cpjason
Feb 13 2008, 01:10 AM
I would really be interested to see if a Quija board skeptic would go out and buy a board, and try to bring demons or evil spirits into their home. If you really don't believe in Quija boards I challenge you.
Go out and buy one. Use the board often and alone, and try to contact demons and other evil spirits. When you get one, ask it to perform tricks for you to prove it is real. Ask it to appear in your room, ask it to take control of your body, ask it to scare your family. Keep talking to it over a long period of time and be sure to ask it to stay with you forever, even after you stop using the board. Ask it when you will die. Ask it about GOD. Ask it to bring other demons into your home because you like demons so much you want to have lots of them around. Ask it to grant you immortality. Ask it to make you wealthy.
You have to do this believing that you are talking with someone, and keep an open mind. You may not believe that the board will work, but at least have an open enough mind to talk to whatever happens to contact you in a serious way. I see people saying that the Ouija is nothing but a game, but those people saying it never say that they have ever used the board more than a few times, usually when they were little kids. It's easy to be a skeptic and not believe in something if you have never researched the subject yourself personally.
Put your money where your mouth is, and let me know your results, or are you afraid?
AngelXVI
Feb 13 2008, 01:14 AM
QUOTE (cpjason @ Feb 12 2008, 08:10 PM)

I would really be interested to see if a Quija board skeptic would go out and buy a board, and try to bring demons or evil spirits into their home. If you really don't believe in Quija boards I challenge you.
Go out and buy one. Use the board often and alone, and try to contact demons and other evil spirits. When you get one, ask it to perform tricks for you to prove it is real. Ask it to appear in your room, ask it to take control of your body, ask it to scare your family. Keep talking to it over a long period of time and be sure to ask it to stay with you forever, even after you stop using the board. Ask it when you will die. Ask it about GOD. Ask it to bring other demons into your home because you like demons so much you want to have lots of them around. Ask it to grant you immortality. Ask it to make you wealthy.
You have to do this believing that you are talking with someone, and keep an open mind. You may not believe that the board will work, but at least have an open enough mind to talk to whatever happens to contact you in a serious way. I see people saying that the Ouija is nothing but a game, but those people saying it never say that they have ever used the board more than a few times, usually when they were little kids. It's easy to be a skeptic and not believe in something if you have never researched the subject yourself personally.
Put your money where your mouth is, and let me know your results, or are you afraid?
I think its a crazy suggestion... Even if you don't believe would someone put their family/children at risk just for a dare!!
Lady_Anvilabeel
Feb 13 2008, 01:16 AM
This comes across as flame baiting with the unknown to me

and it's 'Ouija'
SS79
Feb 13 2008, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (cpjason @ Feb 13 2008, 01:10 AM)

I would really be interested to see if a Quija board skeptic would go out and buy a board, and try to bring demons or evil spirits into their home. If you really don't believe in Quija boards I challenge you.
Go out and buy one. Use the board often and alone, and try to contact demons and other evil spirits. When you get one, ask it to perform tricks for you to prove it is real. Ask it to appear in your room, ask it to take control of your body, ask it to scare your family. Keep talking to it over a long period of time and be sure to ask it to stay with you forever, even after you stop using the board. Ask it when you will die. Ask it about GOD. Ask it to bring other demons into your home because you like demons so much you want to have lots of them around. Ask it to grant you immortality. Ask it to make you wealthy.
You have to do this believing that you are talking with someone, and keep an open mind. You may not believe that the board will work, but at least have an open enough mind to talk to whatever happens to contact you in a serious way. I see people saying that the Ouija is nothing but a game, but those people saying it never say that they have ever used the board more than a few times, usually when they were little kids. It's easy to be a skeptic and not believe in something if you have never researched the subject yourself personally.
Put your money where your mouth is, and let me know your results, or are you afraid?
Well this is a change asking the skeptics to put up or shut up
But I think your underestimating the amount who have used it with no affect . maybe you would have been better doing a poll .
In my opinion its all about belief . If someone believes they will get a response and truly believes it will be ghostly/ demonic they are likely to bring that into reality . by assiociating everything that happens therafter to be down to the board /ghosts/demons .
IN effect i think what you are proposing is dangerous . Not becaue your asking people to use the board itself . the board is made of card I could use it too chop my carrots on. or to prop up my pillow at night with no ill effect . But you are asking people to open themselves up (not to a demon ) but to a possibility, within their minds that maybe something is there when maybe its there subconcious at work which IMO can be psychologically damaging to susceptible individuals . simply because theres a chance that their mindset will change. and not because they are suddenly haunted by demons/spirits or ghosts.
Just my opinion
SS79.
AngelXVI
Feb 13 2008, 01:33 AM
QUOTE (SS79 @ Feb 12 2008, 08:25 PM)

