Just hours before Hillary Clinton will be "elected", a reminder: script and goal were explained worldwide only by End Times Prophet and echoed by few, very very few.
The Script
The script for the "election" of Hillary Clinton, supported by less than 5 pct of the population, as the last president of the US (unless the illuminati will have to terminate the script before), was explained worldwide only by End Times Prophet. (1)
Electing a candidate who did not manage to gather a crowd larger than 4,000 (including the hundreds of paid campaign personnel).
This despite the script for the role of the candidate supposed to lose (2), the "black" candidate by the name of Obama (as close as it can get to the CIA creation Osama).
Obama, the candidate with a 80+ muslim grandmother who has to pump her daily supply of fresh water from a hole in the ground somewehere in Africa.
Obama, the candidate with two main roles: to convince people that computers do not multiply the Clinton votes and to ask his crowds for a big cheer for Clinton, each time the "results" are announced.(3)
The main goal of the script
The goal of the script for the "election" of Hillary Clinton, was explained again worldwide only by End Times Prophet. It is as simple as this:
1. The masses in Illuminatiland have formally accepted to carry the mark of the beast in 2004. On their forehead and on their right hand, i.e. in thoughts and deeds. Only a few, VERY FEW, refused it. (4)
2. Once that happened, for the illuminati the only "new developments" in Illuminatiland until the final slaughter can be nothing but proving the Illuminati B-Plan, total deception (5), i.e. how completely they can fool and control the sheep. Ulltimately this resumes to seeking to reach as close as possible to the ultimate border, which is defined by explaining openly to the sheep how they were fooled.
In other words, the ultimate border is defined by the illuminati telling the sheep exactly what Matt Marriott told them during the ten years (6) that the battle of Armageddon lasted so far. (7)
Notes
(1) http://last-antichrist.blogspot.com/2007/0...ummies-two.html
(2) Currently only one result, and it's the right one
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%...osed+to+lose%22
(3) http://voting-machines.blogspot.com/2008/0...d-2004-for.html
(4) Halloween 2004 - last hours before almost all Americans formally accept to carry the mark of the beast
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/301542.shtml
(5) more about the Illuminati B-plan here: http://illuminati-religion.blogspot.com/
(6) A starting point here: http://best-seller-hoaxes.blogspot.com/
(7) http://armageddon-now.blogspot.com/
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Only an End Times Prophet could forsee the election of Hillary Clinton.
That I'll agree with. It's a frightening thought, certainly.
But the rest of this?
Jeez...
That I'll agree with. It's a frightening thought, certainly.
But the rest of this?
Jeez...
QUOTE (MID @ Feb 6 2008, 12:41 AM) 
Only an End Times Prophet could forsee the election of Hillary Clinton.
That I'll agree with. It's a frightening thought, certainly.
That I'll agree with. It's a frightening thought, certainly.
Im not that into politics, and sertainly not US politics. Please explain MID, whats wrong with Hillary as the next president and who would you preffer instead?
QUOTE (hazzard @ Feb 6 2008, 01:24 PM)
Im not that into politics, and sertainly not US politics. Please explain MID, whats wrong with Hillary as the next president and who would you preffer instead?
Haz:
I hear you, I appreciate your question, and I've got to say that it's a good thing you you're not that into politics...ESPECIALLY American politics.
The system of electing a President in this country is convoluted, non-representative in many ways (which is absolutely evident by recent election results), and is antiquated and should be modified forthwith.
You're asking about my objections to Hillary Clinton, and that's a valid question, indeed!
I intend to answer you. I'll put my position on the table for you.
As a preface, I will also say that I object to Barrack Obama, and John McCain as well...who are the other candidates who have a shot at being nominated as their respective party's candidates at the moment. I object to all of them for the same reasons, essentially.
My answer will be inclusive, and complex.
I'll tell you what, give me a day or two to try and distill the whole thing into the simplest terms I can muster. Right now I have some important matters to attend to, and cannot do justice to this issue in the time I have at the moment.
For you, I shall reply fully, OK?
M~
My own take on this is that Bill Clinton believes that he's discovered an end-run around the Twenty-Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
Southern U. S. governors long ago made a cottage industry out of this particular game - when your own term limits expire you just ask your wife to run and, later, your kids.
And Bill Clinton was a Southern governor.
Southern U. S. governors long ago made a cottage industry out of this particular game - when your own term limits expire you just ask your wife to run and, later, your kids.
And Bill Clinton was a Southern governor.
I dont think hillarys gonna win..noone wants an aristocracy...mccain will win big..
OK Haz...
In thinking about this question of yours, I think I was planning on getting into too much involving American politics. In re-thinking the situation, I think maybe I ought to can some of that discussion.
In the United States, we have Democrats, and Republicans, and of course some folks who are associated with 3rd parties that have no real bearing on Presidential politics (which is very likely a shame, but is a pragmatic fact). We also have people who are termed "liberal" and people who are termed "conservative, and people who are termed "moderate".
The conservative and liberal labels are not necessarily associated with a party, although in the majority they are (Democrats=liberal; Republicans = conservative). President Bush is not considered a conservative in several respects, for instance. Moderates are people who generally attempt to take the best points of poth philosophical view points, although the majority of the good points today are decidedly on the conservative side of the fence.
The funny thing about these distinctions are that they have, especially as pertains to "liberal", changed over the years. Liberalism, as it used to be defined, was one of the founding philosophical positions that the United States was based upon. However, today, it has morphed into a position that is very close to being socialism in several salient aspects, which was never a part of the American way of life.
Today, liberal speaks to larger government, more entitlement programs, higher taxation rates, and lesser freedoms.
Conservatism is the opposite, dealing with smaller government, lower taxes, freedom, and a relaiance on the free-enterprise system to solve economic problems.
We have, frankly, seen a rather wild transmutation of liberalism over the years. The conversion has been subtle but observable since the years of say, Apollo. Democrats have this propensity to vehemently identify themselves as the party of Kennedy (John F....). The oddity here, despite the continued and often unbelievable presence of President Kennedy's brother Ted as an omnipresent Senator from Massachussets (and a damned shame when observed in light of his his Brother), is that very little of what Democrats profess to, and have done in the decades since John F. Kennedy have anything to do with what he did.
