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chemical-licker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdamOzrfZI0

who else can pull it off?
Unlimited
so when is someone going to be arrested?.....
keithisco
All part of the "Fear and Control" campaign by Bush
Unlimited
bottom line gw bush uses chemical and biological weapons on his citizens...and somehow he's better than saddam...he needs to be dealt with...
Lt_Ripley
Early in Bushs' illegal war in Iraq(2003 or 04) there was to be a anti war demonstration in the streets of DC. At the last minute diverted from the White House and surrounding DC area on the tall tale from the powers that be ( I believe it was CIA or FBI) that they were checking the area for the threat of chemicals suddenly. Not originating from the protesters but a seperate threat directed at them for protesting.

I remember reading this in the news , not alot of mention of it , no real follow up and of course no comment from the government on follow up. I've searched over and over for this bit of news since to no avail. It's just disappeared. like all those emails.

Guess Bush didn't feel like seeing protesters on Pennsylvania ave.
Unlimited
This will just be brushed under the rug like everything else...it's ok for bush to anthrax you..he's the despot remember..and this is no longer a government for the people....just mindless sheeples who dont mind being sprayed down with chemical; as long as bush approves it..
Chokmah
There's a better video - part 1 of 4 - of the docu Here <<< Linkage.
Bill Hill



It's funny, I was just thinking about those anthrax attacks the other day... and how we haven't heard anymore about them. hmm.gif

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Unlimited
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Jan 27 2008, 04:12 PM) *
It's funny, I was just thinking about those anthrax attacks the other day... and how we haven't heard anymore about them. hmm.gif

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It's because the FBI solved the case and it was the administration that did it...it's kind of hard to arrest yourselfs?...
L815
And on top of this hes trying to pass a law to immune himself of all these wrongful things hes done.
Unlimited
QUOTE (L815 @ Jan 27 2008, 04:33 PM) *
And on top of this hes trying to pass a law to immune himself of all these wrongful things hes done.


saddam hung for using anthrax....whats good for the goose and all....
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Jan 27 2008, 11:39 AM) *
saddam hung for using anthrax....whats good for the goose and all....



exactly. just like DU. too.

during WWll . well throughout the Vietnam war the USA prosecuted for war crimes those who perpetrated WATER BOARDING by other countries.

now it's legal ??? gmafb the stink of hypocrisy. now they have made it fine for water boarding to be done by others to our military.

this administration needs to get what it gives - set them in a room and let fly that harmless DU and anthrax then waterboard the sh*t out of them till we find out all the BS they have done. Start with Rove with his bad heart he'll blab fast followed by the awol chicken bush. he'll cluck like a hen.
Unlimited
bush, cheney, rove all of them should be waterboarded i agree....a good dunks a no brainer for me...
Torgo
Just because the bacterium was identified as one developed/used by the US government does not mean the government decided to use it. There are such things as sadistic psychopathic a******s in any profession, who would either do this on their own or sell it to someone who would.

<edit> "never attribute to malice what can instead be attributed to sheer stupidity." Or in this case, a lesser malice. </edit>

Also, I've become VERY wary of ANYTHING on the history channel recently. This is one of their less stupid things. The other night they had a documentary claiming that there was a frakking black hole on the ocean floor under the Carribian. If that doesn't make you question the sanity of their writers, i don't know what will.
keithisco
QUOTE (Torgo @ Jan 27 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Just because the bacterium was identified as one developed/used by the US government does not mean the government decided to use it. There are such things as sadistic psychopathic a******s in any profession, who would either do this on their own or sell it to someone who would.

<edit> "never attribute to malice what can instead be attributed to sheer stupidity." Or in this case, a lesser malice. </edit>

Also, I've become VERY wary of ANYTHING on the history channel recently. This is one of their less stupid things. The other night they had a documentary claiming that there was a frakking black hole on the ocean floor under the Carribian. If that doesn't make you question the sanity of their writers, i don't know what will.

Just how brainwashed are you?

This particular bacterium was bred in the Labs, Mutated so the signature would be identifiable, and it's source could be derived!!! Do you think it is easy to get out of these labs with a petrie dish??? Your naívete is incredulous!!

