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NASA Employee Goes Public On UFOs
Donna Hare, former NASA employee goes public about her knowledge of UFOs and how Apollo astronauts have all been instructed to remain silent about what they know. Watch this and ask, 'Is she credible?' before you make up your mind
http://evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=9147
Is there a transcript of it? It is blocked by my work computer.
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jan 28 2008, 11:36 PM) 
Is there a transcript of it? It is blocked by my work computer.
Dont know mate, a friend just sent me the link.
only text i see on the site is what i pasted on the thread, watch it when u get home. let me know what you think.
nice video louie. ive seen some other vids like that, where people come forth and say they worked on the photos, 'fixing' them, before released to the public.
unfortunately, alota people will tend to say 'theyre just a whistle blower. why should i believe them?'.
theres more of those posted on youtube though. check them out.
unfortunately, alota people will tend to say 'theyre just a whistle blower. why should i believe them?'.
theres more of those posted on youtube though. check them out.
Yeah i know.
she could be doing it for attention, of she could be telling the truth, who knows, thats the kicker with these things you never really know.
she could be doing it for attention, of she could be telling the truth, who knows, thats the kicker with these things you never really know.
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jan 28 2008, 12:36 PM)
Is there a transcript of it? It is blocked by my work computer.
Donna Hare video at YOUTUBE.COM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLJuC8iakC4
QUOTE (louie @ Jan 28 2008, 06:56 PM)
Yeah i know.
she could be doing it for attention, of she could be telling the truth, who knows, thats the kicker with these things you never really know.
she could be doing it for attention, of she could be telling the truth, who knows, thats the kicker with these things you never really know.
i know. but ithink im leaning towards believing their statements. because astronauts have claimed to see things up there too (or on earth). and thats not for attention, because most of the world Already know who they are. because they see them on t.v. and the paper.
Donna Hare said this:
During the Apollo mission I worked at NASA throughout those Apollo missions and I did leave NASA at the time the space shuttles began. I worked in building eight in the photo lab. I had a secret clearance so I thought I could go anywhere in the building. And I did go into one area that was a restricted area. In this area they developed pictures taken from satellites and also all of the missions, the Apollo missions, flight missions. I went in and I was talking to one of the photographers and developers and he was putting together a mosaic which is a lot of photos, smaller photos into a larger photo pattern. And while I was in there I was trying to learn new methods and new things about the whole organization and I was looking at the pictures and he directed my attention to one area, he said, Look at that. I looked and there was a round oval shaped, well it was a very white circular shape of a dot and I, it was black & white photography, so I asked him if that was a spot on the emulsion and he said, "Well I can't tell you, but spots on the emulsion do not leave round circles of shadows."
I thought about another incident with a guard that I would like to convey too that's very important. This man that I had dated was in quarantine with the astronauts when they had come back from the moon and I had talked to him about seeing this saucer (satellite photos) and asked him if he had heard anything about that and he told me that every astronaut, every moon trip had been followed by craft, by saucers, that every one of them, every astronaut that went to the moon, now I don't know about other sites but they all had seen it and all had been told to keep quite about it and they were threatened with jail and their whole retirement, everything taken away from them. They were also, this told me that if I ever told that he said it, that he would deny it, that he would never admit that he told me all of that.
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/airbrush.htm
During the Apollo mission I worked at NASA throughout those Apollo missions and I did leave NASA at the time the space shuttles began. I worked in building eight in the photo lab. I had a secret clearance so I thought I could go anywhere in the building. And I did go into one area that was a restricted area. In this area they developed pictures taken from satellites and also all of the missions, the Apollo missions, flight missions. I went in and I was talking to one of the photographers and developers and he was putting together a mosaic which is a lot of photos, smaller photos into a larger photo pattern. And while I was in there I was trying to learn new methods and new things about the whole organization and I was looking at the pictures and he directed my attention to one area, he said, Look at that. I looked and there was a round oval shaped, well it was a very white circular shape of a dot and I, it was black & white photography, so I asked him if that was a spot on the emulsion and he said, "Well I can't tell you, but spots on the emulsion do not leave round circles of shadows."
