My point exactly! How do we know the so called UFO star ships are simply new and advanced military related aircrafts of modern warfare. Who knows, there could be actual aliens in area 51 or they're just trying to make something that'd make a bigger "Boom" than the last toy.

we dont. its just no one comes forward and talks about it. as opposed to all the people coming forth and lending some kind of credence to the ET theory.
IMO

what about the governmented files, videos of ufos, ufo pictures, and even whitness accounts.
there is plenty of evidence, the reason people dont get every ufo that is whitness is because, get real, no person, especially a person who dosnt bieleve in them, would carry around a video recorder and a digital camera everywhere they go!
there are many government files that have documented evidence of aliens and ufo's.
so odnt just go saying, theres no evidence, when there is evidence infront of your face!

Why would botanists travel for months and thousands of miles in sailing ships just a few hundred years ago to look at flowers? Knowledge, the study of everything.

I'm not saying that there's no such thing. But if you suspect them to be buzzing around in those ship, wouldn't that mean their intellegent? So if they know a thing or two why hide? Why not greet another species with your own? They may have a hidden meaning, I don't know. But if ur UFO, what would you do when find another planet that's populated?

i would study the civilizations or creatures. basically do what we do now with animals.
(and id work on my grammar and spelling )

Exactly

I'm using my psp so it's really hard to type. Sorry

understood.
my apologies then.

Because, there is no other explanation for those objects.

For an example, the objects were visually identified, typically, as flying machines that were intelligently controlled and confirmed on radar. Not only were military and commerical aircrews identifying the objects visually, but scientist, engineers, astronomers, and meteorogist, were visually identifying the objects as flying saucers with their optical instruments.

In fact, the weather folks in Richmond, Virginia had visually identified flying saucers with their own instruments months before Kenneth Arnold's sighting. Check it out!

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TOP SECRET AF cy 102
CONTROL
No 6637

During observations of weather balloons at the Richmond Bureau, one well trained observer has sighted strange metallic disks on three occasions and another observer has sighted a similar object on one occasion. The last observation of unidentified objects was in April, 1947.

On all four occasions the weather balloon and the unidentified objects were in view through the theodolite. These observations at the Richmond Bureau occurred several months before publicity on the flying saucers appeared in a U.S. new spaper.

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As you can see, Kenneth Arnold wasn't the first, but then again, flying saucer reports go back for centuries anyway.

So? All of that could of been anything. There's a difference between UFO and an alien. But when you hear UFO you jump to assumptions that its gotta be an alien. Have you seen Iron Man? They didn't know what it was, now don't tell me it's just a movie. Because I know. What if people are working on personal projects? Maybe other countries are spying? It could be anything. I know there are others out there, but I doubt in our galaxy.

It is all very simple.

Did we have hypersonic flying saucers capable of such high speed flight and not leave behind any sonic booms?

If the answer is no, then you have your answer, because the flying saucers have been verified visually, and on radar, thousands of times.

A very good arguement on your part. But keep in mind, just because they've eliminated one act physics would take, as the "sonic boom" doesn't mean it isn't of this planet. Japan is pretty advanced, it could be them. But lets say there were aliens here. Where do you think they came from? All our planets are empty and totally incapable of sustaining life. They can't just be hovering around beyond the outter rim, or we would know about them by now. Why would the gov. kept em a secret?

I agree, we are probably nothing special in the grand order of things, but this does not add weight to either side of the ET visitation debate. Being important or being non-important is irrelevant to any possilbe solution to this enigma.

UFO sightings spiked significantly after the atom bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Do you honestly think Japan would be financially capable of such a feat? Considering the frequency of sightings across the globe, these objects would have had to be mass produced at an inconceivable rate. The price for such massive production would be astronomical. And for what purpose? Obviously the technology wasn't put to good use for other purposes -- even militarily. Not to mention the fact that such a quantum leap in technology hardly seems plausible for a civilization still tinkering with chemical rockets as a means of propulsion.



