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FairyJosie24
QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 18 2008, 03:01 PM) *
Take no notice - it's utter rubbish. You certainly don't need to explain why you're not "a scrubber" urghhh (shivers) to anyone.

Whether you're tattooed or not is irrelevant to what sort of person you are, male or female.


Usually I just ignore people like him, but sometimes it feels like I should say something, and this was one of those times. I know it won't stop him from continuing to make remarks like that, but at least he knows people will stand up to him and say something. I've just read too many of his posts that are like that; I guess I reached the end of my patience with the close-mindedness. Thanks for the support, though, it's appreciated. wub.gif
~Cheese~
I don't have one but i would like to get one
jessesgirl778
I also do have one. Only because I am very fickle. If I like something today there is no guarntee that I will like it tomorrow.
Bill Hill

You can't judge on appearances or tattoos.
Who knows, this guy might be a nice guy..

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Purplos
"Property of Jolene?" I'm sure Jolene is quite proud of her little "FUN" (according to his chin) skinhead toy.

Me? I have four tattoos planned once my nephew sets up shop. First one I'm getting is for my kids: a rocky nest with two dragon eggs hatching out - hatchling dragons one purple, one blue (birthstone colors) and my sons' names.
belial
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 19 2008, 04:48 AM) *
You can't judge on appearances or tattoos.
Who knows, this guy might be a nice guy..

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Hey - where you get my picture from grin2.gif
Schnaffler
I have four. A celtic star on my right upper arm, a small star on my left wrist, a cat with hibiscus flowers and stars across my lower back (The so called "tramp stamp" area *shudder* I hate that phrase) and a Brian Froud illustration on my upper right thigh (From The Dark Crystal). I'm planning my next two and an artist friend is currently drawing one of them for me. I'll take pictures later.

I've never been discriminated aginst for mine, they are all easily covered up but the one on my wrist is usually uncovered due to the fact that I don't wear a watch very often, I teach in a college and have never been asked to cover up. Although my Mom always get's disappointed when I have a new one - I'm 28! happy.gif

I have a few piercings too, my navel, ears several times and my newest one is my nipple - I love it.
Regency
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 19 2008, 04:48 AM) *
You can't judge on appearances or tattoos.
Who knows, this guy might be a nice guy..


Judging by the swastickers on this guy, having his police photo taken - it's a fairly safe bet that he's not a nice guy.

However, my sister is the most loveliest person you could ever want to meet, married with four kids - and she has two tattoos, one on her shoulder and one at the bottom of her spine. I don't think we can judge people by if they have tattoos or not. If you're a tattooed woman, it's not indicative that you sleep around or an unkind person.

That geezer on the photo shouldn't be classed as a guy with tattoo's but someone who likes to mutilate himself. huh.gif





Kazahel
I'm guessing he's just a Van Halen fan with that 5150 on his cheek.
eden grange
I have four tattoos would have forty if I had the chance, or should I say the money! Here is a picture of my favourite.
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Bill Hill

QUOTE (Vanquish @ Jan 18 2008, 10:20 PM) *
I plan to one day get the the lower half of my right arm, (Basically from the elbow down to the wrist!) sleeved,
probably with some type of biomechanical design of my own.


Classy......

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goalienan
I love tattos, I think their sexy as hell, done right....Except for one daughter, my family all has them..My husband from his Navy days, just kept continuing and just finished with having all his grandchildren's name's done....My son has half a sleeve....His daughter's name is River, and so with her name in the middler, it's surrounded by beautiful drawings....I have a unicorn with a rainbow over it on my shoulder...When I got it, many years ago, one of my daughters refused to talk to me....At the time not too many women has tatoos.....Needless to say she has two now.....I don't like the gothic ones, or anything done on the neck or face...And I definitely would never judge anyone who has them....As a matter of fact, when I see a really cool one I'll ask where he or she got it...
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I've only got 3, 2 on my left arm and 1 on the right. I'd like a large one on my back and on the left side of my chest running over my shoulder and joining the one on my back and the top of my left arm. I know the designs i want i just can't justify the money at the moment. I'll get them done this year though.
Chokmah
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 19 2008, 01:28 PM) *
Classy......

