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zorko
What do you know about Genetic Memory where your DNA holds the memories of your geneology?
BiffSplitkins
I agree with that genetic memory is a fact.
Built in knowledge from birth exists in pretty much every living thing. I know most call it instinct but I truly believe that it's more than that.

How do bee's know how to communicate? They didn't go to bee school did they?
How do beavers instinctively know how to build a dam? No beaver school that I know of. (*ahem* if there was one I would've liked to attend)

Why is it that children have nightmares of 'monsters' coming to get them? Is it because when humans were hunted and killed by animals that those memories were genetically embedded into our DNA?

I would be curious to find out if people with 'past lives' actually have some legitimate DNA linking ancestory back to the person that they claim to have been.


Raptor
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Genes are chemicals that trigger the synthesis of different proteins, they simple aren't capable of storing memories.
Genocyde
QUOTE (BiffSplitkins @ Jan 18 2008, 04:47 PM) *
I would be curious to find out if people with 'past lives' actually have some legitimate DNA linking ancestory back to the person that they claim to have been.

thumbsup.gif That would be interesting, past lives all being from the same ancestry, I have heard very little about DNA memory, but it is a very interesting concept.
zorko
QUOTE (BiffSplitkins @ Jan 18 2008, 12:47 PM) *
I agree with that genetic memory is a fact.
Built in knowledge from birth exists in pretty much every living thing. I know most call it instinct but I truly believe that it's more than that.

How do bee's know how to communicate? They didn't go to bee school did they?
How do beavers instinctively know how to build a dam? No beaver school that I know of. (*ahem* if there was one I would've liked to attend)

Why is it that children have nightmares of 'monsters' coming to get them? Is it because when humans were hunted and killed by animals that those memories were genetically embedded into our DNA?

I would be curious to find out if people with 'past lives' actually have some legitimate DNA linking ancestory back to the person that they claim to have been.


Why wouldn't they be able to store memories? How are memories stored? I agree that this may be a reason people have "past lives" and in actuality they are merely opening a door in their DNA memory to see an ancestor. What do you think?
darkbreed
Interesting thought, I've actually been pondering quite some time about the past life memories and stuff, if this can indeed be a merely physical explainable experience. With that, I mean that the memory of lets said your great great grand father somehow is encoded in parts in your DNA so it goes by bloodline , and not necessarily any spiritual reincarnation process - even though I believe that is a most possible and likely solution as well mainly due to various experiences where people have had past life memories of people they were in no way related to in different parts of the world and such.

But yet, there seem to be a memory function within the DNA, as it's a fact that you can inherit attributes from your parents, both mentally and physically. An example can be a guy like myself, my father died while I was rather young, yet years later I found one of his diaries and to my amazement his hand writing was pretty much IDENTICAL to mine, even though I never had seen him write anything specific before, and certainly not been trained by him how to write, I had learn that in school by teachers like most other people. I also discovered that mentally we were alike in so many ways that there has to be a connection that can transfer parts of one persons personality to his son for example, as in my case. I've heard similar for other people as well, who never even met their real parents before they were old because they had been adopted etc- but when meeting they were also amazed to see their similarities, in belief systems, way of life, thoughts, ideas, interests and so on. Just like me, I'm more or less a "copy" of my father in that sense, having all the same interests as him, studying the same things, even though it took many years before I actually discovered all of those similarities.

And if that part of personality is possible to inherit, why not memories too? It is both mental, and closely related to eachother, thoughtpatterns etc.

Anyway, back to the reincarnation possibility, there is interesting research done on this too. Such as this documentary below called The boy who lived before:

Yet the question remains, were these two boys REALLY reincarnated from previous lifes, or were it memories passed down through the bloodline and DNA? At least one of the kids claimed to be his own grandfather, which was rather hilarious at one point where his father was talking about him being a kid and changing diapers on him, and suddenly the kid said "You know, I remember when you were this age and I was the one changing diapers on you!" lol.

The other kid had no relation to the person he claimed to be in his past life, physically, at least as far I remember so thats a bigger mystery.

Well here is that video anyway:
http://www.dark-truth.org/nov12006-4-reinc...ved-before.html

Enjoy
Raptor
Behavioural traits can be passed down, memories can not be.

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Peptide signals play a role in information processing that is different to that of conventional neurotransmitters, and many appear to be particularly associated with specific behaviors. For example, oxytocin and vasopressin have striking and specific effects on social behaviors, including maternal behavior and pair bonding.


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PryOpenUr3rdEye
I dunno about anyone else, but whenever I hear 46&2 by Tool is reminds me of DNA memory and for those who haven't heard it...