They wouldn't have to originate from our solar system to pay us a visit. They could easily set up temporary settlements anywhere they like for shorter trips after making a longer voyage to an area of interest. Using primitive equipment (of which we will soon have; i.e. Terrestrial Planet Finder) they could have been able to detect life on our planet billions of years ago. Another way to be aware of our existence could be with the use of probes -- Von Neumann probes (named after John Von Neumann, who established the mathematical laws of self-replicating systems). These probes would land at a given destination and use the resources available to make replications of themselves. These replicated probes would then scatter out to new destinations and continue the process. Eventually there would be trillions of Von Neumann probes expanding in all directions, increasing at a fraction of the speed of light. In this fashion, a galaxy 100,000 light years across could be completely analyzed in a half million years!

Keep in mind that the average age of Sun-like stars in the habitable zone of the Milky Way galaxy is a BILLION years OLDER than our Sun. That would be more than enough time for a nearby civilization to become aware of our existence. Surely they would realize our destructive habits and would be wise to prevent us from taking these habits with us out to the stars. They would fear for their own safety as well as those less advanced civilizations that might be vulnerable. It would make sense to keep an eye on us.



Who is to say the government doesn't already know of their existence? It would be wise to keep such information out of the public domain.

First and foremost, I think it is relevant to prove there is a cover-up, before we go about speculating on why such information would be locked up in government vaults never to see the light of day. A January 31, 1949 FBI memo specifically stated that the Army and Air Force considered the subject of UFOs to be Top Secret. There is also, of course, the famous Wilbert Smith document, dated 21 November 1950. Wilbert Smith was the Senior Radio Engineer with the Canadian Government's Department of Transport and the document was addressed to the Controller of Telecommunications, formerly classified Top Secret (it's extremely rare for any documents above Secret to be released, even under FOIA). In it he stated, "Flying saucers exist." And "The matter is the most highly classified subject in the United States Government, rating higher than even the H-bomb." I could also go on to discuss the acts of CAUS in the late 1970's, taking the CIA and NSA to court over requests for UFO-related documents. Instead of retelling the story, I'll just refer you to a previous thread I created for this particular topic, albeit just a brief overview: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...c=79121&hl=

That is by no means all the evidence I could put forth to prove that there is a cover-up. It's simply a brief overview.

Now, as to why the government would cover up such information, I think it's pretty clear-cut. Consider the time period. These reports began flowing in shortly after the war. It would be totally irresponsible for the government to come forward and say "UFOs are real. We can't do anything about them invading our airspace. We don't know who they are, where they're from or what they want. We just thought you'd like to know."

Other considerations:

1. It is obvious that most governments across the globe would covet the advanced flight technology these UFOs possess. They are more manueverable, faster, quieter, and stealthier than anything any country on this planet had then and most likely has now. Clearly, whichever country could successfully reverse engineer such a craft would rule the world. Additionally, in the event that an enemy country had successfully reverse engineered such craft before you, you had better have a plan for defending against them.

2. Should they decide to attack us, we would be defenseless.

3. If we had access to such technology (from a crashed saucer, perhaps) we certainly wouldn't want our enemies to be aware. We didn't go around touting our creation of the atom bomb, and for good reason.

4. If suggestions were made that the aliens could help us heal the sick, feed the starving and redistribute the wealth, this would be a threat to the upper class.

5. Most countries wouldn't like the idea of an "earthling" orientation over a nationalistic one. This could threaten their authority.

6. Many religious extremists would find it difficult to accept. Many believe there is no intelligent life anywhere but on Earth. Some also believe that this "UFO stuff" is the work of the devil.

7. Considering the visitors must be more technologically advanced than us, this announcement might soon lead to the discovery of new methods of energy production, which would do a lot of damage to the oil, gas and coal industries. Economic chaos would ensue. Take a look at what happened to Russia after the fall of Communism.

8. There are many cases in which military jets were sent up to intercept UFOs invading restricted airspace and were never heard from again.

9. Imagine the reaction of the public when the government reveals that they can't do anything to prevent alien abduction events from occurring.

And that's just off the top of my head.

There is noway to know...if real...that the occupants of that "disc" are aliens. From what I can tell noone saw them!? And that makes Skyeagle wrong. His - Who else and we dont have those crafts so it must have been the grays..is flawed logic.

Other dimensions...the future...or some unknown reality could be the answer aswell as ET...not even to mention the terrestrial UFOlogy nonsense...And that makes skyeagles ETH fall flat on its butt.

I guess it's possible, but if there are such advanced alien civilizations out there...why haven't we seen any sign of them yet? I mean, are they 'hiding'? But, if they're so advanced why bother hiding? Certainly they have nothing to fear from beings so primitive that they've yet to even venture out into their own solar system? The idea that ET is hiding from us is rather assumptive IMO.





