JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A former adult dancer knows that the last thing most people would think about in a strip club is God, but she's on a mission to change that.

Tina Puhl, who used to earn her living dancing in nightclubs, is back in the clubs trying to covert working strippers to a new life.
"After coming back to God... in the last year, He has laid it on my heart to come to these girls to minister to them "says Puhl

Now a Christian, she's going back into the very clubs where she used to dance.

"I've done it a few times in the last year," Puhl said. "In the last four to five months I've been real faithful and I go out every Saturday night."

She comes bearing gifts for the dancers -- usually beauty supplies with Christian literature mixed inside.

"I give it to the girls," Puhl said. "I tell them they're precious, they're the daughter of a King, and it has my phone number in it and I tell them, 'If there's anything I can do, to call me.'"

Puhl said the reactions of the dancers to her unusual missionary work varies.

"I've been cussed from one end to the other, and then others think it's great," Puhl told Channel 4's Scott Johnson.

Puhl said much of society casts these women aside, but God never will. "I don't remember Jesus ever discarding anybody," Puhl said.

News4Jax.com


I seen this on my local nes and thought it was interesting that the ex stripper goes back to the lions den so to seak to save souls.
Do you think she will suceed in a place such as a strip club or is she just wasting her time?
If you were a regular member of these clubs how would you feel about being approached in the club about God and your relationship with Him?
I am all for preaching Gods word but to go where the "sin" is being commited and trying to lure them away is not going to be easy to say the least.
I am betting they feel like she is intruding on "sins acre" and feel even more rightious about their right to be there, therefore they will not be willing to listen to what she has to say. What do you think? Should We go to the bars and strip clubs and try and get God's message across?
Always a pleasure

"Hope springs eternal in the human breast"




fullywired

I wonder how the club owners feel about her ministry in their club. They are just women trying to support their kids or put themselves though college. What can you say, it is good money.

She has not tried to stop them or suggest another way to live; that's great!

And she is doing what needs to be done.

I guess there are people who run back to their old ways thinking that since they didn't die or get injured someway that God must have put them in there and it's alright to party and strip and drink and fight and kill and mame. Just get a little stoned or a little drunk and go home and praise the Lord. Oh, but that date that I took advantage of got the message that God Loves Her from my own lips even. Hmmmm. . .

The message that comes out of that article is that she is directing the women to be Eve to some other profession.
The bible says that Eve was created as a helper for Adam.
When you think of that, think of what the strippers are doing?
They are one of many Eves that are helping that club.
Another Eve to the club is liquor, another the sounds, and another the atmosphere . . .
Being a stripper in a night club is competition for the prize of being the greatest Eve.

Passing out that literature may get the strippers to adjust their mental view and in the process of adaptation, a stripper may notice in her stripping a lonely Christian in the crowd . . .

And that's where God works; that is where he is needed.

No argument here I once read about a stripper who turned to God and she did go back to tell the others about God and when she did she said God gave her a vision of the true spirit of the people in the club and sheseen demons everywhere in the club. Not all were and those are the ones she ministered t and she done quite well in spreading God's word. We never know how we will be called but when we are we will know it and do everything we can to do what God wishes. It is difficult sometimes spreading god's word because we may fear rejection or ridicule and we have to pray for God to give us strengh. I think Tina here in the article is doing what God ask of her and she is doing her best to accomplish what God ask of her. I hope she suceeds and I admire her for doing what was asked of her without worry that she will be ridiculed for it .

if God really worked in mysterious ways , the reasons why women get into stripping wouldn't exist.

now that would be mysterious.

Women get into stripping because of the MoneY, there are plenty of other jobs and plenty of other women that support their familys without taking their clothes off for a living! It is a choice and NOthing more. We all have choices to make about our lives and if a women feels she needs to have a HiGher standerd of living and does not want to save and work hard for it then that is HER choice God has NOTHING to do with it at all!!!!
I know alot of single moms who work regular jobs and they provide for their children without stropping and in my opinion has self respect and dignity and will not give that up just to keep up with the Jones.
Women have soooooo many choices these days the only reason they get into stripping is for the quick money that does not require hard work and study.
And don't even try the "well you only feel this way because you don't have the ""equipment" to do the job because I am not egotistical but I am nice to look at and I would never degrate myself and strip for money. ( Of course unless its for my husband and thats free ).
Women today have the option of school and there are so many people willing to send you to school these days for a job or theres goverment and scholorships. I was told there are way tooo many scholorships that go unused every year and this is from several people who do this type of work (scholorships).
In the US today there are millions of jobs availible , Sure you may have to work hard or start at entry and work up but they are there so Stripping is nothing more than a personal choice and is not the only way to earn a living, that is bull! These women make a choice based on themselves and what they want not strip out of nessecity!!!!!
Always a pleasure

This.. annoys me in a way. I mean.. it's one thing to go and be nice to the girls.. but it's another to go there be nice to them (and they deserve it) then try to convert them. It's no better then the door to door converters...

