darkbreed
Feb 4 2008, 11:01 PM
Originally some tips I wrote to a guy who pm'ed me, but I think it may come in handy for other people as well so I'm posting what I told him here:
To get to the basics first: Don't try to astral project at night or when you are very tired, as this most certainly will lead you to black out / fall asleep instead of having a successful projection. Are you doing it in the night? If so this is probably the reason. The best time of day to astral project is in the morning just when you've waked up, or in the middle of day or afternoon / evening. The night is usually the worst time to try as your body and mind is too tired then. Morning is usually the best of them all, as your mind and body is rested, and already in a close state to astral projection from just having slept, so if you just lay still and try to project then this can be successful.
Here is a couple methods you may want to try out:
1. -Wake up, Get up, and go back to bed:
This means, you should put your alarm clock to wake you a bit earlier than normal, lets say 6 hours of sleep and then make your alarm clock wake you up. Then, get up from bed, and do something for 30 min to 1 hour to get yourself awake - it is STRONGLY helpful if you spent this time with reading some books or other material about astral projection as this will affect your subcounscious mind to make it easier for you to astral project.
In any case, after 30min to 1 hour, go back to bed, and do any astral projection method and you may find that it is much easier to get into the state of mind needed and then project from there.
2.
The "Stay awake" method:
Here you simply go to bed when you are tired and have your eyes open. You may blink of course now and then so your eyes doesnt dry up. The point is to just lie in your bed with your eyes open just like if you are awake and just look around in the room and notice everything in the room, take care of looking at all details and making it imprinted into your mind, just lie there in bed with your eyes open until you pass out / fall asleep from being too tired. At this point you may find yourself in your astral body, or in the astral state ready to project, because your body is asleep but your mind/astral body should still be awake as you forced yourself to stay awake - it was your body falling asleep. To enhance this method you can repeat over and over some times like a mantra or self-suggestion in your mind "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" - this can increase the effect and program your mind to automatically become aware inside your astral body when you fall asleep.
3. Self suggestions:
This is basically like last part of the above mentioned method, but instead you do any astral projection method of your choice, and you simply say to yourself over and over "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" or something similar, for example "I will now enter my astral body and project out of my physical" etc. You get the Idea original.gif
4. Imagine yourself where you want to go:
In this method, you simply go to bed, and you think of the place you want to project- it can be as simple as your own bedroom. The point is to try visualize the place, lets use your bedroom in this example, as good as possible and feel yourself being there. Now, in this example since you are imagining that you are in your bedroom, you should focus your attention and awareness on a specific place in the bedroom away from your physical body. This can be for example the ceiling - imagine yourself floating right under your ceiling, try to really FEEL yourself being up there and how it would feel to float there right under the ceiling. At one point you may feel yourself starting to vibrate or float, then try to increase this feeling and make it stronger, until you separate and find yourself floating under the ceiling. This method is specially useful if you already are able to get into the astral projection state without trouble, when in this state just do as I described. It also helps using self suggestions here too like in the examples mentioned above.
You can of course also use any other "target" of your choice but its best to use a place you know very well, such as the place of family or friends, and visualize and try feel yourself there, as in the example above with the ceiling.
5. Lucid dreams:
If you are able to have lucid dreams (dreams where you know you are dreaming and you are very aware) you can project astrally from these dreams very easy- Just focus your attentions and "will" yourself out of body, just imagine yourself flying out of the dream and out of your physical body and you are free and out flying. If you dont know about lucid dreams or how to achieve them, do a search on google, its tons of info on it out there and for some people this method is more effective than any of the others.
6. Body awareness
In this methods, you try send your awareness out of your body and move it around in different ways etc.. For example, you lie in your bed, and imagine and feel yourself floating out to the right all the way to the wall, then bounce back into your body, through your body, and out on the left side and to the wall on left of you. Then send awareness back again through your body to the right wall etc, just continue doing this for a while, sending your awareness back and forth from right to left, trying to really feel yourself being at those places and feeling yourself floating through your body and out on the other side. After having done this for several minutes, move on to trying to imagine and feel yourself bouncing up and down instead, like sending your awareness up from your body and up to the ceiling, then back down through your body and down to the ground. Repeat this too for a while, and move on to another part: Back and Forth, this means try to feel yourself floating out of your feet and feel your awareness outside your body moving down to the wall by the end of your feet, then move back up through your body and out of your head to the wall at end of your head (if your head, or any other side of your body, is placed directly towards a wall, just imagine yoursel floating through that wall some meters)
Then try to imagine yourself on gentle ocean waves, floating up and down, rocking your body softly up and down, from side to side, back and forth etc. Try to really feel how it would be to lie floating on ocean waves being moved around. You should start feeling your body moving up and down etc just like you actually were on waves. At any point you feel like it you may try to project out of your body.
This method alone can be enough to get you out, but it is also a "loosening" method that makes you aware of your astral body, and makes it more loose and disconnected from your physical body, so actually this method can be something you start with to loosen yourself up from your physical, and then you can do any other astral projection method after it to increase the effects and be more sure to have an astral projection.
7. Ask for help
Yes, you can ask your guides (spirit guides, and guardian angels) to help you out. This has shown to be a very useful method for me. As you are in the state of astral projection, trying to project, simply say out loud in your mind "I ask for help to get out!" or "Please help me get out of my body my dear spirit guides!" or "I would be really greatful for any help I can get to fly out of my body!" and so on. And, you may then suddenly feel like somebody is grabbing your hands and pulling you out, or even like someone is lifting your body up in the air etc. Your spirit guides are always there ready to assist and help you - even when you are out of your body you may ask them to come to help you with different things or to teach you things (an spirit guide actually taught me a method of astral projection)
You may of course try to alter these methods and mix them in a way you prefer and that feels more comfortable or easier for you, as every person is different and some things that work for some might not work for others - but at least now you got several different methods to try out here.
Once you actually DO get out, you may find it useful to say out loud "AWARENESS NOW!" if you find yourself a bit sluggish and not so aware, and also "CONTROL NOW!" if you find difficulties in moving around properly as you want, and even "CLARITY NOW!" if you find you dont see well etc.
THE IMPORTANCE OF DIARIES:
The trick is to get your memory back with you. It's kind of the same problem as with dreams, sometimes we just remember vague parts of them. This is due to what is called the mind-split effect:
When you go out of your body, you are aware of your astral body, and your mind is focused in the astral body. At the same time, your physical body and physical brain is sleeping, and the physical brain is recording whatever the physical body experiences (which is just sleeping). So, when you get back, you have to "overwrite" this physical bodys memory with your astral bodys memory. The best way to do this is to start slowly, by just keeping out some seconds at a time, like 10 seconds, then return to your body while thinking "I will remember this!" and immediately get up from bed and write down your whole experience.
Then you can try to keep out longer and longer for each time you project. Every time you are about to go back to your body, say out loud "I will remember this!". You may also make an affirmation while performing your astral projection method of choice too, where you say to yourself "I will now go out of body and be completely aware in my astral body and remember everything that happens when I return to my physical body".
Every time after projecting, or even trying to projecting and thinking you have failed, write down in a special diary that you have just for this purpose everything you can remember about the experience, all details, from the very beginning of the projection (such as what method you used, sensations you felt before projection, sensations at the moment of separation, sensations and feelings after, things you saw, experienced and so on while out, sensations on moment of re-entering your body, etc) - Write it all down, and read through it after you wrote it down to see if you remember more you can add. Then just let go of the diary or the rest of the day, and later in the evening or night, read through the experience again and maybe you'll notice you remember more details, more things starting to come into your mind.
This diary, if done every time as I just told, will greatly improve your astral projection skills - even just reading it before trying to project will help a lot! Heck, and place it under your pillow at night and when trying to project to further improve the results.
In addition to your Astral Projection Diary, you should keep a Dream Diary. This is a separate diary, where you write down all dreams you have EVERY morning when you wake up - just as with the astral diary, write down everything you can remember from the dreams you had the night before you just woke up. Then read through it once and see if more details can be added, and as with the astral diary, read through it another time later in the evening or day, to see if you perhaps remember even more.
The purpose of this is to increase your dream memory as well as your astral abilities - in total it will make you better at both remembering your dreams, recalling your astral adventures, and becoming a more skilled and good astral projector. In addition, it will start making your dreams more spiritual in nature, you will start to have spontaneous projections at night while sleeping without even trying, that you will either remember in the morning, or you will wake up in the night and remember it after getting back to your body (remember to write down these experiences too!).
It is very important and of great help and assistance for yourself and your spiritual development to do this. I can't stress that enough, you really should get both an Astral Diary, and a Dream Diary, and write down in both of them every day (or at least every morning in the Dream Diary, and every time you try to project, or have a spontaneous projection in the Astral Diary).
It will also be a good reference for you to check your improvement later on, and to go back and review specific episodes and experiences. And it will be great to have it all logged so you can go back and re-read any experience or interesting dream you've had at any time you want to. And as said, reading these diaries both before astral projecting or going to sleep will greatly improve both your astral skills as well as your dreams.
Reading astral projection related books and litterature on the internet etc will also help, as your subcounscious mind will absorb it and put it into work and help you in the background to develop your astral abilities and make you have them more easier.
With all my best wishes for success, and hope you'll have some new interesting astral adventures this night too! (Or try do it in the morning or day as I suggested as its easier then than in the night)
Regards,
Edward Alexander
Heartagram3200
Feb 4 2008, 11:25 PM
Hehe...I'm the guy that pm'd him! LOL...Hey drakbreed, do you know any methods that once I get out, it will kind of throw me out, i need a way to get out so that I know I'm out of body. Not like last night when once I got out, I didn't relize it until hours after I woke up, I just sat at my bed staring around my room, unaware I was asleep, so I think if i was thrown out, or i got out in a way that keeps me away from thinking that its normal to be there(like my bed, moving nera my dresser or something might help) then i'll rleize im out of body and I cna do stuff...thanks!
darkbreed
Feb 4 2008, 11:49 PM
Well my best advice is to follow the directions I've given you, and you'll see yourself floating out sooner than you might think. However, astral projection is something that usually takes some time to learn, though some people are more lucky and can master it rather quickly.
When it comes to your wish about being "thrown out", well that should not really be necessary as once you just float up and find yourself floating under the ceiling, you'll know you are out anyway. So, when you are there in bed, just think about flying out, try to feel yourself floating, and even ask for help to be pulled out - actually that may be the trick you are looking for, if you just ask for help, someone might just help you getting "thrown out"

