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Cronus
ok.. you just provided a link but nothing to back it up.. you weren't asking for opinions.. didn't make a statement.. nothing.. and to make it worse, the link is asking for a username and password and it doesn't look like that site's got anything to do with ET's, and the title of this thread is an artistic title, knowing this is the ET side of U-M.. Please refrain from being this much off topic..
louie
I think the op may be refering to the story that NASA is beaming the beatles song all across the universe into space. its aimed somewhere in the universe an will take many years to get there.
found the link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7221667.stm
Cronus
now that makes a lot more senes thanks, though I'd rather see us earthlings sending some real rock n roll into space for our alien friends, something along the tunes of W.A.S.P or Great White?
Ourmoonlitsun
QUOTE (Cronus @ Feb 9 2008, 08:48 PM) *
now that makes a lot more senes thanks, though I'd rather see us earthlings sending some real rock n roll into space for our alien friends, something along the tunes of W.A.S.P or Great White?

Yeah, because The Beatles weren't prominent at all in the evolution of rock music rolleyes.gif
Cronus
haha, hey guys check this song out, Alien Nation by Scorpions, let me see if I can find it on youtube..

This would be a perfect song to send out to space haha, check it out

song video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHognOnGhak

and here are the lyrics

--
In the heat of the violence
The night's exploding everywhere
When hate pulls the trigger
The devil comes to take his share
In the garden of Eden
The time is running out so fast
Into the heart of the demon
With no escape our die is cast

In the city of angels
Death is just a moment away
In the city of angels
Your future won't see the light of the day

Beware of the alien nation
Beware of the truth that they seek
They pray for eternal salvation
They pray for your soul to keep

On the eve of destruction
A reign of terror rules the street
When the heads start rolling
The devil comes to let it bleed

In the city of angels
Death is just a moment away
In the city of angels
Your future won't see the light of the day

Walk on past the alien nation
Walk on to the end of your reach
No fear of the alien nation
No fear of the hatred they preach

Don't run, there's no place to hide
Today or tomorrow it will get you
Don't move, the knife is right at your throat
And whatever you do, there's no way out
When the shroud comes down on this place
To bury us all alive
We'll know the time has come, to face the heat

Beware of the alien nation
Beware of the truth that they seek
They pray for eternal salvation
They pray for your soul to keep
Walk on past the alien nation
Walk on to the end of your reach
They pray for eternal damnation
They pray for your soul to keep

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Whaddya think ?
Rocket88
I think they should of sent some early Elvis stuff, which influenced EVERYONE that came after. thumbsup.gif

Hey Louie, hows the band doin ?
I got suspended from posting, but i"m back now. grin2.gif
cowspwn
nasa is completely right, lets respond to their hostile abductions with a loving song sent out to them... i say they should work on a project to start taking the aliens... talk about hippie work...
doesnt_matter
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They should've sent Where the Slime Lives by Morbid Angel. cool.gif
~ MacDDT ~
They should sent them something from "Alien Sex Fiend" I'm sure the aliens could identify with that band! ...(little grey creeps)
Cronus
rock dancing aliens rofl.gif

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REBEL
My guess is they already have Planet Earth's Greatest Hits on their own compilation CD even...



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~ MacDDT ~
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My guess is they already have Planet Earth's Greatest Hits on their own compilation CD even...



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Haha if I ever get a chance to steal a UFO we're going crop-touring Reb! lol
REBEL
Your on Mac, try & ripoff one with V8 & fuel injection if ya can then we'll be Rock'n & Roll'n ...



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QUOTE (REBEL @ Feb 9 2008, 07:52 PM) *
Your on Mac, try & ripoff one with V8 & fuel injection if ya can then we'll be Rock'n & Roll'n ...



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Haha, You got it man!!!
wiredbadger
Ha ha guys great stuff. sorry about no comment i thought it would link directly to the article. So no need to apologize about the this is the u-t and you sent a entertainment thing. Thanks to the person who found the correct link.