Peddling your faith and trying to get people to convert doesn't *need* to happen at all.

Whats wrong with stripping ?
If i were better endowed & better looking i"d give it a go, probably earn better money
without coming home knackered everyday.
We"d have a new car, foreign holidays, nicer clothes.............all the material trappings, etc.
Yeah, i"d be a Chippendale!

Always a pleasure.

Of course they deserve to be treated nicely they are human after all. I may not agree with what they do but they certainly deserve to be treated politely. I thought some would disagree with her going to the club to minister but I have to admit I did not think about door to door converts in this senerio. Although I suppose it does fall into that catagory. Always a pleasure Silver Cougar

omgs you pinked my words... *twitches*

;D

I knew you would appreciate that .

Pink is the work of the devil!

If Angels REALLY looked like your avatar, i would become religious tomorrow.

I agree with you SC. I know a lot of women working two three jobs to support their kids, sad thing is the never get to see their kids. I am sad to say women don't make as much as men make if they can find one job that makes as much as two or three jobs I don't blame them for taking it.

I hate pink print too it make my eyes go buggy.

No pink is for the angels
Why thanks thats sweet
I am going to send you my pic and see if i can make you religious



Okay for you Darkwind and Silver Cougar I will limit my pink post, Isn't that sweet of me .
Women have choices Darkwind you know what I mean why strip when you could be and do soooo much more. It is not wrong to want more for these women who really need it woudn't you agree?
Always a pleasure guys

It BURNS US!! *snickers*

Heres the facts, for the most part we like living above the poverty line, strippers can usually make about 300$ a night depending how busy it is, fast food restaurants are always minimum wage until you get into the higher ranks so on an average night you make 64$ on an 8 hour shift doing fast food, and probably make that 300$ for mabey 4-5 hours of your time(keep in mind this is all before taxes and ect) so the grand total varying for the week is
fast food-7 nights a week at 8 hour shifts $448
stripper-3 nights stripping-900$....(all estimation)

Yes women do have the choice when they get a job, but when you look at the numbers...comon now, if I had the body and I felt confident enough...well I would defiantly be tempted...escpecally if I was a full time student....

But isn't that kinda saying you would do anything as long as the price is right, I don't mean to offend just asking? Do you find it morally wrong to strip for money just to live on a higher standard?
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I see nothing moraly wrong with skin and the stripping down to nakedness. It's our bodies, and if we wern't so sexualy repressed and hung up on these idiotic morals.. hald our issues would probaly go away.

uuummmm who told you that crap ? and do you know the rules to qualify?

you've never really known a stripper have you ??? I personally know 2. Both thank God don't do it anymore ,but getting them out of it was an almost impossible job. for most the money isn't that great. most are beaten to do it. most are addicts..

it isn't the glamarous life portrayed on Lifetime.

ps - the money can be good if you work in a reputable place . and many think they will do it for short time quick easy cash like for school. but many get caught and the reputable places where tips are good don't last long. they like to get fresh faces.

no . lol . I've never stripped , but a good friend of mine did and worked the circut till she finally got out and clean. She goes back to talk to friends still doing it or new girls , but doesn't ever talk down to them the way your looking down your rightous unjesuslike nose at --- didn't he hang out with call girls ?

Can I have your pic too please? I don't know if it will make me religious or not but I'm sure it might give me a religious experience just the same.

I see nothing wrong with nudity or stripping for my husband, But stripping and nudity becomes cheap and tawdry when you start involving money to achieve it. That's not being sexually repressed that's just class. Morals? Tell me Silver Cougar tell me something that you find immoral, Always a pleasure

My best friend has done stripping on the side to earn extra money (she works as a Marketing Manager normally). I don't find it morally wrong to be a stripper or be a prostitute. She on the other hand finds it morally wrong to be a prostitute.

Perhaps it is a manifestation of esteem/men issues - that is what I worry about with her. Also the danger aspects. She used to suffer panic attacks - so we joke that the stripping is 'exposure therapy'.

I personally would not do stripping or prostitute myself and I think it can be a manifestation of psychological issues in a woman but I don't think it is morally wrong. In the sense that I think rape, murder, thievery is morally wrong.