Agreed, if such information actually does exist.






I've had very similar thoughts on the subject, and such speculation may, or may not, be valid. How are we going to know for sure? Without access to some means of corroboration a large amount of UFO evidence remains simply anecdotal. Also, not all governments on Earth get along very well (to say the least), why would all governments be on the same page with keeping this information under cover? Like I said, there's just no way (that I can see) how the government cover up hypothesis can be readily validated. What we have here seems to me to be a real catch-22.

The technology as demonstarted over the decades, exlude us outright, especially since they have been clocked at hypersonic speeds as they conducted right-angled maneuvers back during the early 1950's and we still don't have anythong on the drawing boards today that even come close. In fact, future military aircraft are still tagged to use conventional jet propulsion systems.



Not even close! I might add that Japan has also been reporting saucer-shaped objects as well, In fact, such a sighting occurred in the year; 1133, and there were similar sightings in the later years.



NORAD has been tracking them as they arrive from deep space and others have been seen as they rose from beneath the oceans of the world.



That is exactly what happened here as they were observed hovering around 200 miles above Earth.

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Alamogor...O_Aug_1947.html
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In fact, some of the UFO reports in Project Blue Book are those of astronomers.




Fear of panic.

They must...no option as an order

They definitely couldn't have been whales, and the technology demonstrated, clearly shows the technology wasn't ours. Just a matter of logical thinking, you understand.



Well, somone was piloting the craft and it had windows. As noted by the one of the pilots of the B-52 that they encountered a flying saucer over the Minot AFB area;


It was extraterresrial

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Minot AFB UFO Incident

"The Minot control tower diverted a B-52 to investigate. The navigator on the B-52, Capt. Patrick McCaslin, remembers what he saw on the radar screen: "This thing was climbing out with us and maintaining the same heading we were. That was unusual. But what really watered my eyes [was] when this thing backed away and allowed us to turn inside of it."

"Capt. Brad Runyon, the B-52's co-pilot, says he remembers the "overall object was a minimum of 200 feet in diameter and it was hundreds of feet long."

"It had a metallic cylinder attached to another section that was shaped like a crescent moon. I felt that this crescent moon part was probably the command center. I tried to look inside the thing, but all I could see was a yellow glow."

"He says at that point he was fairly sure it was an alien spaceship, and when the crew members returned to base, they reported their sighting."

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Not wrong at all.

Apparentlyl, you didn't even read my response so the question is: why have you now placed yourself in a very difficult situation on this thread? Once again, you have corfirmed my claims about UFO debunkers.

Thanks for your support!




Okay, then I will use the logic of the typical UFO debunker.

A flying saucer was visually identified by an aircrew as a saucer-shaped machine that was maneuvering around their aircraft as the jet was cruising around 550 mph. The saucer then proceeded to zoom off at 9000 mph, which was also tracked on multiple radar systems as it maneuvered around the aircraft and as it left the area at hypersonic speed. The object's size was 100 meters in diameter and portholes and rotating beacon lights were noted on the saucer-shaped craft.

Now, using the logial thinking of an UFO debunker, the 100 meter saucer-shaped craft that maneuvered around the jet aircraft for some 30 minutes at 550 mph and then zoomed away at hypersonic speed, was planet Jupiter.

Such logical thinking on the part of UFO debunkers, is why they continue to claim that:

"If it walks like a duck, flies like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a moose."

Just for fun,What if those atom bomb test in the pacific in the fourty`s and fifty`s did mutate a manta ray to 100 meters and its still flying around Japan looking for trouble with that Big Lizard Godzilla? It could happen! well when pigs fly maybe sorta kinda? just DONTEATUS4fun

AstroPro is totally right.

Or maybe they [aliens] want to be kept a secret, maybe they are studying us like we study animals, abduct, and tag, and follow the behavior.

And perhaps they are on Iapetus, or Enceladus, or jumping from moon to moon.

Now this is a tricky moral question.....I'm in the public domain...the majority of people are in the public
domain....why should we be kept in the dark? The question of ETs existing and visiting earth is argueably
THE biggest question that there is. To deny the majority of people this knowledge is elitism at it's worst.
It kind of turns the whole thing into a religion.....where the priests/leaders control the belief-structure of
the 'flock'.