My shadow's
Shedding skin and
I've been picking
Scabs again.
I'm down
Digging through
My old muscles
Looking for a clue.
I've been crawling on my belly
Clearing out what could've been.
I've been wallowing in my own confused
And insecure delusions
For a piece to cross me over
Or a word to guide me in.
I wanna feel the changes coming down.
I wanna know what I've been hiding in
My shadow.
Change is coming through my shadow.
My shadow's shedding skin
I've been picking
My scabs again.
I've been crawling on my belly
Clearing out what could've been.
I've been wallowing in my own chaotic
And insecure delusions.
I wanna feel the change consume me,
Feel the outside turning in.
I wanna feel the metamorphosis and
Cleansing I've endured within
My shadow
Change is coming.
Now is my time.
Listen to my muscle memory.
Contemplate what I've been clinging to.
Forty-six and two ahead of me.
I choose to live and to
Grow, take and give and to
Move, learn and love and to
Cry, kill and die and to
Be paranoid and to
Lie, hate and fear and to
Do what it takes to move through.
I choose to live and to
Lie, kill and give and to
Die, learn and love and to
Do what it takes to step through.
See my shadow changing,
Stretching up and over me.
Soften this old armor.
Hoping I can clear the way
By stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side.
Step into the shadow.
Forty six and two are just ahead of me.

http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/T/toollyric...ysix2lyrics.htm



HEY! Has anybody played Assassins Creed? That entire game is based off searching through DNA to discover ancestral memories.
Besides, DNA is the most fundamental component of a living creature, and with our best sciences, we still don't know what 93% of it does. Theres no way we can dismiss or prove whether memories can be stored within it until we have a better understanding.
AngelOfMusic
This is really spooky! That video was very interesting and shed a lot of light on the subject. How brilliant would it be to actually remember things like that? Could it be that you get these memories by some freak accident? As in perhaps something happens to the memories of a person which then imprints onto the DNA. Then somewhere along the line comes a small child's brain with the ability to unlock these memories that other descendants could not? Just a thought!

My youngest cousin has memories of my grandad and family members that i have hardly heard about, such as my nanny's parents, and one day i remember her saying; "There's a little girl called Lilian, and a little boy called Llewelyn and they are my new friends. A four year old girl can't come up with names like that, can they? Anyway it's all very strange. Another time she was sitting on the steps at our farm in wales, and my nanny came out and said if she was alright. And she says; "Oh yes i'm fine Nanny, i'm just waiting for my grandad to come out and play with me. Are you nearly done, grandad?" And she looks over to my grandad's old shed where he used to work. "He's just making Amelia a new chair, so he won't be long." And she just walks off to find my sister. It was very creepy. But really fascinating.

Hope my uneducated ramblings helps you in any way!

Best wishes, AoM xx
Fluffybunny
QUOTE (Raptor @ Jan 18 2008, 01:17 PM) *
Behavioural traits can be passed down, memories can not be.



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There is a heck of a lot that can be encoded in dna...which can be responsible for a lot of interesting things, but memories arent going to be amongst them in my opinion. Instincts drive us to do much of what we do(regardless of how much it is denied)and those instincts are prompted with the creation and application of proteins in the body...hormones, chemicals that create certain drives or actions within the body.

It is all incredibly brilliant and a beautiful machine, but I personally dont think that there are any encoded memories in there.
AngelOfMusic
This is really spooky! That video was very interesting and shed a lot of light on the subject. How brilliant would it be to actually remember things like that? Could it be that you get these memories by some freak accident? As in perhaps something happens to the memories of a person which then imprints onto the DNA. Then somewhere along the line comes a small child's brain with the ability to unlock these memories that other descendants could not? Just a thought!

My youngest cousin has memories of my grandad and family members that i have hardly heard about, such as my nanny's parents, and one day i remember her saying; "There's a little girl called Lilian, and a little boy called Llewelyn and they are my new friends. A four year old girl can't come up with names like that, can they? Anyway it's all very strange. Another time she was sitting on the steps at our farm in wales, and my nanny came out and said if she was alright. And she says; "Oh yes i'm fine Nanny, i'm just waiting for my grandad to come out and play with me. Are you nearly done, grandad?" And she looks over to my grandad's old shed where he used to work. "He's just making Amelia a new chair, so he won't be long." And she just walks off to find my sister. It was very creepy. But really fascinating.

Hope my uneducated ramblings helps you in any way!

Best wishes, AoM xx
jrree57

Hi Zorko,

The subject was on a PBS special about two months ago. The university of Oxford or Cambridge was finding that people were developing symptoms and desease that had no direct link to their surrounding situations. In it, they were try to find a possible of rare desease reoccurance generations later.
For example, a man died of a strange form of malnutrition and bochilism witch was common to Irish during the great famine period in which four generations earlier, one of his great grand parents died of; the same desease.
Another woman developed thin annerix bones and scurvy, lack of fruits--oranges, although she would gouge herself at meal time.
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