I thought about another incident with a guard that I would like to convey too that's very important. This man that I had dated was in quarantine with the astronauts when they had come back from the moon and I had talked to him about seeing this saucer (satellite photos) and asked him if he had heard anything about that and he told me that every astronaut, every moon trip had been followed by craft, by saucers, that every one of them, every astronaut that went to the moon, now I don't know about other sites but they all had seen it and all had been told to keep quite about it and they were threatened with jail and their whole retirement, everything taken away from them. They were also, this told me that if I ever told that he said it, that he would deny it, that he would never admit that he told me all of that.
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/airbrush.htm
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/airbrush.htm
If you want to rely on Cosmic Dave for your information, that's fine, but don't be surprised by the responses you receive.
If you want to rely on Cosmic Dave for your information, that's fine, but don't be surprised by the responses you receive.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 28 2008, 01:39 PM)
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/airbrush.htm
If you want to rely on Cosmic Dave for your information, that's fine, but don't be surprised by the responses you receive.
If you want to rely on Cosmic Dave for your information, that's fine, but don't be surprised by the responses you receive.
Cosmic Dave? Who the heck is Cosmic Dave? I don't see any mention of 'Cosmic Dave' on the page I linked to. The information I presented is a direct quote from Donna Hare. So I'm relying on Donna Hare,not 'Cosmic Dave'. The quotes from Donna Hare at www.ufos-aliens.co.uk are consistent with her statements on the YOUTUBE.COM video I linked to.
Saw the other info from Super. Edit.
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jan 28 2008, 02:01 PM)
All video is blocked on my work computer. Thats why I needed a transcript. Thanks for trying. 
This is not a word for word transcript of Hare's statements but it is consistent with what she said on the YOUTUBE video:
QUOTE (supercar @ Jan 28 2008, 01:06 PM)
Donna Hare said this:
During the Apollo mission I worked at NASA throughout those Apollo missions and I did leave NASA at the time the space shuttles began. I worked in building eight in the photo lab. I had a secret clearance so I thought I could go anywhere in the building. And I did go into one area that was a restricted area. In this area they developed pictures taken from satellites and also all of the missions, the Apollo missions, flight missions. I went in and I was talking to one of the photographers and developers and he was putting together a mosaic which is a lot of photos, smaller photos into a larger photo pattern. And while I was in there I was trying to learn new methods and new things about the whole organization and I was looking at the pictures and he directed my attention to one area, he said, Look at that. I looked and there was a round oval shaped, well it was a very white circular shape of a dot and I, it was black & white photography, so I asked him if that was a spot on the emulsion and he said, "Well I can't tell you, but spots on the emulsion do not leave round circles of shadows."
I thought about another incident with a guard that I would like to convey too that's very important. This man that I had dated was in quarantine with the astronauts when they had come back from the moon and I had talked to him about seeing this saucer (satellite photos) and asked him if he had heard anything about that and he told me that every astronaut, every moon trip had been followed by craft, by saucers, that every one of them, every astronaut that went to the moon, now I don't know about other sites but they all had seen it and all had been told to keep quite about it and they were threatened with jail and their whole retirement, everything taken away from them. They were also, this told me that if I ever told that he said it, that he would deny it, that he would never admit that he told me all of that.
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/airbrush.htm
During the Apollo mission I worked at NASA throughout those Apollo missions and I did leave NASA at the time the space shuttles began. I worked in building eight in the photo lab. I had a secret clearance so I thought I could go anywhere in the building. And I did go into one area that was a restricted area. In this area they developed pictures taken from satellites and also all of the missions, the Apollo missions, flight missions. I went in and I was talking to one of the photographers and developers and he was putting together a mosaic which is a lot of photos, smaller photos into a larger photo pattern. And while I was in there I was trying to learn new methods and new things about the whole organization and I was looking at the pictures and he directed my attention to one area, he said, Look at that. I looked and there was a round oval shaped, well it was a very white circular shape of a dot and I, it was black & white photography, so I asked him if that was a spot on the emulsion and he said, "Well I can't tell you, but spots on the emulsion do not leave round circles of shadows."
I thought about another incident with a guard that I would like to convey too that's very important. This man that I had dated was in quarantine with the astronauts when they had come back from the moon and I had talked to him about seeing this saucer (satellite photos) and asked him if he had heard anything about that and he told me that every astronaut, every moon trip had been followed by craft, by saucers, that every one of them, every astronaut that went to the moon, now I don't know about other sites but they all had seen it and all had been told to keep quite about it and they were threatened with jail and their whole retirement, everything taken away from them. They were also, this told me that if I ever told that he said it, that he would deny it, that he would never admit that he told me all of that.
