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spiritualsan
Hi im new to the site found it last night and am really excited about meeting like minded people, i love chatting about the if's, why's and what's, im curious!

I would like to ask for other's thoughts on the moon affecting our moods, because i have been studying myself and the changes of the moon for a while now, and i completely change my outlook at certain phases of the moon! everyone says that people go weird at full moon, in fact at full moon im very happy, its the last quarter before full moon that i go weird, im 38 at at this stage i am selfish and horrible to be around!

is there anyone else out there that could, understand this, or have any thought's on the matter?

spirit***
Nik Xues
body 75% water
tides affected by moon's gravity
ergo mood swings caused by similar effect.

their are 13 moons in a year [~28 days=1 lunar cycle]
menstration also seems to be affected by this. [once a month hmm?]
muddpuppy
QUOTE (Nik Xues @ Feb 10 2008, 06:59 PM) *
body 75% water
tides affected by moon's gravity
ergo mood swings caused by similar effect.

their are 13 moons in a year [~28 days=1 lunar cycle]
menstration also seems to be affected by this. [once a month hmm?]

YES the moon definately affects people! Some more than others, but I, like you, get an excited and happy feeling during a Full moon. Nik Xues does have a point bout our bodies being made mostly of water and the moon's gravity affects us. Try researching a bit on this subject is my advice to you.
P.S. Nice pic, was it taken during a full moon? lol j/k
P.P.S. as always i express only my opinion, for I am no scientist and have no evidence.
spiritualsan
QUOTE (muddpuppy @ Feb 11 2008, 08:31 PM) *
YES the moon definately affects people! Some more than others, but I, like you, get an excited and happy feeling during a Full moon. Nik Xues does have a point bout our bodies being made mostly of water and the moon's gravity affects us. Try researching a bit on this subject is my advice to you.
P.S. Nice pic, was it taken during a full moon? lol j/k
P.P.S. as always i express only my opinion, for I am no scientist and have no evidence.


thank you for your reply! i definately will study it more!
not sure about the when pic was taken, but probably not full moon or i would be smiling, thanks anyway!
RileySmiley
QUOTE (Nik Xues @ Feb 10 2008, 07:59 PM) *
body 75% water
tides affected by moon's gravity
ergo mood swings caused by similar effect.

their are 13 moons in a year [~28 days=1 lunar cycle]
menstration also seems to be affected by this. [once a month hmm?]


It's true, I feel anxious during full moons, and hyperactive.
It only makes sense that we are effected by gravity, just like oceanic tides.
Nucular
QUOTE (Nik Xues @ Feb 10 2008, 06:59 PM) *
body 75% water
tides affected by moon's gravity
ergo mood swings caused by similar effect.

their are 13 moons in a year [~28 days=1 lunar cycle]
menstration also seems to be affected by this. [once a month hmm?]

Gravity does not solely act upon water, but upon all matter (the Earth also has land tides and atmospheric tides, both less noticable). The reason the water tides happen and are so pronounced is that it's a big load of matter, freely sloshing in liquid form. The effect of the moon's gravity on the human body is miniscule. The water in a human body is locked up mostly within cells, and is not freely sloshing. Even if none of these things were so, there is no reason water changes in the body would cause mood swings.

There is no demonstrated effect of lunar phases on menstruation, and the 'full moon madness' has also been shown to be a myth.

However, since menstruation does last approximately a lunar month, women who experience the menstrual cycle may find their mood changes fairly regularly over that period of time (though unsynchronised with the moon itself).

Just sayin' original.gif
Nik Xues
wouldnt the water trying to freely slosh cause the mood swing due to the minute stress. it would be like that nagging itch you cant scratch and its causing you to be irratable.
Nucular
QUOTE (Nik Xues @ Feb 12 2008, 06:36 PM) *
wouldnt the water trying to freely slosh cause the mood swing due to the minute stress. it would be like that nagging itch you cant scratch and its causing you to be irratable.

I like the idea - but no, for the same reason you don't get tides in a glass of water if you watch it all day - the gravitational effect of the moon on such tiny amounts of a substance are immeasurable. Remember, there's nothing magical about water that makes gravity affect it more than other substances - it's simply that we see it the most in oceans because they're the largest freely-sloshing things around.

Of course, we don't have to start off with the theory - if there was a measurable effect going on which correlated with the position of the moon, then we could work backwards from that. But the fact is that there's no evidence of any kind to show this. The 'full moon madness' studies properly done show no effect - madness happens all the time, but when there's a full moon people will attribute such madness to that due to the superstition.

Anyway, the bottom line here is that the phases of the moon don't happen because bits of the moon are missing, or nearer or further away; they happen because of the amount of sunlight the moon is reflecting. It's purely an optical effect.
spiritualsan
QUOTE (Nucular @ Feb 12 2008, 08:26 PM) *
I like the idea - but no, for the same reason you don't get tides in a glass of water if you watch it all day - the gravitational effect of the moon on such tiny amounts of a substance are immeasurable. Remember, there's nothing magical about water that makes gravity affect it more than other substances - it's simply that we see it the most in oceans because they're the largest freely-sloshing things around.

Of course, we don't have to start off with the theory - if there was a measurable effect going on which correlated with the position of the moon, then we could work backwards from that. But the fact is that there's no evidence of any kind to show this. The 'full moon madness' studies properly done show no effect - madness happens all the time, but when there's a full moon people will attribute such madness to that due to the superstition.

