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UFO believers would ask about Roswell, UFO sightings and alien abductions. The problem I have with the whole Roswell/government conspiracy thing is that there is not one piece of physical evidence.
We went over the physical evidence piece. We have physical evidence – landing trace cases with residue – but we don’t have the piece of a flying saucer. We have enough evidence to establish the presence of a craft to corroborate witness testimony, but we do not have the proof of origin. So again, in such an instance we are left with two possibilities: 1. Military, or 2. Extraterrestrial.
As far as the Roswell event goes, all we really have is testimony. Loads of it. 600+ according Carey and Schmitt in Witness to Roswell. As a matter of fact, to my knowledge, the only individual that handled the debris that didn’t say it was out of this world (Sheridan Cavitt) stated that the debris would fit easily into the trunk of a car. He used this explanation to conform to the original weather balloon cover story. Little did he know it was “really” a Mogul balloon, which wouldn’t have fit into the trunk of a car. In addition, we know for a fact it wasn’t Mogul either. The launch was cancelled, not to mention the fact that Mogul is mathematically incompatible with the extent of the reported debris field. See here:
http://www.cufos.org/ros4.html We know for a fact that the government still hasn’t been telling us what really happened. The only alternative I find reasonable is Nick Redfern’s hypothesis that a post-WW2 program used the deformed and crippled bodies of adults and children in biological and nuclear experiments. Even so, Redfern’s hypothesis falls short in several areas.
So where is the piece of the saucer? I don’t even think that’s a relevant question. It is by no means foolish to assume the government is withholding the debris. It should be intuitively obvious that if such debris recovered, this would be the case. For instance, we know for a fact that the U.S. government finds the subject of UFOs to be Top Secret. We know this through official government documents. The government would go to tremendous lengths to keep any debris from being collected and distributed by civilians. To argue that the lack of physical proof – the piece of the Roswell saucer – is evidence that the event never took place as reported is ignorant at best.
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The government has never been able to keep any kinds of secrets, much less over a period of 40 years.
A common myth. First things first: Established military figures
are talking, and have been talking. So just what do you expect? The information is just as sensitive today as it was then, unlike most other Top Secret matters that dwindle in importance until their eventual disclosure. The reasons for secrecy are just as applicable today as they were 60 years ago.
Secondly, secrets can be kept, have been kept and are still being kept.
The Eisenhower library still had 300,000 pages of classified material a few years ago. Eisenhower left office in January of 1961. Obviously, those secrets have been kept. Some 60,000 people were involved in the Manhattan Project. When Harry Truman was Vice President of the United States even he didn’t have a need-to-know about the atomic bomb program. It wasn’t until President Roosevelt died that Truman was briefed on the matter, and, a couple of months later, had to decide whether to use it on Japan.
During WWII, the German communications code was broken. Obviously, they couldn’t tell anybody, because if the Germans thought their code was unbreakable, they would continue to use it. There was a group of 12,000 people at Betchley Park in England whose job it was to intercept German military communications and decode the messages, translate them and pass them on very carefully to the very few people within the government with a need-to-know. This information was not released after the war because other countries were still using the same cryptography devices and techniques that the Germans had uses. Word of this development didn’t come out for 25 years.
Then there is also the Naval Research Laboratory’s Corona spy satellite. It obtained more information about the placement and nature of Russian military systems than all the U-2 flights. The first mention of the satellite didn’t come about until 1995 during the NRL’s 75th anniversary -- 35 years later. Similarly, the design, development and operation of seven Poppy satellites used by the NRO to monitor Soviet ships at sea, launched between 1962 and 1971, wasn’t known to the public until 2005. Even the existence of the NRO was classified for years.
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Regarding abductions, none of the people involved have been shown to have any signs of tampering, which would be readily apparent by MRI.
Aside from the many corroborating accounts of particular details never released to the public – the probability of which strongly militates against a cultural or psychological explanations – abductees are also physically missing from their environment during abduction scenarios. Independent confirmation of their absence; police are called, people search for the abductees, parents are distraught etc.
Many abductees have hysterectomies. In some cases, surgeons performing the hysterectomy have commented on the position of their ovaries, which seemed “pushed” to one side or “pressed” towards their fallopian tubes. Some women reported anomalous ovarian scarring, which is consistent with the theory that the aliens sometimes take the eggs directly from the ovaries. Others have reported vaginal scarring for which neither they or their gynecologist could account for, while others have complained of aching, swelling and general gynecological pain.
Dr. David M. Jacobs refers to a specific case of an anomalous organic implant that disappeared mysterious between visits.
One morning in March 1987, she awoke with gynecological pain so severe that she was having trouble sitting and she told me that she was now certain the aliens had put an “implant” in her. … I immediately took her to a gynecologist, Dr. Daniel Treller, who graciously agreed to see her on an emergency basis.
