I'm working on a research paper for school, this is my topic. What are you guys' opinion on this. I certainly sense a very bad future coming from this if it is allowed to continue. Yet, it is a most intriguing topic. Should it be allowed to continue, or should the research and experiments be stopped?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...5_chimeras.html

I really don't know how to answer that question Varran? I mean in one way it might be kind of cool. Like me, I'd want either Wolf genes or Tiger genes. Just because they're my favorite animals but in another way, I think that humans should just be humans and like so for animals. There's no need in trying to play God or the creator because you can only do it for so long until it back fires. Just like this virus that they've invented now that can bring the dead back to life with the Horror film side effects. You know, eating warm flesh, psycho and crap like that. Also they've cloned a human now too! Genesis ch. 1 in the works here but even then, there's no way you can do it but for so long. And what's to stop the government or others spreading out the infection in order to destory human exisitence? I'm not just gonna stand by and wait, I will fight if I must. Humans are not and will no not be just some kind of tool! We can't live forever but we can leave our history and beliefs behind us in order to sustain peace and hope.

Exactly, I had the recent remake of I Am Legend running through my head as I was reading this. I mean, if they create something they can't stop, we, the human race, are doomed to an inevitable death. It's a scary thought. Some things are just best left undiscovered. God or no God. I really don't want to live a life like that, wondering when my death will arrive. On the other hand though, it's awesome that they can do that. To enhance the human race, possibly enhance us to the extent that we don't get cancer, or any other disease/virus/mutation that could end our lives. There's an endless list to the negative and positive effects of the increasing research of this scary project.

You aren't seriously comparing what happened a movie to real science are you? Now I agree with not tampering with viruses and such, but I see nothing wrong with chimeras. Unless they don't start kidnapping children off the street to use as science experiments, what harm can it cause? From my understanding any chimera will be born that way anyway, so it's not like they can force the change on you.

One thing that kind of annoys me arguments like this are how they say human/animal hybrid like we're somehow above every other living thing. Humans are animals, the only difference between us and other mammals is that we're more intelligent. So it would be more accurate to say animal/animal hybrid or human/specific animal species hybrid. But that's just semantics I guess.

In the end I would encourage chimera technology.

You say that, until they make an animal that feeds on humans. That has the intelligence of a human being. And intelligence is what brings us above every other living thing. We are animals yes, but we ARE above that. I really don't feel like being devoured by an animalistic experiment with the intelligence of a normal human being. I'm not saying that this will happen, I'm just trying to make a point that something dangerous is bound to occur. Like the religious quote "don't play God." i'm not religious, but something bad is bound to happen.

What happens when, or if an unethical scientist decides not to destroy the embryos, what happens then? I, often, wonder if the Chupacabra which has been seen isn't some kind of experiment what went wrong.

I know there are laws governing scientists, but what if, a scientist found some place outside of where the law prohibits the growth of the embryos, and goes on to create a live hybrid? It only takes one rogue scientist to go a bridge too far. I believe it is possible, and I believe the Chupacabra is the result of one such experiment gone wrong.

Certainly a possibility, it has the intelligence to hide from us humans yet, seem to be able to feed and survive. There are so many things that can just go wrong. Scary thought most definately.

Since when?

Why are you so afraid of something that has the potential to enhance your life in your later years, I would relish being able to live a longer healthier life if even if it meant i shared genetic material more like found in a tiger or whale, but in reality we already share those genes, it is whether or not they are active that helps determine our physical appearance.
Why fear when and where death will take you, I mean a chimera won't decide that, an ordinary though slightly mentally unstable person can decide that one or perhaps that car barreling down the street will take your precious life, that is what makes it interesting.

since tuesday of this week, watch cnn sometime

sh** sorry, i didn't realize that me not knowing about this magic virus that brings people "back from the dead" would come as such a slap in the face for you... next time i'll just assume that everything a member of UM posts is a solid fact, instead of asking questions

No offense, but if you are indeed a coward, or so afraid to try anything new you'd stifle a revolution in medical, biological and maybe even social science just because you're afraid of what MIGHT happen(which is being a coward). You take horror movies designed for entertainment too seriously.

