_...e_/MANG104A.jpg

I am experimenting with different filters. Some improvement.

Note areas A thru E. “Artworks A thru D are sharpen (High-Pass filtering) just a little to much. Should of smoothed them out slightly….Similar to E.

Note “A“…There is a left EYE. An eye with a pupil. Of course, there is a right eye as well. This artwork is a combination of features.

Over all, I am pleased with the results.

The entire shadowed area is a collage of designs and artwork. I detect line as well as portrait artwork.

As I said before, this Mars Express image is strategically timed.

It is possible if this image was taken at “High Noon”, I would have a harder time processing this image. This shadow actually helps. I can’t be sure…I need more images with different lighting angles.

Link to my thumbnail page. Images are shown ½ size.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show...opilot_running=


TransparentReality
I always thought this was a very interesting photo cool.gif

Peace from Mars




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ShaunZero
To the pictures that require squinting: Do you people actually believe you'll be able to look through many pictures of mars and it's landscapes, and expect NOT to find images that remind you of something on Earth? I mean come on, people! It's the same thing as staring at clouds untill you make out a certain object from it's formations.
RFB147
QUOTE (KS15 @ Jul 31 2008, 08:54 AM) *
Mars Express images of Phobos.

A few observations.

A. The image is B&W. Very stingy. I am sure there is a RGB color image.

B. The image is noisy. I had to “Despeckle” the image.

C. Image has low contrast. Fixed that too.

I have looked at other Mars Express versions of Phobos. The quality can be improved.

This first image is a reduced version. No processing.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos5.gif

A quote “This image has been geometrically corrected and exhibits the original illumination and photometric conditions.”

Even if this was true, This next image reveals the capabilities of the HRSC. If an image can be improved on, This image should be shown in the best quality.
As far as a geometrically corrected image, North is still to the LEFT (Sometimes to the right in other images of Mars). There is a reason for this orientation.

Processed……
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos6.gif

A full size image.
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos3.jpg

Another quote; “This image is photometrically enhanced to bring out the features in the less illuminated part.”

The source images in question:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=1&size=b
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsex...os-Flyby_H1.jpg

Again, This photometrically enhanced image is still not of a good quality. They can do better. I took the initiative to improve on the Mars Express image of Phobos.

A link to my thumbnail page.
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show...opilot_running=

Finally, I have found three areas of interest. Note A, B, and C. Definitely B. Note bright rectangular object.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Phobos/Phobos17.jpg

It is Interesting to find these "Objects" near his name.....Lower left hand corner....I have seen this with other images....Hebes Chasma for example

A Hebes Chasma image with the same theme....Artificial stuff near his name.....Note areas A, B, and E.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Hebes_Ch...mages/HEB11.jpg

Phobos source images:
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=4&size=b
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=1&size=b


Hello KenS...and all here at the UM.

The most interesting feature in the Phobos pictures are the horizontal "scratch" like lines. Wonder how those got there.

Cheers!!!
KS15
Hello.

One more Mangala Fossae image.

linked-image

Note areas A thru F. Object A - There is a definite left Eye with a pupil. There is also a right eye and a mouth. Also note colors - The Mars Express camera is a color camera. Object D - A partial “Face”. There is an eye and a mouth with a single tooth.

It is important to note the direction. North is to the RIGHT. This means the “Artwork” is facing East - The direction of the rising Sun.

In most mapped images, North is shown at the top and south towards the bottom. A normal compass orientation.

The Mars Express principle scientists are displaying most of their images with this particular direction. Reason - to correctly show evidence of intelligent designs. Whoever constructed these designs, the direction East was an important factor ( I am assuming ruins at this time).

All images on my website has this direction - North is shown to the right. The source images are shown with North to the right.

Thumbnail link. Images are shown one-half size.

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show...opilot_running=

Source image:

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMB4QQ4KKF_0.html

http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&...rt=1&size=b

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsex...laFossae_H1.jpg
KS15
A couple more images.

I used a filter called "Plastic Wrap". I have also used an "Embossed Filter" on other images. These are the ONLY artistic filters I haved used. Most of the time, I only used basic noise filtering, sharpening, contrast, and color balance processing.

Note "D". There are two portraits shown. The right portrait is a definite face. Note eye, mouth. The mouth has a single tooth.

Areas A, B, C, E have the "Plastic Wrap" filter applied. You will notice faint lines tracing out the contours.
linked-image

I have use the "Plastic Wrap" filter on the entire image. The goal is to increase overall contrast.
linked-image
KS15
Hello all.

A full Mangala Fossae image…..Color corrected. This means the individual RGB histograms have been “Equalized”. Each RGB filter tonal/contrast ranges are the same.
This image is shown ¼ size. Click on the link for a full size image.

linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_...sae_H1_K500.jpg

Is it a true color image?…probably not. The posted ESA/Mars Express image is not a “True Color” image either. So, both images are scientifically valid.
Both images have disadvantages and advantages. Someday, maybe the next mission, true color calibrated images of Mars will be a reality.

Source image for comparison - ¼ size:

linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Mangala_...ssae_H1K200.jpg

ESA/Mars Express website:

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/index.html


KS15
A Mayan primer.

I have an interest in the Maya civilization. Study them a lot. Archaeologists are making new discoveries all the time.

By studying Maya art and writing, It should help to identify certain Mars Express “objects”.

You can even say Maya art, writing, and even mathematics as “organic” in style. For example, the Maya numerical system is base 20 instead of base 10 - Our current system.

The basic problem is conditioning. We are so used to rectangular, square, and linear stuff (college/high school geometry, cities with rectangular buildings and streets set up as grids), we forget there are other systems of relating to the world around you.

The Maya is one example. Egyptian is another culture. Of course, there are other Mesoamerican examples.

I took the liberty of downloading some images and enhanced them with Adobe PhotoShop CS3. The originals are on the dull side.

These images are from the Mayan site of Copan.

There are “Faces” on this Stela. Besides the obvious ones, look for the smaller minor faces.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/COPAN104.png

The Hieroglyphic Stairway.
linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/COPAN105.png

Two more stelae:

linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/COPAN106.png

linked-image
http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/COPAN107.png

Quirigua stelae:

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/QUIR100.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/QUIR102.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/QUIR101.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/QUIR103.jpg

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Maya/QUIR104.jpg

My thumbnail page:

http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show...opilot_running=

Sources:

http://mayaruins.com/yucmap.html

http://mayamiscellany.blogspot.com/2008/02/copan.html
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