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Nice, how long did that take?

Edit: Lol nevermind... >.< I thought it was a pic of your tat laugh.gif My bad!
Bill Hill

QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 19 2008, 12:26 PM) *
Judging by the swastickers on this guy, having his police photo taken - it's a fairly safe bet that he's not a nice guy.
That geezer on the photo shouldn't be classed as a guy with tattoo's but someone who likes to mutilate himself. huh.gif


Well, the Swastika is an ancient symbol, which occurs in numerous indigenous Asian, European, African and Native American cultures; sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It has long been widely used in major world religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

Skinhead is a British 70's fashion associated with SKA music which has it's roots from Jamaican. So, that doesn't automatically mean he's racist.
He has 'property of Jolene' tattooed on his forehead.. which means he's in a committed relationship.. so much so, he's declared his love, by showing it to the world.
He also has 'fun' tattooed on his chin- meaning he's a fun loving guy? maybe his fun loving led to his arrest? probably for a minor offence..like being drunk in public..
I mean, he's only young. Who hasn't made a few mistakes? original.gif
Bill Hill

QUOTE (Chokmah @ Jan 19 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Nice, how long did that take?


Please... don't you know I got better taste.

Here's my leg tattoo.. it signifies the importance of symbols within our modern western culture.
Everyone was getting these public signs tats back in 2002.. but I got mine in '98 yes.gif

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Chokmah
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 19 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Please... don't you know I got better taste.

Here's my leg tattoo.. it signifies the importance of symbols within our modern western culture.
Everyone was getting these public signs tats back in 2002.. but I got mine in '98 yes.gif

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laugh.gif That's frelling awesome!
Bill Hill

QUOTE (Chokmah @ Jan 19 2008, 05:15 PM) *
laugh.gif That's frelling awesome!


I almost fainted twice, once through the pain, and once when I first looked at it completed.
sigh... that the last time I say to a tat artist.. "Nope, I just can't choose, er go ahead and surprise me with your talent....' unsure.gif
Schnaffler
OK, here's mine...
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Here's my husband's
Upper right arm (He wants this covered up or incorporated into a sleeve.)
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Upper back
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Inside left bicep (Reads "Death" one way and "Life" the other)
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Regency
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 19 2008, 04:54 PM) *
Well, the Swastika is an ancient symbol, which occurs in numerous indigenous Asian, European, African and Native American cultures; sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It has long been widely used in major world religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

Skinhead is a British 70's fashion associated with SKA music which has it's roots from Jamaican. So, that doesn't automatically mean he's racist.
He has 'property of Jolene' tattooed on his forehead.. which means he's in a committed relationship.. so much so, he's declared his love, by showing it to the world.
He also has 'fun' tattooed on his chin- meaning he's a fun loving guy? maybe his fun loving led to his arrest? probably for a minor offence..like being drunk in public..
I mean, he's only young. Who hasn't made a few mistakes? original.gif


Come on Billy, it's more likely he's a Nazi or an Arian or something equally as scary.

Most of the skin heads here in the UK have some kind of BNP/Nazi thing going on.



1.618
QUOTE (Chokmah @ Jan 18 2008, 10:59 PM) *
laugh.gif Just incase any Chinese-pork-haters ever come into a situation to eat either you, or the other guy?


no, because i taste like pork;-P
eden grange
QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 19 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Come on Billy, it's more likely he's a Nazi or an Arian or something equally as scary.

Most of the skin heads here in the UK have some kind of BNP/Nazi thing going on.