John F. Kennedy was not a "liberal" whatsoever, based on today's definition of the term. And frankly, John Kennedy wouldn't be associated with today's Democrats. Much of what he did corresponded to things that Ronald Reagan and our current President George Bush has done!
At any rate, enough ot that background.
As to Hillary...
She is, despite her wishy-washy position changes, a full blown modern day liberal who poses a danger to the country's future success.
If nominated (which is in some doubt right about now), and elected as President, we will most asuredly see the following things happen:
1. We will find ourselves without hope of attaining energy independence, and out energy costs will climb.
2. Our tax rates will soar, because her position (and that of all liberals) is geared toward adhereing to silly unsubstantiated ideas about the environment, which means we will increase taxes to fund programs designed to inhibit the rights of Americans in their daily lives, we will not drill for the vast reserves we have, we will not build the refineries we need, and we will therefore not stimulate economic growth, and will remain ever dependednt on foreign markets. Additionally, we will not generate the revenue necessary to fund research on alternative future energy sources.
3. We will not continue wholeheartedly the battle against global terrorism (in fact, we're not doing enough now in that regard). We will leave Iraq prematurely and likely promote serious humanitarian difficulties in that region, and we will attempt to engage in diplomatic discussions with people who want us dead at all costs. We have already, or so it should be hoped, seen the results of diplomatic appeasement with the Carter adminsitration.
...perhaps you recall the Iran hostage crisis back in the later 1970s? For a long time, Carter appeased terrorists and allowed our people to be held by these wackos while he kept caving to their demands rather than go in and kick their asses (That, plus double digit inflation due to nutty policies and energy costs going through the roof and all of that). It is not at all a strange or unexplainable thing to see that those hostages were released shortly after the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 (Reagan essentially said we'll kick your ass if you don't let these people go...and they knew he was just nutty enough to do what he said...and they let them go immediately).
That's just a few things that will result from an uninhibited Hillary Clinton in the White House.
There's alot more.
Now you asked who I would prefer.
Frankly, Haz, the people I prefer are no longer in the race,
Mitt Romney had my support intitially. Then, Fred Thompson entered the fray and I favored him. Mr. Thompson exited the race for reasonable personal causes a little while ago, and about 8 hours prior to this message, Governor Romney exited the race for completely logical reasons which were based upon his financial and rational acumen (he, among all of the candidates remaining, actually has the qualifications for the position).
Collusion (a typical practice in such events as Presidential elections) between John McCain and Mike Huckabee resulted in votes being siphoned by McCain in this past Tuesday's primary elections ( a misguided vote for Huckabee (misguided based upon an understanding of the Republican winner-takes-all system), who has no chance whatsoever, was a vote for McCain).
Huckabee is hoping for consideration as a VP candidate with McCain, or some position of prominence in the McCain administration...which is laughable.
Combine that with the completely untenable Republican primary system, which affords all of the delegates to the party convention to the winner of the state's election, rather than apportioning delegates based on the actual popular vote (as the Democrats have), and you have the best candidate for Republican conservatism being methodically wiped out of the race.
Consider that with a long way to go in the primary race, we have the following statistics:
Popular votes to date:
McCain: 4,700,000 54%
Romney: 4,000,000 46%
States won to date:
McCain: 13 (52%)
Romney: 11 (48%)
Pretty close, with alot of states left, eh?
Well, not really....
Delegates won:
McCain: 707 (71%)
Romney: 294 (29%)
That's the major problem here....
It shouldn't be over by any stretch of the imagination. Yet, it is.
As to qualifications...we probably now have the least qualified field of candidates in Amrican history to select from.
Who is qualified?
Well, I'm almost certain that no former President will tell you there is anything to prepare them for the office of the Presidency. Nonetheless, the best Presidents have almost exclusively NOT been Senators. In fact, no Senator has been elected President for the past 48 years! There's a reason for that.
People with large scale management experience generally have the best qualifications. People who have governed states and are experienced in managing large organizations...Generals, Governors, Major city Mayors, Corporate CEOs, things like that...those people qualify.
The only candidate with vast experience in large scale business and beurocratic management has just been forced to leave the race. We're left with a career politician (McCain), and two democratic Senators with no experience whatsoever in management, and some rather dangerous social positions.
Clinton does have a little experience in matters, however. Her health care initiative while her Hubby was President was an abject failure...and she wants to do it again, which is also hugely problematic...
The only thing left to concentrate on, since McCain is in fact a liberal in important areas, and as of today has the nomination locked, are the Congressional elections that are up-coming in 2008. A Conservative majority in the Congress is the only hope of this country to actually progress and get things done in the next 4 years, or at least to stifle damaging liberal agendae that will, if implemented, threaten this country's security in many ways.
It's actually a lot more complicated than what I put forth here, but those are essentially points.
There's another really important thing that isn't mentioned.
The President's Space Exploration Initiative is dependent upon several successive administration's support and several Congress's funding.
I don't know about McCain, but you can put pretty good odds on the fact that under Hillary Clinton, we'll see the death of Constellation before the boilerplates are tested...
In thinking about this question of yours, I think I was planning on getting into too much involving American politics. In re-thinking the situation, I think maybe I ought to can some of that discussion.
In the United States, we have Democrats, and Republicans, and of course some folks who are associated with 3rd parties that have no real bearing on Presidential politics (which is very likely a shame, but is a pragmatic fact). We also have people who are termed "liberal" and people who are termed "conservative, and people who are termed "moderate".
The conservative and liberal labels are not necessarily associated with a party, although in the majority they are (Democrats=liberal; Republicans = conservative). President Bush is not considered a conservative in several respects, for instance. Moderates are people who generally attempt to take the best points of poth philosophical view points, although the majority of the good points today are decidedly on the conservative side of the fence.
The funny thing about these distinctions are that they have, especially as pertains to "liberal", changed over the years. Liberalism, as it used to be defined, was one of the founding philosophical positions that the United States was based upon. However, today, it has morphed into a position that is very close to being socialism in several salient aspects, which was never a part of the American way of life.
Today, liberal speaks to larger government, more entitlement programs, higher taxation rates, and lesser freedoms.