Treller’s examination confirmed that Melissa’s pelvic area was very tender and he ordered an ultrasound. The ultrasound team quickly found an anomaly. At the right side of her right ovary, but not touching it, was a mass of some sort. It was small, but looked “organic,” and it was not supposed to be there. The bewildered ultrasound team summoned Treller, who was equally baffled. None of them had ever seen anything quite like this before. Suspecting an unusual ectopic pregnancy, Treller ordered a blood test to determin if Melissa was, in fact, pregnant. It was negative. (Jacobs, 1998)
Melissa stubbornly refused to have it removed during that particular session. Treller suggested she at least come back in a week to see if the mass had changed or grown at all. She refused to go back for some time, but Jacobs finally convinced her to go a month later for a second ultrasound, but the mass was gone. Melissa was very relieved that she didn’t have to face having the mass removed.
Jacobs went on to site another case years later that was eerily similar. The abductee was 60-year old Lydia Goldman. Lydia awoke one morning with the feeling that she was pregnant, which was impossible not just because of her age, and the fact that she had not engaged in sexual activity, but because she had undergone a total hysterectomy many years before. Despite these facts, her breasts began to swell, she retained water, and had something akin to morning sickness which she recognized as the same symptoms she had when she had been pregnant with her children. She also happened to feel what she interpreted as something moving around inside her. Lydia made an appointment with her gynecologist, but a few days before her appointment she woke up and “knew” that everything was back to normal. All her symptoms had disappeared.
Jacobs goes on to hypothesize that the aliens might have withdrawn a potential fetus from Lydia’s body when they became aware of her intentions to get medical attention. This was not possible in the first case, because Melissa had been rushed to the hospital immediately that morning upon Jacobs recommendation. Several other abductees have even scheduled abortions only to find an empty uterus during the actual procedure. The hypothesis is a controversial one, though. We do not know how they could achieve such feats, but it is theoretically possible. Even with our primitive technology we are able to associate particular thoughts and emotions to various locations of the human brain. Perhaps a similar but more refined method is used to tap into more detail exactly what the host is thinking or feeling. However, there is no proof that this is the case.
Implants are a form of physical evidence often associated with the phenomenon, but with less than compelling results. The real ones, it would seem, are removed in much the same way as the apparent fetuses of the previous accounts. Alien implants are highly controversial and there is no “implant” on record that has been removed, to my knowledge, which has been found to be extraterrestrial in origin after laboratory testing. However, abductees suffer from lifelong nasal problems, bloody noses, sinus congestion, diminished hearing, tinnitus, and ear bleeding – which all happen to coincide with the locations in which they report devices were implanted during their hypnotic recall of abduction events. The associated life-long medical problems, although not the implants themselves, are clearly spelled out on the abductees medical records.
The alien abduction phenomenon is far too broad and controversial to sufficiently cover here. The bottome line is, no psychological explanation has ever adequately explained the phenomenon in question. Whatever the cause, no one has the definitive answer at the moment. Anyone that claims the phenomenon is adequately explained is either lying, ignorant or both. Sleep paralysis, for instance, has proven to be wholly inadequate as a blanket explanation. Even if every case of bedtime abduction did turn out to be sleep paralysis, this would still only account for about a third of the cases reported.
Referring to an article in the New York Times on the abduction phenomenon and sleep paralysis, Budd Hopkins argued:
During the first two decades of research when the very concept of a UFO abduction was formed, all of the central cases involved people who were outside their homes when they were taken. None were lying paralyzed and half asleep in their bedrooms. Instead they were driving automobiles, fishing, hunting, making their rounds as police officers, even, in one famous case, driving a tractor on a farm. So where do nighttime sleep paralysis experiences come into the data pool of these crucially important first decades of abduction research? Nowhere. There are none.
Source: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/junk_sc..._paralysis.html
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Interstellar space travel is much more difficult than indicated in movies and television series, such as Star Trek and Star Wars and the like.
Traveling near the speed of light is impractical for biological organisms. Collisions with particles even the size of a grain of sand would be catastrophic. An even worse problem is that the light from ordinary stars would be blue shifted all the way to the gamma end of the spectrum when traveling near the speed of light. This problem alone might restrict the speed of space travel to a small fraction of the speed of light.
These gamma rays would destroy all biological life, even if it were in suspended animation, if that were possible. In essence, these problems would restrict the speed of travel to well below the speed of light.
For all we know it could have taken them generations to get here, stopping here and there along the way and setting up outposts. They may no longer even have a home planet. Considering that the average age of Sun-like stars in the habitable zone of the Milky Way Galaxy is a BILLION years older than the Sun, there is a pretty good chance that if any advanced civilization extists on a planet near one of these stars, that we couldn’t even begin to imagine what they might be capable of, technologically. Look how far we’ve come in just 100 years! Imagine a civilization with a billion-year head start! To put the number into perspective, if you were to count to a billion in one second intervals it would take you over 30 years.
I think it is relevant at this stage to point out the many false arguments of arrogant scientists in the past.