As for the topic as it is. I think maybe the beatles was a little too much in the wrong direction. considering the time and era they were made. war was prominent and well, it wouldn't really put a good name on us. The ramones would be better because , besides nonsensical songs , the aliens could always dig the beat. just my opinion. realistically, i think that sending a indecipherable wave of radio signal into space with the equally indecipherable sounds of rhythmic instruments would remain indecipherable if they had no music. otherwise they would hear the impact and guitar and the whole cacophony with no idea.
Maybe sounds of the earth, animal life and rhythmic to demonstrate a singular sentience is a good idea. i don't know.. this is interesting. realistically what do you guys think we should send out?
louie
QUOTE (Rocket88 @ Feb 10 2008, 02:25 AM) *
I think they should of sent some early Elvis stuff, which influenced EVERYONE that came after. thumbsup.gif

Hey Louie, hows the band doin ?
I got suspended from posting, but i"m back now. grin2.gif

hey Rocket. were doing ok. just got past over for a few summer festivals, wich is a bummer, we need the publicity,
what did you do to get suspended. who did you annoy.lol
louie
Cradle of Fish
What about Chuck Berry? He was a bigger influence than Elvis and the Beatles put together. I guess he was already on the voyager golden disc.
Rogerscott
My guess is that NASA chose something that was "politically" correct in that, of all the songs they could have chosen to send to "Polaris" they chose the one that would make them look good. And the words "Across the Universe" was the simplest choice. What they didn't mention was that they know very well it is a stupid gesture, since, it will only have meaning to 8 or 9 generations later. It is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of from NASA. What I want to know is, how much did this little exersize cost taxpayers? It is all PR. Why not send over this "beam" the formula for high-octane gasoline? At least, then, when the "advanced" civilzation that got it would be able to send back: "ha ha ha ha....fools!" Or, why not send a picture of Michalangelo's "Creation scene", and get the same answer? I'll tell you why: Catholics are not monitoring NASA for substantiating their belief system. But the savvy "boomers", who are not only the section of the population in touch with the internet, but their kids (most in touch with the internet), who have also taken up the Beatles as a kind of nostalgic "neat music", spend the most money. But also, it shows, just what segment of NASA is in control: people born mid-1950s to 1970s folk controlling the politics of NASA. But why send a "message" to Polaris? Why would anyone think that an appropriate target of information? As I recall, Polaris is a sun following the same orbit as our sun, just in front of it. Or what?
promKing
As I know John Lennon believed he was visited by aliens who gave him little metallic egg which he gave to Uri Geler just before he died. So it's obviously not a coincidence that the Beatles song gets to go into space to aliens.
Cronus
QUOTE (REBEL @ Feb 9 2008, 05:54 PM) *
My guess is they already have Planet Earth's Greatest Hits on their own compilation CD even...



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PLUS, they get elvis to play for them remember bro? haha they don't need no "across the universe" by the beatles grin2.gif
Atheist God
The Beatles in regards to genius were in the same league as guys like Beethoven for example... Very few artists in the 20th century could compare to the Beatles in regards to their musical achievements.
InHuman
We need to send out something hardcore to scare the aliens off if they are evil but cool enough so that the nice aliens will want to be our friends because we are tough and gritty. Dawg.
REBEL
QUOTE (InHuman @ Feb 11 2008, 04:17 PM) *
We need to send out something hardcore to scare the aliens off if they are evil but cool enough so that the nice aliens will want to be our friends because we are tough and gritty. Dawg.


Some Britney Spears should scare the living daylights out of em...Some Ozzy to inspire em.
wiredbadger
QUOTE (REBEL @ Feb 11 2008, 05:56 AM) *
Some Britney Spears should scare the living daylights out of em...Some Ozzy to inspire em.


