Could the heart be used as a possible model for a perpetual motion machine? I'm talking strictly as a mechanical template. If built correctly, would it be possible, once liquid was put into it, to have the liquid move through such a model in perpetual motion -- not via muscle but merely by the amount of liquid flowing through one one-way valve into a first chamber, then once that chamber is filled the pressure forcing that chamber's liquid through the next valve into the next chamber, etc.? Odd question I know but it struck me once long ago and every once in a while it occurs to me again, so I thought I'd just ask.

I'm going to skip the long explanation and give you a one word answer.

No.

What makes the fluid move? Pumping requires energy, which the heart does not produce. So you need another energy source, which removes that model from the realm of "Perpetual motion".

Gravity and friction will not allow a liquid perpetual motion. In zero gee you would have even more problems. The heart is just a pump made of meat, and pumps need energy to move liquids. A heart is efficent though, it pumps 24 hours a day for up to 100 years, and all you need to do is eat a little now and then.

for god sake the only way perpetual motion can truly occur is a zero gravity and frictionless situation these two things being abundant here on earth i see no future for the Perpetual Motion Industry.

-Grey

now i might add though if zero gravity and and magnetism where brought together, such as a bering made of magnets attached to some sort of solar windmill kept in the rays of the sun, but at this point it would not be generating power, to make it power something would be to introduce friction, so once again i see no future for it. even then the word perpetual is not met the sun will run out one day even if its 1,000,000 years from now, thus defeating "perpetual"



-grey

The thing about perpetual motion is that there are laws that say it is impossible. Either new laws can be discovered or old ones to be found flawed is the only way for such a device to be made.

I think that if such a device was made it would do more harm then good to humanity because we should be learning how to use our limited resources responsibly which we surely aren't doing as a whole yet. Until then and long after then i suspect will humanity finally discover an unlimited energy source out of nessesity rather then want.

we don,t need to change the laws, laws don,t make energy, we need inventors with balls, who couldn,t cars less what laws say.

whoever says it is imposible becouse this or that law says it is, will never acheve anything. he is limited by his own belifs

The point is not that there are laws... it is that you cannot get past them even if you ignore them. A perpetuo mobile requires that it creates its own energy... if not it will stop sooner or later. Mostly sooner.

my point exactly. thanks.
you can,t create energy, ever. you convert it, it is all around us, all you need is out of box thinking to tap into it.
who cares if it runs forever? who cares if you have to put in 5% of what you get out. you imagination is limited, not posibilites.
check sonic boiler, 20x overunity, proven mesured and replicated, facts prove, overunity exsists. who needs perpetual motion.

There are also people who say that living dinosaurs, winged angels, cross dimensional travel, Out of body experiences and magic are all scientifically proven. Saying it and it being so are not the same thing.

When I can go down and buy a perpetual motion machine or when I have a overunity generator then I will beleive in them.

Even then I'd be pretty suspicious....

Inventors with balls? Are you saying that women cant be inventors? The thing about a law is, if it says something is impossible in said conditions, then it is impossible. Laws are PROVEN, thats right PROVEN. A scientist can just circumvent natural laws, so, lets say an inventor, well call him Jim, decides hes going to make a machie that will make him fly using a bowling ball and some tape. he knows hes heard about the law of gravity but he remebers what someone named aztek told him that he is limited only by his own beliefs. he decides that he doesnt believe in gravity, and small scale tests. he then takes an elivator up to the top balcony of a building thats 25 stories tall and dives off headfirst. he then realizes that he cant fly and says to himself "I dont believe in gravity! I dont believe in gravity! I dont believe in gr..*SMACK*.."

wow, that was funny, do you really think i ment balls literally???

your entire post is proof of what i said, lack of imagination.