Conservatism is the opposite, dealing with smaller government, lower taxes, freedom, and a relaiance on the free-enterprise system to solve economic problems.
We have, frankly, seen a rather wild transmutation of liberalism over the years. The conversion has been subtle but observable since the years of say, Apollo. Democrats have this propensity to vehemently identify themselves as the party of Kennedy (John F....). The oddity here, despite the continued and often unbelievable presence of President Kennedy's brother Ted as an omnipresent Senator from Massachussets (and a damned shame when observed in light of his his Brother), is that very little of what Democrats profess to, and have done in the decades since John F. Kennedy have anything to do with what he did.
John F. Kennedy was not a "liberal" whatsoever, based on today's definition of the term. And frankly, John Kennedy wouldn't be associated with today's Democrats. Much of what he did corresponded to things that Ronald Reagan and our current President George Bush has done!
At any rate, enough ot that background.
As to Hillary...
She is, despite her wishy-washy position changes, a full blown modern day liberal who poses a danger to the country's future success.
If nominated (which is in some doubt right about now), and elected as President, we will most asuredly see the following things happen:
1. We will find ourselves without hope of attaining energy independence, and out energy costs will climb.
2. Our tax rates will soar, because her position (and that of all liberals) is geared toward adhereing to silly unsubstantiated ideas about the environment, which means we will increase taxes to fund programs designed to inhibit the rights of Americans in their daily lives, we will not drill for the vast reserves we have, we will not build the refineries we need, and we will therefore not stimulate economic growth, and will remain ever dependednt on foreign markets. Additionally, we will not generate the revenue necessary to fund research on alternative future energy sources.
3. We will not continue wholeheartedly the battle against global terrorism (in fact, we're not doing enough now in that regard). We will leave Iraq prematurely and likely promote serious humanitarian difficulties in that region, and we will attempt to engage in diplomatic discussions with people who want us dead at all costs. We have already, or so it should be hoped, seen the results of diplomatic appeasement with the Carter adminsitration.
...perhaps you recall the Iran hostage crisis back in the later 1970s? For a long time, Carter appeased terrorists and allowed our people to be held by these wackos while he kept caving to their demands rather than go in and kick their asses (That, plus double digit inflation due to nutty policies and energy costs going through the roof and all of that). It is not at all a strange or unexplainable thing to see that those hostages were released shortly after the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 (Reagan essentially said we'll kick your ass if you don't let these people go...and they knew he was just nutty enough to do what he said...and they let them go immediately).
That's just a few things that will result from an uninhibited Hillary Clinton in the White House.
There's alot more.
Now you asked who I would prefer.
Frankly, Haz, the people I prefer are no longer in the race,
Mitt Romney had my support intitially. Then, Fred Thompson entered the fray and I favored him. Mr. Thompson exited the race for reasonable personal causes a little while ago, and about 8 hours prior to this message, Governor Romney exited the race for completely logical reasons which were based upon his financial and rational acumen (he, among all of the candidates remaining, actually has the qualifications for the position).
Collusion (a typical practice in such events as Presidential elections) between John McCain and Mike Huckabee resulted in votes being siphoned by McCain in this past Tuesday's primary elections ( a misguided vote for Huckabee (misguided based upon an understanding of the Republican winner-takes-all system), who has no chance whatsoever, was a vote for McCain).
Huckabee is hoping for consideration as a VP candidate with McCain, or some position of prominence in the McCain administration...which is laughable.
Combine that with the completely untenable Republican primary system, which affords all of the delegates to the party convention to the winner of the state's election, rather than apportioning delegates based on the actual popular vote (as the Democrats have), and you have the best candidate for Republican conservatism being methodically wiped out of the race.
Consider that with a long way to go in the primary race, we have the following statistics:
Popular votes to date:
McCain: 4,700,000 54%
Romney: 4,000,000 46%
States won to date:
McCain: 13 (52%)
Romney: 11 (48%)
Pretty close, with alot of states left, eh?
Well, not really....
Delegates won:
McCain: 707 (71%)
Romney: 294 (29%)
That's the major problem here....
It shouldn't be over by any stretch of the imagination. Yet, it is.
As to qualifications...we probably now have the least qualified field of candidates in Amrican history to select from.
Who is qualified?
Well, I'm almost certain that no former President will tell you there is anything to prepare them for the office of the Presidency. Nonetheless, the best Presidents have almost exclusively NOT been Senators. In fact, no Senator has been elected President for the past 48 years! There's a reason for that.
People with large scale management experience generally have the best qualifications. People who have governed states and are experienced in managing large organizations...Generals, Governors, Major city Mayors, Corporate CEOs, things like that...those people qualify.
The only candidate with vast experience in large scale business and beurocratic management has just been forced to leave the race. We're left with a career politician (McCain), and two democratic Senators with no experience whatsoever in management, and some rather dangerous social positions.
Clinton does have a little experience in matters, however. Her health care initiative while her Hubby was President was an abject failure...and she wants to do it again, which is also hugely problematic...
The only thing left to concentrate on, since McCain is in fact a liberal in important areas, and as of today has the nomination locked, are the Congressional elections that are up-coming in 2008. A Conservative majority in the Congress is the only hope of this country to actually progress and get things done in the next 4 years, or at least to stifle damaging liberal agendae that will, if implemented, threaten this country's security in many ways.
It's actually a lot more complicated than what I put forth here, but those are essentially points.
There's another really important thing that isn't mentioned.
The President's Space Exploration Initiative is dependent upon several successive administration's support and several Congress's funding.
I don't know about McCain, but you can put pretty good odds on the fact that under Hillary Clinton, we'll see the death of Constellation before the boilerplates are tested...
QUOTE (MID)
As to qualifications...we probably now have the least qualified field of candidates in Amrican history to select from.
Who is qualified?
Well, I'm almost certain that no former President will tell you there is anything to prepare them for the office of the Presidency. Nonetheless, the best Presidents have almost exclusively NOT been Senators. In fact, no Senator has been elected President for the past 48 years! There's a reason for that.
People with large scale management experience generally have the best qualifications. People who have governed states and are experienced in managing large organizations...Generals, Governors, Major city Mayors, Corporate CEOs, things like that...those people qualify.