The checks these people NORMALLY have to go through every time they enter or leave the labs is very thorough. The fact that this bacterium left the labs is proof-positive that there was collusion.

Stop believing that your government cannot be involved.
Torgo
QUOTE (keithisco @ Jan 27 2008, 04:53 PM) *
Just how much of a fool are you?

This particular bacterium was bred in the Labs, Mutated so the signature would be identifiable, and it's source could be derived!!! Do you think it is easy to get out of these labs with a petrie dish??? Your naívete is incredulous!!

The checks these people NORMALLY have to go through every time they enter or leave the labs is very thorough. The fact that this bacterium left the labs is proof-positive that there was collusion.

Stop believing that your government cannot be involved.


I just find it unlikely that "the government" which is after all a collection of PEOPLE, can be so uniform of purpose and action. It is far more believable that one or a very few people would do such a thing than to assume it was a large operation. I'm not disputing at all that the bacterium originated in a US lab, and I'd say someone at the lab was pretty much certainly involved.

Side note - it wasn't mutated so that it would have an identifiable signature. It was a specific selectively bred weaponized strain which, when you analyze its DNA, is unique from other strains (all strains will be unique such that you can tell them apart).

Also - anthrax is a bacterium. You only need to get a single bacterium out of the lab to grow as much as you want. I've worked at NIH with genetically modified bacteria (a harmless strain of E. Coli, and i only put fish blood genes in it, don't worry!) that I had to make huge cultures of. From a single bacteria dropped in liquid onto an agar plate, in 2 days I was able to make liters of broth containing TRILLIONS of bacteria - and that was only limited by the size of the flasks we had and the fact I had to make sure the bacteria were in fact modified the way I wanted them to be.

My point, of course, is that I find it completely plausible that someone could somehow smuggle a TINY sample of weaponized anthrax out of a lab easily - either to sell to someone or use themselves. And that whenever you postulate that more people are involved, the chance that one of them would either stop the operation or let others know increases.

In addition, I also find it entirely plausible that the government is not investigating it to their full capability because it would be embarrassing and inflammatory if it was found out that they accidentally let someone slip a sample of this bioweapon out of a lab somewhere.

<edit> again - "never attribute to malice what you can instead attribute to sheer stupidity" - in this case, rather than malice on the government's part i find it far more believable that they were just incompetent in stopping someone from smuggling the bug out. </edit>
Unlimited
It was just a coincidence that bayer had all that cipro ready to go...im pretty sure bush and cheney got an anthrax shot just before the attacks..
Magnatude
QUOTE (Torgo @ Jan 27 2008, 02:24 PM) *
I just find it unlikely that "the government" which is after all a collection of PEOPLE, can be so uniform of purpose and action. It is far more believable that one or a very few people would do such a thing than to assume it was a large operation. I'm not disputing at all that the bacterium originated in a US lab, and I'd say someone at the lab was pretty much certainly involved.


Hmm... I used to think the same way until some of those people in this government circle started to talk:

Watch this Paul O'Neil Former Bush Secretary(its short)

and this: Good Ol General Wesley Clark (its short too)

An if you can believe in your Government after these two very prominent members of the United States have come forth to give you the unfortunate truth about your government, well then you deserve the rulership you have given yourself over to.

Not to worry you are not alone we Canadians are dealing with our own Media-culling so-in-so Prime Minister.

and yes, your fellow American citizens are demonstrating, however your media "chooses" not to report it.
Rolci
The question is NOT what else have they done against you guys, or whether 9/11 was an inside job or not. I think this all should be pretty clear for you all by now. The question is this: are you going to do something about this, or let these idiots rule you and just wait patiently for WW3? Yeah, a nuclear war and an apocalypse within 5 years would sure be fine. Probably that's what 2012 should be all about anyway. Why act now? It's all gonna sort itself out. Well, I'm sure it is...
Unlimited
QUOTE (Rolci @ Jan 28 2008, 12:00 AM) *
The question is this: are you going to do something about this, or let these idiots rule you and just wait patiently for WW3?


what can we do?...I guess we could all call our senators?....charles grassley seems to be interested?...
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (Torgo @ Jan 27 2008, 04:41 PM) *
Just because the bacterium was identified as one developed/used by the US government does not mean the government decided to use it. There are such things as sadistic psychopathic a******s in any profession, who would either do this on their own or sell it to someone who would.

