I have to be totally honest in that I always thought Orbs in pictures were either touched up or were able to be explained away by logic, I have never believed that they were anything unusual or out of the ordinary

But then last night after work, some mates were taking photos of each other in work mode, just before finishing up & in 2 photos I saw (along with all of us there) 3 orbs of different sizes totally clearly in 2 photos of the same workmate, none appeared in the other photos that this workmate wasnt in ?????

These orbs/spheres of light were so obviously clear in very high res pics and they couldnt have been touched up as I saw the photos (along with many others) literally 5 mins after the photos were taken

I was so amazed I pleaded with my mate to email these so I could post them here so you could understand what Im trying to explain, but they were reluctant and I doubt they want to make them available publicly

Anyway .... Id like some opinions on this Orb/spheres of light phenomena ???? is there any logical explanation

I've never seen a photo of an orb which wasn't dust, bugs, or some other kind of particle in front of the lens being illuminated by the flash/IR illuminator.

Thanks for your explanation ... I too always held that position on the matter, either that or photoshopped later. But you would expect to have seen the same 'effect' in the other photos taken in the exact same place and time ????

The skeptic part of me wondered 'are there camera's now that can impose bubbles/spheres into pics soon as you take the pic ???' ...some of the workmates were quite unsettled by these photos ????

maybe its his guardian angel

Dust moves very quickly, much faster than the camera takes a photo. If they're unsettled, a quick search for "orb" in google should make them feel better. Flip up some dust in front of the lens using a flash and see for yourself, or send them here.

Thats exactly what a few of the workmates suggested !!!

Hi, I have always believed that "some" orbs are balls of psychic or spiritual energy, which is in my opinion, the one way a spirit can manifest itself at the time. Most will blame dust, pollen, reflections etc, but no one is an expert, and those who are into photography are very picture smart, but IMO they attribute it logical as oppossed to paranormal..I believe some of the paranormal ones are loved ones around us, or guardian angels, and some arent so good, it depends. I hope they email them to you..JN

i hope you can get a copy i would love to see them i really don't believe in orbs but would love to see them

When people catch orbs themselves, it becomes personal... and people tend to get attached and excited at what they 'may' have caught. It's always useful to try and side step away from that. I do believe there's a small percentage of orb pics that are energy of some sort, majority though tend to be dust, pollen, bugs, reflections.

I finally convinced my workmate to email me the orb pics I mentioned here... reluctantly he agreed to send 1 of the 2 pics that night showing 3 orbs ( though he didnt need to circle them as theyre pretty clear)

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The orb on the bottom left is impressive. It's bright and has the outer shell and it's not transparent. I messed around with the color and balance/contrast in a editting program. While everything else changed color, and in some ways so did the other two orbs (especially the one at the top center), the one at the bottom left didn't change color. To me that says the orb was emitting it's own light and is a genuine orb. The one at the top center may just be a dust particle, actually. The one at the top right could possibly be a genuine orb, but I'm not 100% sure.

From my experience as well as the photo editting experiment, I'd say you've got one genuine orb in that photo - bottom left. That means you captured a ball of concentrated energy on camera. Whether that energy is from a spirit or something else..who knows. But it's paranormal - not dust!

Much respects for your analysis Stormgazm, Cheers Mate

Its weird that they only appear in the 2 photos with him out of around 10 photos taken in the space of 5 - 10 mins, the orbs in the other pic are pretty similar (but I need another look at the 2nd pic, he only sent me this one)

Photographers attribute it to dust, pollen, reflections, and the play of light across tiny imperfections in the camera's lense because that's what they are.

You folks crack me up.



Ridiculous.

http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/guam/629...artmanlaugh.wav

BTW, that photo appears to have been taken in a residence. Do you folks work in someone's home or something?

From experience and what I've read true orbs are both 1)intelligent and 2) can move extremely fast. So orbs will intentionally show up in one or two photographs, and then not in many others. It's like they are saying, "Hey, I'm here, you should look into this".