For the OP I think it is good the lady goes there - the girls probably like having someone to talk to who is sympathetic.

I find pink immoral


That's a sticky wicket and a slippery slope almost.

I feel we put to much taboos on our bodies. Like breasts. for peats sakes they are just boobs! Sacks of fatty tissue and milk ducts. Honestly, I don't see the sexual appeal of 'em. So why be all "omgs!! It's an exposed boob!!" ?

Imooral though changes from person to person. I do find murder and mindless violence immoral... but in the same token, I tend to joke about how violence solves everything... and how much I hate everyone and thing. *chuckles*

I hope that doesn't include me SC.

Okay, just to add to the subject, I also have no qualms with women stripping for money (I've dated two strippers and almost married one). But addressing the OP, I disagree with religion being mixed in with otherwise pleasurable entertainment. I would hate to walk into a strip club only to find that I will be preached to between lap dances (or worse, during).

EDIT: left out a word.

Everyone means just that! *snickers*

Fair enough.

It has it's beni's... I can't be called prejusice.. don't have to worry about gifts... you know things like that.

No need to explain. I understand and agree completely.

BTW, would you ever consider stripping for a well paying client, regardless of religious beliefs?

Just curious.

I don't have the body for it.... that and the line of work I'm getting into, that can end up with me possibly losing my license and or a fine. Someone can so construe it as a "happy ending" *chuckles*

That's a matter of opinion, but I won't beleaguer the point.



That, on the other hand, I can understand. And this brings us back to your observation about the stigmas regarding naked flesh. I find it ridiculous that someone can actually risk their career simply by posing nude or stripping (unless you were a nun or something like that).

Some jobs have no issue with it. Some will. And there are so many "don't do!" with what my career is.. that I'd rather not take the chance. Now if I had the body and wasn't getting into MT... I'd be considering it. The cash is good

I dont find anything morally wrong with it, the naked body is a thing we should be ashamed of , every body is diffrent, besides if "God" had wanted us to be ashamed of ourselves wouldnt he have given us fur, or not give us certain anatomic parts?

Well, if you're ever strapped for cash, give me a ring. I promise that it will be completely discrete, and it won't involve anything illegal. I'm well known to be somewhat of a big tipper.

ROFL I'm tellin' you.. do *NOT* have the body for it

Are you saying that you're ashamed of your body, or did I misread you?

I used to date a dancer who put herself though law school & paid for college in half the time it would take a normal student & because of it she came out ahead.... no pun intended.....

I know this is getting way off topic, BUT, lets just say everyone has different tastes.

And besides, I find intelligent women very attractive.

Not.. happy with it. We have fights and arguments all the time. I am ashamed how horrible I let it get though.. and paying for it dearly.




Oh now you are deffinatly climbin' up the wrong tree

Let's just say I know what I like.

While you do.. and I can't argue what you like and don't like. I can argue your impressions of me *smirks*

You are bright, witty, somewhat opinionated and have quite an interesting outlook on life. What I find curious is that someone like you would put so much emphasis on physical appearance. You, my friend, are an enigma.

Yes ma'am!

*smiles* Isn't that how felines work...

Touche.

I don't look down on them, I don't know them I am not that arrogant as to think I am any better than they are I just believe they have other choices, We ALWAYS have a choice And, Righteous? No I don't feel righteous at all nor am I , I think these Women Who strip are beautiful and can do anything they want so Why settle for stripping for old men looking for cheap women(most). They can be soooo much more and it may take longer to achieve their goal but at least they will. You said it yourself they get in to get through school or whatever and become stuck in it. I think they deserve much better lives than the stripper life, I do know some women who do this for a living and your so right it is not like lifetime TV I do know they don't enjoy stripping and at some time they stat to feel shame and regret and start feeling like they are less of a person because thats what the life does to the women. My aunt used to be a counselor and she had alot of women tell her this. If you think I am being righteous for wanting better for these poor souls who get so wrapped up in this life they begin to question their self Worth then by all means I am righteous.
Always a pleasure Lt ripley

no im not ashamed of my body

Sorry, but you do contradict yourself here. As I previously stated I have known women who stripped for a living and they were far from being the "poor souls" that you mentioned. Granted, there may be many cases where a woman regretted having to resort to such an occupation simply to make ends meet. But for the most part (at least in my experience) many women today realize that it's simply a job and nothing more. They have gone on after attaining their college degrees without any emotional trauma whatsoever.

Okay. It was a typo then.