<edit> "never attribute to malice what can instead be attributed to sheer stupidity." Or in this case, a lesser malice. </edit>

Also, I've become VERY wary of ANYTHING on the history channel recently. This is one of their less stupid things. The other night they had a documentary claiming that there was a frakking black hole on the ocean floor under the Carribian. If that doesn't make you question the sanity of their writers, i don't know what will.



here's a point however - those sadistic psychopaths tend not to stop.

as for the black hole on the floor of the Caribbean - you didn't watch the show very well did you ? or the fact that those opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the History channel ?

and I like Battalstar -- but their use of 'frakking' outside of the show is well ,,,,,, sad
Rolci
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Jan 28 2008, 12:48 AM) *
what can we do?...I guess we could all call our senators?....charles grassley seems to be interested?...


I do have an personal opinion/idea as of what could be done. But most of the guys here really don't give a damn, not even so much as to start thinking about this. Let alone guys out there who haven't even realized any of what's going on in your governments. This link ( http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2DGRFv1XTVk ) Magnatude posted us proves it all too well. Just have a look at the view count. Don't expect America to wake up just yet. Part of the trouble is that these videos are still linked to from sites like this only. Those who believe these are all just stupid conspiracy theories and don't believe in psychic powers and all will never visit conspiracy websites and webpages like this one. Ergo they'll never learn anything, rely on TV news programmes and stay brainwashed forever. These links need to be posted on proper websites (no offence to UM), I mean more conventional, orthodox, or I don't know the word, maybe more objective, independent, informative websites. Don't try news "forums" though. I tried posting on the Telegraph's (UK paper) website. Of course they're revised and edited, and if they so decide they don't have to let your post appear. Guess what. My posts never appeared. Anyway, in this thread I'm still waiting to see a bit more interest, ideas, and then maybe I could see some point in giving some proper advice myself. I'm not worried about myself 'cuz I know what to do. But I'd like to help others still, if I can, that is if I'm let. Whether others will see actual help in my ideas or not, let alone considering taking action, is another question.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...p;#entry2091198
Unlimited
QUOTE (Rolci @ Jan 28 2008, 10:47 AM) *
I do have an personal opinion/idea as of what could be done. But most of the guys here really don't give a damn,


try me...I actually give a damn...
Rolci
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Jan 28 2008, 11:03 AM) *
try me...I actually give a damn...


I believe you, you have already posted a short post in my topic, though not ideas, just a confirmation. At least it shows that a few are aware of the colossal problem we have on our hands, if that's the right way to put it. Like I said, I know what I should do, but it involves sacrifices, like giving up comfort for a while. I strongly recommend reading the first book of The Celestine Prophecy series, but not the movie, which was by the way a nice try but to reflect the essence of the book properly it would've had to be at least a 12-hour marathon. Anyway, I think the most important aspect of the book is to make ppl realize that the message of humanity's evolution to a global spiritually enlightened state can actually be achieved. All we need is to reach the "critical mass". Before that, you can only save yourself, but I personally wouldn't put up with that. The ultimate goal here is to not leave anybody behind to be ruled upon. Especially not a majority. But in my honest opinion, although there IS a worldwide spiritual enlightenment in progress, it's far too slow and I'm afraid it won't be able to catch up with the speed of the brainwashing the media do. Like I said in my thread, throwing away your TV would be a nice first step. I'm working on the rest, I've got a basic mainframe that I deem workable, but the problem is always the same: reaching the critical mass. The only way is the media. But you know who control the media. Maybe someone should hack once into the system and transmit a message to the ppl on all channels for 24 hours. original.gif I don't know. But I can't think of a better solution than the media. These informational documentaries are a nice try. I think The Corporation is an excellent example. It was advertised on these huge advertising boards and in the corridors of the Underground for a while, just like Sicko a while ago. But most ppl I ask have no clue there were such movies. We need the media and present these ideas in a way that ppl accept it's the truth and not some conspiracy theory. Otherwise we can say goodbye to the critical mass and a long-term solution.
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