Give it a shot, and good luck mate!
Heartagram3200
Feb 5 2008, 12:16 AM
Well, i have been practicing for 2 weeks. But the thing is, I can't really imagine floating when I'm already out, because I don't relise I am out...That was the first time, so if it happens again tonight I bet I will notice at first. And I am afraid to try and ask because I have read that doing that without specificing who or ehat you wnat to hep you can admit entities to get u out and cause you harm of frighten you..
darkbreed
Feb 5 2008, 01:20 AM
Ask for the true angels of God and divine protection to be with you, and that only those true spirit guides that are there for you to help and guide you will be the ones able to help you out and be there with you. Then, by the protection of the higher divine, you will not need to worry about any "bad" entities coming around. Not that they normally do in any case. I've been astral projection for more than a decade, 12-13 years or so now, and I can count on one hand the negative experiences I've had, and they weren't really that bad.
So, don't worry, just ask for guidance and help and if you are open and trust yourself and the divine, the help will come. If you still prefer to not ask for help that's ok too, just continue practicing, I say you got pretty good results already from only 2 weeks of practice.
Just flow with the experience and you'll get there soon, at some point you'll find yourself popping outta that body and be floating around in yer room (or maybe somewhere else too, depends).
So, good luck mate and keep up the good work! Read through my original tips and suggestions, and try keep to them and try out the different methods, and remember to keep the diaries I mentioned, it is very important and very useful to assure greater success.
Cheers!
Heartagram3200
Feb 5 2008, 02:42 PM
Thanks! Yea, last night had nothing, I think I lost the concentration, because when It worked 2 nights ago I was relle focused, last night I wasn't, hopefully I will be this time...
darkbreed
Feb 5 2008, 07:23 PM
Try the morning, middle of day or evening as I suggested.
It might show more useful and give better results and make you recall the experiences easier as well.
And don't forget those diaries

Good luck and keep on practicing!
Equaly Infinite
Feb 6 2008, 10:22 AM
Hey,
I have found that by simply imagining yourself getting bigger works very well.
I just imagine that I am filling the room and then once I feel comfortable with that I move outside and look down at my house, I just slowly imagine myself becoming bigger until I am amongst the stars.
Don't imagine yourself becoming further away just bigger.
I have to agree with darkbreed, I find it much easier to achieve this in the morning after a good sleep.
darkbreed
Feb 6 2008, 12:24 PM
Yeah getting bigger is also a method I've heard people use. It is interesting to not that when you are in the astral realms, you can actually manipulate your size, or the size of any part of your body (no naughty ideas now kids