Well this is a change asking the skeptics to put up or shut up
But I think your underestimating the amount who have used it with no affect . maybe you would have been better doing a poll .
In my opinion its all about belief . If someone believes they will get a response and truly believes it will be ghostly/ demonic they are likely to bring that into reality . by assiociating everything that happens therafter to be down to the board /ghosts/demons .
IN effect i think what you are proposing is dangerous . Not becaue your asking people to use the board itself . the board is made of card I could use it too chop my carrots on. or to prop up my pillow at night with no ill effect . But you are asking people to open themselves up (not to a demon ) but to a possibility, within their minds that maybe something is there when really its there subconcious at work which IMO can be psychologically damaging to susceptible individuals . simply because theres a chance that their mindset will change. and not because they are suddenly haunted by demons/spirits or ghosts.
Just my opinion
SS79.
I agree with you that its just a object, like a gun for instance, if it gets in the wrong hands it can be dangerous... on the other hand, it could be your subconscious... then again, no one really knows, its the unknown and I would never put my child or family in jeopardy just for a thrill on a Ouija board.
SS79
Feb 13 2008, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (AngelXVI @ Feb 13 2008, 01:33 AM)

I agree with you that its just a object, like a gun for instance, if it gets in the wrong hands it can be dangerous... on the other hand, it could be your subconscious... then again, no one really knows, its the unknown and I would never put my child or family in jeopardy just for a thrill on a Ouija board.
True . I changed it from
really their subconcious to
maybe [/b]
LOL i understand what your saying though . I just think its highly likely 9 out of ten times it is the subconcious at work. the mind is a wonerful thing. IMO
Belle.
Feb 13 2008, 01:38 AM
Hmm I am skeptical about the supernatural - but there is NO way I would do this. I hate the idea of a ghost or something worse lingering around me - even if it didn't work I would probably interpret any noise in my home as being evidence that it did. I think a lot of it is the power of the mind......mine would create a haunting no doubt. There is just that tad of possibility, shadow of a doubt for me that it could be true.
I think most hauntings are just people fixated on the idea that they have a haunting.
RX-7
Feb 13 2008, 01:40 AM
hence one of the reasons why I'm not a skeptic anymore. Been there done that
AngelXVI
Feb 13 2008, 01:45 AM
QUOTE (SS79 @ Feb 12 2008, 08:38 PM)

True . I changed it from
really their subconcious to
maybe [/b]
LOL i understand what your saying though . I just think its highly likely 9 out of ten times it is the subconcious at work. the mind is a wonerful thing. IMO

Its the 1% that worries me...
TRPS-TECH1
Feb 13 2008, 01:46 AM
This is a different kind of topic . Although the skeptics and on believers are being called out , they will not except the challenge . Interesting !!!!
BUT , as for that being said , I would not hold this challenge to anyone , because I would never wish anything NEGATIVE on them . If it would allow only calm spirits , that would be different .
RX-7
Feb 13 2008, 02:02 AM
QUOTE (TRPS-TECH1 @ Feb 13 2008, 02:46 AM)

This is a different kind of topic . Although the skeptics and on believers are being called out , they will not except the challenge . Interesting !!!!
BUT , as for that being said , I would not hold this challenge to anyone , because I would never wish anything NEGATIVE on them . If it would allow only calm spirits , that would be different .
Well, from experience, a true skeptic doesn't believe in babble like this (can't really blame them, it's just a board!), and something like this is pretty much a joke to them so there would be no problems there. However, I doubt there are any true skeptics on here though. I always know a true skeptic when I see one
Guyver
Feb 13 2008, 02:34 AM
The skeptic would only be skeptical until unseen forces beyond their control began to materize or manifest circumstances beyond their control. At some point they would no longer be skeptical, just aftraid, VERY AFRAID!
primordial
Feb 13 2008, 02:42 AM
An unreliable tool for the discovery of truth of any kind
Shankpin
Feb 13 2008, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (cpjason @ Feb 12 2008, 07:10 PM)

