Bill Maher will just tell him to f*** off and stop acting like a child just because someone doesn't believe in Jesus.

Why do catholics and Mr Donohue in particular take extra offense to criticisms of christianity? Is it because Catholicism is the most violent and anti-human sect? Do they feel they are somehow more right than everyone else because they are the biggest sect in the world?

lol Bill Maher. and the fact that there is more 'proof ' for aliens than God , really , just makes if that much more funny.

a boxing match. where he says he'll floor Maher. ah christianity at work.

I also wonder if behind that anger isn't a bit of fear that on the outside chance it could be possible - lol.

I find it ironic that when I was catholic I hated men like Mr. Donohue and the Catholic League much much much more than I do now that I'm non religious. I used to think (and I think rightly so) that they give Catholics in general a bad rap. Now I just look at people like that and roll my eyes and kindve smirk to myself.

Just to point out that modern Catholicism is neither violent nor anti-human. There is no longer an inquisition, the catholic church doesn't have the power or influence to torture or kill people, and they don't even have the political influence that they once had.

Surely, the evils done by the catholic church in the past are near unforgivable, but the church has also done much charity and good things.

As an ex catholic, I bear no great bias toward the catholic church, but calling modern catholicism the "most voilent and anti-human sect" isn't accurate. It's not even accurate to call them a sect. That statement just smacks of tremendous bias.

Worse than the church's own past? I'd think that was sufficiently damning itself.



Just because it changed its name doesn't mean it's not still around. It just lacks ability. I don't see it as much different from some of the more right-wing skin-head groups and Nazi beliefs.

--Jaylemurph

What's wrong with a religious group having an organization that enforces it's doctrine among it's members? They can't force people to convert, they can't torture or kill people. Every organization has a way of maintaining and enforcing it's doctrine. To imply that the inquisition is still around, when we all know that "inquisition" implies torture and execution, is ridiculous and a little zealous.




Maybe you don't know Catholic doctrine, then? The modern Catholic Church is decidely non-violent and anti-racist. You can't make a statement that you don't see much difference between Nazis and Catholics and be taken seriously.

I meant that as in they seem to give the current modern incarnation of the Catholic Church as a mostly benevolent religious organization a bad rap. I personally have never had a problem with Catholicism or Catholics. I think the Catholic church is a decidedly moderate organization that I mostly agree with, the key word here being mostly. There are certain things that I disagree with (the anti-birth control stance for one), but over all I give the Catholic Church a thumbs up as far as religious organizations go. I mean, compared to alot of modern zealots, I totally dont have a problem with religious men and women who over all seem to mind their own business. Of course, this is just my experience with Catholicism (which is decidedly biased because I was raised Catholic), but my experiences dictate that I'd much rather listen to the opinions of someone like Pope John Paul II as opposed to nutters like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Not that there aren't nutters in the Catholic Church, of course.

Edit: I forgot to say that yes, the Catholic Church does have a pretty messed up past, I'm most deffinately not going to argue that one with you.

They are a sect of christianity, how could I not call them that? They might not consider themselves a sect. And before you go on about the charity that the catholic church has done, look at how they exploited Mother Teresa as a modern day saint. She couldn't believe any of it but they told her to keep pretending because it's good for the churches image.

And what about in Africa, saying that AIDS is bad but condom use is worse, contributing to the spread of the disease.

It's shed most of it's violence, and only fairly recently. It still has dogma based around feeling guilty for being human, and it still contributes to massive amounts of overpopulation in south america.

right but if you say it about Islam its ok then ! LOL