The only candidate with vast experience in large scale business and beurocratic management has just been forced to leave the race. We're left with a career politician (McCain), and two democratic Senators with no experience whatsoever in management
Who is qualified?
Well, I'm almost certain that no former President will tell you there is anything to prepare them for the office of the Presidency. Nonetheless, the best Presidents have almost exclusively NOT been Senators. In fact, no Senator has been elected President for the past 48 years! There's a reason for that.
People with large scale management experience generally have the best qualifications. People who have governed states and are experienced in managing large organizations...Generals, Governors, Major city Mayors, Corporate CEOs, things like that...those people qualify.
The only candidate with vast experience in large scale business and beurocratic management has just been forced to leave the race. We're left with a career politician (McCain), and two democratic Senators with no experience whatsoever in management
That's the trouble with career politicians... all they know about is, well, politics. And politics often have very little to do with the real world, do they?
(though to be fair, McCain does have military experience, unlike his two predecessors.)
QUOTE (747400 @ Feb 9 2008, 04:40 AM)
That's the trouble with career politicians... all they know about is, well, politics. And politics often have very little to do with the real world, do they?
(though to be fair, McCain does have military experience, unlike his two predecessors.)
(though to be fair, McCain does have military experience, unlike his two predecessors.)
Well, politics often doesn't have anything to do with managing anything...that's for sure!
Military experience as well, isn't a qualification...although large scale military management experience is.
McCain has the military experience, and of course, we're going to hear an awful lot about that, as pertains to his POW status and all that, which although honorable and exceeding admirable, is irrelevant to the realities of the situation. His Senatorial record is actually much more releveant, and that's not necessarily a good thing at all.
(Kerry had military experience as well, but that really wasn't qualifying material either!)
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ Feb 7 2008, 12:14 PM)
My own take on this is that Bill Clinton believes that he's discovered an end-run around the Twenty-Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
Southern U. S. governors long ago made a cottage industry out of this particular game - when your own term limits expire you just ask your wife to run and, later, your kids.
And Bill Clinton was a Southern governor.
Southern U. S. governors long ago made a cottage industry out of this particular game - when your own term limits expire you just ask your wife to run and, later, your kids.
And Bill Clinton was a Southern governor.
There's a school of though that Hillary has already been in charge for 4 years and is after a second term.
QUOTE (flyingswan @ Feb 10 2008, 11:48 AM)
There's a school of though that Hillary has already been in charge for 4 years and is after a second term.
The clintons are finished...bills gonna return to his role, of leader of the knights of templar. and play anti-christ....
I'd heard that he was going to set up a new Knights of the Round Table, with Hillary, GW, GHWB, McCain, Obama, et al, and were going to go in quest of the Holy Grail, or something.
QUOTE (747400 @ Feb 10 2008, 04:25 PM)
I'd heard that he was going to set up a new Knights of the Round Table, with Hillary, GW, GHWB, McCain, Obama, et al, and were going to go in quest of the Holy Grail, or something.
lol....do your research on clintons masonic endevours, and his affiliation with the knights of templar..he's a full blown satan worshipper...
Did you know that the late Jack Parsons, founder of Jet Propulsion Laboratory and member of the satanic cult OTO, prophecied that the Antichrist and the Whore of Babylon would soon appear on Earth and would be known as Belarion and Hilarion? Sound like anyone we know? Did you know that no one knows for sure who Bill Clinton's natural father is, and that it is a secret never even mentioned by the controlled media? And who paid for Bill's four years at the University of Arkansas, three years at the very expensive Yale Law School (Skull and Bones is based at Yale), and one year at Georgetown? He never worked a day in his life until he clerked briefly for William Fullbright (another leftist Rhodes Scholar) while in law school. His mother and stepfather were dirt poor trailer trash, and the only scholarship he ever had was the Rhodes thing for Oxford. Yet no one ever asks who paid for eight years of school and living expenses. Like the identity of his father, it is never discussed.
I think you are correct; it is scripted that Hillary (Hilarion?) will be made President, or queen of the new Atlantis. And if Bill (Belarion?) is made Secretary General of the UN, we will need a miracle to save us. William B Stoecker
I think you are correct; it is scripted that Hillary (Hilarion?) will be made President, or queen of the new Atlantis. And if Bill (Belarion?) is made Secretary General of the UN, we will need a miracle to save us. William B Stoecker
QUOTE (William B Stoecker @ Feb 10 2008, 12:38 PM)
I think you are correct; it is scripted that Hillary (Hilarion?) will be made President, or queen of the new Atlantis. And if Bill (Belarion?) is made Secretary General of the UN, we will need a miracle to save us. William B Stoecker
Well, I'm not sure that Parsons, or who paid for Bill Clinton's education is relevant to anything.
However, I think I can fundamentally agree that if Hillary is elected President, we will, as a people, get what we deserve for doing something so stupid...at least for 4 years.
As to Bill; becoming Secretary General of the U.N. won't be a possibility until 2012, and he certainly doesn't fit the profile for the position. If Hillary gets elected in 2008, I don't think her Husband will have a prayer of being considered for a post as Secretary General in 2012, after the nonsense that will have occurred in the White House for the prior 4 years. He'll probably be working his butt off to get her re-elected after a failed first term.
QUOTE (MID @ Feb 7 2008, 11:51 PM)
OK Haz...
In thinking about this question of yours, I think I was planning on getting into too much involving American politics. In re-thinking the situation, I think maybe I ought to can some of that discussion.
In the United States, we have Democrats, and Republicans, and of course some folks who are associated with 3rd parties that have no real bearing on Presidential politics (which is very likely a shame, but is a pragmatic fact). ................
There's another really important thing that isn't mentioned.
The President's Space Exploration Initiative is dependent upon several successive administration's support and several Congress's funding.
I don't know about McCain, but you can put pretty good odds on the fact that under Hillary Clinton, we'll see the death of Constellation before the boilerplates are tested...
In thinking about this question of yours, I think I was planning on getting into too much involving American politics. In re-thinking the situation, I think maybe I ought to can some of that discussion.
In the United States, we have Democrats, and Republicans, and of course some folks who are associated with 3rd parties that have no real bearing on Presidential politics (which is very likely a shame, but is a pragmatic fact). ................
