QUOTE (morrison1976 @ Jan 30 2008, 02:15 PM)

You either dont understand what i am saying, or you are just like unknown dead, which one is it?
I dont mind skeptics on this board, in fact, we need them. But what we dont need are people who know nothing about ufo's and the cases, but still come on here and post crap. And yes, he has been insulting sky, look at the posts, and other threads, while sky has just got on with it. Thats what i am saying. If you think unknown dead has done nothing wrong, then thats your opinion, but dont think i said this because i dont agree with his opinion. I just dont like people coming on this board with no knowledge on the subject, you really have to ask yourself why.
Does it matter why people come here?
It seems to me like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth... yeah, you do say you don't mind divergent opinions, but if you don't like what they're based on, you've got no problem questioning their presence here. Augustus Caesar said the Senate was in charge of Rome, too. You say "no knowledge on the subject" but I get the feeling you mean something along the lines of "your knowledge of the subject": there is no definitive answer to what UFOs are*, so there aren't concrete standards to measure knowledge of the subject by. And yelling loudest or believing hardest doesn't make it so -- not that you are doing that yelling at all. But it is, unfortunately, the sort of double standard I've come to expect of Believers based on its endless repetition in several different fora here. Is it fair to everyone? Not completely, no, but neither is it completely unjustified. And I'm always ready to give credit when I'm surprised by its lack.
For example, I'm willing to admit that in this thread anyway, sky has been well behaved and unknown could have been more generous in his responses. But in many other threads, sky /has/ been intolerably rude, demeaning and hypocritical, and it's disingenuous to the point of lying to deny it. (I mean, I'm no saint either, but I do clearly mark my opinions as opinions and not facts, and steer clear of cheap
ad hominem attacks.) I don't think unknown's responses have been grossly out of line with how sky's history on a larger scale than this thread merits.
QUOTE (mailman08 @ Jan 30 2008, 02:48 PM)

this may sound like im the guy outta the film conspiracy , but aliens blatently exist and the goverment and nasa cia etc know all about them and do deals with them in exchange for maybe abductions or whatever else the aliens are interested in for the aliens technology and knowledge on science and so on. think about it, all these gadgets and aircraft like the stealth bomber and so on and guns that can see through walls. its all down to aliens helping us if we help them etc.
and the goverment doesnt think the general public could handle the truth so they keep it under raps and will forever because the majority of the publice couldnt handle it and there would be mass panic.
Yeah, you do. I think you've confused what you believe with what's real (or at the very least, what you can prove up).
--Jaylemurph