This is how 'things' have been done and are done.....but the question is....do we have the moral 'right' to know
about something that is so incredible and amazing....

No-one wants society and the economic structure to break down....with the chaos that that would bring...but
maybe keeping it a secret in the first place has compounded the problem...because people are going to feel
cheated and are going to mistrust the 'secret-holders'. When 'the leaders' treat 'the population' like children
who must be kept in the dark regarding certain matters....then it's no wonder that many of the population
will behave immaturely. Education was, and is, the key....but now there is a 50 year 'hole' in the education
of the public in the public domain. (or maybe there's a 10,000 year+ education hole......??)




Maybe, with a war-traumatised population, to keep it under wraps for a couple of years is acceptable...but
not 60 years.

Also....as it's all a MEGA SECRET....who's to say that government(s) DON'T know who they are, where they're
from or what they want. Perhaps they DO know....?

Then IMO, they're doing a pretty lousy job, considering they keep trailing airliners, and flying over small towns (Stephenville, Soccoro), or near big cities (Phoenix).

BTW, do the passengers on airliners ever report seeing the same things as the pilots? Where are those reports?

i think they have on occasion. bt its more so the pilots, because theyre looking right outa the cockpit, and have radar on board (i assume).

The pilots will also under rules and reg`s not alert the passengers of any sightings of these orgins.I have lots of pilot freinds and fly myself its not a smart idea to unsettle the weight and panic level of the loads in the aircraft. people being a big load in more ways than one. Thats why when you fly the cockpit crew only points out the boreing stuff you really cant see from the air like a river or city. But lots of pilots have seen unidentified objects ,now there finally reporting some of them. IMO

very true. not the wisest thing to tell people when theyre on a plane.
and yes some pilots are coming forth with is Really helpful. because in the past there have been airline pilots that went around talking about what happened on their flight, and they were fined like $10000, and then relieved of duty.

Yes, and in fact, FOX news reported not long ago that both, aircrew and passengers, witnessed an object in regards to one encounter.

I tryed to shoot down a UFO last nite in the Edwards airbase area from my F-18 but just couldnt quite get a good radar lock on it. Flight simulatorX accelarated,mission sele,Fast intercept. LoL at least its fun for a while. And its funny how reffrences about aliens are in that program. DONTEATUS

Which only makes sense, because as you say, pilots are looking out the windows constantly, but passengers often do as well (though not all, and not all the time, but if a UFO is shining lights all around, and darting around the airliner, as they are often portrayed, I'd be astounded if only the pilots saw them. Especially if the UFO is reported to be larger than two aircraft carriers. That'd be hard to miss, I'd think).

true. but if its ahead of the plane, or down infront somewhere, theyre going to be the only ones to see it.
but yes, i agree, passaengers would, or Should see something if its there

Especially if the pilots perform some sort of evasive maneuvers. Civil pilots have done that, yes? I mean, not just military pilots?

Who is to say they are necessarily hiding? Who is to say they haven't spoken directly to world leaders, or landed and mingled with the locals? Additionally, why would they feel the need to introduce themselves when they can already go about their business with absolute impunity? Perhaps they think we're already aware of their presence. One of the primary reasons there hasn't been a landing on the White House lawn is because that is restricted air space. Our reaction to intruders over populated areas is to launch jet interceptors that harass the invading objects. Hardly a friendly, welcoming gesture. The inconsistency with which UFOs are seen, or not seen, on radar could simply be a result of their propulsion system. Plasma physics for example could affect the radar signature. This could also prevent a sonic boom. Ultimately, we just can't predict the motivations of a visiting ET civilization. It's purely speculation. I see no reason for such speculation to lead one to assume that the ETH is unlikely.







Many countries might not know for sure what other countries have learned. To be the first to stick your neck out could compromise national security. One can't tell ones friends without telling ones enemies. Additionally, the disclosure of such sensitive information could infuriate other countries not willing to disclose. This could create a pretty sticky situation. If one country, such as the U.S., finds the subject too sensitive to disclose, they would surely go to great lengths to silence other countries as well.

When the U-2 spy plane was used to spy on the Soviet Union, the Soviets could track the planes on radar, but couldn't shoot them down. They protested very quietly to the U.S. The Soviet people could not be told because that would admit that nothing could be done. The U.S. public couldn't be told either, because we were violating international law. Two countries don't have to "get along" to collaborate on keeping something secret.