There's another really important thing that isn't mentioned.
The President's Space Exploration Initiative is dependent upon several successive administration's support and several Congress's funding.
I don't know about McCain, but you can put pretty good odds on the fact that under Hillary Clinton, we'll see the death of Constellation before the boilerplates are tested...
WOW! You just reminded me why I hate politics. But thanks for that dive into american politics MID. The one I care about is the space program. Going back to the moon, and then Mars.
But then again, if the US wont, bet your butt someother spaceagency will.
QUOTE (hazzard @ Feb 10 2008, 03:03 PM)
WOW! You just reminded me why I hate politics. But thanks for that dive into american politics MID.
Yea, kinda remined me why I hate it too!
QUOTE
The one I care about is the space program. Going back to the moon, and then Mars.
But then again, if the US wont, bet your butt someother spaceagency will.
But then again, if the US wont, bet your butt someother spaceagency will.
Me too, and I wouldn't bet against another organization getting into it if we don't!
Its a sad state our country is in. I watched a late night show where people are shown pictures of Hillary, bush ex.. and asked if they new who they were,very sad.
I don't like politics either.
I am one of the millions of self employed who now have been forced out of my small business to go to work as a drone in a factory doing what I hate just to make ends meat.
Talking with one of my children a week ago even saddens me more. I asked if this country ended up in a civil war what she would do if someone would come and invade her home. How would she protect herself from them if they took our guns away? Her answer was I will just call the police!
I believe in the right to bare arms. I reminded her of LA during the earthquake. How people reacted, rioting and asked what do you the police were able to do then?
She doesn't think it could happen.
I am older and a military brat. I was in Berlin Germany before the wall came down I went into east Germany and saw first hand how things were there. I believe all sorts of things can happen!
I don't like politics either.
I am one of the millions of self employed who now have been forced out of my small business to go to work as a drone in a factory doing what I hate just to make ends meat.
Talking with one of my children a week ago even saddens me more. I asked if this country ended up in a civil war what she would do if someone would come and invade her home. How would she protect herself from them if they took our guns away? Her answer was I will just call the police!
I believe in the right to bare arms. I reminded her of LA during the earthquake. How people reacted, rioting and asked what do you the police were able to do then?
She doesn't think it could happen.
I am older and a military brat. I was in Berlin Germany before the wall came down I went into east Germany and saw first hand how things were there. I believe all sorts of things can happen!
QUOTE (WonderTouched @ Feb 10 2008, 08:09 PM)
...I believe in the right to bare arms. ...
Well of course. Everyone, everywhere should have the right to wear a sleeveless shirt if they please.
QUOTE (frenat @ Feb 10 2008, 08:32 PM)
Well of course. Everyone, everywhere should have the right to wear a sleeveless shirt if they please.
I hope you got more out of what I wrote then misspelled words!
I believe in the right to (bear) arms.
Until the sheep will be slaughtered, their role in Illuminati overtime (1) resumes to this:
- prove that there are no limits to how completely they can be brainwashed.
April 23 - in response to the media previoulsy repeating that only a double digit victory in Pennsylvania can keep Hillary Clinton in the race, 5 pct Clinton is assigned 55 pct of the "votes"...
Notes
(1) http://illuminati-overtime.blogspot.com/
- prove that there are no limits to how completely they can be brainwashed.
April 23 - in response to the media previoulsy repeating that only a double digit victory in Pennsylvania can keep Hillary Clinton in the race, 5 pct Clinton is assigned 55 pct of the "votes"...
Notes
(1) http://illuminati-overtime.blogspot.com/
Outsider here but wanna briefly say, What happened to 'true genuine democracy & change'?...
If Clinton wins doesn't it kinda makes ya wonder...
The Clinton's combined estimated wealth is staggering (Hillary's more than Willy's)...
That also kinda makes ya wonder if she's the right kinda leader to represent the average & majority of Americans?
Just my bit on it anyway... thats it thats all.
If Clinton wins doesn't it kinda makes ya wonder...
The Clinton's combined estimated wealth is staggering (Hillary's more than Willy's)...
That also kinda makes ya wonder if she's the right kinda leader to represent the average & majority of Americans?
Just my bit on it anyway...
thats it thats all.
If Hillary gets elected, along comes Bill again....And what I hate most about politics over here is the campaign trail...It goes on forever..Debates should be scheduled yes, but limited to what's wrong with our country, which could take awhile, then have one day for a primary election throughout the states, just as we have one day for our presidential election...after months of campaigning, to me it gets to be the same old, same old and then the mud slinging begins......Of course it will never happen this way, that's why I'm bored with the whole thing...... 
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Feb 7 2008, 07:26 AM)
I dont think hillarys gonna win..noone wants an aristocracy...mccain will win big..
You mean like the Bush aristocracy?
QUOTE (Truth666 @ Feb 5 2008, 10:47 PM)
Just hours before Hillary Clinton will be "elected", a reminder: script and goal were explained worldwide only by End Times Prophet and echoed by few, very very few.
The Script
The script for the "election" of Hillary Clinton, supported by less than 5 pct of the population, as the last president of the US (unless the illuminati will have to terminate the script before), was explained worldwide only by End Times Prophet. (1)
Electing a candidate who did not manage to gather a crowd larger than 4,000 (including the hundreds of paid campaign personnel).
This despite the script for the role of the candidate supposed to lose (2), the "black" candidate by the name of Obama (as close as it can get to the CIA creation Osama).
Obama, the candidate with a 80+ muslim grandmother who has to pump her daily supply of fresh water from a hole in the ground somewehere in Africa.
Obama, the candidate with two main roles: to convince people that computers do not multiply the Clinton votes and to ask his crowds for a big cheer for Clinton, each time the "results" are announced.(3)
The main goal of the script
The goal of the script for the "election" of Hillary Clinton, was explained again worldwide only by End Times Prophet. It is as simple as this:
1. The masses in Illuminatiland have formally accepted to carry the mark of the beast in 2004. On their forehead and on their right hand, i.e. in thoughts and deeds. Only a few, VERY FEW, refused it. (4)
2. Once that happened, for the illuminati the only "new developments" in Illuminatiland until the final slaughter can be nothing but proving the Illuminati B-Plan, total deception (5), i.e. how completely they can fool and control the sheep. Ulltimately this resumes to seeking to reach as close as possible to the ultimate border, which is defined by explaining openly to the sheep how they were fooled.