) and expand yourself in any direction. So it does makes sense, if you are able to feel and visualize yourself growing bigger until you're expanded out in the room, and even further if you want as Equaly Infintite does by expanding himself all the way out to the universe.
Good tip, and please feel free to add suggestions anyone who have other successful methods they are using, as one person once said (can't remember the name) there is as many methods as there is people out there on how to astral project.
So keep up the good work and just practice various methods until you find one that "clicks" for you - it may be one of your own that you never read about anywhere! If so please do share it:)
Best wishes,
Edward Alexander
Heartagram3200
Feb 6 2008, 03:12 PM
Hey darkbreed, I havebeen slightly sick with a cold for the past two days and I haven't been able to even get the signs...But is it because I'm sick? Because its kind of hard to sleep in the first place...Should I not even try until I get better?
darkbreed
Feb 6 2008, 09:43 PM
You can still keep on practicing though it may be harder when you are sick and have hard time relaxing etc. On the other hand, many people experienced their first OBEs when they were sick as your body is weak then, specially when lack of sleep is also a problem, so you may get something out of it in any case.
Best of luck, and be well soon!
Heartagram3200
Feb 6 2008, 11:19 PM
thanks
nothing big though
just a slight cough, little bit of uncomfort when tryin to sleep...thats it...
HolyRocketPropelledGrenade
Feb 7 2008, 08:05 AM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 4 2008, 05:01 PM)

2.
The "Stay awake" method:
Here you simply go to bed when you are tired and have your eyes open. You may blink of course now and then so your eyes doesnt dry up. The point is to just lie in your bed with your eyes open just like if you are awake and just look around in the room and notice everything in the room, take care of looking at all details and making it imprinted into your mind, just lie there in bed with your eyes open until you pass out / fall asleep from being too tired. At this point you may find yourself in your astral body, or in the astral state ready to project, because your body is asleep but your mind/astral body should still be awake as you forced yourself to stay awake - it was your body falling asleep. To enhance this method you can repeat over and over some times like a mantra or self-suggestion in your mind "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" - this can increase the effect and program your mind to automatically become aware inside your astral body when you fall asleep.
5. Lucid dreams:
If you are able to have lucid dreams (dreams where you know you are dreaming and you are very aware) you can project astrally from these dreams very easy- Just focus your attentions and "will" yourself out of body, just imagine yourself flying out of the dream and out of your physical body and you are free and out flying. If you dont know about lucid dreams or how to achieve them, do a search on google, its tons of info on it out there and for some people this method is more effective than any of the others.
I have tried both of these methods too, but I dont usually leave the room I have gone right up to the door and I get stuck and cant picture the door opening for me or me going through it. Concentrating and focusing on something in the room has also helped me, but I usually get stuck doing that.
Rapidly waking up and going back to sleep also has helped me as well as a night of FPS zombie/alien killing or a really good scary movie. I usually will myself out by reminding myself that its just a dream, and proof I enter that transition. Sometimes I have to die/get eaten in my dreams before I can will myself out. I can also do it when I start the dream knowing im dreaming, then its a lot easier to get the process going.
Im gonna try some of the other methods too! Thanks for posting this info! I thought I was the only crazy one flying around in my sleep
Heartagram3200
Feb 7 2008, 04:50 PM
I have tried lucid dreaming...but I havent been having dreams in a few days...still sick though, it has been hell getting to sleep lately, im prolly jus not gonna try it till i get better, so i wont be tired when i try...
zorgblar
Feb 8 2008, 12:21 PM
Cool tips darkbreed i see you mentioned useing self-suggestions.For some reason that is the only thing that works for me.
darkbreed
Feb 11 2008, 08:02 PM
Some extra suggestions on how to improve astral projection skills and get in touch with spirit guides and guardian angels. Actually this post is some answers I wrote to someone who pm'ed me but I feel it might be helpful and useful for some people here too so I'll paste what I wrote to him - ignore the part about the haunted house unless you have problems with that of course, but all the rest you should take notice of and it will greatly improve your skills and connection with the divine masters such as your own spirit guides and guardian angels, as well as the mighty arch angels. Here goes:
In any case, regarding the spirit guides and guardian angels etc, you can do a ritual first to evoke the arch angels and ask them to watch over and protect you and ask them to make sure only your own personal spirit guides and guardian angels are allowed to enter and contact you. I wrote about the whole ritual somewhere else. Here is the link
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=116089I highly recommend you to always perform the LBRP as outlined above before any spiritual work as it protects you and at same time strengthens your abilities and expands your aura and cleanses you and your surroundings for any negative energies.
Then do your astral projection, call on spirit guides etc, actually I add a specific part while doing the LBRP where I do the following: after evoking the arch angels, I ask them for help and guidance, protection and healing etc, then I write a letter to my spirit guides and guardian angels, and read it out for them and ask them to be the witnesses and to carry the message out to my guardian angels and spirit guides and make sure it reaches them (in the letter i basically ask them to please be with me on my side, to help and assist me, and to reveal themselves for me and heal, protect and guide me and so on).
Then after the whole ritual, I do another ritual where I burn the letter ritualistically and imagine the letter going up through the smoke to the astral planes reaching my angels and spirit guides.
I also have a second letter I have written to them, that I always have in front of me on my altar when doing the rituals and also read out loud for the arch angels, but this second letter I keep and put under my pillow every night, and I also read it out loud to my angels or just in silence before going to bed with it under my pillow.
Actually I recommend you get this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Guides-Angel-.../dp/1567187951/It has been very useful and helpful for me. And it is after I read that and started implementing some of the methods there into my ritual I had my first physical manifestation of the arch angels which you can read about here:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...s+manifestationSo don't be surprised if you see the arch angels appear for you in the mirror. Make sure to ask if they really are the Angels of God himself, and that only the true angels of God are allowed to appear.
Don't worry if you hear a voice when you ask for the contact - after all you ARE asking them to contact you so that can happen in many ways, such as actually hearing them or even seeing them like in the example above. Just make sure to do the LBRP protection ritual first , write the letters I mentioned, ask God and the Arch Angels to protect you and guide you and help to make sure only your true and real spirit guides and guardian angels will be allowed, and you should be fine.
And in the end, know that no harm can be done to you, if you meet any spirits when projecting, all they can do at most is communicate.