HAHAHAHA...boxcar willy? or if we were to go ala vogon on them maybe captain and tennile , muskrat love?

and come to think of it, why not boney m , with night flight to Venus?
Cronus
so you all want to scare aliens off with music? I got the perfect son =D here.. (watch all of it lmao)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4F__jeH0A
(it's a Reggaeton Parody)
BiffSplitkins
QUOTE (wiredbadger @ Feb 11 2008, 02:34 AM) *
HAHAHAHA...boxcar willy? or if we were to go ala vogon on them maybe captain and tennile , muskrat love?

and come to think of it, why not boney m , with night flight to Venus?


Should have beamed the entire 'Kill Em' All' album by Metallica out there grin2.gif

Actually - The Beatles is a great choice. I have to agree with AthiestGod on that one.
I bet after his divorce trial McCartney wishes he could be beamed out to space.
Bill Hill

ramones!?! Do me a favour...

Anyway, it's simple.. the Beatles are the best within their field and so are NASA...
Put them together and send them both to space...
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (louie @ Feb 9 2008, 03:43 PM) *
I think the op may be refering to the story that NASA is beaming the beatles song all across the universe into space. its aimed somewhere in the universe an will take many years to get there.
found the link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7221667.stm

Thanks for the link to that story. "Across The Universe" is one of The Beatles' most beautiful songs. But, frankly, this seems to me to be a total waste of time, equipment, and tax dollars. The alleged tie-in is just b.s. hype. I cannot see its worth. OTOH, what it achieves whether purposely or not is that it is a fine way to pay tribute to the greatest rock'n'roll band that ever existed and those critics that show disrespect saying that other less-worthy bands are superior are just showing that they are ignorant.

Beatles forever!
InHuman
I nominate white stripes for the next run, since they are awesome'r.
wiredbadger
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Feb 12 2008, 05:04 AM) *
ramones!?! Do me a favour...

Anyway, it's simple.. the Beatles are the best within their field and so are NASA...
Put them together and send them both to space...


Well lets look at this objectively. The ramones are a punk band. They were representative of a class struggle and sociological stress for their time. Joey died from a disease that has no cure. They dressed and acted like their fans to some extent and claimed no real popularity, living for their music.(of note it should be remarked that joey lived with this disease through his career some songs he preformed represented his personal struggle, I want to live is one)

Now, the Beatles at one time thought they were god. They were idolized unrealistically by the fans. They thrived on popular press. Individually , Lennon died as a result of insanity from a madman with a gun. He and Yoko both tried to assimilate the population into a singular way of belief. Paul is a musician who clearly loves his craft, i give him that. But he is still identified unrealistically as a harbinger of sage messages. Which means he hasn't evolved from his state. If they were all to be all in music then there would be a time that they are no longer on top. As music evolves. Hendrix and David bowie are fine examples of what i mean.

if i was to send something to the aliens, i would want to demonstrate the real ,not fantasy. state of the earth. Social distress and the inequality of our races and the over prominent presence of caste systems would be paramount to demonstrate where we are. Spiritualism knows no boundaries and is misleading.
since the ramones have no song that is malevolent or mean in spirit. The ironic sense of what is , would be transfered with no fear.
compared oh, i don't know, helter skelter?

for what it is worth, ramones are the true punk band.they were around long and had their own style.this shows creativity, one of our human traits.
thanks for your post.
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Bill Hill

I guess everyone's gonna pick their favourite band..
But if it wasn't for the Beatles, there probably wouldn't be the Ramones.
Joey Ramone was a fan of The Beatles,The Who, among other bands... wiki
wiredbadger
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Feb 12 2008, 02:51 PM) *
I guess everyone's gonna pick their favourite band..
But if it wasn't for the Beatles, there probably wouldn't be the Ramones.
Joey Ramone was a fan of The Beatles,The Who, among other bands... wiki

