http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15036652/detail.html
BOULDER, Colo. -- Charges are expected for a man accused of killing a kitten by beating its head against a bookcase after it chewed through his wife's oxygen tubes.
Charles Kenneth Corwin turned himself in on Thursday, on a felony arrest warrant for aggravated cruelty to animals, reported the Daily Camera.
On Friday, Boulder police arrested Corwin's son, Charles Corwin Jr., after police said Charles Jr. was threatening his father with a knife.
His father told deputies his son was angry with him because he had killed one of the family's pets, the Camera reported. He said the cat chewed through his wife's oxygen tank tubing after she had just been released from the hospital.
Two days later, Corwin Jr. came home, after bonding out of jail, and shot himself to death in the bathroom, police said.
When officers arrived at the home the second time, they learned about the alleged feline abuse.
An arrest affidavit said Charles Corwin told police he thought about strangling one of the cats but figured that would take too long.
His son came out of the room and demanded to know which kitten had been killed, and then threatened his father with the knife, police said.
Aggravated cruelty to animals can be punishable up to three years in prison and a $100,000 fine and anger-management classes.
Full Version: this left me speechless...
That is one screwed up family... I thought my family was full of idiots... He killed the cat... I can understand smacking it with a newpaper... but killing? and he threatened his father with a knife over a cat that could of killed his mom WTF? then shot himself? I wanna go back in time and kill him!
totally insane 
That's what happens when communication and reasoning is totally out of the picture. Morons.
Now instead of these idiots being there for the ailing mother, they are dead or in jail. MORONS
Now instead of these idiots being there for the ailing mother, they are dead or in jail. MORONS
The clear lesson to be learned here is to not kill kittens near children with anger problems.
QUOTE (Sama @ Jan 14 2008, 01:14 AM) 
totally insane
I agree, and thats putting it mildly!
Why did the son kill himself? I would think he would have been more distraught about the cat chewing threw his mum's oxygen line! But hey some people are just plain WIERD!
Cats will chew through anything. If this family had used a little logic and kept the animal away from the mother it wouldn't have happened. But no people must blame their pets for their own stupid mistakes.
Highly absurd.
Speechless.........indeed 
I would think the son was suicidal due to living in a home with a man who can beat a kitten to death. Can you imagine living in this type of environment? I agree with the poster about keeping the animal away from the mother, it's an animal who does what is natural and shouldn't be punished b/c the people it lives with are lazy or careless. I will keep in mind to always have two tubes in that situation if it should happen, my kitten means that much to me.
That's horrible, I'm curious as to how old Charles Jr was?
Edit: on another news report about this case, I came across this.
Corwin was arrested by Fort Lupton police in 1998 on suspicion of driving under the influence, child cruelty and a traffic offense, according to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
I would imagine that boy had a really bad childhood and was a ticking time-bomb.
Edit: on another news report about this case, I came across this.
Corwin was arrested by Fort Lupton police in 1998 on suspicion of driving under the influence, child cruelty and a traffic offense, according to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
I would imagine that boy had a really bad childhood and was a ticking time-bomb.
poor kitty..
Im glad the old guy found a quicker way for the poor kitten to die instead of a slower. It at least sounds like he just wanted the kitten dead, but not to torture it. Poor little kitten.
^
you wouldn't consider repeatedly bashing a cat's head into a bookcase torture? I imagine it would be a very painful way to go.
you wouldn't consider repeatedly bashing a cat's head into a bookcase torture? I imagine it would be a very painful way to go.
Yes my statement is ambiguous but you know what i meant.
If the kitten didn't kill the mom, WHY did he kill the kitten!?@!?@!@?!@!
as for the kid shooting himself.. Why? o_o Because the kitten died?
Then again, I think I'd be more sad if my cat died then my dad so...
<.< Nah im kiddin. But, still.. ._. Poor kitty
...
How old was the boy?
as for the kid shooting himself.. Why? o_o Because the kitten died?
Then again, I think I'd be more sad if my cat died then my dad so...
<.< Nah im kiddin. But, still.. ._. Poor kitty
... How old was the boy?
I said it once and i will say it again stupid should be painful!
one of those back breaking straws
Wow ,I dont have the words for this.Insane just plain insane,wonder what that family is going through?Can do nothing but feel their pain.
That dude was an idiot.
Ok, let me get this straight...
1) Man beats kitten due to the kitten chewing on the lines and kitten dies
2) Son threatens Father with knife and gets arrested
3) After being released son kills himself
Am I missing something here? Was NO ONE looking after the Mother?