Well don't worry, try out some of my suggestion and try learn that ritual I told you about and do that on a daily basis (both morning and night is optimal, and every time before trying any psychic/spiritual work) and you will cleanse the apartment as well as yourself for any other spirits or negative energies. In addition, at the point of evoking the archangels, ask them to guide the spirit(s) who are trapped and haunting the house to their right destination under the protection and love of God. You may also ask your spirit guides and guardian angels to help you with this task and include this as a message to them in the letter I mentioned you could write to them, one you burn as a ritual after all the other rituals (LBRP etc), and one you keep under your pillow at night and read out for yourself before going to bed every day.
In addition, you can do like I did, get a crystal, quartz is good, and one that is nice and fits easily into your pocket, and at the moment of manifestation of the arch angels, ask them to fill the crystal with their powers of protection, love, healing and guidance and all powers they possess to always be with you - and you may ask your spirit guides and guardian angels to help boost the power of the crystal by filling it with some of their energies as well. Do this every time you do the ritual, and keep the crystal with you in the pocket at daytime, and put it under your pillow at night when going to sleep.
This way you are creating ultimate protection for yourself as well as a method of getting in touch with your spirit helpers in an easier and quicker way.
Remember the "License to Depart" part of the rituals as I mentioned, on that link I gave you on how to perform the rituals. When doing the License to Depart, also make this include the spirits that are already there and that is haunting the place and tell them they are now free and can go in peace and love by the protection of God to where they belong and no longer need to be trapped here on earth.
The above will help you improve your astral projection skills, help you get in touch with your angels and guides, and also help you in the development of other spiritual abilities.
And as always, any questions, feel free to fire them at me.
Best of luck!
-Edward Alexander
Heartagram3200
Feb 12 2008, 12:54 AM
Oh, I just realised something...
I know you sya not to do AP at night, but I a teen, very busy, night the only time I have to try AP and other stuff like PSI...Anyways(oh I still have the cold, worse now, so I haven't tried it, I will once I get better), It gets really cold in my room, so I have A LOT of blankets on me, and they really heavy and weigh me down, but would that possible effect AP...By maybe making harder for me to lose awarness of my physical body because of all the weight...Just wondering...
Thanks!
darkbreed
Feb 13 2008, 12:27 AM
I normally never really had any problem with blankets and astral projection, but I prefer to use something thin and light just because its more comfortable and doesn't disturb the physical senses so much.
Regarding your time, you can do method 1:
QUOTE
1. -Wake up, Get up, and go back to bed:
This means, you should put your alarm clock to wake you a bit earlier than normal, lets say 6 hours of sleep and then make your alarm clock wake you up. Then, get up from bed, and do something for 30 min to 1 hour to get yourself awake - it is STRONGLY helpful if you spent this time with reading some books or other material about astral projection as this will affect your subcounscious mind to make it easier for you to astral project.
In any case, after 30min to 1 hour, go back to bed, and do any astral projection method and you may find that it is much easier to get into the state of mind needed and then project from there.
Of course, you can combine stuff from the other methods and blend it into this exercise - and remember your diaries.
Best of luck!
Heartagram3200
Feb 13 2008, 12:44 AM
Thanks
the only problem is I have school
So if I wake up and go back to bed I have nothing to wake me up again..
darkbreed
Feb 13 2008, 01:02 AM
All you need to do is to put the alarm clock back on normal time before going back to bed of course.. and you're set.
darkbreed
Feb 20 2008, 06:29 PM
Well as I see a lot of people asking astral projection related questions that has already been answered in this thread, as well as other questions related to the astral, I thought I could bump this thread back up a bit so people who have questions regarding the astral can read through this and perhaps get some of their questions answered through what is already written here, or ask new questions in this thread to anything related to the astral and how to improve astral projection skills, what to experience and expect, and so on, instead of having tons of threads basically asking the same questions over and over.
So anyone interested in the astral, and have any questions or experiences related to this, including sleep paralysis as this is related to the astral, feel feel to ask your questions and tell your experiences here, specially if you have tips and tricks and information that might be helpful to those others trying to experiment with these things.
Thanks all and best wishes of luck to everyone!
-Edward Alexander
AngelOfMusic
Feb 21 2008, 08:51 PM
Hi thanks for making this topic it looks really helpful and very logical (well, as logical as one would think astral projection can be!) Whenever i try and astral project, and i don't really use a method, i just lie there, and wait, doesn't get me very far though so i don't recommend it. Anyway, i think i'm doing it, and i can feel it and see things and i imagine things, but i can't hear it, and i know i'm still in my body as i have a very vivid imagination and always know when i'm imagining something, it's as if i can still feel myself in my own head...i suppose it's like dictation, i expect something that pops into my head to be astral projection, when i highly doubt it. Any tips to overcome that?
Best Wishes, AoM xx
P.S. For the magick ritual, does it matter if you are not a christian? Only i'd feel a bit of a two face if i was saying all this stuff about god and the power and the glory and not believe in it...
darkbreed
Feb 22 2008, 05:35 AM
First question first.
Actually, just lying there and waiting for it to happen is what is most useful for many, myself included in many cases at least. But, feel free to try out any other of my suggestions in the main thread, as they will all increase your astral abilities, practice regularly , and you WILL get there!!
For the last part about God. I'm not really a "christian" myself, I just believe in a higher force of creation simply because all I have experienced and seen seems to suggest this is the case. I do not like to call God for "him" but raher "it" as I see it as some force, of mental nature, but not as a being as ourselves, or some old man in the clouds with a beard. I'll not dive much into my personal beliefs and ideas about God here though, rather I suggest, if you do not believe in God, then you should ask yourself, why do you believe in a spirit, and out of body experiences, and astral projection, and thus a soul, which by its nature is religious and bonded to christianity and most other religions believing in a God?
In any case, regarding the rituals, if you really do NOT believ in even the possibiity of a God (something I find strange if you believe in astral projection, spirits, angels etc) then simply replace the godnames and etc with other words that feel more comfortable with you.
For example, when doing the ritual, instead of calling upon YHWH (YudHeVahHeh) you may call upon "Protection", and for the others "Guidance" , "Love", "Insights" and so on, so it realy got nothing to do with god's or spirituality per se, but rather with yourself and what you expect.
All is about you and what you believe and see as truth, so to be successful, follow your intuition, the gut feeling, what you feel is right.
Then, by times, revelations will come.
Good luck, and if any other questions feel free to ask!
Best wishes
-EA
QUOTE (AngelOfMusic @ Feb 21 2008, 09:51 PM)