I still wanna know the name of this new virus that makes people zombies, i'm eagerly awaiting the swarm of links and other informative and factual data

Sounds like a hoax to me, cant seem to find much viable info...

Heres what I found.

http://www.fvza.org/zscience1.html

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features...is/zombies.html

http://science.discovery.com/stories/zombies.html

Thank you for that Sm0k3.

Obviously SRCivic98 is a bit confused about whats real and whats fictions...like for example the fact that the Zombie Survival Guide is a joke...

It's not a hoax, I've found a print source in a magazine in U.S. News and World Report magazine, a 2003 publication. It basically states the exact thing in the link I posted earlier.

I'm not against it. I'm just stating that anything is possible. I do in fact see bad from this. Cowardice has nothing to do with it. Horror movies are fantasy, fiction, whatever else you want to call it. I Am Legend is one of the more possible events that could occur. They're doing it all the time. Tampering with viruses to attempt to make cure for diseases. I encourage the continuation of the Human-Hybrid research. By the way Wickian, this thread was more or less an informative thread, not one of debate. I do not understand why you are getting so worked up over this.

That's a pretty big claim, man. Like, seriously, we're talking the greatest scientific achievement ever. You really need to supply some factual basis that can be checked, and not just expect everyone to do a rudimentary Google search--it's not another's responsibility to dig up support for your claims. If you want people to believe you on here, you need to supply some factual support, link-wise at least.

But, apparently because there is some news story on CNN about "this virus that they've invented now that can bring the dead back to life with the Horror film side effects. You know, eating warm flesh, psycho and crap like that," I'm going to check...

Nope, nothing on CNN. And here I thought a zombie virus would be big news...

I agree with you. If there was in fact a virus that could bring the dead back to life, and it was released to the media. I would have heard of it by now, it would be EVERYWHERE, not just CNN. Also, why would the government let something like that be released to the media? It would cause an upheaval, panic would spread throughout the world. Raids, everything you can think of. It's obviously a hoax if you've heard it. I agree with you Ourmoonlitsun. (nice name by the way.)

hmm

the power of the entire tapestry in my frail human form

what would you do once you became more than just human

chimera will make war on man
weak humans or reborn beastmen

who would win
chimera will be stronger
will be smarter

humans will become prey

ive thought of this
i know some sweet combos

No.

Never.

We are getting to big for our shoes all of the sudden. Sure work on curing disease and whatnot, but don't start tampering with stuff that might have disastourous consequences.

yes thank you!! thank you thank you thank you!
Finally someone who sees as I see.

Anything can go wrong, correct?

Yes, another person. See. There are always more than 2 opinions. If you've seen a movie that is based on genetic engineering, I Am Legend, yes it's about curing cancer and what not, but still. Scientists could create something similar. That's my point.

There will always be people who disagree with others no matter what the subject is. Your stance is "better safe than sorry" mine is "what's wrong with progress for the sake of progress". It upsets me when scientific progress is halted due to religious/moral opposition.

I have not put moral or religious opposition into this thread. I couldn't care less about morals, at least when it comes to cloning and genetically engineering things. I'm talking about the safety of the human species. The creation of something that could possibly pose a threat to us.

And at Stanford University in California an experiment might be done later this year to create mice with human brains.

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That reminds me of hitch hikers guide to the galaxy.
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I do not think they would fully develop a chimera, and if they did, I think if they had self awareness and intelligence, should have all rights as a full blood human.

Are you talking about the Solanum virus? Thats the only "zombie virus" I can find anywhere on the internet. Its from The Zombie Survival Guide, a work of fiction. If there was another virus out there, it would be all over the internet. It just doesn't seem very likely. Do you have a link to the article you read?

Solanum

The solanum virus and the whole story about zombie-viruses was a hoax created by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks. It is not real. And yes, if it were real and the dead could be brought back to life, we would be hearing about it EVERYWHERE.

That being said, there WAS a related story on CNN last week. Scientists have found a way to take a dead mouse heart, clean it of all the dead tissue, inject it with living mouse cells (I don't know whether we're talking heart cells here, or stem cells), and about a week later, the heart started beating again. They think this might revolutionize the care of people who need organ transplants; maybe instead of a new organ, they can one day fix the old one instead.