1) Man beats kitten due to the kitten chewing on the lines and kitten dies
2) Son threatens Father with knife and gets arrested
3) After being released son kills himself
Am I missing something here? Was NO ONE looking after the Mother?
No, that is actually a pretty quick way to go. Let's try to keep a little perspective here though. Painless is an unanswerable question.
Usually, the way we dispatch rabbits is a quick chop on the back of the head. For coyotes, the trappers stand on the chest to suffocate them. One guy I know can dispatch a coyote with one sharp kick with the toe of his boot to the snout. He said it took a lot of practice and ruined a few hides a long the way to learning it, (too much blood the first few times). Suffocating them takes too long and makes you feel guilty. I had an old aunt who when ready cook a chicken, just walked right up to it, grabbed the head and swing it around two or three times and toss it on the ground to flop around till dead. I always like to chop them off myself. Don't need to worry about bloodying up the hide so the quicker the better. It's always best to chop off a turtles head and hang it by the tail to bleed out as much as possible to enhance flavor. Let's see, what else. Hogs is a quick shot behind the ear, cows usually we go ahead and rack the back legs and lift it up and cut throat to bleed out, beavers we trap to drown, fish we gut and scale while live, frogs we just cut off the legs and toss the rest back in for the turtles and catfish, we call that catch and release frog gigging, (ah the circle of life).
When you don't buy much of your food already packaged, death assumes it's natural place in life. While the killing of the kitten is indeed troubling, and this guy sounds like an all around bad guy there are several other things to consider, chief among these is is the mothers safety worth less than the life of a kitten? Certainly not. Did the dad overreact as well as the son? Hell yes they did, some families are just mixed up. What do you do? Support eugenics? I don't know but I think pets, animals are easily replaceable. Wives, children, mother, not so much so.
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Usually, the way we dispatch rabbits is a quick chop on the back of the head. For coyotes, the trappers stand on the chest to suffocate them. One guy I know can dispatch a coyote with one sharp kick with the toe of his boot to the snout. He said it took a lot of practice and ruined a few hides a long the way to learning it, (too much blood the first few times). Suffocating them takes too long and makes you feel guilty. I had an old aunt who when ready cook a chicken, just walked right up to it, grabbed the head and swing it around two or three times and toss it on the ground to flop around till dead. I always like to chop them off myself. Don't need to worry about bloodying up the hide so the quicker the better. It's always best to chop off a turtles head and hang it by the tail to bleed out as much as possible to enhance flavor. Let's see, what else. Hogs is a quick shot behind the ear, cows usually we go ahead and rack the back legs and lift it up and cut throat to bleed out, beavers we trap to drown, fish we gut and scale while live, frogs we just cut off the legs and toss the rest back in for the turtles and catfish, we call that catch and release frog gigging, (ah the circle of life).
When you don't buy much of your food already packaged, death assumes it's natural place in life. While the killing of the kitten is indeed troubling, and this guy sounds like an all around bad guy there are several other things to consider, chief among these is is the mothers safety worth less than the life of a kitten? Certainly not. Did the dad overreact as well as the son? Hell yes they did, some families are just mixed up. What do you do? Support eugenics? I don't know but I think pets, animals are easily replaceable. Wives, children, mother, not so much so.
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QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:28 PM)
No, that is actually a pretty quick way to go. Let's try to keep a little perspective here though. Painless is an unanswerable question.
Usually, the way we dispatch rabbits is a quick chop on the back of the head. For coyotes, the trappers stand on the chest to suffocate them. One guy I know can dispatch a coyote with one sharp kick with the toe of his boot to the snout. He said it took a lot of practice and ruined a few hides a long the way to learning it, (too much blood the first few times). Suffocating them takes too long and makes you feel guilty. I had an old aunt who when ready cook a chicken, just walked right up to it, grabbed the head and swing it around two or three times and toss it on the ground to flop around till dead. I always like to chop them off myself. Don't need to worry about bloodying up the hide so the quicker the better. It's always best to chop off a turtles head and hang it by the tail to bleed out as much as possible to enhance flavor. Let's see, what else. Hogs is a quick shot behind the ear, cows usually we go ahead and rack the back legs and lift it up and cut throat to bleed out, beavers we trap to drown, fish we gut and scale while live, frogs we just cut off the legs and toss the rest back in for the turtles and catfish, we call that catch and release frog gigging, (ah the circle of life).
When you don't buy much of your food already packaged, death assumes it's natural place in life. While the killing of the kitten is indeed troubling, and this guy sounds like an all around bad guy there are several other things to consider, chief among these is is the mothers safety worth less than the life of a kitten? Certainly not. Did the dad overreact as well as the son? Hell yes they did, some families are just mixed up. What do you do? Support eugenics? I don't know but I think pets, animals are easily replaceable. Wives, children, mother, not so much so.
