It's Saturday and it's been a no show. I'd have been disappointed if I had any hope in the first place but thankfully I didn't...

It's hard to be let down when you don't expect too much in the first place.

Maybe he's been taken up?

Well, if Heart comes back and admits to his fualts, I am willing to accept that.

Faults? maybe he is not fault at all.

I don't know about you Electro! But, making claims then saying you will prove them and then not, is a big fualt in my book.

If I remember correctly, he asked for another week. If its a fault to you, its none of my bunisness. And why do you expect all members to be here everyday? Is he a prisoner? He can do whatever he wants.

Do not put words in my mouth Electro, I never said any such thing. Your assumptions have caused you to fail yet again.

Yes Heart can do whatever he wants! But, when a pesron says they are going to do something people put trust in
them that they will abide by their words.


Anyway, I am done responding to you as you have nothing beneficial to say on these subjects. (Well, other than your
wise-crack jabs at people trying to protect other members, that serves no purpose and shows your weakness.

Good day to you.


Regards,
Tom

Oh well if i like, I can make many posts saying things like I will post a video I have 10 eyes 11 mouths and 100 ears. And I don't have to post it and can still go around the fourms. Because Only a few people will care.

Give it enough time or enough posts and the powers that be here will care......

Disappointed but not surprised, I remain,

Kevin A.

And so?

That is a bad analogy. There have been many pin/psiwheel videos made and put on here. How many videos have you seen of someone with 10 eyes, 11 mouths, and 100 ears?


You seem like an upset child that didn't get his way.

Oh well its a good analogy. I often see that at the movies.

I don't have to be upset fella. I don't even know you. Wouldn't get upset because of you.

You always seem upset. Its easy to see from your posts.

Oh yes the word is seems. But you don't know how happy I actually am.

how do you do them?
plz tell me

By showing that there is no evidence for the said claim, although many simply cannot accept the answers we give.

I have tried making these psiballs for a few days now! I have come to the conclusion that they are nothing more than biofeedback.

I would cup my hands about six or so inches apart! Sure enough after a few minutes, I would get this electric, tingling sensation between my hands. When I concentrated, my eyes would even start having a hard time focusing, and this would cause me to see little particles of light moving around and in between my cupped hands.

This is not abnormal. Pay a attention when I say this! When a person extends their hands out in front of them, (Placing their hands in a cupped position for this situation.) and leaving them there for a while, the blood flow starts to decrease in your hands and even sometimes a little in the arms, this causes a tingling sensation in the hands. (This feeling may vary between people depending on how long they leave their arms extended out.)

As for thinking you see something in between your hands! Well, this is just simply from concentrating to long on a specific area. Your eyes get tired and they can't focus, some may even see little white lights! This is nothing more than blood cells moving around in your eyes.

For anyone claiming they have learned to control these supposed psiballs, then good for you. You have practiced this enough to be able to gain the above mentioned faster, possibly even moving your hands around looking as if you have control over the supposed psiball. Some may have even gone so far as to gain control over the blood flow going to their hands, (Biofeedback!) obtaining even better results.

Anyway, from what I have discovered, this is nothing more than a natural body function.



Regards,
Tom

I do it with my eyes closed athiest...So the hypothosist that it may be from eye strain is ruled out...

Still doesn't make it real. You want to belive this. It seems to blind you.

Then tell me Heart! How did you come about seeing anything when you made a psiball?

Edit: By the way, I am not Atheist God.

Ahh sorry, Moro, I thought Athiest had said that...Lol

And, I made the visible one, by creating the psi ball(Eyes closed) then I imagine the ball in my hands, but it disapear, and explodes in a bright light, thats when I opened my eyes...

So basically as soon as you opened your eyes the psiball was gone? IE you never actually saw any of it with your eyes open?

If so, no worries. It happens to me all the time. At least if opening your eyes and psiballs are now slang for waking up and cheerleaders.