I would really be interested to see if a Quija board skeptic would go out and buy a board, and try to bring demons or evil spirits into their home. If you really don't believe in Quija boards I challenge you.
So, you're a believer in the Ouija board.. and If you DO believe in the possible negative consequences it may cause on someone, why would you taunt someone into that chance... I'm just saying... If you believe in them, then you would also believe in the chance it could happen to that person you're taunting... isn't that messed up?
DEBUNKER
Feb 13 2008, 03:36 AM
QUOTE (cpjason @ Feb 13 2008, 02:10 AM)

I would really be interested to see if a Quija board skeptic would go out and buy a board, and try to bring demons or evil spirits into their home. If you really don't believe in Quija boards I challenge you.
Go out and buy one. Use the board often and alone, and try to contact demons and other evil spirits. When you get one, ask it to perform tricks for you to prove it is real. Ask it to appear in your room, ask it to take control of your body, ask it to scare your family. Keep talking to it over a long period of time and be sure to ask it to stay with you forever, even after you stop using the board. Ask it when you will die. Ask it about GOD. Ask it to bring other demons into your home because you like demons so much you want to have lots of them around. Ask it to grant you immortality. Ask it to make you wealthy.
You have to do this believing that you are talking with someone, and keep an open mind. You may not believe that the board will work, but at least have an open enough mind to talk to whatever happens to contact you in a serious way. I see people saying that the Ouija is nothing but a game, but those people saying it never say that they have ever used the board more than a few times, usually when they were little kids. It's easy to be a skeptic and not believe in something if you have never researched the subject yourself personally.
Put your money where your mouth is, and let me know your results, or are you afraid?
The movement of the planchette is not due to spirits but to unconscious movements by those controlling the pointer, the
ideomotor effect. The same kind of unconscious movement is at work in such things as dowsing and facilitated communication. Not to mention the people who moves the pointer on purpose.
Observing powerful messages and the powerful effect of messages on impressionable people can be impressive. American psychiatrist Dr. Carl Wickland claims that using the Ouija board "resulted in such wild insanity that commitment to asylums was necessitated." Is this what happens when amateurs try to dabble in the occult?
Maybe, if they are suggestible, not very skeptical, and a bit disturbed to begin with.
Left Field
Feb 13 2008, 03:37 AM
meh, I never understood ouija boards. They creeped me out a bit as a kid, but mainly becuase I went to Catholic school and they taught us ouija boards were evil - like the devil was gonna come and get yea.
I never really tried using one, maybe once or twice. These online ones seem a little ridiculous to me. But then again, I guess no more ridiculous then the real board "game" one.
I believe in spirits and stuff, just not the ouija board.
Belle.
Feb 13 2008, 03:43 AM
QUOTE (DEBUNKER @ Feb 13 2008, 04:36 AM)

Maybe, if they are suggestible, not very skeptical, and a bit disturbed to begin with

That's me then!
There is such a folklore and mythology about the evils of ouija but perhaps you are right and it's a case of a few unwell individuals that start all the horror stories.
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 03:45 AM
Been there done that with nothing to show for it. I used to fiddle with the Ouija Board all the time growing up and never believed in them, never had a reason to. A friend and I even used it with our girlfriends at his house (which was thought to be haunted) to freak them out which backfired and made my friend damn near piss his pants. However he wasn't freaked, just the board said something he didn't like about his gf, which was his gf's way of saying "sorry I found someone else and you aren't the one". With that he threw the board out in the middle of no where. Those rumors of it reappearing never happened.
Hell, I will even do the whole Ouija Experience, video tape it and use digital audio, and post it on my website for verification. Keep a daily journal of any "supernatural" activity and laugh about it later.
Is there any questions you would like me to ask, tricks to perform, dances to dance?
Shankpin
Feb 13 2008, 04:01 AM
QUOTE
Hell, I will even do the whole Ouija Experience, video tape it and use digital audio, and post it on my website for verification. Keep a daily journal of any \"supernatural\" activity and laugh about it later.
Is there any questions you would like me to ask, tricks to perform, dances to dance?
O, this will be interesting!
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:04 AM
Yeah, the trick is finding someone who will take it seriously enough to perform a session with. I discourage the use of it within my group and the girl im dating would crap herself 32 times within the first five minutes simply because she is terrorfied of ghosts and horror movies alone.
Anyone want a ticket to Ohio
RX-7
Feb 13 2008, 04:08 AM
Just say out aloud each night in your bedroom that you long to be in the company of evil spirits (i can even do it for you