In other words, the ultimate border is defined by the illuminati telling the sheep exactly what Matt Marriott told them during the ten years (6) that the battle of Armageddon lasted so far. (7)
Notes
(1) http://last-antichrist.blogspot.com/2007/0...ummies-two.html
(2) Currently only one result, and it's the right one
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%...osed+to+lose%22
(3) http://voting-machines.blogspot.com/2008/0...d-2004-for.html
(4) Halloween 2004 - last hours before almost all Americans formally accept to carry the mark of the beast
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/301542.shtml
(5) more about the Illuminati B-plan here: http://illuminati-religion.blogspot.com/
(6) A starting point here: http://best-seller-hoaxes.blogspot.com/
(7) http://armageddon-now.blogspot.com/
The Script
The script for the "election" of Hillary Clinton, supported by less than 5 pct of the population, as the last president of the US (unless the illuminati will have to terminate the script before), was explained worldwide only by End Times Prophet. (1)
Electing a candidate who did not manage to gather a crowd larger than 4,000 (including the hundreds of paid campaign personnel).
This despite the script for the role of the candidate supposed to lose (2), the "black" candidate by the name of Obama (as close as it can get to the CIA creation Osama).
Obama, the candidate with a 80+ muslim grandmother who has to pump her daily supply of fresh water from a hole in the ground somewehere in Africa.
Obama, the candidate with two main roles: to convince people that computers do not multiply the Clinton votes and to ask his crowds for a big cheer for Clinton, each time the "results" are announced.(3)
The main goal of the script
The goal of the script for the "election" of Hillary Clinton, was explained again worldwide only by End Times Prophet. It is as simple as this:
1. The masses in Illuminatiland have formally accepted to carry the mark of the beast in 2004. On their forehead and on their right hand, i.e. in thoughts and deeds. Only a few, VERY FEW, refused it. (4)
2. Once that happened, for the illuminati the only "new developments" in Illuminatiland until the final slaughter can be nothing but proving the Illuminati B-Plan, total deception (5), i.e. how completely they can fool and control the sheep. Ulltimately this resumes to seeking to reach as close as possible to the ultimate border, which is defined by explaining openly to the sheep how they were fooled.
In other words, the ultimate border is defined by the illuminati telling the sheep exactly what Matt Marriott told them during the ten years (6) that the battle of Armageddon lasted so far. (7)
Notes
(1) http://last-antichrist.blogspot.com/2007/0...ummies-two.html
(2) Currently only one result, and it's the right one
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%...osed+to+lose%22
(3) http://voting-machines.blogspot.com/2008/0...d-2004-for.html
(4) Halloween 2004 - last hours before almost all Americans formally accept to carry the mark of the beast
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/301542.shtml
(5) more about the Illuminati B-plan here: http://illuminati-religion.blogspot.com/
(6) A starting point here: http://best-seller-hoaxes.blogspot.com/
(7) http://armageddon-now.blogspot.com/
The only one's i don't agree with you about is president bush, and mcain. obama has closer ties with his dem rival, and the organization that is the religious socialist abortion that controls the entire dem side of congress, and the senate. It has been an interesting race with the so called bickering going on. They can afford to play against each other to keep potential dem voters away from the opposition, and bring several issues to bear to create pressure for the republican party.
Both the bills that were considered in the senate today and yesterday, the fair wage one, and the reimbursing of the world war two vets from the philipines{i spell for shisa} would accomplish two thing's, it would draw even more income from the war, and they are being used to take up the floors time. The dems are waiting for something, and in the meantime, are trying to slip things with clauses in, from whats been passing on the floor, that would give more authority to congress with various leverages.
The fake rousing speech the fat little female senater with the glass's gave, after the fair wage one did'nt pass, was to create yet another situation which would sow yet more discontent, and give an excuse to table any important issues, as they have been doing for sixteen months.
The republicans are waiting as well, and will not give the liberal/spiritualist/religious zionist coalition any ground they don't have to. Think about it, it is springtime, and we have a few more weeks for the ground to dry and firm, and the weather safe enough for children, and babies, to survive the cutting off of heat/power, and other essential services.
Something big is going to happen, and it will be this summer. A side effect of the high costs of everything is that no one can hoard food stashs beyond a couple of weeks with their leftover income, which would make any civil war as short as it takes to take out the religious zionists, who really have gone as far in their rebellion planning as to have formed and army/airforce. They will be hitting bases all over the terrortory's they want, for the equipment, and things have all ready been prearranged with insiders of their own people.
The same with any key power/ industrial capacity within the seperate nation they want to form from the terrortory's. They have made a deal with the black coalition as well, under the guise of their religions, and they intend to have their own terrortory as well. They already know it is treason, but their plans and actions have matured so far, that it has a momentum all its own now.
There is however, another force that is guiding them all, and it is the american jewish community. The ones who have been manuevering situations to their advantage in many nations throughout written history, and toppleing them, first through socialization/religious/secular/racial issues/discontent . Those nations have always been european/caucausion, except for the ones in the middle east they lied to, and dissposessed with war with help from their allies here.
They have already divied it up gentlemen, the actual event's that let them have it, will be this summer, if they win, and they won't. Treason always gets hung.
Where do they get this garbage?
Bill and hillary will be punished by he who is real, through their failure, and deaths, along with all the leaders and hardcore of the rebellion.
Have a good summer
Bill and hillary have never been leaders except here, Atlantis? hahahahaha! they will tremble and wail before he who is real, if they have such a thing going on with the cult stuff. The feminist movement for actual power will fail with them{hillarys private rebellion}
It is no accident that we are being swamped with all these issue's that have no revelance during the current crisis.
Bye then.
Have a good summer
Bill and hillary have never been leaders except here, Atlantis? hahahahaha! they will tremble and wail before he who is real, if they have such a thing going on with the cult stuff. The feminist movement for actual power will fail with them{hillarys private rebellion}
It is no accident that we are being swamped with all these issue's that have no revelance during the current crisis.
Bye then.
Hillary will not win the election. We would not want a female answeing the phone in the White House at 3 A.M.