I'd like to see the other photos if you ever have a chance to upload them.

I think the explanation for why orbs can appear in one photo and not in another, although the 2 are taken seconds apart and in the same room, is that if you tilt your camera in a slightly different angle the light may catch dust, pollen, etc whereas in the first picture the light rays weren't at a favorable angle for orbs. Just tilting your camera ever so slightly changes the angle at which light hits the lens.

You crack me up. I broke down the photo and admitted that at least one, maybe even two of the orbs are false, i.e. dust or some camera effect. But I suppose it's ridulous to think that the one could be paranormal - especially given it's quite clear one is emitting it's own light!

No, what's rediulous is someone posting a dead link...good job...

It also changes the angle of light to tiny imprefections in the camers's lense.



Yes, it is ridiculous. It is not emiting any light except the light reflected by the flash.

And this is where we disagree. It is emitting light. But I suppose we can agree to disagree on this one.

Sure. Your idea, although incorrect, is more fun anyway.

I recommend researching fluorescence. Once you understand that process you may be able to grasp how that orb is emitting it's own light.

Cheers.

I recommend you spend 5 years working as a professional photographer and get a degree in broadcast communications. Once you understand how a camera works, you may be able to grasp how that orb is reflecting light from the camera.

Well, as I stated in a previous post, one or maybe two of those orbs ARE the result of light reflections. However, one of them cannot be explained by that phenomenon. You, however, refuse to accept that. I have offered another explanation for which you have tossed asside.

Seems to me you are missing something here.

They all can be explained by that phenomenon. You, however, refuse to accept that. I have offered a RATIONAL and REALISTIC explanation that you have swept aside because you don't want an explanation, you want a ghost.

I'm fine with that. If you want to indulge your imagination, it is of no consequence. I can only hope that you vote in political elections with more reason and a firmer grasp on reality, because that's where it counts.

OTT but we are actors and had just finished filming for the night, and the segments we done that night required this location... (an old styled home in rural Auckland)

and much respects for your advice about this as well Neognosis

ah, that would explain it.

Try this, you will be guarenteed to get more orbs, even ones that some will claim are generating their own light:

Go outside at night with some friends. Make sure at least 3 or 4 of you have digital cameras. Take them to a scary location, and tell them that you swear that you heard moaning there the previous night and that you felt a presence. Tell them that the presence came from a specific object...a tree, a structure, whatever. Have everyone start taking pictures.

You will, 90% of the time, end up with multiple "orbs" on different cameras. The flashes from the other cameras makes this almost a certainty. But your friends, unless they are naturally skeptical and logical, will look at their photos, see the orbs, and come to the fantastical conclusion that they captured the ghost you told them you heard/saw/felt the previous night.

It's a combination of ignorance of how a camera lense and light work together and your suggestion with the scary story. It's fun, and a routine that "ghost hunters" and "mediums" routinely use on their marks on "ghost walks" at night in "haunted" locations.

So whats your explanation? I look for the logical.

I understand your point, but I can be totally honest in that it didnt happen that way. There was just the one workmate taking photos and we took them while we were still done up in our characters, there were appox. 10 pics taken by just that one camera however 3 orbs appeared in the 2 photos of this particular workmate ???

Im not saying one way or another exactly what they are, Im not even saying it was a scary story except we all thought it was weird and a few mates even got a little unsettled and thought they must be guardian angels (but I never said that)

I am also fully accepting your p.o.v on this and like to give Stormgasm the credit for at least running a few tests of his own to formulate his own p.o.v

I didn't say it doesn't happen with just one camera. It can and does. But it is very nearly a guraentee that you will get orbs with multiple cameras. It's a fun thing to do to mess with minds that are more vulnerable to suggestion.