Alternatively, maybe their hair is thinning and they do not want a daft comb over. Saying most skinheads are Nazis is as pointless as the chap who said on this thread that women with tattoos are tarts disgust.gif
_Nyx_
I've got my boys' names and mine written in Elvish around my right ankle with a triquetra connecting it all together original.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (_Nyx_ @ Jan 19 2008, 01:03 PM) *
I've got my boys' names and mine written in Elvish around my right ankle with a triquetra connecting it all together original.gif

Elvish?
_Nyx_
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jan 19 2008, 02:07 PM) *
Elvish?


laugh.gif I'm an LOTR nut


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Regency
QUOTE (eden grange @ Jan 19 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Alternatively, maybe their hair is thinning and they do not want a daft comb over. Saying most skinheads are Nazis is as pointless as the chap who said on this thread that women with tattoos are tarts disgust.gif


Your confusing the point, the bloke in the photo has "Skinhead" and swastikas tattooed on his face. My husband has his hair shaved right down - he's not a Nazi nor is the majority of people who do shave their hairdown. However, the tattoo that says "Skinhead" and has a swastika also tattooed no, it's a fairly safe bet that he has Nazi leanings (or am I generalising in this case???) - I really don't think his swastikas are an appreciation of ancient cultures somehow.

Check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead
belial
QUOTE (Schnaffler @ Jan 19 2008, 05:49 PM) *
OK, here's mine...
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Here's my husband's
Upper right arm (He wants this covered up or incorporated into a sleeve.)
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Upper back
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Lower back
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Inside left bicep (Reads "Death" one way and "Life" the other)
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Ilive near to you, well not to far away - i just wondered who did your tattoos? they look like a scratchers work (not shop) nothing wrong with that as i scratch to, just curious bud.
Starr Destin Mathews
I have 11 heres some pics of some of them theres some I cant put on here because of content but here they are hope to get tons more!

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ohio traveler
As a guy I don't necessarily dislike tattoos or peircings on women. But as a personal preference, I'm not crazy about them either. I prefer the smooth pale natural beauty of a women's skin. No tattoos, ornaments, crazy peircings, or other decorations. The most enjoyable experiences I've had with a woman was with the lights off. Just a personal close soul connection is a total turn on.

But Hey. That's just me.
SteveLove
Personally I hate Tattoos. They look really ugly when they fade.

I don't know though I might get the Bloods and Crypts tattoo on each side of my body. So when I walk down the streets they'll be like "dude, I don't know if we should kill him or embrace him".
1.618
QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 19 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Come on Billy, it's more likely he's a Nazi or an Arian or something equally as scary.

Most of the skin heads here in the UK have some kind of BNP/Nazi thing going on.


Not me lol.
Bill Hill

QUOTE (SteveLove @ Jan 20 2008, 03:45 AM) *
I don't know though I might get the Bloods and Crypts tattoo on each side of my body. So when I walk down the streets they'll be like "dude, I don't know if we should kill him or embrace him".


laugh.gif that made me laugh cheers
Regency
QUOTE (1.618 @ Jan 20 2008, 03:53 AM) *
Not me lol.


I think you're missing the point too, or I 'd be really surprised if you're not.

I'm talking about "Skinheads" as people who are part of the Skinhead movement, not people who have their hair cut short.

If you are a "Skinhead" (like the description below) and don't have racial hatred leanings, then you are very rare indeed my friend. The whole point of the Skinheads having their very specific look is to show outwardly what they're thinking inwardly (does that make sense).

The skinhead phenomenon originated in the early 1970s, when groups of menacing-looking, shaved-head, tattooed youths in combat boots appeared on the streets of England. For some, the racist and chauvinistic attitudes held by these gangs developed into a crude form of Nazism with a penchant for violence, exemplified by frequent, racially motivated attacks on Asian immigrants ("Paki-bashing") and homosexuals ("fag-bashing").

Bill Hill

QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 19 2008, 07:40 PM) *
Your confusing the point, the bloke in the photo has "Skinhead" and swastikas tattooed on his face. My husband has his hair shaved right down - he's not a Nazi nor is the majority of people who do shave their hairdown. However, the tattoo that says "Skinhead" and has a swastika also tattooed no, it's a fairly safe bet that he has Nazi leanings (or am I generalising in this case???) - I really don't think his swastikas are an appreciation of ancient cultures somehow.