Hi thanks for making this topic it looks really helpful and very logical (well, as logical as one would think astral projection can be!) Whenever i try and astral project, and i don't really use a method, i just lie there, and wait, doesn't get me very far though so i don't recommend it. Anyway, i think i'm doing it, and i can feel it and see things and i imagine things, but i can't hear it, and i know i'm still in my body as i have a very vivid imagination and always know when i'm imagining something, it's as if i can still feel myself in my own head...i suppose it's like dictation, i expect something that pops into my head to be astral projection, when i highly doubt it. Any tips to overcome that?
Best Wishes, AoM xx
P.S. For the magick ritual, does it matter if you are not a christian? Only i'd feel a bit of a two face if i was saying all this stuff about god and the power and the glory and not believe in it...
AngelOfMusic
Feb 22 2008, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 22 2008, 05:35 AM)

First question first.
Actually, just lying there and waiting for it to happen is what is most useful for many, myself included in many cases at least. But, feel free to try out any other of my suggestions in the main thread, as they will all increase your astral abilities, practice regularly , and you WILL get there!!
For the last part about God. I'm not really a "christian" myself, I just believe in a higher force of creation simply because all I have experienced and seen seems to suggest this is the case. I do not like to call God for "him" but raher "it" as I see it as some force, of mental nature, but not as a being as ourselves, or some old man in the clouds with a beard. I'll not dive much into my personal beliefs and ideas about God here though, rather I suggest, if you do not believe in God, then you should ask yourself, why do you believe in a spirit, and out of body experiences, and astral projection, and thus a soul, which by its nature is religious and bonded to christianity and most other religions believing in a God?
In any case, regarding the rituals, if you really do NOT believ in even the possibiity of a God (something I find strange if you believe in astral projection, spirits, angels etc) then simply replace the godnames and etc with other words that feel more comfortable with you.
For example, when doing the ritual, instead of calling upon YHWH (YudHeVahHeh) you may call upon "Protection", and for the others "Guidance" , "Love", "Insights" and so on, so it realy got nothing to do with god's or spirituality per se, but rather with yourself and what you expect.
All is about you and what you believe and see as truth, so to be successful, follow your intuition, the gut feeling, what you feel is right.
Then, by times, revelations will come.
Good luck, and if any other questions feel free to ask!
Best wishes
-EA
Ok thanks, its not that i don't belive in any God, i just don't like the christian religion in itself, i know there is something out there, the universe is too big and mysterious for there not to be.
And again thanks, you are a life saver!
Best Wishes, AoM xx
Nee_Nuh
Feb 28 2008, 02:45 AM
I'm curious........what actually happens when you astrally project? Do you go to some kind of spiritual world or are you just dreaming? Do you remember everything or just bits and pieces? Can you go anywhere or is it just limited to places you've seen, experienced, or been to before? Also, what kind of experiences have you had yourself(if you don't mind me asking)?
darkbreed
Feb 29 2008, 03:10 PM
In an astral projection, you go out of your body, and you are as aware and awake as you are when physically awake and up. The only main difference is that you are obviously separated from your physical body, and no longer bound by physical laws, for example you can pass through solid matter, fly , etc.
You can go anywhere in the world, the universe, other dimensions. But there are some restrictions though as some planes or places may be protected from outside visitors by some sort of energy shield that is hard to get through though not impossible.
I could write a whole book about what experiences I've had (actually I am writing a book about astral projection these days) but to tell a couple things I've visited other planets and seen aliens there, gone to other dimensions, met spirits and other astral beings, traveled around in this physical world while out of body, met my spirit guide, gone to really wonderful astral planes that is filled with beauty and friendly inhabitants and even visited another parallel version of our own world where I actually possessed some other persons body for a couple of days and spent my time in that world for those days in that other persons body.
I wrote about that visit to a parallel world and one of my visits to another planet at my blog
http://mindsvision.blogspot.net just scroll down there somewhere.
Peace.
QUOTE (Nee_Nuh @ Feb 28 2008, 02:45 AM)

I'm curious........what actually happens when you astrally project? Do you go to some kind of spiritual world or are you just dreaming? Do you remember everything or just bits and pieces? Can you go anywhere or is it just limited to places you've seen, experienced, or been to before? Also, what kind of experiences have you had yourself(if you don't mind me asking)?
Heartagram3200
Feb 29 2008, 09:26 PM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 29 2008, 10:10 AM)

In an astral projection, you go out of your body, and you are as aware and awake as you are when physically awake and up. The only main difference is that you are obviously separated from your physical body, and no longer bound by physical laws, for example you can pass through solid matter, fly , etc.
You can go anywhere in the world, the universe, other dimensions. But there are some restrictions though as some planes or places may be protected from outside visitors by some sort of energy shield that is hard to get through though not impossible.
I could write a whole book about what experiences I've had (actually I am writing a book about astral projection these days) but to tell a couple things I've visited other planets and seen aliens there, gone to other dimensions, met spirits and other astral beings, traveled around in this physical world while out of body, met my spirit guide, gone to really wonderful astral planes that is filled with beauty and friendly inhabitants and even visited another parallel version of our own world where I actually possessed some other persons body for a couple of days and spent my time in that world for those days in that other persons body.
I wrote about that visit to a parallel world and one of my visits to another planet at my blog
http://mindsvision.blogspot.net just scroll down there somewhere.
Peace.
See! It's experiences like that that drive me to continue trying to Project...Darkbreed, if you ever find time in an AP session, please try to pull me out or soemthing, cause I just want to astral project so bad! Oh, have you ever been to heavan?
Nee_Nuh
Mar 1 2008, 01:00 AM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 29 2008, 10:10 AM)

In an astral projection, you go out of your body, and you are as aware and awake as you are when physically awake and up. The only main difference is that you are obviously separated from your physical body, and no longer bound by physical laws, for example you can pass through solid matter, fly , etc.
You can go anywhere in the world, the universe, other dimensions. But there are some restrictions though as some planes or places may be protected from outside visitors by some sort of energy shield that is hard to get through though not impossible.
I could write a whole book about what experiences I've had (actually I am writing a book about astral projection these days) but to tell a couple things I've visited other planets and seen aliens there, gone to other dimensions, met spirits and other astral beings, traveled around in this physical world while out of body, met my spirit guide, gone to really wonderful astral planes that is filled with beauty and friendly inhabitants and even visited another parallel version of our own world where I actually possessed some other persons body for a couple of days and spent my time in that world for those days in that other persons body.
I wrote about that visit to a parallel world and one of my visits to another planet at my blog
http://mindsvision.blogspot.net just scroll down there somewhere.
Peace.
That's absolutely INCREDIBLE. Thanks for sharing(and for the link to your blog as well)!
darkbreed
Mar 1 2008, 01:05 AM
Have I been to heaven? Well that is a somewhat complex question, as to know the answer to that question I would have to know in some or other way that I was in heaven, if there even is such a thing as "one heaven". It's not like you travel around on earth, knowing your destination will be berlin, or rome, or whatever, so you know where you are. You may just end up somewhere, knowing nothing about where you really are, but just observing the place and perhaps communicate with any inhabitants you stumble over. With that said, I have been to many dimensions/worlds that I would call "heavenly" that is very beautiful, peaceful and harmonic filled with great spirits, and when I asked the spirits in one of these places where I was, I was told I was in the world of the spirits where dead people end up. And this was one of these "heavenly" and very beautiful worlds, I had the pleasure to fly around with a very nice woman there over hills and nature and it was quite an experience.
I dont really carry out requests of astral projecting to people to help them out, and that is for three simple reasons: 1, it's not few people asking me this, 2, I have more interesting things to do the times I project and I try spend my time as good I can on something insightful and 3, it is rather difficult to visit random people you don't know personally and know nothing about, would have to establish a better connection first, get to know you better, and so on.
However, I do help people astral project in other ways, by offering them methods and instructions that can be useful, as well as doing rituals for them to help them get in touch with their own spirit guides and guardian angels so they can help you get out. If you are interested in this PM me and I'll give you more information and add you in my list of people whom I perform these rituals for.
Best wishes for great success!
-Edward Alexander
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Feb 29 2008, 09:26 PM)