No way.
No way.
the title of this thread, on the main page thingy, says "Just hours before Hillary Clinton will be el~" . "El" what? El presidente? Elevated to a higher place? Elaborately executed and her head displayed on a pole?
:-/
:-/
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 23 2008, 11:00 PM)
Bill and hillary will be punished by he who is real, through their failure, and deaths, along with all the leaders and hardcore of the rebellion.
Have a good summer
Bill and hillary have never been leaders except here, Atlantis? hahahahaha! they will tremble and wail before he who is real, if they have such a thing going on with the cult stuff. The feminist movement for actual power will fail with them{hillarys private rebellion}
It is no accident that we are being swamped with all these issue's that have no revelance during the current crisis.
Bye then.
Have a good summer
Bill and hillary have never been leaders except here, Atlantis? hahahahaha! they will tremble and wail before he who is real, if they have such a thing going on with the cult stuff. The feminist movement for actual power will fail with them{hillarys private rebellion}
It is no accident that we are being swamped with all these issue's that have no revelance during the current crisis.
Bye then.
Ahh... the slide into fundamental rhetoric. "God'll smite 'em and so forth..."
I've been expecting that.
--Jaylemurph
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 24 2008, 06:21 PM)
Ahh... the slide into fundamental rhetoric. "God'll smite 'em and so forth..."
I've been expecting that.
--Jaylemurph
I've been expecting that.
--Jaylemurph
There is no god, that is a figment of religious beliefs, what i'm talking about has nothing to do with such r******ed worldviews about what may be there.
It is part of the worlds problems. Atlantis however, what that word really means, is real.
But i've been expecting you to show us all the intellectual ass you really are, in your own views, and responses to others. I have said to you to leave me alone in other threads, as your viewpoints are ludicris at best within the sphere of the material presented.
This is'nt a college hall, it is the internet. But intellectuals seem to think they are correct, because they have studied the lies of history, and that is in their interests to push, to secure their own employment.
Don't respond to me, as you are only trying to insult and degrade me, and that is against forum policy.
Have a nice day
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 24 2008, 04:40 PM)
There is no god, that is a figment of religious beliefs, what i'm talking about has nothing to do with such r******ed worldviews about what may be there.
It is part of the worlds problems. Atlantis however, what that word really means, is real.
But i've been expecting you to show us all the intellectual ass you really are, in your own views, and responses to others. I have said to you to leave me alone in other threads, as your viewpoints are ludicris at best within the sphere of the material presented.
This is'nt a college hall, it is the internet. But intellectuals seem to think they are correct, because they have studied the lies of history, and that is in their interests to push, to secure their own employment.
Don't respond to me, as you are only trying to insult and degrade me, and that is against forum policy.
Have a nice day
It is part of the worlds problems. Atlantis however, what that word really means, is real.
But i've been expecting you to show us all the intellectual ass you really are, in your own views, and responses to others. I have said to you to leave me alone in other threads, as your viewpoints are ludicris at best within the sphere of the material presented.
This is'nt a college hall, it is the internet. But intellectuals seem to think they are correct, because they have studied the lies of history, and that is in their interests to push, to secure their own employment.
Don't respond to me, as you are only trying to insult and degrade me, and that is against forum policy.
Have a nice day
And the lies of grammar, eh?
I'm not insulting you, merely disagreeing with you. Of course, you wouldn't be the first to confound that for the worst sort of insult.
--Jaylemurph
Hey Jay, ya gotta admit tho, sometimes she makes it a little too easy...
The premise of Hillary winning is frightening, indeed. And I've long suspected she was in league with The Beast. But I'm not so sure she's the pivotal player foreseen by prophecies. She's not competent enough, nor commands enough support, IMO.
I mean, if Cheney and GW didn't spark the Apocalypse, then Hillie won't be dong it, either.
I mean, if Cheney and GW didn't spark the Apocalypse, then Hillie won't be dong it, either.
QUOTE (BigDaddy_GFS @ Apr 25 2008, 12:23 PM)
I mean, if Cheney and GW didn't spark the Apocalypse, then Hillie won't be dong it, either.
Here, here.
--Jaylemurph
Hahahaha! whatever jay, as i said, it's just the internet, and i have a very active mind. Whether you believe me or not, has never been a concern for me, as i tell everyone from time to time. The lies of grammer have a direct link to the lies of history, to simplify what i meant without the refference to intellectuals, and thats as much of an apology you will get from me. 
The events of history once went that way, and i have seen them, you don't want to know the damage they caused{religious zionists/feminists/liberals} that culminated in the destruction of America, and the rest of the world. But as i said to jay, i don't ask for belief, as belief is nothing compared to what is.
President Bush is the one chosen to lead the people from religious slavery, and liberal/feminist insanity, he who is real loves him. And he is much more competant then the people have been led to believe, through the religious zionist propaganda machine that the libprogs have.
He sets the stage for what happens after the people become strong again, in preperation for the challenge that is approaching, after this hardpoint event sequence that sets it up is completed.
He is an honorable/decent man, and he is a great leader, whatever anyone else may think of him. He can handle the hard choices that he must.
That religious zionists/liberals/spiritualists spit on the concept of honor will be their undoing, for in their blindness and treason, they fail to see the people watching their folly's they distort as freedom. President Bush is more pragmatic, and he knows what is, and it's not the insane fantasy's of the aforementioned traitors.
President Bush is the one chosen to lead the people from religious slavery, and liberal/feminist insanity, he who is real loves him. And he is much more competant then the people have been led to believe, through the religious zionist propaganda machine that the libprogs have.
He sets the stage for what happens after the people become strong again, in preperation for the challenge that is approaching, after this hardpoint event sequence that sets it up is completed.
He is an honorable/decent man, and he is a great leader, whatever anyone else may think of him. He can handle the hard choices that he must.
That religious zionists/liberals/spiritualists spit on the concept of honor will be their undoing, for in their blindness and treason, they fail to see the people watching their folly's they distort as freedom. President Bush is more pragmatic, and he knows what is, and it's not the insane fantasy's of the aforementioned traitors.
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 25 2008, 07:36 PM)
And he is much more competant then the people have been led to believe, through the religious zionist propaganda machine that the libprogs have.