Anyway, the bottom line here is that the phases of the moon don't happen because bits of the moon are missing, or nearer or further away; they happen because of the amount of sunlight the moon is reflecting. It's purely an optical effect.


thank you for your comments on my post! although i must somewhat disagree with you, i am conducting an experiment of my own! the reason there is no proof is because, people dont act mad at full moon, although some do, i go crazy coming up to full moon, (2 days away, normally i would not disagree with anyone). no, i personally believe that the mood does affect our moods, but not in the same way and not at the same time, but if you studied yourself and the phases of the moon i think that you may find there is a connection, and all this to do with women only, is total rubbish, the moon rules our moods, whether female or male, whether strongly or slightly, we all need to see it for ourselfs!
at the moment i am writing my blog! im performing a diary like test on the web, and seeing if the moon has effect and the last month as come up with considerable coincidences that id like to air my thoughts on the matter!
kind regards
spirit x
the eternal me
i don't think the moon rules our moods.
but i know it has an effect on me. i get kinda mopey about 3 days before, and that last till it is full.
bleedingelite
Any effects that the moon might have on our moods would, I think, be wired into our animal instincts, or they might be subconsciously influenced by the very belief that the phases of the moon should be having an effect.
In the wild, a full moon means more light at night time, thus allowing predators to become more visible to their prey, which in turn might cause the prey to behave a little differently than on a darker night. That's just an opinion on my part, of course, as I have no scientific credentials. But the thought that we are more affected by its gravity during different phases is simple ignorance.

It reminds me of astrology buffs claiming that distant celestial bodies are affecting our atoms with gravity. Not only are the astrologers severely underestimating just how unimaginably far away the nearest of these bodies are, but they're also misunderstanding the effects of gravity on a subatomic level. Which is that it doesn't seem to have any.
analog_warrior
My science teacher told me how he would observe the students' activity change with the fases of the moon. The full moon would make them energetic because he increased preasure on the brain.
Nucular
QUOTE (analog_warrior @ Feb 19 2008, 08:42 PM) *
My science teacher told me how he would observe the students' activity change with the fases of the moon. The full moon would make them energetic because he increased preasure on the brain.

Hi analog_warrior - why not ask your science teacher what the science is behind his claim?

Don't accept gravity as an explanation - as I said above, the phases of the moon don't indicate gravitational change, as it's just the amount of sunlight the moon is reflecting at any given time, and also the moon's gravity has pretty much zero effect on us down here. He should really explain:

- Why the phases of the moon would affect brain pressure
- How increased brain pressure would make people 'more energetic'.

I'd be really interested to know his answer.

Probably also worth checking whether he was joking! Science teachers really shouldn't be saying things like that, they're supposed to know better.
spiritualsan
QUOTE (Nucular @ Feb 19 2008, 09:11 PM) *
Hi analog_warrior - why not ask your science teacher what the science is behind his claim?

Don't accept gravity as an explanation - as I said above, the phases of the moon don't indicate gravitational change, as it's just the amount of sunlight the moon is reflecting at any given time, and also the moon's gravity has pretty much zero effect on us down here. He should really explain:

- Why the phases of the moon would affect brain pressure
- How increased brain pressure would make people 'more energetic'.

I'd be really interested to know his answer.

Probably also worth checking whether he was joking! Science teachers really shouldn't be saying things like that, they're supposed to know better.


i think there are people that study people and people that study books! the books will tell you one thing and the people the other! i prefer people
Lilly
If there's anything about the full moon that might have an affect upon human beings it's more likely (IMO) to be the increased light present during the night hours. I'm not aware of any studies that have ever looked into this hypothesis though.
analog_warrior
QUOTE (Nucular @ Feb 19 2008, 03:11 PM) *
Hi analog_warrior - why not ask your science teacher what the science is behind his claim?

Don't accept gravity as an explanation - as I said above, the phases of the moon don't indicate gravitational change, as it's just the amount of sunlight the moon is reflecting at any given time, and also the moon's gravity has pretty much zero effect on us down here. He should really explain:

- Why the phases of the moon would affect brain pressure
- How increased brain pressure would make people 'more energetic'.

I'd be really interested to know his answer.

Probably also worth checking whether he was joking! Science teachers really shouldn't be saying things like that, they're supposed to know better.

Dude, that was years ago 1500 miles away.
Nucular
QUOTE (analog_warrior @ Feb 21 2008, 08:11 PM) *
Dude, that was years ago 1500 miles away.

Ah. For some reason I thought you were talking about the other day.

I blame last night's lunar eclipse wink2.gif
Azaziel
I myself become more prone to violence as the moon gets closer to its fullest stage and as the moon wanes my violence goes with it.So yes i believe fullheartedly it has an effect on people.
Nucular
QUOTE (Azaziel @ Feb 21 2008, 11:21 PM) *
I myself become more prone to violence as the moon gets closer to its fullest stage and as the moon wanes my violence goes with it.So yes i believe fullheartedly it has an effect on people.

Yikes. Is that anything you think you might need to seek help for, Azaziel?
Blueguardian
Spiritualsan I recommend you have a look into ion effects and the effects they have on people. here's a link to get you started, hope its what your looking for. Full Moon Ion Effect
AeonsOld
Well - just observation but... I know a lot of doctors, nurses & police. They ALL say on a full moon it's nuts. Personally the new moon works best for me stress-wise.
spiritualsan
QUOTE (Blueguardian @ Feb 22 2008, 09:56 AM) *
Spiritualsan I recommend you have a look into ion effects and the effects they have on people. here's a link to get you started, hope its what your looking for. Full Moon Ion Effect


thank you very much for that, much appreciated.

spirit x
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