Check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead


Taken from the wiki link-
"The original skinhead subculture started in the late 1960s, and had heavy British mod and Jamaican rude boy influences — including an appreciation for ska, early reggae and soul music."
Kinda ironic...but there ya go.
But yeah you're probably right... the guy in the pic is probably a racist skin.. laugh.gif
Just making the point..sometimes you can judge someone with tattoos and be right; they can reveal alot about the inner person..

Take this guy for instance-
His tat tells me... he's got deep rooted psychological problems and a low IQ...
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And this one tells me... the guy likes eggs, bacon and er scrambled brains...Oh and he also suffers from 'learning difficulties' thumbsup.gif

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belial
I have been a skinhead since 1978, i have no affiliation with any nazi party nor do i know anyone who is? the idea that a skinhead is a 'paki' basher is silly. I can understand the belief that some have, but not all skinheads are racist, infact i have a 50/50 friend base split roughly equally between black and white.
My reasons for becoming a skin are easily explained, i love ska music (proper) i also have a thing about long hair on men, lol.
I gave up the DMs and the bracers, but i do still wear the levis and fred perrys (they are so expensive now)
But i can totally see why people feel the way they do - its the stereotypical view of a minority, that looks and sounds aggressive.
Check this site out.
Bill Hill

Yeah I like skin fashion.. over summer sometimes I have been known to shave my head with a razor... laugh.gif Feels good.
As for music I like... no love.. too many types to be categorised. happy.gif
And on race...I always take people as they come..really I only respect individuals.. can't stand stereotypes.. which do exist and some people do live. hmm.gif
Kismit
At the risk of going off topic.

This is by no means a reflection on all people with no hair but If the kind of skinheads who are right wing extremists are the minority why would a google image search come up with more right winged skinheads than musically influenced skinheads..

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I live in a country where the majority of Skinheads are Third Riecht and White Power. These people don't appear to have long life spans, there certainly are not many over the age of 35 any way. Natural Selection, life Prison sentences and Adulthood tend to thin them out a little.
Regency
QUOTE (belial @ Jan 20 2008, 09:22 AM) *
I have been a skinhead since 1978, i have no affiliation with any nazi party nor do i know anyone who is? the idea that a skinhead is a 'paki' basher is silly. I can understand the belief that some have, but not all skinheads are racist, infact i have a 50/50 friend base split roughly equally between black and white.
My reasons for becoming a skin are easily explained, i love ska music (proper) i also have a thing about long hair on men, lol.
I gave up the DMs and the bracers, but i do still wear the levis and fred perrys (they are so expensive now)
But i can totally see why people feel the way they do - its the stereotypical view of a minority, that looks and sounds aggressive.
Check this site out.


See I'm generalising now, I've picked up you and scooped you into a category you don't exist in and I've never even met you, my bad. Slap... my... legs.

But you know there are Skins (especially the ones who tattoo swastikas on their faces and have Skinheads also tattooed on their faces) who ARE fascists, to say there aren't is equally as silly, they do exist.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is not ALL skins are racist, some really, really are - but it's a pretty fair betting that this geezer is.

Billy, woahhhh, what the hell is that a real tattoo do you think?

Bill Hill

True Kismit but there are still two types of skinhead which is represented on the
first page of google image..

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As for the white power skins (in the US), sure there's a likelihood of going to prison where, ironically, they end up stuck together with their equally racist racial counter-parts. (Blacks/Mexicans)
Schnaffler
QUOTE (belial @ Jan 19 2008, 09:43 PM) *
Ilive near to you, well not to far away - i just wondered who did your tattoos? they look like a scratchers work (not shop) nothing wrong with that as i scratch to, just curious bud.


All of ours were done at Midland Tattoo Centre in Cannock. Stig did all of mine, my husband can't remember who did his.
Regency
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 20 2008, 10:00 AM) *
As for the white power skins (in the US), sure there's a likelihood of going to prison where, ironically, they end up stuck together with their equally racist racial counter-parts. (Blacks/Mexicans)


Maybe in the US it has a different image than it has over here. I think if you asked anyone, well all the people I know, they'd say the Skins were a racist group.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/924841.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/68764.stm

There are racially motivated murders by Skinheads in europe, according to the BBC (not one for generalising).