Dr. Simon Newcomb in October, 1903, published an article "scientifically" proving that the only way man would ever fly would be with the help of a balloon -- just two months before the Wright Brothers' first flight.
Dr. Bickerton in the 1920's proved "scientifically" that it would be impossible to provide anything with sufficient energy to place it in orbit around the earth.
Dr. Campbell, at the U. of W. Ontario, proved "scientifically" in 1941 that the required initial launch weight of a chemical rocket able to take a man to the moon and back would be only 300,000,000 times higher than what was actually required as demonstrated less than 30 years later by the Apollo Program. Campbell made such pseudoscientific assumptions as that the rocket would have only one stage, would be limited to 1G acceleration, would be launched vertically, and would require a retrorocket to slow it down before return to earth. The NASA aerospace engineers and applied scientists of course used a multistage rocket, exposed the astronauts to several Gs, launched to the East from near the equator, and took advantage of the moon's gravity to provide some of the energy and the earth's atmosphere to slow down the rocket upon return. Making wrong assumptions usually leads to false conclusions.
Quote from: http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/sfnyt.html
Skeptics argue that distances are too vast, and that the Voyager probe would take 70,000 years to reach the nearest star. Sure, but it also has no propulsion system. It's coasting. That's like throwing a bottle into the Atlantic Ocean to determine how long it would take to get to Europe from New Jersey. Others argue, "it would take 4 years just to reach the nearest star." Not necessarily true. Einstein stated that the closer one gets to the speed of light, the more time slows down relative to the occupants. Thus, at 99.99% the speed of light, one could travel 39 light years in 6 months pilot time. At 1-G acceleration it would take just one year to approach the speed of light. And why stop there? Tests have shown that a trained pilot can perform a tracking task while being accelerated at 14-G's for two minutes. That's an acceleration of 294 mph per second. Starting at rest, the pilot would be traveling 294 mph in the first second, 2,940 mph after 10 seconds, and more than 30,000 mph after two minutes.
Of course, carrying enough fuel for the voyage might be a problem, but who is to say all the fuel would be carried from the start? If you're driving from New York to Los Angelos you don't try to make the trip on one tank of gas. You stop every now and then to refuel. Cosmic freeloading also helps. Voyager might seem to be traveling extremely fast, but much of that is with the help of gravity assists, not rocket propulsion. Additionally, it wouldn't necessarily be practical to travel directly to Earth and directly back. Perhaps they have settlements in between. Interstellar travel is not by any means purely science fiction, despite what you may have heard. Usually, individuals that haven’t done any research in the possibility of interstellar travel are the ones that make these arguments. They merely gawk at the mind-boggling numbers and distances. Even many scholarly professors and astronomers are ignorant to the wealth of information available. Stanton Friedman once noted, “I have had mature scientists suggest it would take 100 or 1,000 years [to approach the speed of light at 1-G acceleration].” To be fair, this was probably off the top of their heads.
A common argument is that at velocities close to the speed of light, one’s mass increases as well, so it would take more energy to keep accelerating. But why keep accelerating? Most of our aircraft, boats and cars just accelerate until they get to a comfortable cruise velocity and throttle down to coast at a reasonable speed. Accelerating at this point just wastes huge amounts of energy for no real benefit.
Two of the greatest physicists of all-time, Lord Rutherford, who explored many atomic nuclei, and Albert Einstein, who determined that E=MC^2, didn’t even think that anything useful could or would be done with the energy of the nucleus. Others used their research to make revolutionary new technologies. By splitting the nucleus of an atom we had come across a radical new source of energy; far more than what chemical rockets are capable of. Perhaps if and when we can dig into the quarks that make up protons and neutrons we will discover an even more powerful source of energy.
I could go on, but at this point I will refer you to an article by Stanton Friedman entitled “UFO Propulsion Systems,” which might be of use:
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A most optimistic estimate for the number of intelligent civilizations in our galaxy is 150. This would mean that each intelligent civilization would be separated by an average of 2,000 light years. Such vast distances make contact unlikely and finding other advanced civilizations improbable. If these civilizations exist, they will not detect our radio signals for another 1900 years.
How will they even know we are here?
With the necessary equipment, ET astronomers could have detected the presence of life on Earth billions of years ago. The Terrestrial Planet Finder should be launched in the next few years, and then even we will have the opportunity to locate possible Earth-like worlds. They don’t have to leave their planet to know where to look.
Another potential form of exploration that is mathematically the most efficient is with the use of Von Neumann probes (named after John Von Neumann, who established the mathematical laws of self-replicating systems). These probes would land at a given destination and use the resources available to make replications of themselves. These replicated probes would then scatter out to new destinations and continue the process. Eventually there would be trillions of Von Neumann probes expanding in all directions, increasing at a fraction of the speed of light. In this fashion, a galaxy 100,000 light years across could be completely analyzed in roughly a half million years! Considering, once again, that the average age of Sun-like stars in the habitable zone of the Milky Way Galaxy is a billion years older than the sun, a half million years is only .05% of the available time.