Kevin A.

ah and the arguement continues.
no reason to harp on heart.

the one thing that prevents me from showing you what a psiball is, and let you feel it for yourself is distance.
we are on the internet here and we are a global comunity ( keep this in mind )
it would cost you some money to come to where i live for me to prove it to you.
you cannot see a psi ball, and a video camera would not pick it up.
as for the video that heart got sucked into the whole timeline from everyone for making.
its a video, and as was stated before, there are tonns of videos out there ( real and fake )
but is easier to say they are faked then to open to the possability that they might be real.
as for the whole scientific aspect of study and all.
take a look at the giggle factor.
what this means, in the scientific comunity there are "real" projects going on ( accepted by the comunity )
and there are the ones exploring the things that defy explanation ( laughable - not accepted by the community - as was the sun being in the center of the univers at one time, or the earth being round, and then we get into the whole realm of some real breakthroughs - tesla )
some of what tesla was studying was considered to be way out there, and the scientific community laughed at him ( lighting up a flourescent light from a power source 7 kilometers away by transmitting power though the ground )

not all who try to do these things without some help and guidence will have success - this is a truth.
but not all will have the same results - this is also a truth. ( anybody remember the whole cold fusion hoopla )

i have learned over the years that you cannot change the world over night ( just not going to happen )
the only effective way is one person at a time.
i believe, and i leave a trail of people behind me that have seen something they cant explain, and want to learn.

once again, i am no where near the teen years.
old enough to be a parent to a bunch of you, and with all the touring i did years ago, i just might be.

No, I don't think you are grasping the difficulty with psi-balls. Nothing prevents a demonstration, because everybody can do this for themselves.

The proprioceptive part (all those tingles and feelings as if there is something in your hands when there isn't) can be mastered in minutes. The visual part, if any, takes most people a little longer, but not much longer if they are interested enough, and not too demanding about what they will accept as "something."

If people tried to elicit auditory or olfactory effects, then they would succeed, too.

The hitch is that it is completely unmysterious why a certain set of exercises will reliably produce these sensations. The one and only reason for thinking that anything extraordinary is happening is because "graphic novelists" plop a blob of white paint between the hands of their characters doing these exercises, and maybe add a Shazam! on the side for good measure.

No, Shazam is a superman-like character with super strength, speed and flight. I've read some pretty good Shazam comics too. But if you want some really good graphic novels, check out the Sandman comics by Neil Gaiman. They're pretty amazing. Or pick up volume one of Transmetropolitan.

I also close my eyes when playing with my balls, it DOES lead to eye-strain, hence I wear glasses.



I have no difficulty grasping my balls, I DO have trouble controlling them sometimes however. In fact it feels like they often control me. Perhaps I need to develop the "psi" part of this exercise further!!!

Have you tried this yourself then?
If so, please list the sensations you felt...


But, you are saying that this is pretty much just tricking the mind, but I've been able to shell my psi-balls...And they'll stay wherever I leave em for hours...I can go back to the place I left them, and still be able to feel the energy from it...I also made a psi shiled(Same as the ball, just is used to go around something, usually to protect against psychic assults) anyways, I once made a psi shield, and was able to shield my door...I shield myself alot, to keep the thoughts and emotions of others from flooding me, but I shielded my door and was able to feel this field of energy radiating from it...If psi-balls were truely a trick of the mind, the "object" in question(In this case, the psi-ball) Would dispear as soon as you were to move your hands...They wouldn't last for extended periods of time...

With this amount of energy coming out of your mind Heart! I would say you should be able to give us a reasonable demonstration. The psiwheel should be well behind you, as you talk about abilites far beyond this simple contraption.

Needless to say, I do not believe hardly any of the amazing claims you put on here. You make yourself out to be some type of child prodigy. Fortunately, I am well beyond these selfish, mediocre, fantastical claims, and can see right through it.

Exactly. I will give him this. He should take up writing since he is so good at posting fiction.

So, how do I do that? What amazing claims do I claim? I simpily know telepathy, psi-balls, and telekinesis, empathy too....All at pretty low levels...Thats not making myself to be a child prodigy...The claims I make, are very small compared to normal psions...

The claims you make are worthless since you choose not to prove them.

GOOD GRIEF...

If you can perform telapathy on any level! Go to a psychaitrist and read their thoughts about you.
Then prove to the psychiatrist that you read his thoughts, if the things you got right are random
and insufficient, then you are guessing.

Psiballs... Nope, no proof. As well you cannot provide any.

Telekinesis... Well, your video is still pending observation.

Empathy... Well people tend to gather peoples feelings! These feelings effect people differently, this is normal.
Some people can even gather enough information out of people by reading their expressions as well as body
language, then tell that person exactly how they are feeling without them having to say anything.
There is nothing really special about this.