See! It's experiences like that that drive me to continue trying to Project...Darkbreed, if you ever find time in an AP session, please try to pull me out or soemthing, cause I just want to astral project so bad! Oh, have you ever been to heavan?
Heartagram3200
Mar 1 2008, 01:35 AM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 29 2008, 08:05 PM)

Have I been to heaven? Well that is a somewhat complex question, as to know the answer to that question I would have to know in some or other way that I was in heaven, if there even is such a thing as "one heaven". It's not like you travel around on earth, knowing your destination will be berlin, or rome, or whatever, so you know where you are. You may just end up somewhere, knowing nothing about where you really are, but just observing the place and perhaps communicate with any inhabitants you stumble over. With that said, I have been to many dimensions/worlds that I would call "heavenly" that is very beautiful, peaceful and harmonic filled with great spirits, and when I asked the spirits in one of these places where I was, I was told I was in the world of the spirits where dead people end up. And this was one of these "heavenly" and very beautiful worlds, I had the pleasure to fly around with a very nice woman there over hills and nature and it was quite an experience.
I dont really carry out requests of astral projecting to people to help them out, and that is for three simple reasons: 1, it's not few people asking me this, 2, I have more interesting things to do the times I project and I try spend my time as good I can on something insightful and 3, it is rather difficult to visit random people you don't know personally and know nothing about, would have to establish a better connection first, get to know you better, and so on.
However, I do help people astral project in other ways, by offering them methods and instructions that can be useful, as well as doing rituals for them to help them get in touch with their own spirit guides and guardian angels so they can help you get out. If you are interested in this PM me and I'll give you more information and add you in my list of people whom I perform these rituals for.
Best wishes for great success!
-Edward Alexander
Yea, I understand...Just wanted to try..Lol...
And I'm Christian, so rituals I wouldn't want to be added in rituals that may go against my religion...Sorry, just my personal preference...
darkbreed
Mar 1 2008, 02:28 AM
Don't worry, the rituals I do are christian in nature as they involve evocation of the arch angels, jesus and God, as well as your own spirit guides and guardian angel.
It's practical Christianity instead of just theoretical so it can't really get more Christian than that

Anyway as I said, PM me if you're interested in the details etc.
Cheers
Heartagram3200
Mar 1 2008, 02:33 AM
Ok, thanks
Mrdeano
Apr 26 2008, 02:14 PM
If I was in AP and I the rest of my family was downstairs.. would I be able to see them?
If so, would I be able to go nextdoor and look inside their house... and then describe it to them?
This could be a cool party trick =)
Heartagram3200
Apr 26 2008, 02:16 PM
Yah, you could...They would not be able to see you however...
Mrdeano
Apr 26 2008, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 26 2008, 02:16 PM)

Yah, you could...They would not be able to see you however...
Would I be able to hear them?
Sorry about all the questions
Strange and Beautiful.
Apr 26 2008, 09:00 PM
This is was allll very helpful. Thank you!
<3
nirvanic
Apr 26 2008, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (Mrdeano @ Apr 26 2008, 02:19 PM)

Would I be able to hear them?
Sorry about all the questions

yes, you would be able to hear them.
darkbreed
Apr 26 2008, 11:28 PM
As the others have stated, yes you would be able to both hear and see them and possibly even interact with them or make them feel your presence. This is also one of the easiest and best ways to verify that your experience is indeed real, as you can check with them later when you return to your body to see if what you observed were correct.
It was experiments similar to that I first started with myself when I got into astral projection, and thus got i verified to be a real experience out of body and not just some sort of imagination etc. Did many different tests to make sure, and got other people to do similar tests with success that further proved that it was real and something other people could learn to do as well and have them verify their own experiences completely independently of me and my own experiences.
So I do recommend you find yourself some time to experiment first, try see what happens outside in your neighbourhood, what your family is doing, have friends take part of the experiments and ask them to do things like putting a photo, poster or numbers on a big paper in their room and have you go check it when you are out of body and then see if you were right or not.
When you are out of body, the immediate surroundings can be somewhat fluid, meaning that they are not as solid as the physical realm, so results can have some variations, and observations can be somewhat different at times than what is happening in the physical realm. This is mostly due to either too low awareness and focus, so you are still somewhat in a semi-dream experience where things are effected by your mind, or that you are in fact not projecting into reality (physical world) at all but rather a personal duplicate version of reality created by yourself in an personal sort of dimension.
To help you overcome such problems, you can say out loudly things like "Clarity now!", "Awareness now!" etc, with a loud and determined voice expecting to get total awareness and clarity and see things the way they really are. If needed, repeat this over some times until it gets as clear and you feel as aware as possible. Try keep such affirmations short and precise as that makes them more effective it seems, you can do other variations too such as "Now I see the physical reality!" "Now my vision is clear!" etc. Always keep these affirmations in the present and with determination and expectations of success.
For interesting experiences, you may try things like "I experience my higher self now!", "My true being now!", "I see God now!" etc and you might find yourself propelled into a completely different reality, a dimension very unlike anything you've seen before and experiencing yourself in a way that is very different from the normal physical way of perception.
Other fun things to do is visiting other planets etc, like Mars, or the Moon, just focus on where you want to go, try make a mental clear image of the place, and just WANT to be there, you may say out loud at the same time "Mars NOW!" etc and find yourself there.
You can also ask your spirit guides and guardian angel to show you things of importance, or try communicate with them, just ask them to help you and guide you, and they're there to assist you. You may say out loud you want your spirit guide or guardian angel to take you to some great new place and just see where you end up.
In any case, best of luck with your astral voyages, hope you'll have some fun and great new insights!
Blessings and best wishes,
-EA
Mrdeano
Apr 26 2008, 11:46 PM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Apr 26 2008, 11:28 PM)