), hell why not even try it at a cemetery and see if something follows you home. Why bother with these ouija boards
SS79
Feb 13 2008, 04:12 AM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Feb 13 2008, 04:04 AM)

Yeah, the trick is finding someone who will take it seriously enough to perform a session with. I discourage the use of it within my group and the girl im dating would crap herself 32 times within the first five minutes simply because she is terrorfied of ghosts and horror movies alone.
Anyone want a ticket to Ohio

I believe some people do them alone you could do live online session get everyone here to pm you a question and we will all sit here in safety of our homes while you tackle the demons LOL
great fun
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:17 AM
QUOTE (RX-7 @ Feb 12 2008, 11:08 PM)

Just say out aloud each night in your bedroom that you long to be in the company of evil spirits (i can even do it for you

), hell why not even try it at a cemetery and see if something follows you home. Why bother with these ouija boards

Done that too. What it does is puts thoughts into your head where anything heard or seen could be associated with that such presence. However it is just your mentality doing the exorcise. I normally wouldnt associate with an Ouija Board this day and age, however for the sake of the thread and many people all paranoid about the almighty Ouija Board I will.
Sporkling
Feb 13 2008, 04:18 AM
Well lets try another thing. Anyone tried whistling while walking through a graveyard?
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:20 AM
QUOTE (SS79 @ Feb 12 2008, 11:12 PM)

I believe some people do them alone you could do live online session get everyone here to pm you a question and we will all sit here in safety of our homes while you tackle the demons LOL
great fun

Hmm interesting. Like a live webcast. Could do that as well. I am like an Appliance center here with all my gadgets so I can pretty much muster up anything.
RX-7
Feb 13 2008, 04:23 AM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Feb 13 2008, 05:17 AM)

Done that too. What it does is puts thoughts into your head where anything heard or seen could be associated with that such presence. However it is just your mentality doing the exorcise. I normally wouldnt associate with an Ouija Board this day and age, however for the sake of the thread and many people all paranoid about the almighty Ouija Board I will.
Pm your address (just the street and suburb will do) and I'll see what I can do

I won't tell you when, but if something happens just let us know
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:24 AM
QUOTE (Electrokinesis is me @ Feb 12 2008, 11:18 PM)

Well lets try another thing. Anyone tried whistling while walking through a graveyard?
Well I normally wouldn't walk and whistle casually through a cemetary. Infact, I don't really like being in one unless I am paying respect to someone. I do investigate "Rumored Haunted" cemetaries, but it takes a lot to get me to investigate one. See no point in it.
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:25 AM
QUOTE (RX-7 @ Feb 12 2008, 11:23 PM)

Pm your address (just the street and suburb will do) and I'll see what I can do

I won't tell you when, but if something happens just let us know

Sent
Sporkling
Feb 13 2008, 04:26 AM
Yes i know cemetries are scary places. I don't like to go near one myself.
SS79
Feb 13 2008, 04:28 AM
QUOTE (Electrokinesis is me @ Feb 13 2008, 04:26 AM)

Yes i know cemetries are scary places. I don't like to go near one myself.
I actualy find them calming . but im wierd .
Out of interest what does whistling do . is it supposed to summon them or something ?
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:30 AM
Maybe in a pet cemetary
RX-7
Feb 13 2008, 04:30 AM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Feb 13 2008, 04:25 AM)

Sent

Cheers
I forgot to mention a pic, but I guess there's bound to be one with you on here of you somewhere
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 04:31 AM
Profile

Need me to fed ex a lock of my hair?
SS79
Feb 13 2008, 04:31 AM
Sporkling
Feb 13 2008, 04:31 AM
Its supposed to get them to follow you to your homes. A kind of summoning. I thought that since you were changelling the skeptics, I would put in my method too.
RX-7
Feb 13 2008, 05:34 AM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Feb 13 2008, 04:45 AM)