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/airbrush.htm
QUOTE (supercar @ Jan 28 2008, 02:03 PM)
This is not a word for word transcript of Hare's statements but it is consistent with what she said on the YOUTUBE video:
Thanks.
This is nothing new... she is part of the disclosure project.
QUOTE (Enigma wrapped in a puzzle @ Jan 28 2008, 08:14 PM)
This is nothing new... she is part of the disclosure project.
....uh huh...............
It won't help them if they go on public...They need to confront big media to expose the truth...
sorry peeps this stories are like grocery weekly sales paper....
sorry peeps this stories are like grocery weekly sales paper....
QUOTE (Graylady @ Jan 28 2008, 08:32 PM)
It won't help them if they go on public...They need to confront big media to expose the truth...
sorry peeps this stories are like grocery weekly sales paper....
sorry peeps this stories are like grocery weekly sales paper....
yeah, sorry, theyre actually not really grocery store papers. those are more 'woman gives birth to batboy' 'family has kept unicorn safe for last 20 years'
and if she was to go to big news media, whos to say theyd believe them. theyd probably say 'ok, thats a nice story. umm, but theres a war going on right now. were supposed to cover that'. maybe the media would be 'afraid' to put it out, thinking others will not take them seriously for showing the story? who knows
QUOTE (supercar @ Jan 28 2008, 12:01 PM)
Cosmic Dave? Who the heck is Cosmic Dave?
You link to his website and you don't know who he is??
Shameful...
Let's "put it" this way...Cosmic Dave is so "out there", he makes skyeagle look like a closed-minded skeptic. I kid you not.
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ Jan 28 2008, 08:16 PM)
....uh huh...............
Not sure I understand this response.
Isnt those bases in the moon proven to be just artifacts in the pictures? I tought nasa had made public high resolutions of moon and there is nothing there.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 28 2008, 03:07 PM)
You link to his website and you don't know who he is??
I just checked the home page of that website. Guess what. No mention of a 'Cosmic Dave' on the home page either. You expect people to know the webmaster of every website they visit? Ridiculous.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 28 2008, 03:07 PM)
Shameful...
If you think that's shameful then I feel sorry for you.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 28 2008, 03:07 PM)
Let's "put it" this way...Cosmic Dave is so "out there", he makes skyeagle look like a closed-minded skeptic. I kid you not.
Yeah I've noticed you attacked Skyeagle just like you attacked me. You have demonstrated a pattern of attacking people on this message board.
QUOTE (Graylady @ Jan 28 2008, 03:32 PM)
It won't help them if they go on public...They need to confront big media to expose the truth...
sorry peeps this stories are like grocery weekly sales paper....
sorry peeps this stories are like grocery weekly sales paper....
Big media has historically stayed away from much of this topic due how its been positioned over the years in the publics eye. Solid sightings/witnesses like the recent Texas events are slowly moving it back off of the tabloids.
As far as this ex-NASA employee goes, her willingness to testify under oath before Congress says a lot.......maybe someday she'll get the chance.
Yeah the vid was originally from the 2001 disclosure project , Steven Greer is beside her.
This came out just before 911 which was bad timing.
Dunno if this is truly a case of mis-information/dis-information.
But who really knows.
This came out just before 911 which was bad timing.
Dunno if this is truly a case of mis-information/dis-information.
But who really knows.
I think they misinterpreted the photos wrong, probably was some dust in the camera lens which looks like bases on the moon.
Or a balloon maybe...
QUOTE (supercar @ Jan 28 2008, 03:48 PM)
...I've noticed you attacked Skyeagle just like you attacked me. You have demonstrated a pattern of attacking people on this message board.
Practically every time I have posted to a "saucer thread", I have been attacked with comments such as "you don't know anything about UFO's", so in my opinion, turn-about is fair play.
Learn the credibility of your sources as you will be "judged" by them.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 11:25 PM)
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QUOTE (supercar @ Jan 28 2008, 03:48 PM)
...I've noticed you attacked Skyeagle just like you attacked me. You have demonstrated a pattern of attacking people on this message board.
...I've noticed you attacked Skyeagle just like you attacked me. You have demonstrated a pattern of attacking people on this message board.
Practically every time I have posted to a "saucer thread", I have been attacked with comments such as "you don't know anything about UFO's", so in my opinion, turn-about is fair play.
Learn the credibility of your sources as you will be "judged" by them.