Why would they feel compelled to adhere to our laws about restricted air space? Aren't military bases and nuclear weapons facilities restricted?


Or it could be magic. Or....

And I see no reason to assume the ETH is the most likely (even if you personally aren't saying that, others believe it).



Nor do the aliens have to "get along" with any government in order to stay hidden, regardless of their agenda.

They wouldn't know our laws, but the jet interceptors would be an obvious act of aggression that would dissuade any friendly visitors from attempting to land.




There is nothing magical about UFOs. You seem to be implying that people that believe in UFOs also believe in magic. Another disgusting and grossly inaccurate stereotype. Just for the record, I don't beleive in Ghosts, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, or even God for that matter, and I certainly don't believe in "magic." Don't confuse UFOs with the supernatural.




But atmospheric phenomena is more likely? We're not talking about ambiguous lights in the sky here. It is clear that the objects are intelligently controlled by non-human entities. Draw whatever conclusion you want to that as far as the origin goes. The ETH makes a lot more sense than time travelers or hollow Earth inhabitants, or intelligent fish as was suggested a few days ago. You'll have a hard time finding a scientist nowadays that will tell you life on other planets isn't tremendously likely if not almost definite. Considering that the average age of Sun-like stars in the habitable zone of the Milky Way galaxy is a BILLION years older than the Sun, we should expect such visitation. I have never seen a sufficient argument prohibiting such visitation.

Skeptics argue that distances are too vast, and that the Voyager probe would take 70,000 years to reach the nearest star. Sure, but it also has no propulsion system. It's coasting. That's like throwing a bottle into the Atlantic ocean to determine how long it would take to get to Europe from New Jersey. Others argue, "it would take 4 years just to reach the nearest star." Not necessarily true. Einstein stated that the closer one gets to the speed of light, the more time slows down relative to the occupants. Thus, at 99.99% the speed of light, one could travel 39 light years in 6 months pilot time. At 1-G acceleration it would take just one year to approach the speed of light. And why stop there? Tests have shown that a trained pilot can perform a tracking task while being accelerated at 14-G's for two minutes. That's an acceleration of 294 mph per second. Starting at rest, the pilot would be traveling 294 mph in the first second, 2,940 mph after 10 seconds, and more than 30,000 mph after two minutes. I'm not saying such velocities would be a safe way of commuting, I'm only pointing out that constant velocities can add up rather quickly.

Of course, carrying enough fuel for the voyage might be a problem, but who is to say all the fuel would be carried from the start? If you're driving from New York to Los Angelos you don't try to make the trip on one tank of gas. You stop every now and then to refuel. Additionally, it wouldn't necessarily be practical to travel directly to Earth and directly back. Perhaps they have settlements in between. Interstellar travel is not by any means science fiction, despite what you may have heard. Usually these arguments are made by individuals that haven't done any research into the possibility of interstellar travel, they merely gawk at the mind boggling numbers and distances. Even many scholarly professors and astronomers are ignorant to the wealth of information available.



I don't see what you're trying to say. We have no reason to believe they would even want formal contact on a large scale considering our violent, destructive ways. It is foolish to assume a visiting civilization would simply land en masse to greet everyone on Earth at once. And again, even if they had landed in great numbers and spoken to World leaders (if such communication was even possible), would the world leaders tell us? Probably not. It does appear that they have landed quite frequently to mingle with the locals, but again, without official disclosure these remain just stories to most.

Fear of Panic? No, people would instead debate. Forums like this would rather say "interact or no?" rather than "are UFOs real?".

umm...but UFOs are real
and yeah, fear of mass hysteria or panic is just an excuse people use.

Fear of panic has been used as an excuse by the government.

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Space-Life Report Could Be Shock

The discovery of intelligent space beings could have a severe effect on the public, according to a research report released by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. The report warned that America should prepare to meet the psychological impact of such a revelation.

The 190-page report was the result of a $96,000 one-year study conducted by the Brookings Institution for NASA's long-range study committee.

Public realization that intelligent beings live on other planets could bring about profound changes, or even the collapse of our civilization, the research report stated.