Coincidence. It could have been the light where he was standing. It could have been dust coming from his clothes. it could have been that his height led the photographer to tilt the camera at the right angle. He could have been statically charged.


Try this too, this one's even more fun...

After your mates and you get a few photos of orbs, and they are all freaking out about ghosts, approach the object that you tell them is "haunted" and claim that you feel a tingling sensation when you put your arm out towards it. Put your arm out at shoulder height and have your friends do the same. After around 30 seconds, the blood will start to pool ever so slightly in their fingertips, and they will feel a very slight tingling, especially after they have been "set up" by you with the story and your claims of feeling "tingling energy."

If they are gullible enough to accept orbs as spirit energy, they'll be gullible enough to believe that they are feeling the spirit energy they just photographed with their cameras.

It's great fun.

Maybe one will even post on this board the next day, and then you can see firsthand how the story will get twisted. By next year, your friends will be honestly believeing that they also heard scary noises and even saw somethign wtih their naked eyes. it's very interesting, the human mind.

Or, if you wanted to be particularly ruthless and REALLY experiment, claim that you have other photos of your friend with more orbs. (if you don't, that's ok, claim you can't find them or that they disappeared off of the computer or something...even better if you DO have more photos of this guy with orbs...). Tell them that you feel weird around your friend, and that sometimes you think you see a black cloud around him from the corner of your eye, but when you turn to look it vanishes. If you keep this up for a week, at least one of your friends will claim the same. Then throw in that you dreampt that he was surrounded by demons.

Sit back and watch the stories grow and become more and more extreme. Produce one or two more orb photos, and maybe you'll get lucky and some bit of bizzarre luck will befall your friend between now and a year from now. Watch how your other friends will change the way they treat him. If any of them have a motive to dislike him (he dated their girlfriend, he got a job they were up for onece, etc. etc) it will take off even faster.

Of course, that's horrible, and you shouldnt' do this to another person, but it's an amazing illustration of why stuff like this that ecourages the abandonment of rational thought is ultimately dangerous. The Salem Witch trials, (ultimately motivated by greed for property) are an excellent example of this.

I bet some folks on this board STILL believe that some of those peopel who were hung were in league with the devil or haunted....

Fully accepted & seems logical to me as well, much respects Neognosis

oh BTW thanks for those tips !!! sounds like some good fun (esp. for after work wind down heheh)

BTW, I went back and softened my language in the previous post. I shouldn't have said "weaker" minds. That was insensitive of me and wrong.

No probs Neo all good & thanks again for providing an explanation from a professional veiwpoint

I have a hard time with this subject as I know majority of photographic ones are dust... Yet I have seen orbs with the naked eye on many occasions and in my case they do not omit their own light. Mine are pale grayish and inside you can see what I would describe as sort of inside of a light bulb, I've seen them spinning like a kaleidescope or just pulsating either way they move in an intelligent way.

When in my post did I specify the orb HAD to be a ghost? When did I say I want a ghost? The orb is energy. It could be resident energy built up from the many people around in the room, it could be spiritual, it could be something else. I'm not sure...but I never said it was definitely a ghost. You jumped to that conclusion. I'm just saying it's not a reflection or a camera effect in THIS case.

I'm not indulging my imagination, I'm exploring science. I'm not sure why you brought up politics.

It's funny you mention reality. You see, you've accepted that reality is limited by what we can see. If you actually think that's all there is..man oh man, I feel sorry for you. Try openning your mind and look at what your camera is showing you.

The problem with photographing outside is many of the orbs could easily be false orbs. Absolutely. The other problem is if you go to a graveyard there is likely to be some residual energy from the dead for obvious reasons. Furthermore, in your scenario, if you have 3 or 4 digital cameras all being fired at the same time, you bet your bottom dollar you're gonna get some genuine orbs - eventually! C'mon, all that light exciting the atoms from the resident energy. Yes, of course you'll get orbs. They are not that uncommon....the problem is telling the difference between true and false orbs.