Hmmm, I seem to remember a thread a little while ago where he decided to attack me for daring to question the credibility of the 'eagles' sources.
Wonder if sky knows that this little one's trying to get all cosy in his tail feathers?
QUOTE (Evangium @ Jan 29 2008, 01:40 PM)
Hmmm, I seem to remember a thread a little while ago where he decided to attack me for daring to question the credibility of the 'eagles' sources.
Original sources for much of my information are the U. S. government and governments from around the globe that can by verified under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and other credible sources such as the Belgian Air Force.
http://www.geocities.com/area51/vault/9054/prescon.jpg
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Practically every time I have posted to a "saucer thread", I have been attacked with comments such as "you don't know anything about UFO's", so in my opinion, turn-about is fair play.
Learn the credibility of your sources as you will be "judged" by them
Learn the credibility of your sources as you will be "judged" by them
Well, you do not know anything about ufos, or cases for that matter, its plain to see on this forum.
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Hmmm, I seem to remember a thread a little while ago where he decided to attack me for daring to question the credibility of the 'eagles' sources.
Wonder if sky knows that this little one's trying to get all cosy in his tail feathers?
Wonder if sky knows that this little one's trying to get all cosy in his tail feathers?
Yeah, i know im not the only one. He is ihnoring me now, which i guess is a good thing because im sick of asking him to back up what he is saying, but he never does.
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ Jan 29 2008, 08:58 AM)
Original sources for much of my information are the U. S. government and governments from around the globe that can by verified under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and other credible sources such as the Belgian Air Force.
How have you independently determined the credibility of the Belgian Air force??
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 06:07 PM)
How have you independently determined the credibility of the Belgian Air force??
Yes!
And, I am very familiar with the data that was presented by the Belgian Air Force at its international press conference.
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How have you independently determined the credibility of the Belgian Air force??
Its not just the begian air force. Many air forces around the world have witnesses ufos.
QUOTE (morrison1976 @ Jan 29 2008, 11:11 PM)
Its not just the begian air force. Many air forces around the world have witnesses ufos.
True, but the Belgian air force has released a few reports of UFOs, where as other countrys keep it hushed up.
Good on the Belgians.
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ Jan 29 2008, 10:09 AM)
Yes!
NO, sky...I didn't ask you "did you determine the credibility...?"...I asked you HOW did you independently determine the credibility of the belgian air force.
Why would you think I wouldn't notice this??
In the future, please answer the ACTUAL questions I ask, and not the ones you "make up" for yourself.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 06:25 PM)
NO, sky...I didn't ask you "did you determine the credibility
They are very credible since we have worked together for years.
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ Jan 29 2008, 10:29 AM)
They are very credible since we have worked together for years.
Oh crap...it's gonna be one of "those" days.
So you determined they were credible because you "worked together for years"??
So this wasn't an independently determined "credibility". It was your own opinion??
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 06:39 PM)
Oh crap...it's gonna be one of "those" days.
Well, you did ask!!
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Oh crap...it's gonna be one of "those" days.
So you determined they were credible because you "worked together for years"??
So this wasn't an independently determined "credibility". It was your own opinion??
So you determined they were credible because you "worked together for years"??
So this wasn't an independently determined "credibility". It was your own opinion??
Sky
He is not going to listen!. And as long as the only thing he is saying is "credible evidence" and thats all, then he wont go cross eyed. Throw him some information, and he will be quite. Trust me! worked for me
QUOTE (morrison1976 @ Jan 29 2008, 06:44 PM)
Sky
He is not going to listen!. And as long as the only thing he is saying is "credible evidence" and thats all, then he wont go cross eyed. Throw him some information, and he will be quite. Trust me! worked for me
He is not going to listen!. And as long as the only thing he is saying is "credible evidence" and thats all, then he wont go cross eyed. Throw him some information, and he will be quite. Trust me! worked for me
He has discredited official documentation and data in the past, but here goes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhy6IsQBko
http://www.scramble.nl/be.htm
http://www.ufocasebook.com/belgianreport.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoBL_Wpx7Fo
http://www.temporaldoorway.com/ufo/analysi...changetable.gif
http://www.temporaldoorway.com/ufo/analysi...rationtable.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQ6W9eduV8
The data regarding the radar, which was released by the Air Force.