As the others have stated, yes you would be able to both hear and see them and possibly even interact with them or make them feel your presence. This is also one of the easiest and best ways to verify that your experience is indeed real, as you can check with them later when you return to your body to see if what you observed were correct.
It was experiments similar to that I first started with myself when I got into astral projection, and thus got i verified to be a real experience out of body and not just some sort of imagination etc. Did many different tests to make sure, and got other people to do similar tests with success that further proved that it was real and something other people could learn to do as well and have them verify their own experiences completely independently of me and my own experiences.
So I do recommend you find yourself some time to experiment first, try see what happens outside in your neighbourhood, what your family is doing, have friends take part of the experiments and ask them to do things like putting a photo, poster or numbers on a big paper in their room and have you go check it when you are out of body and then see if you were right or not.
When you are out of body, the immediate surroundings can be somewhat fluid, meaning that they are not as solid as the physical realm, so results can have some variations, and observations can be somewhat different at times than what is happening in the physical realm. This is mostly due to either too low awareness and focus, so you are still somewhat in a semi-dream experience where things are effected by your mind, or that you are in fact not projecting into reality (physical world) at all but rather a personal duplicate version of reality created by yourself in an personal sort of dimension.
To help you overcome such problems, you can say out loudly things like "Clarity now!", "Awareness now!" etc, with a loud and determined voice expecting to get total awareness and clarity and see things the way they really are. If needed, repeat this over some times until it gets as clear and you feel as aware as possible. Try keep such affirmations short and precise as that makes them more effective it seems, you can do other variations too such as "Now I see the physical reality!" "Now my vision is clear!" etc. Always keep these affirmations in the present and with determination and expectations of success.
For interesting experiences, you may try things like "I experience my higher self now!", "My true being now!", "I see God now!" etc and you might find yourself propelled into a completely different reality, a dimension very unlike anything you've seen before and experiencing yourself in a way that is very different from the normal physical way of perception.
Other fun things to do is visiting other planets etc, like Mars, or the Moon, just focus on where you want to go, try make a mental clear image of the place, and just WANT to be there, you may say out loud at the same time "Mars NOW!" etc and find yourself there.
You can also ask your spirit guides and guardian angel to show you things of importance, or try communicate with them, just ask them to help you and guide you, and they're there to assist you. You may say out loud you want your spirit guide or guardian angel to take you to some great new place and just see where you end up.
In any case, best of luck with your astral voyages, hope you'll have some fun and great new insights!
Blessings and best wishes,
-EA
Thanks for the adice =)
I know this sounds bizzare, but could you make a drawing of you in the Atral realm? It would helps loads =D
At the moment I am too scared to go through with it,
darkbreed
Apr 27 2008, 12:26 AM
A drawing of me in the astral realm? Now indeed, that is one of the strangest questions I've gotten so far on this topic heh. I don't quite see how that would be helpful for increasing your astral projection skills. Nor would it be an easy task to do, first of all my drawing skills sucks, and secondly the astral realm is not one thing, lets say like the Earth, that has a specific shape or form. Rather it is a term of the nonphysical world and all the realms and dimensions that exists beyond this one, and it comes in many different shapes and forms, worlds and places, so I'm not really sure what I should even draw to illustrate the astral world. Instead I recommend you watch the Robbie Williams movie called What dreams may come. It is an excellent portrait of how the astral worlds can be experienced, quite brilliant really.
Here is some info about this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/And here you can download it (high quality) - torrent client needed, like www.utorrent.com :
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3743559/What_D...%5D_-stckysweetOr watch it online in one of these places (lower quality):
http://alkaos.com/Watch-what-dreams-may-co...line-streaming/http://tvshack.net/movies/What_Dreams_May_Come__1998_/That movie portraits the astral realm much better than I could ever draw, enjoy =)
And with that said, there is nothing to be afraid of, astral projection is natural and you do it every night, the only thing is that you usually dont remember it and you're not aware of it. It's perfectly safe, just as safe as sleeping always is.
Best wishes and may you find some great adventures out there!
-EA
Sciencelover
Apr 27 2008, 11:52 AM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 5 2008, 01:01 AM)

6. Body awareness
In this methods, you try send your awareness out of your body and move it around in different ways etc.. For example, you lie in your bed, and imagine and feel yourself floating out to the right all the way to the wall, then bounce back into your body, through your body, and out on the left side and to the wall on left of you. Then send awareness back again through your body to the right wall etc, just continue doing this for a while, sending your awareness back and forth from right to left, trying to really feel yourself being at those places and feeling yourself floating through your body and out on the other side. After having done this for several minutes, move on to trying to imagine and feel yourself bouncing up and down instead, like sending your awareness up from your body and up to the ceiling, then back down through your body and down to the ground. Repeat this too for a while, and move on to another part: Back and Forth, this means try to feel yourself floating out of your feet and feel your awareness outside your body moving down to the wall by the end of your feet, then move back up through your body and out of your head to the wall at end of your head (if your head, or any other side of your body, is placed directly towards a wall, just imagine yoursel floating through that wall some meters)
Then try to imagine yourself on gentle ocean waves, floating up and down, rocking your body softly up and down, from side to side, back and forth etc. Try to really feel how it would be to lie floating on ocean waves being moved around. You should start feeling your body moving up and down etc just like you actually were on waves. At any point you feel like it you may try to project out of your body.
This method alone can be enough to get you out, but it is also a "loosening" method that makes you aware of your astral body, and makes it more loose and disconnected from your physical body, so actually this method can be something you start with to loosen yourself up from your physical, and then you can do any other astral projection method after it to increase the effects and be more sure to have an astral projection.
I felt the feeling once. Ill explain how, i wus playing a game where i wus driving a car, walking down the street, smashing someone. nvm. So i edited the water level and floated on water which filled the streets. Then, at night, i imagined water level increased in my school yard, and big waves there, so i jumped into the water and waves carried me all around, i wus as light as a feather, just floating on the waves.....until i fell on the ground so hard that i woke up. Also one of my childhood dreams, which i had too often. I was doing somth, then i see a deeeeeeeeeeep going stairway, and started falling down, while falling, i wus so afraid to die, but when i fall and "die" i just wake up with my body shaking of fear. Any comments on this?
darkbreed
Apr 27 2008, 10:31 PM
The floating on water part is great visualization for inducing out of body experiences, if you manage to do that and "feel" that you are moving and floating up and down on the waves, I use this method many times myself. Sometimes I imagine how it feels to be laying in a bathtub or swimmingpool floating almost weightless gently bumping up and down on the waves of the water and then I can feel this sensation in my body and try to increase it until I'm really floating and swinging up and down on waves with the intention in my mind of floating up and out of my body.
The stairway thing can be a visual interpretation of an out of body experience you had, either at the moment of separation or when returning, and since you were not aware or conscious you were left with a dream memory of the falling sensation that turned into an image of the stairways etc. Try focus on this falling feeling and try imagine it in your whole body when you are in bed or a sofa or anywhere else relaxing, and if you manage to imagine it, make it grow stronger and spread this falling sensation through your body and imagine yourself falling through the sofa or bed or whatever you are in, and you may find yourself having an out of body experience.
Good luck!
QUOTE (Sciencelover @ Apr 27 2008, 12:52 PM)

I felt the feeling once. Ill explain how, i wus playing a game where i wus driving a car, walking down the street, smashing someone. nvm. So i edited the water level and floated on water which filled the streets. Then, at night, i imagined water level increased in my school yard, and big waves there, so i jumped into the water and waves carried me all around, i wus as light as a feather, just floating on the waves.....until i fell on the ground so hard that i woke up. Also one of my childhood dreams, which i had too often. I was doing somth, then i see a deeeeeeeeeeep going stairway, and started falling down, while falling, i wus so afraid to die, but when i fall and "die" i just wake up with my body shaking of fear. Any comments on this?
marinejohn
Apr 28 2008, 08:54 AM
I am new to this subject and have a question. Due to an accident that I had, I have to use several medications; will this impede my ability to astral project? I thank you in advance for your answer.
Razer
Apr 28 2008, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (marinejohn @ Apr 28 2008, 09:54 AM)

