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NEW YORK - In front of a shuttered Chinatown store, artist Nate Hill rummaged through a pile of trash, fishing for the tools of his craft in someone else's garbage.



"Oh, look, a flounder!" he said, as he dug in one bin wearing blue surgical gloves and drew out a quivering white slip of fish. "Does anyone want some? I think there's more."

There were no immediate takers among the half dozen or so people who had followed Hill on a drizzly night for a tour of his favorite spots for digging through Chinatown garbage.

The goal: Find interesting dead animals to make into art.

The 30-year-old artist has been using animal carcasses to craft his "animal kingdom," as he refers to it, since 1999. The results are grotesque or sculptural, depending on your point of view. In Hill's hands, a puppy's head just as easily goes with a turkey neck and fish bladder as armadillo fingernails and birds' legs make abstract art-in-a-jar.

The monthly Chinatown tour, which sometimes draws dozens of people for a sojourn rife with the stink of rotting fish, is billed as educational, but it's mostly performance: The artist often shows up in costume, most recently as an army parachutist.

"I'm totally self-taught," he said. "To put it simply, what I do is cut up the animals, I sew them together in a different way, and then I submerge them in rubbing alcohol to preserve them."

He considers himself a member of a loosely defined group of "rogue taxidermists" who sidestep the traditional craft of taxidermy that aims to make lifelike replicas by preserving and stuffing animal skins. Along with the garbage cans of Chinatown, he said gets most of his animals from hunters, roadkill and taxidermists.

At the same time Hill's artwork attracts a following of hipsters, it raises questions from traditional taxidermists and even his fellow artists, including one of his collaborators.

"I'm a vegetarian," said comedian and musician Jessica Delfino, who has been a narrator on two episodes of "Chop Chop," a video series Hill produces that is posted on YouTube. "I do have mixed feelings. I do think art is important. And I think animals are sacred."

She said she was not so sure she could narrate another episode of Hill's videos.

One episode has Hill sewing together parts of a rabbit, a duck and a chicken. That video was taken down from YouTube following complaints.

Asked about the ethics of his art, Hill responds: "I eat meat. I feel like we can use animals to enrich us ... physically as well as mentally."

John Janelli, a board member of the National Taxidermy Association and a working taxidermist in New Jersey, said there's no comparison between what he does and Hill's methods.

"That's not taxidermy," Janelli said. "That's a concoction."

Janelli, a historian of sorts on the subject, said such "novelty taxidermy" is not new, and has in the past included the piecing together of different animals to create creatures that don't exist in nature. But he said that to qualify as taxidermy, traditional techniques must be used.

A few years ago, a group of artists formed the Minnesota Association of Rogue Taxidermists. Robert Marbury, an artist and founding member of the group, said that much of the works produced by its members evoke themes of reuse and recycling in a time of heightened environmental concern.

"Traditional taxidermists would not think twice that this is in the same realm," he said.

Hill said he felt more like a "folk" artist, given his lack of formal training in the arts. His intent, he said, is similar to "the guy who sits in his basement and has his train set, and he has all the people and he makes mountains ... that's the kind of thing that I want, but I want to make it with real flesh."

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On the Net:

Minnesota Rogue Taxidermists: http://www.roguetaxidermy.com/

I really think i,d get sick when looking for supplies! Even though when he uses alcahol when actually working with it, finding and bringing it back has got to make anyone but the toughest gag and want to puke! I,ve never seen his work, but i sure hope by the time it,s done it doesn,t smell and attrackting flys to where it,s displayed!
Lightning88
thats disgusting. he shoul be in a mentel hospital,thats my opinion
~ MacDDT ~
This guy has got to get a girlfreind! (I know what your thinking and I agree with you no.gif ... where's "Hitch" when you need him!)
The_Scorpion
How disrespectful to the dead mellow.gif
jaylemurph
QUOTE (swtp @ Feb 2 2008, 04:21 PM) *
I really think i,d get sick when looking for supplies! Even though when he uses alcahol when actually working with it, finding and bringing it back has got to make anyone but the toughest gag and want to puke! I,ve never seen his work, but i sure hope by the time it,s done it doesn,t smell and attrackting flys to where it,s displayed!


Maybe that's part of his attempt...

QUOTE (The_Scorpion @ Feb 3 2008, 03:22 PM) *
How disrespectful to the dead mellow.gif


Why respect the dead? By definition, they wouldn't know or care about it.

--Jaylemurph
Tooth_and_Claw
ok.......

He scares me!
Relle
He would get along great with an "artist" here in Winnipeg. She hung dead rabbits from a tree in the name of art. I believe she even got a government grant to do it!

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In 1999, local artist Diana Thorneycroft was granted $15,000 from the Canada Council for the Arts for Monstrance - an installation for which she sewed photos into rabbit carcasses hung from trees, the idea being that the photos would be revealed to viewers as the bodies decomposed.

Source: Uptown Magazine
The CBC
~Onyx~
This reminds me of something. I had a family friend help me with my "pigeon problem" awhile back, I left for the day and when I came back...there they were....three of them...all hanging by they're little feet...... dontgetit.gif ....Apparently, this looney tune decided that the pigeon need a visual deterent, like a scarecrow, so after "disposing' of three of the offenders, he strung them up by they're claws and hung them from the back eave(where they had been attempting to roost) to "make an example of them"...I was NOT amused. I got pretty pissed-off and told them to take them down, I asked him "what the hell do you think this is, the Sopranos? You wacked some pigeons to send a message to the rest of the 5 pigeon families!!??"

If making "art" outta dead fish keeps this guy from downloading porn from the internet all day, then god bless 'em.
BiffSplitkins
Wow - this guy really is some sort of nut-case. He's got some kind of Bible Rewrite project.

http://youngmanhattanite.com/2007/04/bible...te-project.html
glorybebe
QUOTE (BiffSplitkins @ Feb 4 2008, 08:01 AM) *
Wow - this guy really is some sort of nut-case. He's got some kind of Bible Rewrite project.

http://youngmanhattanite.com/2007/04/bible...te-project.html



This is not art to me. Yuck!
Mcr13
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How disrespectful to the dead


I agree. Even though they are animals, it's not very respectful to use their dead bodies to make into some kind of "amusement".
Bear's Quest
Isn't there are artist like this every day using a different pavement called 'roadkill?' hmm.gif
nickle_3536
There's an artist who makes art out human remains. People actually donate their remains so that they can become one of his works of art. I saw something about this on tv once. I have to say that dead animals, or humans for that matter, are an unusual medium for creating art, but art is different to everyone. A masterpiece to one person may be trash to another. While these individuals' art doesn't do anything for me, this is how they choose to express themselves, thereby making it art to them. If it allows them to express themselves and it's not hurting anyone, I say more power to 'em!
Neith
QUOTE (~Onyx~ @ Feb 4 2008, 10:50 AM) *
I asked him "what the hell do you think this is, the Sopranos? You wacked some pigeons to send a message to the rest of the 5 pigeon families!!??"


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Pelican_Eel
Well...I'll keep my opinion to myself and just say that this is, of course, not new.
Damien Hirst and his "away from the flock"
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Also Joseph Beuys and his "how to explain paintings to a dead hare"...

what about the famous jackalope?
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Pelican_Eel
and this one I photographed in Germany, in a shop. I think it's good that this guy is searching for dead animals in trash, not kill them to make stupid things like this:
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goalienan
Click to view attachment I think going through the garbabe cans for art is disgusting....I mean look at this poor guy, they just left him there in the road and painted the yellow lines over hiim..... mellow.gif
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