Yes, I like the idea of that. I mean, they ARE partially human.

Hmmm...A very interesting science. So, basically scientists are finding out how to stop death by aging? That's another topic all together. It's scary how far science has evolved today.

There talking about the T-virus you know the one unbrella corp made

What gives us the right to 'create' life and then destroy it for our own purposes... No wonder the world is so screwed up...

I don't care about the 'health benefits' that 'might' come about because of this 'scientific research'. It is unethical to create chimeras.

If they create it, at least let it live. If it has a possiblity of being dangerous to the human species then you shouldn't take such risks.

These scientists sound like proper Doctor Frankensteins...

It just gives me a really bad feeling and I don't like the idea that this is going on at all, for so many reasons...

I haven't heard any recent news, the research paper turned out to be a horrible failure from lack of available information and resources. But eh, life moves on. Has anybody else heard anything about it?

If Chimera were created they would look like something out of the Ps3 game Resistance: Fall of man. Although joking aside humans should not clone or mess with things like this. I don't know if god exists but humans shouldn't play god.

I think the potential gains from this sort of research far outweigh the possible negative consequences. Granted, it is a responsibility of the scientists involved to take all safety precautions, just as it is with any potentially dangerous science. There are many things though that are being studied that "in the wrong hands" could prove amazingly dangerous to the human race, and if you propose to stop them, you're eventually going to stop human progress in it's tracks because we're afraid to move on. Hybridized genetic models could lead to anything from cancer immunity to full regeneration of lost or damaged body parts and hundreds of other possibilities. To progress, we must take risks; without risks, we will stagnate scientifically, held back by our own fear.

Chimera eh. It'd be cool though, I've been really dreaming to have the ability to see in the dark and hear subsonic sounds .

What if injecting yourself with animal genes became the next fashion thing, like tattoes or peircings only not temporary and more ... mutated lol.

I would go for lizard genes myself, the ladies like a green guy.

Look at me I'm a chimera this is what happens when you screw with nature, and its awsome!z

Hmmm. Cute.

thanx I told you being a chimera isnt so bad

I think the purpose of this experimentation is medical-- to grow organs that can ethically be harvested.

The problem for me would be- can they control which part of the animal is human? Can they create pigs with human livers and be certain those pigs don't also have human consciousness?

If they killed the animal and harvested it's human organs, I wonder what they'd do with the rest of the animal? I must say, eating pork chops from a pig that had a human liver is not an appealing idea.

Then we'd be partially canniballistic. I don't think certain parts could change the way a human or animal could think per say, but it definately has some kind of impact on the person/animal, transplanted people of course. Now if they were born with it, i'm sure it would change the thinking of the person/animal.

The original purpose of this thread is purely scientifical. I highly doubt you are, in fact, a chimera. Unless you have had an organ transplant and have an animal organ, then I give you my apologies. Thank you.

Here is my question, on topics such as these, the phrase "one shouldn't play God" inevitably comes up. Now here is my response to that phrase, If God did not want us to be like "him/her" then why allow us to develop the technology to both undo and rebuild what "s/he" already created.

That's when you here the stupid phrase, "It's all about Freewill" or something undeniably stupid like that. If he didnt' want us to have free will, he obviously wouldn't have given it to us.

Hey guys, I did find some links regarding the zombie possibility.

http://www.strangemag.com/anomalypages/reanimatingdead.html.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38877.

Can anyone of us be 100 percent certain that the human race isn't a chimera descent of simian and alien mixture?

I, too, am afraid of where this scientific experiment could lead to. I hope to God that the face of the Sphinx is fake on Mars. I have seen pictures that look like a mixture of simian and feline face. Did these chimeras rebelled against their creators and war ultimately destroyed their planet, Mars? Now this could be happening all over again on Earth.

On the other hand, scientific research can be good, too. Humans may be able to live longer even to 800 years according to a scientist.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/...ars-772418.html

Imagine the possibility of reversing what the Bible claims that God shortened human life and us humans able to undo that, may be live as long as 900 years like father Abraham in the old testament.

What do you guys think about that?