17 270 790 5000
18 290 1010 4000
19 290 1000 3000
20 290 990 2000
21 290 990 1000
22 300 990 0000
22.5 300 980 0000 Break lock
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He has discredited official documentation and data in the past, but here goes
Told you
other people take note!
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ Jan 29 2008, 10:57 AM)
He has discredited official documentation and data in the past...
It is not my "problem" that the documentation/data you present isn't convincing to anyone but believers and morrison. (didn't want to leave him out.
)Here's a clue...you're not going to find convincing/credible evidence on Youtube videos or believer sites.
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It is not my "problem" that the documentation/data you present isn't convincing to anyone but believers and morrison. (didn't want to leave him out. )
Here's a clue...you're not going to find convincing/credible evidence on Youtube videos or believer sites.
Here's a clue...you're not going to find convincing/credible evidence on Youtube videos or believer sites.
What do you mean documentation/data isn't convincing. Please inlighten us. Have you reading any of these hundreds of official documents? Do you understand the date evidence in radar? if not, then how can you say this?
You tube is not just full of dodgy hoaxes. You can, if you take the time to look, find alot of information about ufos. Not just believers, but skeptcs too. So are you saying that all photos and videos of ufo's are fake on you tube?
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 07:42 PM)
It is not my "problem" that the documentation/data you present isn't convincing to anyone but believers and morrison. (didn't want to leave him out. )
Here's a clue...you're not going to find convincing/credible evidence on Youtube videos or believer sites.
)Here's a clue...you're not going to find convincing/credible evidence on Youtube videos or believer sites.
actually you do find alot of good info on youtube. because people post Many videos on there, with credible people on them, or producing them. were not talking about a video on someones myspace 'hey, im jack. this is why i think aliens are real'. check out the docs on there.
go watch something like "out of the blue"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZpRcTBwdA
.....Removed Personal insult------
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ Jan 29 2008, 11:52 AM)
...actually you do find alot of good info on youtube.
Yeah, it's almost exactly the same as a peer reviewed paper written for a scientific journal!!
Give me a break.
Let's forgo the nasty remarks, people, or some are going to find it difficult to post anything for a while.
It's getting ridiculous.
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Yeah, it's almost exactly the same as a peer reviewed paper written for a scientific journal!!
Give me a break.
Give me a break.
You need to start looking at the subject for yourself. I just don't know how you can come to your conclusions without even really looking at the subject. This is not the best way to go about things on this forum. Many skeptics on this forum look at cases just as much as i do, and i like that because they take a huge interest, just like me. Thats how you should look at this subject. You will not learn nothing unless you, well, learn.
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 08:40 PM)
Yeah, it's almost exactly the same as a peer reviewed paper written for a scientific journal!!
Give me a break.
Give me a break.
ummmmmmmmmmmmm. no. no break for you until you pay attention.
i cant stress this enough. Dont bring up the video, and Read the comments! WATCH THE VIDEO!!!
they have alota good docs on there, on Numerous subjects. now, are you going to be insanely ignorant and not watch it? or are you going to prove us all wrong? or at least watch some of the other documentaries that are out. i know youre scared, because it would be hell for you to believe in what we seem to, and completely change your opinion. and it would then seem that you lost this battle youve been attempting to fight. but its probably better than everyone on here hating you for how act. so give it a try.
*mods* sorry if that seemed like an insult on the previous post. although i didnt call him that. i told him NOT to be one of those, like others that are out there. hoping he would act different.
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ Jan 29 2008, 12:56 PM)
*mods* sorry if that seemed like an insult on the previous post. although i didnt call him that. i told him NOT to be one of those...
I can't believe that you would insult the intelligence of the mods like that. Boy, you sure do have guts.
Ya know what? I think the best place for you would be right beside morrison on my ignore list...yeah, that would be the best place for you and your insults...
Good bye...
QUOTE (the_UNKNOWN_DEAD @ Jan 29 2008, 09:06 PM)
I can't believe that you would insult the intelligence of the mods like that. Boy, you sure do have guts.
Ya know what? I think the best place for you would be right beside morrison on my ignore list...yeah, that would be the best place for you and your insults...
Good bye...
Ya know what? I think the best place for you would be right beside morrison on my ignore list...yeah, that would be the best place for you and your insults...
Good bye...
ahhhh, so hes not even gonna watch the doc? well, ill be honest, i didnt expect you too. but at least i tried.
it just shows how afraid and childish you really are.
Good. Maybe we won't have to sift thru all this garbage in every thread here.
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