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Bill Hill

QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 20 2008, 10:24 AM) *
There are racially motivated murders by Skinheads in europe, according to the BBC (not one for generalising).


The BBC doesn't generalise lol laugh.gif Sorry but in the UK they're famous for doing just that..

Anyway... Skinhead-
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Skinheads, named for their close-cropped or shaven heads, are a working-class subculture that originated in the United Kingdom in the late 1960s, and then spread to other parts of the world. The first skinheads were greatly influenced by West Indian (specifically Jamaican) rude boys and British mods, in terms of fashion, music and lifestyle.[1][2] Originally, the skinhead subculture was primarily based on those elements, not politics or race.[3] Since then, however, attitudes toward race and politics have become factors in where skinheads align themselves. The political spectrum within the skinhead scene ranges from the far right to the far left, although many skinheads are apolitical. Fashion-wise, skinheads range from a clean-cut 1960s mod-influenced style to less-strict punk- and hardcore-influenced styles.

By the late 1970s, some openly neo-Nazi groups were largely composed of skinheads, and by this point, the mass media, and subsequently the general public, had largely come to view skinheads exclusively as a subculture promoting white power. However, during the late 1970s and early 1980s, many skinheads, suedeheads, ex-skinheads and football casuals in the UK rejected the dogma of both the left and right. This anti-extremist attitude was musically typified by Oi! bands such as Cockney Rejects, The 4-Skins and The Business.

Some skinheads countered the neo-Nazi stereotype by forming anti-racist organizations, such as Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice (SHARP) which was founded in New York City in 1987 and spread to several other countries, and Anti-Racist Action (ARA), which started in Minneapolis, Minnesota in 1988.
Regency
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 20 2008, 10:33 AM) *
The BBC doesn't generalise lol laugh.gif Sorry but in the UK they're famous for doing just that..


well that's news on me. Just search news and skinheads and of course, you'll get lots of examples of what I'm talking about from all sorts of news outlets, all over the world. yes.gif

we're swinging this way off topic.

I think that some Skins are nazi/racists, you disagree with that - fine. I'm cool with that.

Bill Hill

QUOTE (Regency @ Jan 20 2008, 10:46 AM) *
I think that some Skins are nazi/racists, you disagree with that - fine. I'm cool with that.


er No. Sure some are, some aren't. I'm saying skinhead is a neutral fashion. You're saying it's exclusively for nazi/racists.
That's all. Hardly a major disagreement... but it's something people are prejudiced against.. especially, I find.. those people who think they aren't prejudiced.

On subject- it's all the same. Tattoos are making a statement... a statement to other people. Like the skinhead in the pic and like this girl here-

Although, I'm not sure what this one is saying.... unsure.gif

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eden grange
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QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 20 2008, 11:02 AM) *
[On subject- it's all the same. Tattoos are making a statement... a statement to other people.


I haven't read all this thread....but...about this 'making a statement'...this might have been
said before....but a statement made at say 20 years old...could be an embarassment for the
person at 30 or 40 + years old.

I haven't got any tattoos.
eden grange
QUOTE (bee @ Jan 20 2008, 12:16 PM) *
I haven't read all this thread....but...about this 'making a statement'...this might have been
said before....but a statement made at say 20 years old...could be an embarassment for the
person at 30 or 40 + years old.

I haven't got any tattoos.



None of my tattoos are statements, there all reminders and mean something to me and always will
Bill Hill

QUOTE (bee @ Jan 20 2008, 12:16 PM) *
I haven't read all this thread....but...about this 'making a statement'...this might have been
said before....but a statement made at say 20 years old...could be an embarassment for the
person at 30 or 40 + years old.
I haven't got any tattoos.


yeah that's kinda my view. I've been through so many phases... I'd look like a right mess.. lol. laugh.gif
My friend... cringes when he looks at his tattoos.
He got them when he was in his early twenties..when he was a metal head- anyway, he's got a Dragon...er not a cool one (dungeons and dragon style) on his arm and er a half woman..half skull tattooed on his chest. Makes him look like a right psycho..

Red Dragon...
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