Been there done that with nothing to show for it. I used to fiddle with the Ouija Board all the time growing up and never believed in them, never had a reason to. A friend and I even used it with our girlfriends at his house (which was thought to be haunted) to freak them out which backfired and made my friend damn near piss his pants. However he wasn't freaked, just the board said something he didn't like about his gf, which was his gf's way of saying "sorry I found someone else and you aren't the one". With that he threw the board out in the middle of no where. Those rumors of it reappearing never happened.
Hell, I will even do the whole Ouija Experience, video tape it and use digital audio, and post it on my website for verification. Keep a daily journal of any "supernatural" activity and laugh about it later.
Is there any questions you would like me to ask, tricks to perform, dances to dance?
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...c=78917&hl=http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...c=77257&hl=http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...=112809&hl=http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...c=75136&hl=lol, just tell me if you have any second thoughts about this
NoahJaymes
Feb 13 2008, 05:47 AM
Nope, that was then, this is now

Thanks to these boards I am a pure skeptic...even going against my own experiences.
Odd Christian
Feb 13 2008, 09:01 AM
I am in ohio, but will not use one for reasons of my own. However, I think it is unsafe for anyone to invite nasties into their homes and lives, or into the lives of their family and friends. and since 419 has had experiances, he doesn't count as a sceptic.
So, any sceptics willing to take this challenge? I am sure that if anything nasty does happen, one of the investigators here would be happy to investigate it for you, and if needed point you to some one that can "fix" it.
SS79
Feb 13 2008, 02:14 PM
QUOTE (Odd Christian @ Feb 13 2008, 09:01 AM)

. and since 419 has had experiances, he doesn't count as a sceptic.
.
What if the eperiences he had, he once thought were paranormal, But now through research, reading and learning he has found other more natural explanations for them. does that mean he qualifies to take part ?
Seriously though . Enjay i know we joke around but I would still be careful . even though I dont see you as susceptible(sp) or suggestible. I still stand by my first post on this thread
SS
Neognosis
Feb 13 2008, 02:15 PM
QUOTE
So, any sceptics willing to take this challenge?
We used a ouija board a lot in college. Nothing bad happened.
If you send me a board, I'll take your "challenge." Or send me the cash for the board. I'm not going to spend money to indulge your silly fantasies. PM me for my adress and I'll tell you where to send the check or the board. I'll document everything.
AngelXVI
Feb 13 2008, 02:36 PM
My question would be... How many skeptics would use it in their own home with their partner and children living there, knowing there could be a 1% chance of attracting something negative?
1.618
Feb 13 2008, 02:41 PM
Even if the concious mind of a 'skeptic' firmly disbelieves in a ouija board working, it is quite possible for his/her subconcious to believe differently. There lies the danger.
Neognosis
Feb 13 2008, 02:42 PM
QUOTE
My question would be... How many skeptics would use it in their own home with their partner and children living there, knowing there could be a 1% chance of attracting something negative?
I WILL! Somebody send me a board or some money for one.
1.618
Feb 13 2008, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Feb 13 2008, 02:42 PM)

I WILL! Somebody send me a board or some money for one.
Just make one. You will have more time to consider what you are about to do as you are making it.
AngelXVI
Feb 13 2008, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Feb 13 2008, 09:42 AM)

I WILL! Somebody send me a board or some money for one.
Make one... its not the board itself its the intent of the user! I have heard of Scrabble letters being used
1.618
Feb 13 2008, 02:50 PM
Spooky.
Neognosis
Feb 13 2008, 02:54 PM
QUOTE
Just make one. You will have more time to consider what you are about to do as you are making it.
Yea, I'm shaking with fear...
You make one and send it to me.
Sporkling
Feb 13 2008, 03:27 PM
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Feb 13 2008, 10:42 PM)

I WILL! Somebody send me a board or some money for one.
There is totally no need. I will give you a changllenge. And that is to whistle while going past a cemetary. I don't believe you need money for that.
Neognosis
Feb 13 2008, 03:39 PM
QUOTE
There is totally no need. I will give you a changllenge. And that is to whistle while going past a cemetary. I don't believe you need money for that.
Ok. What song? Do I have to be on foot, or can I be driving by one?
Sporkling
Feb 13 2008, 03:46 PM
All righty you have to be on foot. And you have to really go into the cemetry. Twinkle twinkle little star in the highest pitch will do nicely.
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