Edit: By the way! The term Psion, was invented in the field of parapsychology, but gained little acceptance.
The term is often used in works of fantasy and science fiction as well as video games and role-playing games.

So, do tell me! What is a normal psion?

I meant a skilled psion...

And, telepathy, isn't reading minds...I can usually send and relay messages to people, they usually don't conciously recieve them, cause most people don't know telepathy, but their subconcious gets it, cause If I send "turn around" 8/10 times they do....I can sometimes pick up surface thoughts, or deep daydreams they are having, but it's not liek I can "read minds"


I never claim to have amazing abilities...I keep them very suttle and modest, but people blow them out of proportion, like I think I'm some kinda miracle worker...

You are claiming to move objects with just the power of your mind. You are claiming to create balls of energy between your hands. You are claiming to communicate telepathically to send message. You are claiming to be able to read peoples thoughts.

You are claiming things no one on the face of the planet for the entire history of mankind has been able to prove exist. By definition these are amazing things and most cultures would consider it a miracle that you are capable of such things.

Heart listen to me here. One simple telepathic thought transmission. One simple telekinetic actions on an object. One simple "astral projection". One single little bit of real undeniable psi ability would fly in the face of everything we know, think we know or hypothesize about. This single little bit of real undeniable psi ability would truly be an amazing thing and on the same level as any miracle one could think of. There is no subtle or modest psi ability. Think about that.....

Kevin A.

Well...I must say i have been practicing with PSI for quite some time now and from my personal experince with it the purpose of PSI is to retrieve the energy from something, say the sun, to use for basically anything you want. Most commonly when practicing PSI depending on where you draw your energy too, wether it be your hands or your third eye (i normally use my hands) you tend to feel a heat coming from that particualr area. But then again, I am drawing from my own experience.

You know your third eye is actually the gland that controls melatonin release, to make you sleep.
The "psi-ball" is an explained. It is just the result of basic physiological effects, not any psychic energy. For energy, eating and sleeping are the way forward.

I never claimed to read minds, I can just pick up surface thoughts, but it's usually just communication...And, TK isn't that amazing...I mean, I thought it would be, but when I did it, you don't even relize how awsome it is, until you actually think about it...But, psychic stuff isn't all that amazing, it's very modest...Poeple twist my words though, and make it sound like I think I'm god...

If you could do even some of these things you have posted on here, you would be absolutely amazing.
"A prodigy." Unfortunately, the only thing we have to go with is your word that you can indeed do these
things.

maybe he typed this while he was lucid dreaming and sleepwalking (despite the sleep paralysis, bc he's that good)

This is indistinguishable from the ramblings of a madman.

I'm worried about these delusions you are having. This is actually quite serious.

There are many others on here who claim the same stuff as me, the only reason you all go after me, is cause I'm the only one who has been willing to try and combat you skeptics full time...Everyone else has pretty much given up cause you're so hard headed...Just wondering, how many of you are christians? Or any religion?

I have no religious beliefs but I fail to see how that is in any way relevant to the this debate and the position I hold.

Just wnated to know...Because, I wanted to know if you believe in anything that cant be proven, like a good or something...Guess not...

For the record I am a "Materialist" or what is also called a "Physicalist".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicalism

Just so you know what kind of mindset I have when I look at the world through my eyes.

Thats wondeful

I'll be sure and try to visit you from Heavan...Don't think hell has visiting hours though...

There is no need to try and push your religious belief on anyone. You should take your thoughts on religion
to the religious section of this forum.

Yea, I'm sorry, that was un-called for...Sorry Papaver...

Like water off a ducks back...

If you do pop your clogs before me, which I hope you do not as I've had the pleasure of many more years of life than you have, I'd like you to try to pay me that visit. It'd be a nice experiment.

Houdini said that he'd try to give us a sign from the "other side" in the event of his death. You may have psi powers but if anyone could escape from the next realm that anyone would be Houdini.

Unfortunately we're still waiting...

Well, Houdini's tricks all had hidden ways for them to be cracked...Sadly, heavan isn't as staged as his tricks were...

And besides, maybe he has given signs, we just haven't noticed...

Or maybe, heaven is such a beautiful place, he doesn't want to leave...

Well, at least we know his tricks existed at all...