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anarkhy




As the title says, two questions:


1) Which event changed your mind, made you believe there are aliens from another world visiting our planet, or what makes you believe that all the ufos are misinterpreted visions?


2) What are the chances you give for aliens visitation or not. Example: 60% for aliens be here and 40% for not.






anarkhy
For me, are events like this, reported by professionals and military pilots that make the possibility of ufos be extraterrestrial artifacts.


And the probability i would say, with the information i have today: 50% for ETs and 50% misleading reports.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (anarkhy @ Feb 1 2008, 07:57 PM) *
For me, are events like this, reported by professionals and military pilots that make the possibility of ufos be extraterrestrial artifacts.


And the probability i would say, with the information i have today: 50% for ETs and 50% misleading reports.


Excluding my own experience and those of my compatriots, there are incidents that occur more often than is reported. In other words, the public is unaware of the overwhelming majority of UFO encounters that have taken place in our skies because they are not reported to the media, and the public is largely unaware that the UFOs in question fly overhead everyday, and tracked on radar, yet they are unware because the objects are too high to be seen visually during daylight hours.

People go to work everyday and then come home and watch TV, and totally unaware that doing their working hours, Air Force jets somewhere around the world had encountered UFOs whose performance characteristics were far beyond our technological knowledge involving such exotic flying platforms.

There are radar operators who see the UFOs in question so often, they are no longer a "big thing" with them anymore, but they do not report their trackings to the media either, and that is another reason why the public is unaware of what is actually going on overhead.

I have long be aware of those facts for many years, and in fact, just last year, I was talking to a retired radar expert who was once stationed at Minot AFB, and that was one of the things we were talking about.

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Radar/Visual UFO

UFOS are detected by military radar. When these detection is confirmed by visual observation, there is no place left for "meteorological" or "astronomical" explanation or so-called "temperature inversion." When speed measurements are made, there is no space left for blaming observers for subjectivity errors. When an entire bomber crew reports, there is no space left for "psychological" dismissal.


http://ufologie.net/htm/coleman52.htm
Lightning88
I don't need a specific event to belive.as vast as space is,to think we are alone is not very bright in my opinion.

as for ufo's i give a 85% chance aliens have been here already.things that make me belive so are crop circles and massive ammounts of ufo sightings.I give it a10% chance that they will visit in the future if they havent already.an a 5% chance they never have been here.

with all the sightings we have had and the size of space i feel there must be other life.weather its been here yet or not.
Scudbuster
It's the testimony of the many (well over a few hundred now I believe) ex military types describing their personal experiences. Some could be charlatans or publicity seekers, but the vast majority I feel are quite far from that.
FireMoon
Shag Harbour and Operation Mainbrace woudl be the two events that suggest that the phenomenon is something outside of human control but under an intelligent outside influence

As for the ET hypothesis.. multi dimensional would be closer, i think...
PryOpenUr3rdEye
QUOTE (anarkhy @ Feb 1 2008, 01:45 PM) *
As the title says, two questions:


1) Which event changed your mind, made you believe there are aliens from another world visiting our planet, or what makes you believe that all the ufos are misinterpreted visions?


2) What are the chances you give for aliens visitation or not. Example: 60% for aliens be here and 40% for not.


From day one I believed UFOs were alien, before I even heard the battles between skeptics and believers. A gut feeling is my answer to the question. No skeptic or believer has an effect on my own personal views on the world. Its is my own personal perspective in this world, you don't have it, you don't know it, nor do I know anything of your perspective. You may have concluded things differently with the same information.

As for alien visitation, I would say 70% for being here/had been here.
Aristocrates
I'd say shag harbour and and 1997 phoenix lights are the cases that I truly think and wonder about.
wierd_stuff
roswell for me, and i give a 50/50 for the chances
Sardukar
I give a 99% chance intelligent beings have visited Earth sometime during its 5 billion year history. However NOTHING sais any UFO is of ET origin so a % chance can not be given. However i have seen a UFO myself (still doesnt prove anything) and phoenix lights are very interesting.
KILLUMANATI
Why and How UFO's can be ET?

The way they move, ancient history, paintings, drawings, and glifs.

Visitation?

soon.....within the next 10 yrs soon.
Cold.
Roswell, The Phoenix Lights, Shag Harbour... they all leave me to conclude that these objects are being piloted by extraterrestrial intelligence.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (Alienated Being @ Feb 2 2008, 04:17 AM) *
Roswell, The Phoenix Lights, Shag Harbour... they all leave me to conclude that these objects are being piloted by extraterrestrial intelligence.


Eventually, disclosure will be made that the UFOs in question, are not ours and I don't expect the same thing to happen as on January 22, 1958, the next time around.

The censors at CBS pulled the audio plug on "Live TV," and as one CBS official said, it was done "in the interest of national security."

I am sure that what was being revealed, had nothing to do with weather balloons.

anarkhy



I see people very confident with the disclosure, how long is gonna take until we have a definitive proof of ets visitation?


Cold.
QUOTE (anarkhy @ Feb 4 2008, 12:59 AM) *
I see people very confident with the disclosure, how long is gonna take until we have a definitive proof of ets visitation?

Well, we've been seeing an increase in people coming forward with testimonials and more government-based organizations releasing files about flying saucers, or UFOs as a whole. Perhaps the US will eventually swallow its pride and reveal that what happened in July of '47 was NOT project mogul... and that it WAS an ET craft being piloted by intelligent beings. Skeptics can debunk all they want, but it's not going to change my knowledge.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (anarkhy @ Feb 4 2008, 04:59 AM) *
I see people very confident with the disclosure, how long is gonna take until we have a definitive proof of ets visitation?


The way things are going now, I would say around 10-15 years, if even that long!

The U. S. government has been releasing its declassified UFO files over the years, amongst them, a UFO letter released by the National Archives that was written by Dr. Carl Sagan, which, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, surprised some folks at the National Archives! Official UFO documents are available under the FOIA, some which have already been covered on this board. Contents of Dr. Sagan's letter were not revealed, but knowing Dr. Sagan's position on UFOs, they were surprised at what was cotained in his letter.

Major Donald Keyhoe revealed on video, "Project Saucer file #75," which in effect, confirming what I have been saying all along that some UFOs are actually alien spacecraft and the government knew it all along, but then again, that is what the Air Force said in its 1948, EOTS report, Wright-Patterson AFB, which was basically backed by its 1952 intelligence report on flying saucer maneuvers. It was written by Major Dewey Fournet, USAF, who also confirmed the Air Force's EOTS report. General Hoyt Vandenberg, USAF, eventually ordered the EOTS declassified and destroyed.

I might add that it was Major Keyhoe who was cut off by the censors on "Live TV" by the censors of CBS, which was done in the interest of national security. He also provided support for the movie; "Earth vs. The Flying Saucers, which I heard, the idea came from the UFO incidents that took place over Washington D.C. in July 1952.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049169/

Other countries have been releasing their own UFO case files and I expect the number of countries to grow in that respect as the years roll on. There are currently, government civilian and military personnel and former government workers who are witnesses to UFO incidents and want disclosure to be made right now, and I am one of them.

It is just a matter of time before the President of the United States makes it official, but then again, the President would also know that in doing so, he will change the course of human history forever, and do it for better or worse, and there will be no turning back once "Pandora's Box" is opened.

In doing so, when we all wake up the next day, the world will never be the same, and the responsibility of what happens next will rest on the shoulders of the President of the United States, so I say, what President will have the courage to disclose what many of us already know?
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