Indeed, I think we all can agree that "competant" is an ideal word for describing Bush. He could do no better himself.
--Jaylemurph
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 26 2008, 06:41 AM)
Indeed, I think we all can agree that "competant" is an ideal word for describing Bush. He could do no better himself.
--Jaylemurph
--Jaylemurph
Spelling words correctly does'nt make a great leader, and that is something those who consider themselves learned with degrees, will never understand, and why they are occasionally culled from society, along with all the garbage they come up with. It is a natraul process to purify the people of such nonsense.
To keep them clean.
Goodbye then.
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 26 2008, 06:57 PM)
Spelling words correctly does'nt make a great leader, and that is something those who consider themselves learned with degrees, will never understand, and why they are occasionally culled from society, along with all the garbage they come up with. It is a natraul process to purify the people of such nonsense.
To keep them clean.
Goodbye then.
To keep them clean.
Goodbye then.
If only yo'ud take you're own avdice adn just say good-bye and remains queit aech tyme uyo threatened.
--Jaylemurph
A show for the fools while the real power devises its real plans.
funny how so many are afraid of hillary but were dumb enough to vote not once but twice for the moron we have now.
rebel posted a pic few pages back.. with just a small edit.. this is what eventuates.. scary stuff
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 26 2008, 01:36 AM)
The events of history once went that way, and i have seen them, you don't want to know the damage they caused{religious zionists/feminists/liberals} that culminated in the destruction of America, and the rest of the world. But as i said to jay, i don't ask for belief, as belief is nothing compared to what is.
President Bush is the one chosen to lead the people from religious slavery, and liberal/feminist insanity, he who is real loves him. And he is much more competant then the people have been led to believe, through the religious zionist propaganda machine that the libprogs have.
He sets the stage for what happens after the people become strong again, in preperation for the challenge that is approaching, after this hardpoint event sequence that sets it up is completed.
He is an honorable/decent man, and he is a great leader, whatever anyone else may think of him. He can handle the hard choices that he must.
That religious zionists/liberals/spiritualists spit on the concept of honor will be their undoing, for in their blindness and treason, they fail to see the people watching their folly's they distort as freedom. President Bush is more pragmatic, and he knows what is, and it's not the insane fantasy's of the aforementioned traitors.
President Bush is the one chosen to lead the people from religious slavery, and liberal/feminist insanity, he who is real loves him. And he is much more competant then the people have been led to believe, through the religious zionist propaganda machine that the libprogs have.
He sets the stage for what happens after the people become strong again, in preperation for the challenge that is approaching, after this hardpoint event sequence that sets it up is completed.
He is an honorable/decent man, and he is a great leader, whatever anyone else may think of him. He can handle the hard choices that he must.
That religious zionists/liberals/spiritualists spit on the concept of honor will be their undoing, for in their blindness and treason, they fail to see the people watching their folly's they distort as freedom. President Bush is more pragmatic, and he knows what is, and it's not the insane fantasy's of the aforementioned traitors.
This reminds me why I love this sub-forum so much, as one of the richest sources of comedy on the InterNet.
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 25 2008, 07:18 PM)
The lies of grammer have a direct link to the lies of history
Oh, man... this hilarity will get me though the next week...
"Clinton to exit race tomorrow" while "Obama celebrates victory" signals the final chapter of the "comeback kid Clinton as the last president of the US" script.
Reminder:
Obama's main role is to confirm that voting machines count Clinton's 5 pct votes correctly.Ron Paul's main role is to confirm that voting machines count McCain 1 pct votes correctly.Main Role of senile McCain as alternative to next "elected" president Clinton is to prove that the illuminati can sell ANYTHING to the "human cattle".
All has been explained long ago:
http://last-antichrist.blogspot.com/2007/0...ummies-two.html
http://end-times-data.blogspot.com/2008/02...n-horrible.html
http://end-times-prophet.blogspot.com/2008...on-will-be.html
http://end-times-computers.blogspot.com/20...ckobamacom.html
Reminder:
Obama's main role is to confirm that voting machines count Clinton's 5 pct votes correctly.Ron Paul's main role is to confirm that voting machines count McCain 1 pct votes correctly.Main Role of senile McCain as alternative to next "elected" president Clinton is to prove that the illuminati can sell ANYTHING to the "human cattle".
All has been explained long ago:
http://last-antichrist.blogspot.com/2007/0...ummies-two.html
http://end-times-data.blogspot.com/2008/02...n-horrible.html
http://end-times-prophet.blogspot.com/2008...on-will-be.html
http://end-times-computers.blogspot.com/20...ckobamacom.html
Hillary is, indeed, the antichrist.
Incidentally, brave of you to come back and resurrect this, now that it would seem to have been proved to be wrong, I must say. I've no idea what you're talking about with your latest theory, of course, but most conspiratorialists would just hide after they'd been proved so wrong.
Incidentally, brave of you to come back and resurrect this, now that it would seem to have been proved to be wrong, I must say. I've no idea what you're talking about with your latest theory, of course, but most conspiratorialists would just hide after they'd been proved so wrong.
QUOTE (747400 @ Jun 5 2008, 01:37 PM)
Incidentally, brave of you to come back and resurrect this, now that it would seem to have been proved to be wrong, I must say. I've no idea what you're talking about with your latest theory, of course, but most conspiratorialists would just hide after they'd been proved so wrong.
You think? In my experience, most would just tell their new theory that's really real this time and really explains what 's going on, and stalwartly ignore the suggestion they were ever wrong in the first place.
--Jaylemurph
QUOTE (Truth666 @ Jun 5 2008, 12:44 PM)
"Clinton to exit race tomorrow" while "Obama celebrates victory" signals the final chapter of the "comeback kid Clinton as the last president of the US" script.
Reminder:
Obama's main role is to confirm that voting machines count Clinton's 5 pct votes correctly.Ron Paul's main role is to confirm that voting machines count McCain 1 pct votes correctly.
Reminder:
Obama's main role is to confirm that voting machines count Clinton's 5 pct votes correctly.Ron Paul's main role is to confirm that voting machines count McCain 1 pct votes correctly.
What doo dat means?!?!
Help Jayle...translation required.
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