I am new to this subject and have a question. Due to an accident that I had, I have to use several medications; will this impede my ability to astral project? I thank you in advance for your answer.
There are no studies on this sort of thing as I am aware of. Even if there were, without knowing what medications you are on, it would be impossible to say.
KissMyTwinkies
Apr 28 2008, 09:52 AM
The mind is a strange thing.
darkbreed
Apr 28 2008, 11:27 PM
Marinejohn:
May I ask what medications? I know some are not good for astral projection and spiritual development, this includes several SSRI's (antidepressants) , antipsychotics, antischizophrenia etc as these tend to block the part of our mind that allows these experiences to occur, although not in every case, but from my research they significally decreases these abilities. Medications such as benzodiazepines (valium, xanax, klonopin etc) do not seem to have any negative effect on this, sometimes it may actually be beneficiary as it can make a person more relaxed specially if physical problems hinders these type of exeperiences, as one need to be properly relaxed. Same for most pain medications such as opiates and opioids etc.
That's at least what Ive gathered from the little research I've done on this topic through interviewing people whom have been astral projecting both before and after taking such medications, and how medications have affected their experiences.
Personally I also take some medications due to some car accidents that buggered me up back in the days, but it doesn't seem to be any problem for my astral projections.
Best wishes!
Blueguardian
Apr 29 2008, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (HolyRocketPropelledGrenade @ Feb 7 2008, 06:05 PM)

I have tried both of these methods too, but I dont usually leave the room I have gone right up to the door and I get stuck and cant picture the door opening for me or me going through it. Concentrating and focusing on something in the room has also helped me, but I usually get stuck doing that.
Rapidly waking up and going back to sleep also has helped me as well as a night of FPS zombie/alien killing or a really good scary movie. I usually will myself out by reminding myself that its just a dream, and proof I enter that transition. Sometimes I have to die/get eaten in my dreams before I can will myself out. I can also do it when I start the dream knowing im dreaming, then its a lot easier to get the process going.
Im gonna try some of the other methods too! Thanks for posting this info! I thought I was the only crazy one flying around in my sleep

I havnt even got that far yet, i havn't got anywhere yet, but the reason you can't go through the door is because you doubt that you can, maybe don't visualise the door opening, just see the door there and go through it, you have to believe that you can pass through it otherwise it will keep you in your room, remember physics have no meainging in the astral. You probably already know all that though. Somebody corret me if i have made any mistakes in my above statment. Cheers
darkbreed
Apr 29 2008, 07:10 PM
Regarding the door issue, what I usually do is either one of two:
1: I start pressing my hands hard against the door until they start going through the door like the door becomes soft and they get out on the other side, then I just step through it the same way with my entire body feeling myself passing through (interesting and strange sensation btw)
2: I visualize and try imagine how it must be to stand just on the other side of the door in front of me, with my back against the door I'm now facing. I think of the feeling of being there some inches in front of me on the other side of the door, and try picture in my mind standing there on the other side, and then usually I am there in the blink of an eye without even having to go through the door, its like instant teleportation. You can do this same method to get to anywhere you desire as well.
sufist
May 28 2008, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Feb 5 2008, 03:31 AM)

Originally some tips I wrote to a guy who pm'ed me, but I think it may come in handy for other people as well so I'm posting what I told him here:
To get to the basics first: Don't try to astral project at night or when you are very tired, as this most certainly will lead you to black out / fall asleep instead of having a successful projection. Are you doing it in the night? If so this is probably the reason. The best time of day to astral project is in the morning just when you've waked up, or in the middle of day or afternoon / evening. The night is usually the worst time to try as your body and mind is too tired then. Morning is usually the best of them all, as your mind and body is rested, and already in a close state to astral projection from just having slept, so if you just lay still and try to project then this can be successful.
Here is a couple methods you may want to try out:
1. -Wake up, Get up, and go back to bed:
...................
With all my best wishes for success, and hope you'll have some new interesting astral adventures this night too! (Or try do it in the morning or day as I suggested as its easier then than in the night)
Regards,
Edward Alexander
Dear Friend
Thanks for the useful information
but I have a question :
I red on a book that muslims prophet "Muhammed" during special days of islamic calendar wen to
sleep each 2 hour during night and wake up brush teeth and pray for GOD (maybe meditation) and get to bed again and repeat this until morning.
and he also offered to people to sleep some hours before noon and some hours afternoon and after praying ,
also I red that he went finally to 7th level of being or dimension
now my question is that is his offer about praying(meditation) and sleeping with that method of sleeping relates to help astral projection ?
or I must sleep minimum of 6 hours and wake up to achieve astral projection ?
I mean that which method is better :
1- sleep 6 hours and wake up read some texts about astral projection or do meditation and go to bed again
2- sleep 2 hour wake up read something about astral projection or do meditation and go to bed again and repeat this untill morning and also do that 4 hours before noon and 4 hours afternoon.
which method is better to achieve astral projection.
thanks in advance
darkbreed
Jul 4 2008, 11:38 PM
Sufist: I'm familiar with Muhammad's journey through the seven planes, pretty interesting.
Over to your questions:
I think this is an individual thing, so either one of your 2 examples may be useful. Though, one of the problems with nightly astral projection is that it is easy to fall asleep and go into a dream state instead of projecting because the body and mind is tired. Therefore, it is usually easier for most people to do it in the morning, for example after 6 hours of sleep where you should have gotten enough rest to be able to stay awake instead of falling asleep again, or rather be able to keep your mind awake and let your body fall asleep again while you retain awareness and then project into your astral double (astral body).
Personally I've had more success doing it in the morning when I wake up after a good night sleep, but then again I have not tried the 2 hour thing much but it sounds like this could get you pretty tired the day after and not very beneficial if you have to go to work or school.
When it comes to resting at noon that is a good time for astral projection too, so is the evening in my experience. The key seems to be to be able to be deeply relaxed but not overly tired, so that you can get into the proper state of mind without falling to deep asleep.
Bottom line: Try experiment with both and see what works best for you. When it comes to astral projection I generally recommend trying a method daily (or several times a day) for one month before giving up and moving over to another method. If you have had some sort of unusual experiences during that month, such as sleep paralysis, vibrations, floating sensations or anything else that you normally don't experience when resting then try continue with the same method for a while more and see if you get any further. If not, try a new method.
I do encourage you to keep a dream diary and astral projection diary at hand and write down all dreams and astral experiences there. Dreams on a daily basis every morning, and astral projections whenenver you have them. Think I've written some about this in one of my previous posts in this thread.
Good luck!
-EA