true true, i have nothing against the Beatles. They were definitely what they are , you know?
i guess its just that really, if i was to send a song to the cosmos it would be a classical piece. if possible one from the era that they are recognizing at that time. say they are looking at the earth in 16 hundreds naturally, through their version of telescope. then, logically i would send something from that time.this would have a more profound statement. as they would first know that this is past, and the fact that we are giving advanced technology (radio) at a time when its not possible . would suggest much more about our species.
lindatea8888
Yes...the question is...why the Beatles???????? Although I am a product of Beatlemania, their music would not be my choice to send in space. How about a piece of classical music that was composed hundreds of years ago, but is still loved today throughout the world? A nonlyrical piece would circumvent the need to understand language, yet, through its rhythms, tones, expression give insight into what the human is like... A piece that displays range of emotion. One idea comes to mind...Holst's 'The planets" not because it deals with astronomy, but because in its different passages, it represents different emotions that we as humans have. Perhaps alien civilizations that pick up the transmission, can't put a name to the emotion, but they can sense our sweetness, aggressiveness, questioning nature or at the very least that we are more than stagnant creatures with no fluctuations in temperament. I am by no means saying that 'the planets ' is the best choice. It just popped into my head. I will stick with my idea that classical, without lyrics, might best represent the human spirit in a global sense.
I Am Will
QUOTE (wiredbadger @ Feb 12 2008, 01:28 PM) *
Now, the Beatles at one time thought they were god. They were idolized unrealistically by the fans. They thrived on popular press. Individually , Lennon died as a result of insanity from a madman with a gun. He and Yoko both tried to assimilate the population into a singular way of belief. Paul is a musician who clearly loves his craft, i give him that. But he is still identified unrealistically as a harbinger of sage messages. Which means he hasn't evolved from his state. If they were all to be all in music then there would be a time that they are no longer on top. As music evolves. Hendrix and David bowie are fine examples of what i mean.


bit harsh, dont think the beatles at all thought they were god. maybe at times a bit too outspoken

their comments bigger than jesus meant they were heard of by more people not that they were literally bigger than jesus.
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (lindatea8888 @ Feb 12 2008, 09:18 AM) *
Yes...the question is...why the Beatles???????? Although I am a product of Beatlemania, their music would not be my choice to send in space. How about a piece of classical music that was composed hundreds of years ago, but is still loved today throughout the world? A nonlyrical piece would circumvent the need to understand language, yet, through its rhythms, tones, expression give insight into what the human is like... A piece that displays range of emotion. One idea comes to mind...Holst's 'The planets" not because it deals with astronomy, but because in its different passages, it represents different emotions that we as humans have. Perhaps alien civilizations that pick up the transmission, can't put a name to the emotion, but they can sense our sweetness, aggressiveness, questioning nature or at the very least that we are more than stagnant creatures with no fluctuations in temperament. I am by no means saying that 'the planets ' is the best choice. It just popped into my head. I will stick with my idea that classical, without lyrics, might best represent the human spirit in a global sense.

While your reply makes sense, I think that a better choice than Holst's "The Planets" would be Antonin Dvorak's Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World" especially as played by the Cleveland Orchestra and, if you can find it, directed by George Szell (my version is directed by Cristoph von Dohnanyi).

When I was younger I would visit the Hayden Planetarium (now named ROSE CENTER FOR EARTH AND SPACE) in NYC and before we were ushered upstairs to the Planetarium we would wait in a darkened room where the ceiling was a representation of our universe with softly-lit planets and moons orbitng overhead. In the background they would have Dvorak's beautiful music playing. It was melodic, harmonious and created the right atmosphere to give the illusion that you were not in that room but out in space being able to see all.

Holst's Planets are not melodic or harmonious across the board as Dvorak's is.
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (I Am Will @ Feb 12 2008, 09:19 AM) *
bit harsh, dont think the beatles at all thought they were god. maybe at times a bit too outspoken

their comments bigger than jesus meant they were heard of by more people not that they were literally bigger than jesus.

...and real where jesus is a legend with no historical evidence to prove his reality. The music of the Beatles is the equivalent of musical nirvana. Their music provided happiness where jesus provides war and ill feeling.

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