"Societies sure of their own place have disintegrated when confronted by a superior society," said the NASA report. "Others have survived even though changed. Clearly, the better we can come to understand the factors involved in responding to such crises the better prepared we may be."

http://www.nicap.org/brookingsdir.htm
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But, they are real and have been visually identified as saucer-shaped flying machines, amongst other shapes.

Good point.

Well, I'm a bit of an amateur astronomer, and there are many, many other amateur astronomers far more proficient than I, but I've yet to hear about any valid reports of corroborated (one can go and see it with their own telescope) alien activity. So, if ET is indeed 'out there' kind of stands to reason that he's being fairly covert I'd say.



Certainly speculation regarding the motives of ET is assumptive. Frankly, all of this speculation is pretty assumptive.

Remember, when one puts forth a hypothesis it's of primary importance to subject one's hypothesis to rigorous critique and onging attempts at falsification (this applies to all hypotheses). Just collecting this and that in support of the hypothesis is not sufficient, one has to look for that which refutes the hypothesis as well. While the ETH is indeed a good hypothesis (in that it logically explains the known evidence) it is by no means a 'slam dunk', from a scientific viewpoint anyway.

It is perplexing to me that skeptical people of ET visitation would believe that time traveling humans from the future is as equal a possibility as ET visiting the Earth. Life on other worlds is not denied by science. It is merely unknown. Traveling backwards in time is absolutely denied by science. Something can not return before it has left.

I would like to add that it seems as if the subject is being mocked by the use of the hollow Earth inhabitants explanation.

And last but not least, BLOOP! I wait for the stunning conclusion.

I'm sorry I wasn't making myself clear enough....bad habit sometimes.

What I was trying to say is the typical line is there's a government coverup, correct? For there to be a successful coverup, both sides (in this case, the government(s) and ET) have to agree to keep the secret, correct? If one side doesn't agree, then there's no chance for a coverup.

While I admit it's speculation on ET's motives, I see no reason they should uphold the coverup. A "what's in it for them?" kind of scenario.

As for formal contact, we don't need it to know they exist. Instead of landing on the White House lawn, and insisting on giving a speech to the General Assembly of the United Nations, they could just hover over a World Cup game long enough for all 80,000 people in attendance to see the craft, as well as television cameras, then they could zoom off.

Instead, they tease us by dashing around planes and landing in out of the way spots, making contact with "unofficial" people. IMO, that's strong evidence against their existence.

Aside to Hamlyn: I haven't forgotten about our proposed logic debate. Life gets in the way sometimes, that's all. If you still want to proceed, feel free.

About 70,000 people witnessed a UFO doing an airshow for them in 1917.

The amazing thing about that sighting is that they were waiting in a field for the show to begin and it did.

It is. Untill the day that NASA, ESA, or someother space exploring agency says otherwise, we might be the only living thing in the universe. I sure dont think soo, I even believe that there is intelligent star traveling creatures out there. Do I have any evidence of this to be the case, no I dont. No matter what anyone says here, noone on the planet does.

So yes, at this time, the still unidentified UFOs could be anything, and they could be nothing.

Nothing???

Let me get this right! You are implying that incidents such as this, never happened?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoBL_Wpx7Fo

For the record for all to read:

Are you implying that no craft, which exhibited extraordinary maneuvering capabilites that exclude any aircraft before zooming off at hypersonic speeds, was ever involved in the UFO case files in quesition?

Just for the record, you understand.

With over 110,000 reports on record, I would say that you are incorrect. To further add, some of the UFO reports in Project Bluebook are those of astronomers.

Skyeagle its not that you havent tryed like no tomorrow,but some people on this palnet think way too much about what they havent seen ,I.E. UFO`s and the other nonprefected ideas of the mind. You always post on the reports of others and the skeptics,debunkers ect non-belivers just line up to take a wack at you. Thats sad in its self.Because your post are all in line with a belief system that is right for you and many others,myself one I belive in intelligent life off this rock as do many others.I guess what Im saying in Texas terms is if you throw a B,B,Q there will always be someone that is there that only like pizza.and B,B,Q, dosnt exsist.Even though they may of never tryed it to see it`s great. This is mans delima too belive it they must first see it. I say to see it one must first Belive it. we are creatures of a wonderful belief system. Example-A is just deep in ones own thought Keep those post comeing Skyeagle Im going to get my camera ready for that Exibit-A See Ya.

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