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Usually, the way we dispatch rabbits is a quick chop on the back of the head. For coyotes, the trappers stand on the chest to suffocate them. One guy I know can dispatch a coyote with one sharp kick with the toe of his boot to the snout. He said it took a lot of practice and ruined a few hides a long the way to learning it, (too much blood the first few times). Suffocating them takes too long and makes you feel guilty. I had an old aunt who when ready cook a chicken, just walked right up to it, grabbed the head and swing it around two or three times and toss it on the ground to flop around till dead. I always like to chop them off myself. Don't need to worry about bloodying up the hide so the quicker the better. It's always best to chop off a turtles head and hang it by the tail to bleed out as much as possible to enhance flavor. Let's see, what else. Hogs is a quick shot behind the ear, cows usually we go ahead and rack the back legs and lift it up and cut throat to bleed out, beavers we trap to drown, fish we gut and scale while live, frogs we just cut off the legs and toss the rest back in for the turtles and catfish, we call that catch and release frog gigging, (ah the circle of life).
When you don't buy much of your food already packaged, death assumes it's natural place in life. While the killing of the kitten is indeed troubling, and this guy sounds like an all around bad guy there are several other things to consider, chief among these is is the mothers safety worth less than the life of a kitten? Certainly not. Did the dad overreact as well as the son? Hell yes they did, some families are just mixed up. What do you do? Support eugenics? I don't know but I think pets, animals are easily replaceable. Wives, children, mother, not so much so.
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I am wondering why your post disturbed me as much as the initial article? If your a trapper/hunter whatever then you do not need to post the details man! You sound like a very cruel person, slitting throats, suffocating, kicking and my god what you do to frogs.... Things like this make me very angry, i DONT CARE if you hunt for your food, there are better and more humane ways of killing animals. I agree that family is irreplacable, but sometimes this goes for pets as well. Its people like you we need less of.
QUOTE (darrkmoonbride @ Jan 22 2008, 11:31 PM)
I am wondering why your post disturbed me as much as the initial article? If your a trapper/hunter whatever then you do not need to post the details man! You sound like a very cruel person, slitting throats, suffocating, kicking and my god what you do to frogs.... Things like this make me very angry, i DONT CARE if you hunt for your food, there are better and more humane ways of killing animals. I agree that family is irreplacable, but sometimes this goes for pets as well. Its people like you we need less of.
If man were reduced to self reliance tomorrow, people like you would be gone in a matter of months. I don't think it's gonna happen, but you never know.
Anyway, like I said just a little perspective. I think the whole OP is pretty sad. But if that kid had grown up on a farm with a little dose of reality, things probably would have ended differently for him. If you don't love your fellow man as much or more than animals what does that make you?
People like me? I am a real living breathing participant in nature. There is nothing more brutal than she. That cat, if noone were feeding it, would eat that woman's nose off if no one were there to stop it.
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And I suppose that the few seconds of pain, that my supper endures is somehow comparable to the miserable existence of all the creatures who live and die in cramped, mass production livestock facilities, in order to supply you with you Big Mac fries and a shake?
QUOTE (darrkmoonbride @ Jan 23 2008, 04:31 AM)
I am wondering why your post disturbed me as much as the initial article? If your a trapper/hunter whatever then you do not need to post the details man! You sound like a very cruel person, slitting throats, suffocating, kicking and my god what you do to frogs.... Things like this make me very angry, i DONT CARE if you hunt for your food, there are better and more humane ways of killing animals. I agree that family is irreplacable, but sometimes this goes for pets as well. Its people like you we need less of.
I have to agree with this post, that previous post was way too disturbing. NO ONE should harm an animal esp a domestic one. Bashing a kittens head against the wall, seemed to throw the poor son over the edge. The father is a maniac, abusive cruel POS..The so called father could have gotten another Oxygen tube very easily. People who hurt or kill animals, I think are just as capable as doing the same to humans. That poor son and poor kitten...JN
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 23 2008, 03:41 PM)
If man were reduced to self reliance tomorrow, people like you would be gone in a matter of months. I don't think it's gonna happen, but you never know.
Anyway, like I said just a little perspective. I think the whole OP is pretty sad. But if that kid had grown up on a farm with a little dose of reality, things probably would have ended differently for him. If you don't love your fellow man as much or more than animals what does that make you?
People like me? I am a real living breathing participant in nature. There is nothing more brutal than she. That cat, if noone were feeding it, would eat that woman's nose off if no one were there to stop it.
*edit* edited to add,
And I suppose that the few seconds of pain, that my supper endures is somehow comparable to the miserable existence of all the creatures who live and die in cramped, mass production livestock facilities, in order to supply you with you Big Mac fries and a shake?
Anyway, like I said just a little perspective. I think the whole OP is pretty sad. But if that kid had grown up on a farm with a little dose of reality, things probably would have ended differently for him. If you don't love your fellow man as much or more than animals what does that make you?
People like me? I am a real living breathing participant in nature. There is nothing more brutal than she. That cat, if noone were feeding it, would eat that woman's nose off if no one were there to stop it.
*edit* edited to add,
And I suppose that the few seconds of pain, that my supper endures is somehow comparable to the miserable existence of all the creatures who live and die in cramped, mass production livestock facilities, in order to supply you with you Big Mac fries and a shake?
People like me would be gone in a matter of months hey? I dont think so, i have no problem with killing for food, but only if its ABSOLUTLEY NESSECARY and i would make sure that the animals were quickly dealt with, no pain at all or very very minimal. No i dont love fellow man very much actually, with the exception of a select few that is, animals dont start wars, lie to you, etc.... So yeah what does that make me? And sorry i dont eat big macs, fries or shakes. I also dont buy anything from mass production livestock facilities, I buy direct from the farmer. I in no way support battery cages or any kind of animal torture. There is a limit to what should be done regarding "food" and how it is killed. The way that kitten was killed was torture, bashing, kicking, drowning any kind of being is barbaric. You said you are a real living breathing participant in nature? and there is no more brutal than she? try telling an animal activist or animal lover what YOU do to animals and see whos brutal then......
QUOTE (darrkmoonbride @ Jan 23 2008, 03:02 AM)
try telling an animal activist or animal lover what YOU do to animals and see whos brutal then......
This is pointless nonsense. I promise you were designed to eat meat. Why do you have canines if that is not so? You should really watch the discovery channel sometime. You seem to be ignorant of how the real world functions. Eat or die. If you would choose to die, so be it. As for the above quote, i don't fear terrorists of any sort, I choose not to be terrorized, so bring 'em on.
Oh yeah, I would be willing to wager that the reason you don't have much use for people, is because you have come to realize that because of your strange artificial views, other people don't have much use for you.
I think it is important to realize that without hundreds of millions of humans doing the things I described, you would not be here today. Enough said, wake up and hug your neighbor, people are beautiful creatures.
*edit* So tell us how you dispatch with the animals that you buyfrom the farm and bring home live?
Phortos1, i understand your position: I have killes viscachas hitting it whit a club in the head. But there is a diference. You and i tried to do it quickly, and later eat the animal and put its parts in use. This guys kill by a very idiotic reason (the women could not die for that for what the report say) and i a very painfull and unnecesary way for the animal.
There seems to be something very,very,very wrong in that family.
QUOTE (Porthos1 @ Jan 24 2008, 04:04 AM)
This is pointless nonsense. I promise you were designed to eat meat. Why do you have canines if that is not so? You should really watch the discovery channel sometime. You seem to be ignorant of how the real world functions. Eat or die. If you would choose to die, so be it. As for the above quote, i don't fear terrorists of any sort, I choose not to be terrorized, so bring 'em on.
Oh yeah, I would be willing to wager that the reason you don't have much use for people, is because you have come to realize that because of your strange artificial views, other people don't have much use for you.
I think it is important to realize that without hundreds of millions of humans doing the things I described, you would not be here today. Enough said, wake up and hug your neighbor, people are beautiful creatures.
*edit* So tell us how you dispatch with the animals that you buyfrom the farm and bring home live?
Oh yeah, I would be willing to wager that the reason you don't have much use for people, is because you have come to realize that because of your strange artificial views, other people don't have much use for you.
I think it is important to realize that without hundreds of millions of humans doing the things I described, you would not be here today. Enough said, wake up and hug your neighbor, people are beautiful creatures.
*edit* So tell us how you dispatch with the animals that you buyfrom the farm and bring home live?
Do you think i am stupid? I know we are meant to eat meat and im not a vegan. And i am not ignorant to how the world functions either. my stragne artificial views? LMFAO and people dont have much use for me? yeah right mate you have no idea about me LMFAO And no hundreds of millions of people do not torture animals the way you do, the meat factories around here use a special gun to put down the animals, they are dead within seconds and very very minimal pain, they are not strung up alive and then bled or sufocated. I do not buy my animals live from the farm, not that its any of your concern but the farmer happens to also be a butcher, who kills his own meat and cuts it himself, and yes he "disposes" of the animals in a very humane way, using the gun i have mentioned above.
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